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zig-zag man
08-10-2017, 06:15
Is $12.00 per day about the correct price point for trail food? Thanks in advance for your thoughts/comments.

OkeefenokeeJoe
08-10-2017, 06:34
At least $15 per day for me.

OkeefenokeeJoe

peakbagger
08-10-2017, 07:37
With or without town days averaged in?

BuckeyeBill
08-10-2017, 07:49
All depends on where you can shop. Some times the quicky mart that sells gas is the only place and you will pay a premium for food and the selection will be limited. A mom and pop grocery store will have a larger selection, but prices will be about the same as the quicky mart. They will have fresh fruits and veggies if that is your style. Major grocery stores will offer the largest selection and at the lowest prices. Pick store brands as much as possible and they are name brand just different labels. Some people prefer organic natural style foods. You can normally find these stores in the bigger cities, but be prepared to pay premium prices. Hope this helps you out. Also you can mix up your menus better at grocery stores and not have to eat the same thing every day. I get by pretty cheap with store brands, lots of pasta, bean and rice dishes, about $10 a day. Would be even cheaper if I didn't love trail mix so much. I even make my own.

zig-zag man
08-10-2017, 07:52
With or without town days averaged in?

Without town days

garlic08
08-10-2017, 08:21
For me, in 2008, my thru-hike averaged $7/day for trail rations, just under $8 for town food. I was somewhat frugal--no alcohol, vegetarian, buying bulk rather than packages. My hiking partner spent nearly twice that, and he doesn't drink either.

It may be notable that we averaged 20 miles per day, so total food cost for the trip was roughly $1500. I don't know if a slower or faster hike would have changed that significantly. i think I ate more per day than average, but I spent less time in towns and that can quickly get expensive.

garlic08
08-10-2017, 08:24
Without town days

I think $5 to $15 is a typical range. It all depends on how you shop and what you eat.

Mountain House meals and packaged bars can quickly get expensive. Bulk oats and nuts and instant potatoes are relatively cheap (but don't try to live only on that if you can afford it).

zig-zag man
08-10-2017, 08:37
It looks like my budget is going to be $4K-ish for the thru, so I won't have the luxury of late night town parties (not that there's anything wrong with that!) or too many drinks, but I'm sure I'll grab a salad, burger, and fries whenever I stop for resupply. Or a small pizza. But the point is, I won't have the bucks to splurge. $5 seems like the low side to me, but I could see $15 occasionally.

Just Bill
08-10-2017, 09:09
I got Wendy's the other day- Large spicy chicken sandwich meal and a double stack- $11.
Not a crazy hiker snack.

Burger, fries a pint (or two) and a tip is running $20 these days.

Only pointing that out as really it's town that kills the budget. Most folks can be decently frugal ON TRAIL.
But hitting town, grabbing a bit of fast food (eat before you shop or you'll buy the whole grocery store), then doing laundry, hostel, and grabbing dinner and a beer with a hiker before you go...

That's pretty typical. $35 easy just on food.

You can certainly hit the dollar general and shove food in your face on the front stoop- stuff your pack- and be in and out of town in a few hours fairly cheap.
None of the wal-martians will look twice if you go right to the deli and shove sandwiches in your face while you shop or consume a bag of doritos while you shop.

But if you can come up with the money part of the AT is that experience too.
You can trek for months in more wild places... but the blend of town, social, human, and woods... it's uniquely AT and part of the hike IMHO.

The other reality... will you skip those options when presented? Lots of folks say yes when budgeting, but no on trail.
So they blow the weeks budget on a night at the bar then you see them eating ramen and minute rice for breakfast lunch and dinner for the next week.
Eventually you see them drop- eating frugal is fine- eating food with zero nutritional value for weeks on end is a surefire way to end your hike early.

evyck da fleet
08-10-2017, 09:42
I found it hard to separate a food budget between town and trail. I found I was likely to spend more on town food if my last resupply was at a Dollar General rather than at a full grocery store. Plus its nice to treat yourself every once in a while.

Most hikers don't enjoy only eating trail food. Many leave the trail once the money runs out because they didn't budget enough. +1 to JBs comment on trail towns being part of the experience.

If if you can do it on 4K great but I'd focus on enjoying your hike and not worry about whether or not you hike the whole trail.

BuckeyeBill
08-10-2017, 09:54
Go into town, find a place to stay and or take a shower. Go eat town food, doesn't have to be extravagant. Then go get your resupply. Shopping for for food on an empty stomach will cause you to overbuy because everything looks good.

Heliotrope
08-10-2017, 12:34
On my section hikes I am spending about $30 per day. I eat a lot! If I had to resupply on trail that might come down. I like to eat healthy foods and often. Yikes!


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DownEaster
08-10-2017, 13:45
I think it's reasonable to spend $5 a day for food on the trail. I do a fair amount of real cooking, and basic ingredients mostly cost less than prepared foods. In town, though, it's very hard to spend under $15 a day. You can make your in-town budget more reasonable by grabbing a bag of fruit first thing. Oranges or plums will both satisfy a nutritional need that's not met while hiking and also fill you up for moderate cost. Then you can split a pizza with other hikers rather than getting an extra large just for yourself. And, as others have pointed out, your resupply shopping will be more reasonable if you're not hungry when you arrive at the store.

