WTB WM badger, alpinelite

[wperrott92]

looking for a good wide/long bag for shoulder season backpacking, either a WM alpinelite/badger or a nemo sonic 15.

[Venchka]

To date I have been comfy in my Alpinlite Long to an observed 15F with base layer long underwear, hat, gloves and socks. I can’t vouch for lower temperatures because it hasn’t gotten colder at home.
Wayne

[wperrott92]

WM doesn’t use EN ratings but I just noticed that their bags appear to be much warmer than Nemo’s when you look at the fill weights. Looks like the badger has as much down as the sonic zero.

[CalebJ]

I can attest to the 32* Summerlite having kept me comfortable into the 20's on more than one occasion.

[Venchka]

The 20F Alpinlite gets an EN 16F in Europe. Just go to UK online gear sellers.
Or compare the BackpackingLite loft vs. temperature chart to WM bags’ top loft. WM is conservative.
Wayne

[wperrott92]

Much appreciated, I’ve decided I want to expand to backpacking in all 4 seasons down to 0 degrees but am trying to stay at a 2 shelter/sleep system quiver and have it almost all figured out.

[wperrott92]

Based on your experiences with the alpinlite and me being an extremely warm individual I think it’s down to either the badger or Kodiak but probably the badger as that would be more versatile and should be good down to at least single digits.