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blw2
09-30-2017, 22:42
I've been planning on upgrading my tent for some time, likely to the duplex...just haven't landed on the color. Have discussed that here before.... Just didn't want camo for sure....
but
I have been thinking of this idea for a number of years now...and then watching a video on youtube by KennethKramm, he used a term that summed up my thoughts exactly
Leave no trace, BE no trace
now I have no leave no trace obsession...I actually think the term is over used and perhaps even misused very often...but I do believe in the general idea.
The Be No Trace component is the twist.
Kinda like most folks don't want their neighbor to paint his house neon purple, I think it makes sense to be considerate of others in the area while you are camping. Keep the loud noises down, loud music, or whatever taht may be disturbing to others...but also regarding teh visual landscape.
I figure if I enjoyed the natural view hiking in, others passing through while I'm there should be able to also enjoy it without too much distraction of my "stuff" strewn about....
so.....maybe a camo tent isn't such a bad idea...

Anyway, Just sharing a thought.....

Kaptain Kangaroo
10-01-2017, 02:06
I think the camo Duplex looks great ! .........and it is less intrusive.....


http://www.zpacks.com/images/shelter/duplex/ultralight-two-person-tent-duplex-camo_l.jpg

Maineiac64
10-01-2017, 06:08
I have the camo duplex more for the fabric but I like the color too. The Dali Lama preaches living to prevent confrontation which means awareness of others.

Tipi Walter
10-01-2017, 10:18
Heck I want to be seen, especially by hunters who won't shoot in my direction after they see my red tent. Plus, a red tent looks fantastic in white snow.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpacking2010/15-Days-with-a-Red-Hilleberg/i-vMtQ9Xc/0/a4b925ee/L/TRIP%20105%20102-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2016-Trips-171/17-Days-in-the-Snow/i-8kQBhKb/0/c3474a9e/XL/TRIP%20172%20054-XL.jpg

This pic was taken on the Brush Mt trail in Citico wilderness during a 17 day trip where I saw no one for the whole trip except for Patman who I invited to join me. So who was around to get offended???

Feral Bill
10-01-2017, 11:07
I sleep under a "coyote brown" tarp. Ir blends in very nicely. I have to be careful to not lose track of it when camped.

Bronk
10-01-2017, 11:18
I've always tried to get a tent that is a color that will blend with the landscape. Aside from not wanting it to be an eyesore, if it blends nobody knows you're there. If nobody knows you're there, they won't steal your stuff and they won't bother you in any other way.

Puddlefish
10-01-2017, 12:32
I bought bright neon gear when possible. Don't want to be shot by hunters. I'm also color blind, and need the bright visual clues to even find my campsite in the evening. I'm less likely to leave behind a bright yellow bandana or shirt that's drying on a branch. Don't want to trip over black guy lines in the dark, etc. My tent is a flat grey, but if it came in brighter colors I'd have gone for that choice. Camo gear for hiking just seems silly to me.

Tipi Walter
10-01-2017, 13:11
I bought bright neon gear when possible. Don't want to be shot by hunters. I'm also color blind, and need the bright visual clues to even find my campsite in the evening. I'm less likely to leave behind a bright yellow bandana or shirt that's drying on a branch. Don't want to trip over black guy lines in the dark, etc. My tent is a flat grey, but if it came in brighter colors I'd have gone for that choice. Camo gear for hiking just seems silly to me.

I agree. It's also weird that hunters wear full camo . . . . and then slap a bright orange vest over their chests. What's the point of the camo? Why not just wear blue jeans and a shirt?

MuddyWaters
10-01-2017, 13:36
I agree. It's also weird that hunters wear full camo . . . . and then slap a bright orange vest over their chests. What's the point of the camo? Why not just wear blue jeans and a shirt?
When i was a kid, thats what people did.

Offshore production of everything in china made all this unnecessary stuff affordable.

illabelle
10-01-2017, 13:49
If I were designing tents meant to blend in with the surroundings, I'd make them the gray color of a rock, with mosses and lichens on the edges. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a tent that wasn't a tent. Kinda like this "shelter" below that turned out to be nothing more than a rock.40460

Venchka
10-01-2017, 15:23
Full tent Stealth mode:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/31003583828661a26ac9a3135df55b3e.jpg
Don't step on me Ms. Moose mode:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/648d72878d29b60bb91a2cfd441677b2.jpg
She didn't step on me. It must work.
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DuneElliot
10-01-2017, 15:33
I avoided the blue Duplex partly for that reason...it was just too vivid. I think the spruce and olive colors are just fine for "Be No Trace". Sorry the picture isn't great. We also had the camo SoLong in the group but it wasn't up when I took this picture:

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A half-decent shot of all tents, spruce (left), olive (middle) and camo SoLong (right):

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4377/37438224225_ec06e9fc30_z.jpg

Tipi Walter
10-01-2017, 15:44
If I were designing tents meant to blend in with the surroundings, I'd make them the gray color of a rock, with mosses and lichens on the edges. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a tent that wasn't a tent. Kinda like this "shelter" below that turned out to be nothing more than a rock.

