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PatmanTN
09-11-2018, 20:44
Hi all,
For an overview of what this route is about see Andrew Skurka’s website:
https://andrewskurka.com/adventures/wind-river-high-route/


I bought his guide and studied it religiously for several months in preparation for this trip.


In brief, the WRHR is listed as 97 miles with 65 miles off-trail and over 30,000 feet of vertical climbing. (the general idea of a High Route is to keep the highest line of travel through a given range without requiring technical climbing)


If you know me skip this next part, but I want to give some background for those that might use this report for planning purposes as I used others reports.


My background/ trekking resume:
I’m 46 years old, and an avid backpacker; I’ve done over 8000 miles of backpacking in the last decade. I work full time but go out almost every weekend (44 trips last year out of 52 weeks). For the last 6 years, I’ve averaged about 1000 miles of backpacking per year. The majority of my experience is on-trail but over the last few years I’ve been doing solo off-trail trips in the Southern Appalachians. These types of trips often involve following old, overgrown, and faded routes (known as “manways” locally) or using creeks as hand rails and hiking in the creek while climbing falls and cascades, or bush-whacking through heinous rhododendron (my least favorite).

I live in East Tennessee and so the southern apps are my goto, but I usually go out to the western US about once a year to backpack in some new area or mountain range. Here are some of the places I’ve trekked: Sierra out of Mineral King (https://www.trailspace.com/forums/trip-reports/topics/148286.html), Grand Canyon (Rim to Rim to Rim (https://www.trailspace.com/forums/trip-reports/topics/99672.html)), Grand Teton National Park (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTLrkzlbcN8) , Four Passes Loop (https://www.trailspace.com/forums/trip-reports/topics/171863.html) in the Elk Mountains of Colorado (Maroon Bells), Glacier National Park Montana (https://www.trailspace.com/forums/trip-reports/topics/180631.html), Weminiche Wilderness , CO (https://www.trailspace.com/forums/trip-reports/topics/186494.html) .

If you want to peruse for more here are about 100 trip reports (https://www.trailspace.com/people/patman/?content=trip-reports) on Trailspace.com (the older ones have broken picture links). I bagged my first western peak about 6 years ago in the Sierra (Sawtooth Peak 12,343) and have since done five fourteeners in CO: Snowmass, Sunlight, Windom, Eolus, North Eolus. I’ve done occasional class 4 moves but never with a full pack. I’m not a rock climber or mountaineer.

As far as navigational skills, I’ve done years of terrain association with topo maps, I’m proficient with dead reckoning (determining distance based on rate and speed), and I’ve done quite a bit of route-finding in my home terrain. I know compass basics as far as transferring bearings from the map to the field and vice versa as well as how to triangulate but have not used these skills extensively. I did quite a bit of practicing for this trip though.


Prologue:
I partnered with an experienced backpacker that I had never met: trail name Notbad (Jerry). He had a pulled a 70 mile loop in the Winds with another group led by hiker Dune Elliott, took one day off, then met me in Lander for our High Route; super tough guy! Many thanks to Dune for providing a shuttle for us between trailheads.
At the last minute a cold front blew in from Canada and the local towns were abuzz with news that we could be hit with 4-8 inches of snow above 9000 feet (99% of our route was above that). This forecast caused us to load up with extra insulation that we had not originally planned to carry. Oh well, better to be prepared. Spoiler: the weather was perfect, never even got below freezing, I did not use my extra base layers and only even put on my puffy a few times.


Data notes:
I tracked this trip with a Suunto Ambit Peak 3 GPS watch and came up with some variance from Skurka’s data. I can only account for some of the variance through two alternate sections but I’ll just list what I have while knowing it may not be 100% accurate. I show we finished with 115.28 miles, 33817 feet of ascension and 32008 feet of descent.


