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blw2
02-22-2018, 16:23
I was just perusing the ONF web site looking for info on dispersed camping. Toying with doing an overnight over the weekend someplace....

Found this poorly written notice. It's old, and technically expired, but still....I found it interesting.
Seems to say that food must be stored IN a resistant container AND suspended







ORDER NO. 2009-01
FOOD STORAGE RESTRICTION

Pursuant to the provsions of 16 U.S.C. Section 551 and Title 36 C.F.R. Sections 261.50 (a) and (b), the following acts are prohibited within the National Forests in Florida. This closure order is effective from June 30, 2009 through June 30, 2014:

Possessing, storing, or leaving any food, refuse, or bear attractant unless it is: properly stored in a bear-resistant container;

suspended at least ten feet clear of the ground at all points, suspended at least four feet from the supporting tree or pole, and suspended at least four feet from any other tree or pole adjacent to the supporting tree or pole;

stored in a closed, motor vehicle without a soft, convertible top; or

being eaten, being prepared for eating, or being transported.

Discarding or abandoning any food, refuse, or bear attractant unless it is:

disposed of in a bear-resistant trash receptacle with has been provided by the Forest Service for that purpose.

Burning or burying any food, refuse, or bear attractant.
36 C.F.R. Section 261.58 (cc).

The following definitions shall apply to this Closure Order:

Bear attractant: means any substance having an odor that may attract bears, such as food, cooking grease, toothpaste, soap, and garbage.

Bear-resistant container: means a securable container constructed of solid non-pliable material capable of withstanding 200 foot-pounds of energy. When secured and under stress, the container will not have any cracks, openings, or hinges that would allow a bear to gain entry by biting or pulling with its claws. Wood containers are not considered bear-resistant unless they are reinforced with metal.

Food: means any nourishing substance, solid or liquid, which is not native to the immediate area, including nourishing substances for humans, pets, and livestock. Food does not mean water and baled hay. Refuse: means any discarded material or solid waste.

Pursuant to 36 C.F.R. 261.50(e), the following persons are exempt from the above prohibitions:

(a) Persons with a special use permit specifically authorizing the otherwise prohibited act or omission, issued by the Distrct Ranger.

(b) Any Federal, State, or Local Officer, or a member of an organized rescue or firefighting force in the performance of an official duty

These prohibitions are in addition to the general prohibitions in 36 C.F.R. Part 261, subpart A.
Executed in Tallahassee, Florida, this 30th day of June 2009

Susan Jeber Matthews
Forest Supervisor
National Forests in Florida

Violations of the above prohibition set forth are punishable by fine of no more than $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, or both. See 16 U.S.C. 551, 18 U.S.C. 3559 and 3571. A physical copy of any original signed Supervisor's Order can be obtained from the National Forests in Florida Supervisor's Office. Please contact us at (850) 523-8500 to request a copy.

Slosteppin
02-22-2018, 19:58
I read that as OR suspended Or in a vehicle. Read that way it all sounds reasonable and reasonable.

TimOnWhiteBlaze
02-22-2018, 21:32
I read that as OR suspended Or in a vehicle. Read that way it all sounds reasonable and reasonable.

closure order1 an order which may be made by a Senior Police Officer closing licensed premises.The order must specify the premises to be closed, the period of closure up to 24 hoursand the grounds on which the order is being made, for example, disorder or excessivenoise.

So, 2014 -- the order is over, right?

manzana
02-23-2018, 06:55
Whether or not it is a requirement, I think it is wise. I have seen enough bear activity and bears themselves in ONF that I wouldn't feel cozy without hanging my food. BTW, I wonder if the Rainbows knew they had to hang their food? :)

blw2
02-23-2018, 12:31
rainbows????

Sarcasm the elf
02-23-2018, 12:34
rainbows????

I assume it's a reference to the Rainbow Gathering. According to google they just had an event in Ocala.

blw2
02-23-2018, 12:37
ahhh....
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martinb
02-23-2018, 13:05
That's an "or" distinction. Unfortunately, too many people are sleeping with food, especially at Hidden Pond. I've been out there with 30+ people camped, only a half-dozen hangs. In a hunt-free area like Juniper, that's just asking for trouble.

MtDoraDave
02-24-2018, 23:27
I'm camping at Buck Lake this weekend, and two pairs of hikers cut through... Are any of you in this thread one of the 4?
I didn't think to ask when I saw them.

blw2
02-25-2018, 09:30
not me.... i ended up not being able to come out. I wasn't thinking about going quite that far south anyway....
makes me sick too, despite being almost too hot in the afternoon for my liking the weather is otherwise perfect!!!
is it getting buggy yet? I think I'll make it happen in a couple weeks....

MtDoraDave
02-25-2018, 15:21
The ticks are out.
Other bugs weren't bad.
Within 10 minutes of arrival, I had one crawling up my leg.