Your pic reminds me of a tipi I lived in on a ridge in the NC mountains---

https://photos.smugmug.com/BooneYears/Tipi-Life/i-K5GMNcQ/0/6a41b259/XL/85fU8kjywPYO8k19xMYGn22Vyy4PMn7_edjaTirZfHQ-XL.jpg

blw2
10-01-2017, 17:06
Yeah, I get the point about being seen by hunters....if you're hiking in the season when and where there are hunter likely to be....
and also bright colors for rescue scenarios too....
valid points for sure!
I can also imagine benefit for folks being able to see your campsite so that they can avoid and give wide berth....

But let me see if I can paint a better picture....
You're hiking on a trail late afternoon. You are out for the weekend to get away. Haven't seen another person except your hiking partner....maybe all day.
You come across the most beautiful lake you can imagine.... a beautiful image with mountains as a backdrop. You feel like you have the whole place to yourself.
A memory of a view you will cherish

Now you find a nice campsite over on the opposite shore.

Later...another hiker comes along that same trail....but his experience is far different. That surreal image is tainted by a littered campsite way over there on the opposite shore. That scene that you discovered isn't there for him. He was robbed of that same discovery you had earlier

I guess the way I'm looking at it, the bright colored tents and such rob others, in a way, from enjoying the place.....

Not to the same extreme, but not so unlike the time I took my family camping in a state park campground and the folks in the next site over had a bucket light hanging high in a tree with what had to be at least a 100 watt light bulb in it....maybe much more than that! Looked like a walmart parking lot. I think they had music blaring too....
Wasn't any sittin around a small fire enjoying the stars, quiet conversation, and nocturnal sounds that evening!

Anyway, just a different twist to the leave no trace philosophy.... and I think a good thing to consider
leave no trace for future visitors
and be no trace for current visitors.

blw2
10-01-2017, 17:14
I avoided the blue Duplex partly for that reason...it was just too vivid. I think the spruce and olive colors are just fine for "Be No Trace". Sorry the picture isn't great. We also had the camo SoLong in the group but it wasn't up when I took this picture:

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A half-decent shot of all tents, spruce (left), olive (middle) and camo SoLong (right):

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4377/37438224225_ec06e9fc30_z.jpg
Awesome... I have searched for a distance shot photo like that showing the different colors! That is hugely helpful!!!!
Are the spruce and olive tents zpacks cuben?
Do you know if the solong uses the same or similar fabric as the camo zpacks?

I don't know... I do wish they had a choice that was a bit more in the middle..... not quite as black as the camo, but not so white as the other choices. and yeah, bright blue, definitely not for me.....although I can understand why some folks would like it....

illabelle
10-01-2017, 17:14
Your pic reminds me of a tipi I lived in on a ridge in the NC mountains---

https://photos.smugmug.com/BooneYears/Tipi-Life/i-K5GMNcQ/0/6a41b259/XL/85fU8kjywPYO8k19xMYGn22Vyy4PMn7_edjaTirZfHQ-XL.jpg
Definitely blends in, and after a period of time, disintegrates, leaving little trace.
I think you were born in the wrong century. The wilderness that once was no longer is. Sadly.

Venchka
10-01-2017, 17:23
Judy has excellent photos of her tents online. The Camo Solong 6 is definitely camouflaged. It doesn't have any of the reflective trim that the other color scheme has.
Wayne


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Tipi Walter
10-01-2017, 17:42
Definitely blends in, and after a period of time, disintegrates, leaving little trace.
I think you were born in the wrong century. The wilderness that once was no longer is. Sadly.

You're right, my beloved North American continent and America the Beautiful has been obliterated by sprawl and development.