Day 1 August 28th
Middle Fork Trailhead at Bruce Bridge in Sinks Canyon Wyoming to Deep Creek lakes / Iceberg Trail junction.
15.42 miles
Ascent: 4032 feet
Descent: 627 feet

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That’s me on the left. Yeah, Notbad (Jerry) is 6’4 and I’m 5’7. Mutt and Jeff with backpacks.:)

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We found the nice protected camps in the Krumholtz about over 10,000 feet in elevation per our guide. Jerry has the Duplex and I’m using a Tarptent Stratospire.

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Sunset over Deep Creek lake and the cirque silhouette.



Day 2 August 29th
Deep Creek camp to Tayo lake near the Coon Lake junction after summit, West Gulley descent, summit again, and then dscent off the south side of Wind River Peak.
6.71 miles
Ascent: 4787
Descent: 4245

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Here, we’re starting up the east side of Chimney Rock after leaving the trail behind for the first time. I took great joy in shooting our first compass bearing to follow as we ambled up the broad mountain slope.


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This is me on the summit of Wind River Peak at over 13,000 feet! What an incredible view and feeling to hit the first one!

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This is where things turned a bit in our execution. I only made a couple of navigation errors but this was a good one. In my rush of adrenaline I had trouble associating the terrain properly and led us down the West Gully too low too soon and right to this icy cliff with ball bearing rocks underneath. It was a scary moment and a total spazz out on my part. (the guide even lists that you won’t miss this traverse because cliffs will force you over, but, um, I did). Knowing this was one of the routes hardest features we decided that maybe we should use the Coon Lake alternate instead. I did stop to map check and realized that we should have traversed to the west more before heading down but didn’t realize how far down we had dropped (maybe 1500 feet) . It was exhausting to climb all the way back up to the summit then tackle the impossibly long traverse down the south side of Wind River Peak. By the time we got near the junction of Tayo Lake and Coon Lake trails we were whipped and found an off-trail camp on a little knoll near a waterfall.



Day 3 August 30th
Tayo/Coon junction to Cirque of the Towers via Temple Pass
14.68 miles
Ascent: 4350
Descent: 4495
The route finding from Coon lake down to Little Sandy creek was a blast and we had a good time figuring it out. My second last real navigational error was here also: I could not find the trail up to Temple Pass. I saw some natural ramps on the right and even said out loud “if I were a trail I would go up that way” but didn’t trust my gut enough to investigate closely. Instead, we wound up shooting straight up the mountain on unstable talus, but luckily stepped right on the trail near the top. We could see the trail from up there and my gut was right. Live and learn.

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This is me mugging on Temple Pass (which was awesome!).

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Jackass Pass above the Cirque of the Towers
We had a nice night camped below Lonesome Lake (legally more than .25 miles away).



Day 4 August 31st
Cirque of the Towers to near Raid Peak Pass
12.26 miles
Ascent: 2936
Descent: 2448
We had decided to go over Texas Pass instead of the primary routes New York pass, not to avoid the feature but because Texas Pass had sentimental value to Jerry. A friend of his had camped at Texas Pass and shown him the photo some years before and that’s what had captured his imagination and drew his attention to the Wind Rivers in the first place.

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Pingora Peak as seen from the grassy area just below Texas Pass

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Dudes mugging at the actual pass.

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One of my favorite sections was the off-trail traverse of the East Fork river up towards Mount Bonneville and Raid Peak. It has such a great vibe to it. This picture is looking downstream towards the back of the cirque. Fantastic!

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Good tent spots were at a premium up there (see them in the lower left?); we found this cool sandy pit about a mile or so below Raid Peak Pass. Yeah, rain would have puddled us but we thought it worth the risk.



Day 5 September 1st (though really, every day was “labor day” on this trip)
Below Raid Peak to South Fork Bull Lake Creek on the Res
I had issues with hitting the pause button on my watch this day so the data is skewed a bit. I only tracked 6 miles but I’m sure it was closer to 11. I also sure there was more elevation gain than what is listed.
**11 miles
Ascent: 1916
Descent: 2028

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This pic of Jerry may be my favorite from the trip. By the way, he did this 10 day trip with a 38 liter pack!??