T-Rx
08-10-2017, 14:46
JB makes some great points about spending and the town experience being an important part of the hike(IMO). After a few weeks on the trail when the "hunger" sets in you will look forward to the town visits. They represent not only some creature comforts & resupply but also an opportunity to make up for calorie deficit and get some real food with more nutritional value. You will become an eating machine! So I think he is right in that it sounds easy to plan to not spend much but the temptation to do otherwise when the options are presented is very strong. Just my humble opinion.

Slo-go'en
08-10-2017, 17:29
So long as you can get to a Dollar General, chain grocery or Walmart, $5-6 a day is probably a good number.
Knorr side + tuna packet = $2.00
Glazed Honey Bun = $1.00
Assorted lunch stuff = $2.00

There are times you will pay significantly more for the convenience of not having to go far to get food. If you want to eat good food, you'll pay more too.

4K is a little skinny for a full thru hike, but with some self restraint you might get away with it. A lot of hikers blow much of their budget in the first couple 100 miles since towns/hostels come pretty frequently and it's hard to do big miles between stops due to the difficulty of the trail and weather early in the hike.

George
08-10-2017, 20:00
other than gear, not less than 20 a day for expendables - this would include food, beverage, fuel, water treatment chemicals, batteries, toilet paper, non- script meds, insect repellant, sun screen and shipping for mail drops

I mostly hike off season and will carry nice fresh meat, whole pies/ cheesecakes, vegetables etc out of town - not a big drinker, but if I do it is top shelf - and I share

IMO it is supposed to be vacation, not concentration camp rations

bigcranky
08-10-2017, 20:41
So long as you can get to a Dollar General, chain grocery or Walmart, $5-6 a day is probably a good number.
Knorr side + tuna packet = $2.00
Glazed Honey Bun = $1.00
Assorted lunch stuff = $2.00

That's my breakfast and maybe a morning snack right there.....

MuddyWaters
08-10-2017, 21:45
$12-18 is fair on trail depending what eat.

In town....i can spend $75 or more in 24 hrs on restaurant food. Hard to get good meal less than $25 with tip.

Slo-go'en
08-10-2017, 22:42
On my LASH last year from HF to Vermont ~700 miles total, I hit about the $2/mile figure. So, if I did about 15 miles a day, I spent $30 a day. Not too bad for that section of trail. I figure a full overnight town stop will run between $100 and $150.

George
08-11-2017, 09:46
Is $12.00 per day about the correct price point for trail food? Thanks in advance for your thoughts/comments.

IMO here is the real lurking 600 lb gorilla question:

is it worth running the risk of heart damage that you will live / die with ( when calorie deficit causes the body to consume muscle) to save a few bucks on food

better to do a shorter hike than a longer malnourished one

BuckeyeBill
08-11-2017, 16:47
I do love summer sausage and cheese on crackers for lunch. Now they have cheese with bacon crackers out.

DownEaster
08-11-2017, 20:39
is it worth running the risk of heart damage that you will live / die with ( when calorie deficit causes the body to consume muscle) to save a few bucks on food
Gee, I really don't think that's an issue on the AT for most people. (Some people like vegans with highly restrictive diets may have problems resupplying at gas station mini-marts; that's not really a money issue.) There are plenty of opportunities to get calories until you reach the northernmost 100 miles of the trail. Even at mini-mart prices most everybody can occasionally afford some mac & cheese, Ramen noodles, and a bag of Fritos. It's just that people with limited funds can't regularly go for the easiest (and most expensive) resupply, but will often have to walk a couple of extra miles to get to the local Walmart.

MuddyWaters
08-11-2017, 21:13
IMO here is the real lurking 600 lb gorilla question:

is it worth running the risk of heart damage that you will live / die with ( when calorie deficit causes the body to consume muscle) to save a few bucks on food

better to do a shorter hike than a longer malnourished one

How is it that distance runnners are emaciated, but dont have heart problems then?

Junk science and flawed logic, thats how.

capehiker
08-12-2017, 12:11
I planned for $20/day. This will cover the resupply days in town where you crush 8,000 calories in a sitting at a restaurant. People make it all the way on honey buns and ramen. Can't argue that. I preferred to take a more nutritional approach to calories and made a conscious effort to get as much fiber, vegetables, fruits, etc. I also added electrolytes into my drink mixes. It made a world of difference compared to my 2016 attempt.

George
08-12-2017, 16:26
How is it that distance runnners are emaciated, but dont have heart problems then?

Junk science and flawed logic, thats how.

it is a newly emerging diagnosis, and may end up inconclusive, but yes chronic over exercise and under nourishment are linked to heart stress/ disease - >2 % body fat that was once held up as a model of perfect health may not be

something to be said of the old adage: moderation in all things