When I think of leave no trace, or using a bright tent in the woods, I ponder the near constant overhead jet traffic roaring across the skies in the Southeast where I backpack---and have to really wonder about Leaving No Trace. See vid if interested---

Camping under this air traffic is like sleeping under Interstate highways---bring earplugs, boys and girls. And in fact, THERE IS NO WILDERNESS in the Eastern United States.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9r3H4iHFZk

fastfoxengineering
10-01-2017, 18:20
I guess it depends on your style of hiking. I will be thruhiking with a camo tarp. But stealth camping is a priority of mine.

Hunting season here in New England. I carry my orange backpack and typically hang a blaze orange bandana on my camo shelter.

A blaze orange bandana, buff, or article of clothing is a good option to carry if you also want the ability of going stealthy.

I've never met anyone who was mad or had their experience ruined by being able to see a hi viz tent in the distance.

People who regularly camp illegally on the side of the trail aggravate me way more.

If that's your routine, you should probably get a camo tent.



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blw2
10-01-2017, 18:23
yes, that's right...by western standard for sure there isn't. This past summer we took an RV trip form FL to the Grand Canyon and back. I really enjoyed it out there in the desert, even more than I thought I would. I Have traveled a lot and have been in that area before, but this time I really go to spend time looking off at a distance through the windshield at all the places where I would love to hike to a drop my pack for a while. When we got back East, it struck me how much I missed resting my eyes off to infinity.... everything is blocked by trees

while it's true there is a ton over traffic overhead, much of that is very high overhead. As an aviation buff, I often turn my eyes skyward hoping to see aircraft, and there are plenty of CAVU (clear above visibility unlimited) days or nights.... you know those cloudless blue sky days..... when I look up and cannot spot even one aircraft in the sky horizon to horizon. Sometimes, when I can spot more than 5 at once if find it surprising. Also, there are still pretty vast areas of undeveloped land. I used to look down while flying quite often in the east and south east US, and wonder how it must have been 200 years ago or more.... Much true enough bisected by roads here and there, and farmland but there is still lots of undeveloped space. While I haven't flown in many years now, when I was an active private pilot and first started cross country flights, I was struck by how much rural land is chopped up with clearings, fields, and such....but even still how much large tracts of woodlands there still are. It's not like its building next to building from one city to the next.....like it sometimes seems to be when looking form a car window....

DuneElliot
10-01-2017, 18:38
Awesome... I have searched for a distance shot photo like that showing the different colors! That is hugely helpful!!!!
Are the spruce and olive tents zpacks cuben?
Do you know if the solong uses the same or similar fabric as the camo zpacks?

I don't know... I do wish they had a choice that was a bit more in the middle..... not quite as black as the camo, but not so white as the other choices. and yeah, bright blue, definitely not for me.....although I can understand why some folks would like it....
Yes, the spruce and olive are Duplex tents...spruce is 0.74 and olive is 0.52 weight CF.

LHG SoLong is silnylon so not Cuben Fiber. It was just a close comparison as it is often difficult to get a mixed photo of all colors. I think the SoLong is a darker camo than the ZPacks CF camo tent...at least looking at pictures and seeing it in person.

In the picture the camo SoLong is darker than it is in person...the others are darker.

DuneElliot
10-01-2017, 18:41
Awesome... I have searched for a distance shot photo like that showing the different colors! That is hugely helpful!!!!
Are the spruce and olive tents zpacks cuben?
Do you know if the solong uses the same or similar fabric as the camo zpacks?

I don't know... I do wish they had a choice that was a bit more in the middle..... not quite as black as the camo, but not so white as the other choices. and yeah, bright blue, definitely not for me.....although I can understand why some folks would like it....
The smaller, attached photo is a more accurate rendering of the actual Duplex colors. I think they fit in just fine with the surround...they are hard to see at a distance if you don't know what you are looking for. We could barely see any grey or green tents that were across the lake even though we knew they were there.

blw2
10-01-2017, 19:15
but I wonder if that would differ in an Eastern woodland setting

DuneElliot
10-01-2017, 19:31
Why would it differ? I don't think you are going to offend anyone with any green, brown or camo tent.

I appreciate that you are being considerate about other peoples' experiences but in reality get the tent you want and call it good...any of the above options are good and won't be offensive.

saltysack
10-01-2017, 19:46
What color was inch worms tent?


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Suzzz
10-01-2017, 19:58
I may not find a lot of fans here but I purposefully bought a bright red tent for the simple reason that I want to be seen. To me it's a safety issue. In the very unlikely event that I might get lost, I don't want search and rescue teams to walk a few feet away from me without seeing me or air teams to see nothing but greenery on the ground. It doesn't add any weight to my pack and I'll be glad to have it should I need it. I also see no reason for me to have a camo or discreet colored tent since I never set up in non-designated areas. I always sleep in close proximity to shelters because I'm not comfortable alone in the dark and feel better when there are others around.