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Sentry Peak pass: I really liked the quick hitting combo of Raid Peak Pass, Bonneville Pass and Sentry Peak pass; super cool!

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We chose to spike-up and walk the snow field down from Sentry Peak.

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Here is Jerry getting his form just right for the descent. J

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And me with our route behind me as seen from Photo Pass.

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And finally, our camp on the Res (by permit) which was thick with elk and trout. We heard the elk bugling and one almost walked right into camp but I accidently scared it away while returning from the creek. The trout were so thick in one part of the creek you could have scooped them up with a net. I was too exhausted to fish sadly.

DuneElliot
09-11-2018, 20:54
Awesome report Pat. And you're totally welcome about the shuttling. We were just discussing in another thread how notbad aka Jerry managed to fit all his gear and extra stuff for 10 days into the Burn...that is almost as extraordinary as the WRHR!!!

And love the pictures...I only saw a phone since Jerry's phone died and then couldn't find the camera.

DuneElliot
09-11-2018, 20:55
*Only saw a few, not phone...

Dogwood
09-11-2018, 23:04
Great trip report with the pics Patman. Just like the Citico Crk Wilderness, hey? :D

Dogwood
09-11-2018, 23:04
Ohh that nut buster trail.

PatmanTN
09-12-2018, 10:02
Part 2 Added to this post

Day 6 September 2nd.
South Fork Bull Lake Creek to Golden Lakes

11.2 miles
Ascent: 3323 feet
Descent: 3422 feet

This day was something.

One of the harder navigational exercises was finding a tarn through a dense forest; I relied on the GPS app more than I wanted, but hey I did bring it. Then we got climb Europe Peak which was really neat.
https://photos.smugmug.com/2018/August-28-Sept-6-Wind-River-High-Route/i-3BmhhqD/0/cffed482/L/DSCN4847-L.jpg
Here is Jerry about to scramble over the knife edge to Europe Peak, our mid-route summit.
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A dual summit pose for posterity.
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I love this pic of Jerry but his wife may not.:0
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Approaching Golden lakes from the Divide.
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My camp at Golden Lakes. I cast my line four or fives times here but was just too whipped to fish still. This route was brutal.


Day 7 September 3rd
Golden Lakes to North Fork Camps
10.08 miles
Descent: 3963
Ascent: 3287

This was a big brutal day. Alpine Lakes was tough and beautiful.
https://photos.smugmug.com/2018/August-28-Sept-6-Wind-River-High-Route/i-zKcvzvx/0/dd4e4bee/L/DSCN4878-L.jpg
Douglas Peak Pass looks undoable (our route is the shadowed wall on the right) but it’s actually a really great route; the distance throws you off. It was a simple walk-up. The other side was much more crappacious though.
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Me, posing at the top of Douglas Peak pass.
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Look at the thickness of that ice…wild!
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Infinity pool!
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At the top of Alpine Lakes pass we met the only other Skurka Route Guy on the whole trip. I did not get his name, sorry man!


Day 8 September 4th
North Fork camps to Gannett Creek
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The next morning I waited for the sun to hit my tent. What a spot!
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An early view of our next pass: Blaurock! The monster. (the dip on the right)
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Just wow
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And wow some more.
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Groups of big horn sheep kept us well entertained on the long grind up Blaurock Pass. It helped a lot.
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Here I’m posing at Blaurock with Gannett Peaks broad snowy top visible over my shoulder.
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Here is Jerry on the Gannett Glacier after our exhausting ascent of West Sentinel.
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Check out our desperation camp at Gannet Creek. It was lower than a spot annotated on our map but worked fine.


Day 9 September 5th
Gannett Creek to Downs Mountain northern base
9.39 miles
Ascent: 3684
Descent: 2533
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Getting close to the Grasshopper Glacier
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Mmmm, glacial melt water!
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Infinity and beyond!
https://photos.smugmug.com/2018/August-28-Sept-6-Wind-River-High-Route/i-W2wsTq6/0/20397d28/L/DSCN4966-L.jpg
Or just beyond…..
https://photos.smugmug.com/2018/August-28-Sept-6-Wind-River-High-Route/i-MrMBCSc/0/e93f8945/L/DSCN4968-L.jpg
Happy me!
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We kept joking about the Alan Dixon route and how he seems to be reclining in many of his photos. This was Jerry’s Alan Dixon impersonation.
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Our final Summit Pose: Downs Mountain!
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View from Downs


Day 10 September 6th
Dows Base to Glacier Trailhead, done!
13.88 Miles
Ascent: 646
Descent: 5203
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The long walk out across Goat Flats, looking back from whence we came.
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And finally we hit more mellow tundra as we rejoined a trail for the first time in many miles.
If you read all this, God Bless You!
And good luck with your planning. O:

Like others have written, you just cannot overstate the difficulty of this route. Words fall short of the beauty, the remoteness, and also the pure, total, exhaustion. I’ve done a lot of backpacking in a lot of places in my lifetime but this was the hardest and the most incredible route I’ve ever done.

I feel like thanks are in order, lol:

Thanks to Andrew Skurka for publishing this route and guide

Thanks to my tough-as-they come partner Jerry for suffering it with me!
And thanks to my wife for holding down the home-front while I disappeared for two weeks!
Happy Trails!


Full raw pics here: https://patricktn.smugmug.com/2018/August-28-Sept-6-Wind-River-High-Route/i-QzSMrCQ (https://patricktn.smugmug.com/2018/August-28-Sept-6-Wind-River-High-Route/i-QzSMrCQ)

JPritch
09-17-2018, 10:49
Incredible report, thanks for sharing!

JPritch
09-18-2018, 10:01
I take it you didn't have any wildlife encounters? I really want to do WRHR one day, but the whole grizzy thing, I've spent just as much time researching grizzly defense as I have doing initial planning for the hike itself.

PatmanTN
09-18-2018, 10:33
We saw Elk, Marmot, Pika, a bird of prey get fish twice from a lake, but no bears and no bear sign. we never camped below 10,500 feet

DuneElliot
09-18-2018, 12:19
I take it you didn't have any wildlife encounters? I really want to do WRHR one day, but the whole grizzy thing, I've spent just as much time researching grizzly defense as I have doing initial planning for the hike itself.

We had no bear encounters in the Winds the two times we went (this year and last year). Notbad was on both trips.

I don't hike alone in griz country which is why the two Winds trips were group trips...although I did end up hiking half a day alone, but it was the busiest route into the wilderness...Elk Hart Park to Titcomb Basin.

While the Winds do have some grizzlies they are only just starting to move into the area and mostly boars right now. It is highly unlikely you will see one...black bears are much more common and we encountered a group of six who did see a momma and cub BB.

Venchka
09-18-2018, 12:39
I was along on the first trip Dune Elliott mentioned.
I didn’t see any bears.
What I did see, and the closest I’ve ever come to serious bodily harm in the woods, at 3:27 am was a galloping adult moose cow about 5 feet from my sleeping bag. I don’t know why, but thankfully put my sleeping bag next to a row of mature pine trees.
Watch out for moose.
Wayne

DuneElliot
09-18-2018, 13:35
I was along on the first trip Dune Elliott mentioned.
I didn’t see any bears.
What I did see, and the closest I’ve ever come to serious bodily harm in the woods, at 3:27 am was a galloping adult moose cow about 5 feet from my sleeping bag. I don’t know why, but thankfully put my sleeping bag next to a row of mature pine trees.
Watch out for moose.
Wayne

I'd rather face a black bear on the trail than a moose

Venchka
09-18-2018, 13:52
My point exactly.
700-800-900 pounds. As fast, or faster, than a horse.
A few years ago I read that moose kill more people in Alaska than bears.
Don’t mess with the moose!
Wayne

Hosh
09-18-2018, 20:42
Fantastic, great write up and phenomenal pictures. Talk about “nut buster” trails, how bout “nut buster” days/weeks.