Personally, I have never been bothered by tents in the landscape on any of the trails I've ever been on. Long distance hiking requires sleep every now and again so it seems logical to see tents along the way. I can see however how someone who likes stealth camping would want to blend in.

Suzzz
10-01-2017, 20:00
What color was inch worms tent?

My point exactly. It was after reading about her story that I decided to get a highly visible tent.

DuneElliot
10-01-2017, 20:05
I may not find a lot of fans here but I purposefully bought a bright red tent for the simple reason that I want to be seen. To me it's a safety issue. In the very unlikely event that I might get lost, I don't want search and rescue teams to walk a few feet away from me without seeing me or air teams to see nothing but greenery on the ground. It doesn't add any weight to my pack and I'll be glad to have it should I need it. I also see no reason for me to have a camo or discreet colored tent since I never set up in non-designated areas. I always sleep in close proximity to shelters because I'm not comfortable alone in the dark and feel better when there are others around.

Personally, I have never been bothered by tents in the landscape on any of the trails I've ever been on. Long distance hiking requires sleep every now and again so it seems logical to see tents along the way. I can see however how someone who likes stealth camping would want to blend in.

My tent blends as I hated the blue and liked the heavier fabric...however my clothes are bright and obnoxious for the same reason as you picked a red tent.

saltysack
10-01-2017, 20:24
My tent blends as I hated the blue and liked the heavier fabric...however my clothes are bright and obnoxious for the same reason as you picked a red tent.

Agree that zpacks blue cuben is hideous imo....with that said I got a green cuben duomid not white...


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Traffic Jam
10-01-2017, 20:46
My first tent was a Lightheart Duo with blaze orange awnings. Figured it would come in handy during hunting season. Except, I hated the brightness and being a focal point of attention, so Judy changed them to green. She's the best.

Although I prefer muted, earth-tone clothing, I have a bright red pack cover, wear an orange shirt during hunting season, and often carry a blinky bicycle light...as well as a vargo titanium whistle.

somers515
10-01-2017, 22:08
Interesting discussion, I especially like blw2's point.

I'll chime in and this is purely my personal opinion but I would find a camo tent more "jarring" then a plain olive-colored or brown/rock colored tent. Also I think I might assume the person in a camo tent is more likely to be a hunter then a hiker. Again just my 2 cents.

Venchka
10-01-2017, 22:26
If Henry offered colors I would have been all over something less boring.
I compensate with bright shirts, sleeping bag and pack.
I can only take so much boring stuff.
Wayne


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gpburdelljr
10-01-2017, 22:35
As an aviation buff, I often turn my eyes skyward hoping to see aircraft, and there are plenty of CAVU (clear above visibility unlimited) days or nights....
CAVU is short for "Ceiling And Visibility Unlimited".

i've never heard the issue of offensive tent colors come up until this thread, so my guess is that it is a non-issue to the majority of hikers.

saltysack
10-01-2017, 22:46
If Henry offered colors I would have been all over something less boring.
I compensate with bright shirts, sleeping bag and pack.
I can only take so much boring stuff.
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My latest pack color is “wasabi”...I’d say it’s a BRIGHT! I prefer brighter cloths and a neutral color shelter...


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saltysack
10-01-2017, 22:48
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DownEaster
10-01-2017, 23:50
I prefer earth colors, but I choose based on function and price first. Most tents don't give you options for colors, or rather tie the color to some different option. For example, if you want a Sierra Designs Flashlight 2 Tent, you get this:

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If instead you want a Sierra Designs Flashlight 2 FL Tent, you get this:

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You're not choosing yellow instead of green; you're choosing the lighter tent design and getting a different color as a side effect.

theinfamousj
10-02-2017, 02:44
Where I do most of my outdoors stuff, I want to be very noticed because that reduces my chances of being dead. Sure, hunting shouldn't be happening there, but the dead cannot complain about illegal hunting by starving folk who are choosing to break hunting laws so that they don't have to watch their kids starve to death... In America.

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jjozgrunt
10-02-2017, 05:32
Talk about a 1st world problem, colours of tents? Blend in or stand out it won't affect my enjoyment.

Tipi Walter
10-02-2017, 09:56
I was backpacking the Benton MacKaye trail a couple years ago and saw this sight and now wonder if the sheer brightness would offend some people??:-?