Hosh
09-18-2018, 20:44
My point exactly.
700-800-900 (tel:700-800-900) pounds. As fast, or faster, than a horse.
A few years ago I read that moose kill more people in Alaska than bears.
Don’t mess with the moose!
Wayne
True, true on moose, no fear at all of humans. While fly fishing upper Colorado stumbled on a set of twins hidden behind a willow. All hell broke loose

notbad
09-18-2018, 22:10
Nut buster it was Hosh! Loved almost every minute! I was lucky enough to have spent 17 days out in the winds over two trips... The pics are great! Not only is Pat a master navigator but he did a real nice job of recording the trip too!

notbad
09-18-2018, 22:16
JPritch....Excellent place! You should go! I’d be more worried about hitting the stairclimber than learning to fight bears before you go!

Hosh
09-19-2018, 09:38
Impressive amount of residual snow, hiking on sloped snow fields adds a different dimension. Looks like youse had good eyewear and skin protection. Folks not familiar with high altitudes can get severely sunburned in a short time

tiptoe
09-19-2018, 10:01
Beyond gorgeous. Congrats on completing this route.

Tipi Walter
09-19-2018, 10:27
Epic trip, Patman!! What pack did you use this time?

How did the TarpTent work out?

Obviously you guys didn't have to carry bear canisters??? Could you have gotten by without the microspikes?? (The slopes never look as steep in pics as they really are!)

PatmanTN
09-19-2018, 11:36
Thanks all,

Tipi,

I used the Gossamer Gear Mariposa (60L), and Jerry used a MLD Burn (38L)!! Weight was a big issue with all that climbing so we cut as close as we could.

TarpTent was fine but never tested. We camped in some really exposed places but just got really lucky with the weather. The peaks and passes were windy but most nights were strangely calm.

The regulations required either hanging food or using canisters. I had cordage for hanging.

The spikes helped immensely, we found using the ice and snowfields was much easier than stepping on loose rock; it was a lot easier on the feet. Even so,we hit the Gannett Glacier late in the day and the sun had softened it to the point that spikes were less effective. I slid about 30 feet down a slope unintentionally once but that was about it, no harm done. Was better to hit that stuff when it was still crusty if we could.

Time Zone
09-19-2018, 14:02
Let me get this straight ... he's 6 foot 4, went on a 10 day trip with no resupply, and carried just a 38L pack? That's a gear list I'd like to see. Not bad, indeed.

notbad
09-19-2018, 14:26
Let me get this straight ... he's 6 foot 4, went on a 10 day trip with no resupply, and carried just a 38L pack? That's a gear list I'd like to see. Not bad, indeed.
Hahahaha!....secret is big pockets!

Time Zone
09-19-2018, 14:34
Hahahaha!....secret is big pockets!

You know what they say about big hands ... big pockets!

So the real question is, did you have more or less than 22L of gear stuffed in those big pockets or strapped to the outside of your 38L pack? :D

Seriously, though, kudos to both of you.

notbad
09-19-2018, 14:41
Shout out to Mountain Laurel Designs and their collaboration with Mary Poppins on the design of the burn! I was able to hang my jacket on my stand from home outside my tent every night! It’s those small touches that keep morale optimal!

Hosh
09-19-2018, 14:48
The fascinating thing about these kind of trips is the level of commitment to your gear and your time table. Most “backpacking” trips if you need to bail, the road or a well traveled trail is not far away. Even in Colorado’s larger wilderness areas if you follow a drainage long enough, you’ll hit a road. Not so in the wild, Wild West. Better have your sheet together on gear, pack weight, daily mileage and conditioning. Especially at elevations above 10K.

Patman, glad you were able to arrest your slide on the snow field. We have morons every year that get busted up or worse slide over a cliff while glissading down a slope.

notbad
09-19-2018, 14:55
You can see the pack in one of the trip report pics... I didn’t have an unusual amount of stuff strapped to the outside. Microspikes. Platypus 2 l only used at night.. marmot skull! .. sometimes the jacket. I did a 7 day food carry the week before no problem. Ten days food carry was pushing it a little. Plus I added quite a bit extra insulation right before we left. We had a bleak last minute forecast. Fortunately weather turned out great! Believe it or not I’m not really a list guy. If you are serious I could throw something together. I had an extra 3 liters of space in a fanny pack too! Headlamp .. maps.. snacks type stuff. Thanks for checking it out! It was a special trip!

notbad
09-19-2018, 15:06
It’s good to see Tipi here! My favorite character on whiteblaze! By far the best trip reports here! I need to get a saw!!

PatmanTN
09-19-2018, 16:55
The fascinating thing about these kind of trips is the level of commitment to your gear and your time table. Most “backpacking” trips if you need to bail, the road or a well traveled trail is not far away. Even in Colorado’s larger wilderness areas if you follow a drainage long enough, you’ll hit a road. Not so in the wild, Wild West. Better have your sheet together on gear, pack weight, daily mileage and conditioning. Especially at elevations above 10K.

Patman, glad you were able to arrest your slide on the snow field. We have morons every year that get busted up or worse slide over a cliff while glissading down a slope.
Thanks Hosh, yeah you get it. It's not obvious if you've never researched this area/route but this trip had some stress about it for all the reasons you mention.

Venchka
09-19-2018, 17:30
I just read the Shoshone and Bridger-Teton National Forest food storage rules. The Ursack qualifies.
Wayne

Hosh
09-19-2018, 18:54
Thanks Hosh, yeah you get it. It's not obvious if you've never researched this area/route but this trip had some stress about it for all the reasons you mention.

The Colorado Plateau also is very challenging for cross country backpacking. While the elevation is modest, approx 7K, the topography is extremely challenging and often difficult to read. Make a descent in the wrong area and you might not get back out.

notbad
09-19-2018, 21:17
I just read the Shoshone and Bridger-Teton National Forest food storage rules. The Ursack qualifies.
Wayne
Wayne..... remember.... 38 liter pack... I didn’t bring any food!

swisscross
09-19-2018, 21:56
Wayne..... remember.... 38 liter pack... I didn’t bring any food!

agreed, spam is not food.

notbad
09-19-2018, 22:09
agreed, spam is not food.
Whoa..... hahahaha! Look who showed up at party!! Put your spam packets away kids we’re having chunks of salmon now!!

notbad
09-19-2018, 22:22
Whoa..... hahahaha! Look who showed up at party!! Put your spam packets away kids we’re having chunks of salmon now!!
I’ll rest assured that the cuisine next summer at gates of the artic will be of much finer fare!

Venchka
09-20-2018, 00:28
Wayne..... remember.... 38 liter pack... I didn’t bring any food!
You da Man!
I read in another forum that the two bike touring couples hadn’t finished your bag of candy!
All the best to you!
Wayne

Venchka
09-20-2018, 00:33
I’ll rest assured that the cuisine next summer at gates of the artic will be of much finer fare!
My new favorite backpacking meal:
Backpackers Pantry Chicken Picatta with Capers. Awesome!
Spam? Salmon? Tuna too? Sick.
👍😄
Wayne

colorado_rob
09-20-2018, 08:01
This has been so amazingly cool to follow, and inspirational as well. I keep wondering if this route is still feasible to squeeze in yet this year, given our amazing September weather this year...

So, again, thanks for sharing!

Finally, since this went so well, consider the Sierra High Route in your near future.... a quite similar, though about twice as long adventure awaits you. Quite simply our favorite all-time hike, not sure anything has come close, though when we do try this WRHR, I'm sure it will be right up there.

notbad
09-20-2018, 13:18
My new favorite backpacking meal:
Backpackers Pantry Chicken Picatta with Capers. Awesome!
Spam? Salmon? Tuna too? Sick.