There was a whole field of such flowers, aghast.


https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpacking2010/16-Days-with-Wisenber-and/i-mx4CQCt/0/3b71f251/XL/TRIP%20112%20064-XL.jpg

JPritch
10-02-2017, 10:11
I have the spruce Duplex, but I was actually looking for the camo just couldn't find one. I think the camo looks great!

rocketsocks
10-02-2017, 10:38
Talk about a 1st world problem, colours of tents? Blend in or stand out it won't affect my enjoyment.
This^^^^^^^^^

Starchild
10-02-2017, 12:16
Another thing to be aware of is bright colors are sometimes hard to get to sleep in if the sun it up or other bright enough light source. I had a orange tent and found out the hard way, it went back.

cmoulder
10-02-2017, 17:59
Photo below is the camo LHG Solo, which I assume is the same material used for the others. I got it for those times I want to be stealthy. I used it once this summer just to see the effect and damn if it doesn't just disappear a few feet into the woods! Gonna take a Sharpie to the logo, however, and put some black guy lines on it. ;)

I have friends who use a camo Duplex and it is slighty lighter than LHG and, when it is new, pretty shiny, but that diminishes as the tent is used and gets crinkled up from use and packing.

LHG solo
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blw2
10-02-2017, 19:15
My point exactly. It was after reading about her story that I decided to get a highly visible tent.

OK, I'm lost..... don't know the story of inch worm..... can you fill me in?

blw2
10-02-2017, 19:18
Interesting discussion, I especially like blw2's point.

I'll chime in and this is purely my personal opinion but I would find a camo tent more "jarring" then a plain olive-colored or brown/rock colored tent. Also I think I might assume the person in a camo tent is more likely to be a hunter then a hiker. Again just my 2 cents.

Yeah, that's kindof why I have never really be 'into' the idea of camo. Although I haven't in many years I grew up hunting and am certainly not opposed to it in any way....camo is just not something I'd wear....so not a tent color I would naturally prefer. I'd rather have just a nice muted color..... but this idea of be no trace got me to thinking....

blw2
10-02-2017, 19:23
CAVU is short for "Ceiling And Visibility Unlimited".

i've never heard the issue of offensive tent colors come up until this thread, so my guess is that it is a non-issue to the majority of hikers.

i'll stand corrected. I think I've seen it both ways, and maybe even with one other twist. It was maybe 25 years ago that I got my instrument rating and many years since I have actively flown, so I'll admit to being fuzzy on the true book definition. Regardless, same idea....

And yes, I no doubt this isn't a big important issue..... but what is when being discussed around the campfire?

illabelle
10-02-2017, 19:26
OK, I'm lost..... don't know the story of inch worm..... can you fill me in?
In 2013 Geraldine Largay (trailname Inchworm) stepped off the trail in Maine to dig a cathole. Got confused about which way to go to return to the trail, wandered the wrong way, got seriously lost, set up camp, and waited to be found. Massive search operation was unsuccessful. Her remains were found by accident in 2015. With the tree canopy a bright tent might not have made a difference for her, but it might make a difference for someone else.

blw2
10-02-2017, 19:27
I was backpacking the Benton MacKaye trail a couple years ago and saw this sight and now wonder if the sheer brightness would offend some people??:-?

There was a whole field of such flowers, aghast.


https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpacking2010/16-Days-with-Wisenber-and/i-mx4CQCt/0/3b71f251/XL/TRIP%20112%20064-XL.jpg

ah, no...well that's kind of a different thing aint it, to what I was getting at? Kindof an apples to oranges comparison there....

blw2
10-02-2017, 19:30
Another thing to be aware of is bright colors are sometimes hard to get to sleep in if the sun it up or other bright enough light source. I had a orange tent and found out the hard way, it went back.

great point. That reminds me of my old Kelty tent. To downeaster's point, it was a bright blue nylon... I got what I got with the color based on the model.... I remember that being hard on the eyes when in it during daylight.
Similarly, I can't stand being under one of those cheap blue tarps in the bright sun..... very upsetting to the soul for some reason....

blw2
10-02-2017, 19:34
Photo below is the camo LHG Solo, which I assume is the same material used for the others. I got it for those times I want to be stealthy. I used it once this summer just to see the effect and damn if it doesn't just disappear a few feet into the woods! Gonna take a Sharpie to the logo, however, and put some black guy lines on it. ;)
I have friends who use a camo Duplex and it is slighty lighter than LHG and, when it is new, pretty shiny, but that diminishes as the tent is used and gets crinkled up from use and packing.

LHG solo
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ha ha, doesn't blend into that snow though, eh?
One counter thought I have been having is regarding heat. Down here in the south it might prove to be rather hot during the summer. Only a minor concern though since I don't tent camp during the summer, and have no pressing plans to do much in the future. I would be in the mountains for any summer tent camping, where the nights are cooler....

Another Kevin
10-03-2017, 17:25
Minimizing visual impact is certainly a polite thing to do if you're out in exposed country and people are going to see your site a long way off.

What I do in practice:

At my usual sort of campsite, I wouldn't be seen from the trail even if everything were blaze orange. This is a typical setup at an established site:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3763/14278773134_b910043572_z_d.jpg

and a stealth site might be more like this. (Yes, it rained the night before, and the silnylon stretched like nobody's business.)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7443/10282256764_4c6e4266e0_z_d.jpg

So, I have a tent that's a neutral color to blend in, but don't much care most of the time because there's nobody around to see it. Similarly, my pack, jacket and pants are dull green, again pretty neutral - add an orange vest and pack cover in hunting season. (The blue pack in the picture is mostly retired now.) In hunting season, I usually hang the orange stuff over the poles, so that in case there's a hunter around before I'm awake, I'll maybe be a little more visible.

I generally make sure I have at least one piece of gear with me that's brightly colored so that I can be visible when I need to. That might be just an orange T-shirt in warm weather.

But this is getting into 'advanced' LNT - I think that "wear neutral colors so you won't spoil the view" is a bit over the top to present to newbies.

(And don't get me started about rubber tips on trekking poles. Whoever came up with the idea that all those scratches in the rock were left by poles hasn't hiked in the winter very much. I'd change the 'use rubber tips on your poles' to 'don't dry-tool unnecessarily' and 'don't drive snowmobiles on foot-only paths.')

TTT
10-03-2017, 18:43
Buying camouflage items and bright orange items is a bit of an oxymoron. Sorta like trying to be inconspicuous and conspicuous at the same time.

rocketsocks
10-03-2017, 18:46
Deer don't see the color orange...hence.

rocketsocks
10-03-2017, 18:47
Now go duck hunting with orange on, you better stop by the super market on the way home.

TTT
10-03-2017, 18:55
Hence... deer hunters should wear bright orange camouflage to complete the irony

jjozgrunt
10-03-2017, 19:01
My gear is usually based on what was on special at the time in my size. Hence orange and red t-shirts, bacon gaiters, green pants, light blue jumper, yellow/pink/purple/red buff, shoes with fluro yellow highlights. I should get a odd coloured hat and change my name to Color Palate or something similar.

AlamoHiker
10-03-2017, 19:25
A man has no campsite.

perdidochas
10-04-2017, 13:00
Hence... deer hunters should wear bright orange camouflage to complete the irony

They make bright orange camouflage, and deer hunters often use it. It helps to conceal them from deer (the dark parts of the orange camo break up their outline), but can be easily seen by other hunters.

Another Kevin
10-04-2017, 13:24
Buying camouflage items and bright orange items is a bit of an oxymoron. Sorta like trying to be inconspicuous and conspicuous at the same time.

When I want to be seen, I want to be seen.
When I want to blend in the landscape, I want to blend in the landscape.
So I have a dull green pack and a blaze orange pack cover, a dull grey fleece and a blaze orange vest. I get to pick and choose.
Sometimes I'm wearing the fleece and vest at the same time, because I want to be seen on a chilly day.
Where's the irony?

TTT
10-04-2017, 15:59
If the definition is unfamiliar, irony implies a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result. i.e, wearing camouflage to blend in, and at the same time wearing bright orange to stand out.

cmoulder
10-04-2017, 18:05
wearing camouflage to blend in, and at the same time wearing bright orange to stand out.

See photo.

Camo for deer hunting... 'cause they're colorblind, or so I've heard. Makes perfect sense. People can see ya, deer can't.

40487

TTT
10-04-2017, 19:23
Question: How Many People are Killed or Injured in Hunting Accidents?
Answer:
According to the International Hunter Education Association (http://www.ihea.com/_assets/documents/ihea1994.pdf), approximately 1,000 people in the US and Canada are accidentally shot by hunters every year, and just under a hundred of those accidents are fatalities. Most victims are hunters, but non-hunters are also sometimes killed or injured. Although some other forms of recreation cause more fatalities, hunting is one of the few activities that endangers the entire community, and not just the willing participants.