Wayne
Thanks Wayne!.... I’ll check it out...as Doug pointed out I could definitely use a little spicing up in my back country kitchen!

notbad
09-20-2018, 13:30
This has been so amazingly cool to follow, and inspirational as well. I keep wondering if this route is still feasible to squeeze in yet this year, given our amazing September weather this year...

So, again, thanks for sharing!

Finally, since this went so well, consider the Sierra High Route in your near future.... a quite similar, though about twice as long adventure awaits you. Quite simply our favorite all-time hike, not sure anything has come close, though when we do try this WRHR, I'm sure it will be right up there.
Thank you Rob! SHR is definitely on the list.( don’t tell my wife I have a list) Man... I’d love to be the one to say go for it. I’d even love to come back for another tour! Two points I’ll make. There are definitely a couple spots on the route I wouldn’t want to be stuck in a 3 day Bufffalo NY style snowstorm! If you do have the patience to wait until around Labor Day next year I’ll as much as promise perfect weather in that window. I spent 23 days there during that time frame in last two years. I had three rain showers. The longest one being two hours! Seems to be the window between the end of afternoon thunderstorms and early season snow...

DuneElliot
09-20-2018, 13:37
Thank you Rob! SHR is definitely on the list.( don’t tell my wife I have a list) Man... I’d love to be the one to say go for it. I’d even love to come back for another tour! Two points I’ll make. There are definitely a couple spots on the route I wouldn’t want to be stuck in a 3 day Bufffalo NY style snowstorm! If you do have the patience to wait until around Labor Day next year I’ll as much as promise perfect weather in that window. I spent 23 days there during that time frame in last two years. I had three rain showers. The longest one being two hours! Seems to be the window between the end of afternoon thunderstorms and early season snow...

Good advice here, Rob. Just like Colorado. Definitely already had several big snow storms in NW Wyoming...ski resorts are already posting pictures...so agree with Notbad...if you can wait for end of August/beginning of September 2019 you'd be in good shape. Doug can tell you about about his group of his friends that hiked in the WRR a week after we did and snow forced them to quit after 3 days.

colorado_rob
09-20-2018, 17:28
Good advice here, Rob. Just like Colorado. Definitely already had several big snow storms in NW Wyoming...ski resorts are already posting pictures...so agree with Notbad...if you can wait for end of August/beginning of September 2019 you'd be in good shape. Doug can tell you about about his group of his friends that hiked in the WRR a week after we did and snow forced them to quit after 3 days.


Thank you Rob! SHR is definitely on the list.( don’t tell my wife I have a list) Man... I’d love to be the one to say go for it. I’d even love to come back for another tour! Two points I’ll make. There are definitely a couple spots on the route I wouldn’t want to be stuck in a 3 day Bufffalo NY style snowstorm! If you do have the patience to wait until around Labor Day next year I’ll as much as promise perfect weather in that window. I spent 23 days there during that time frame in last two years. I had three rain showers. The longest one being two hours! Seems to be the window between the end of afternoon thunderstorms and early season snow... Cool, thanks for the heads up you two, I'll be patient! It's just that the weather in CO has been so perfect... but of course, 400 miles further north can be very different. Again, thanks!

DuneElliot
09-20-2018, 21:31
It's cooled down a lot here over the past couple of days. Here in Casper it is supposed to be highs in the 60s with potential of rain. I think we're done with 90s weather.

MamaSmurf
10-05-2018, 23:26
Awesome trip!! love seeing the pics...yes, late to the thread, but still saw it!!

notbad
10-07-2018, 21:13
Hi mama smurf!... glad you enjoyed... how have you been?

Signpost
12-06-2018, 17:53
Awesome pictures and write up; thanks for sharing! A trip to the winds is definitely near the top of my list.