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dje97001
02-27-2006, 13:49
Is this list of state forests, National Forests, National Parks, State Parks, National Historic places, etc. that the trail passes through complete/correct?

ME
Baxter SP
Bigelow Preserve
Grafton Notch SP

NH
White Mountain NF
-Mt. Washington SP
-Crawford Notch SP
-Franconia Notch SP

VT
Green Mountain NF
-Gifford Woods SP
Calvin Coolidge SF
Green Mountain NF
-Hapgood SF

MA
Clarksburg SF
Mt. Greylock SR
October Mountain SF
Beartown SF
East Mountain SF
Mt. Everett SR

CT
Housatonic SF
Housatonic Meadows SP

NY
Depot Hill SF
Clarence Fahnestock Memorial SP
Hudson Highlands SP
Bear Mountain-Harriman SP

NJ
Abram S. Hewitt SF
Wawayanda SP
High Point SP
Stokes SF
Delaware Water Gap NRA (What does "NRA" mean in this case?)
Worthington SF

PA
Hawk Mountain Sanctuary
Swatara SP
Pine Grove Furnace SP
Michaux SF
Caledonia SP

MD
South Mountain SP
Greenbrier SP
Washington Monument SP
Gathland SP

WV
Harpers Ferry NHP
Sky Meadows SP
G.R. Thompson State Wildlife Management Area
George Washington NF
Jefferson NF
-Grayson Highlands SP
Cherokee NF
Pisgah NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP
Nantahala NF
Chattahoochee NF
-Amicalola SP


Thanks!
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The Cheat
02-27-2006, 13:57
Not sure if this counts, but leaving Connecticut and entering New York, the trail goes right down the middle of the Pawling Nature Reserve.

Here's the information:
http://nature.org/wherewework/northamerica/states/newyork/preserves/art13510.html

MarcnNJ
02-27-2006, 14:30
National Recreation Area

The Solemates
02-27-2006, 17:33
why did you stop at WV?

what about VA, TN, NC, GA?

The Solemates
02-27-2006, 17:34
sorry...i just realized that all the southern states were listed under WV and dont have separate state descriptions.

Cookerhiker
02-27-2006, 17:54
In New Jersey, you may wish to note Walkill National Wildlife Refuge, the only NWR through which the Trail passes.

And in Connecticut, the Trail passes through Shaghticoke Indian Reservation, the subject of many disputes.

Also since you're listing everything by state, the southernmost part of Maine is also in White Mt. National Forest.

dje97001
02-27-2006, 18:28
Solmates: Yikes! How did I miss that... right.

Cheat and Cookerhiker: Nice! That is the kind of stuff I don't want to leave out.

astrogirl
02-27-2006, 22:59
You missed Shenandoah National Park.

dje97001
02-28-2006, 11:12
Thanks for the help, this is the revised list. Anything else I'm missing/or listing incorrectly?

ME
Baxter SP
Bigelow Preserve
Grafton Notch SP
White Mountain NF NH
White Mountain NF
-Mt. Washington SP
-Crawford Notch SP
-Franconia Notch SP

VT
Green Mountain NF
-Gifford Woods SP
Calvin Coolidge SF
Green Mountain NF
-Hapgood SF

MA
Clarksburg SF
Mt. Greylock SR
October Mountain SF
Beartown SF
East Mountain SF
Mt. Everett SR

CT
Housatonic SF
Housatonic Meadows SP
Schaghticoke Indian Reservation

NY
Pawling Nature Reserve
Depot Hill SF
Clarence Fahnestock Memorial SP
Hudson Highlands SP
Bear Mountain-Harriman SP

NJ
Abram S. Hewitt SF
Wawayanda SP
Wallkill NWR
High Point SP
Stokes SF
Delaware Water Gap NRA (What does "NRA" mean in this case?)
Worthington SF

PA
Hawk Mountain Sanctuary
Swatara SP
Pine Grove Furnace SP
Michaux SF
Caledonia SP

MD
South Mountain SP
Greenbrier SP
Washington Monument SP
Gathland SP

WV
Harpers Ferry NHP

VA
Sky Meadows SP
G.R. Thompson State Wildlife Management Area
George Washington NF
-Shenandoah NP
Jefferson NF
-Grayson Highlands SP

TN
Cherokee NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP

NC
Pisgah NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP
Nantahala NF
Chattahoochee NF
-Amicalola SP

dje97001
02-28-2006, 11:14
ME
Baxter SP
Bigelow Preserve
Grafton Notch SP
White Mountain NF

NH
White Mountain NF
-Mt. Washington SP
-Crawford Notch SP
-Franconia Notch SP

VT
Green Mountain NF
-Gifford Woods SP
Calvin Coolidge SF
Green Mountain NF
-Hapgood SF

MA
Clarksburg SF
Mt. Greylock SR
October Mountain SF
Beartown SF
East Mountain SF
Mt. Everett SR

CT
Housatonic SF
Housatonic Meadows SP
Schaghticoke Indian Reservation

NY
Pawling Nature Reserve
Depot Hill SF
Clarence Fahnestock Memorial SP
Hudson Highlands SP
Bear Mountain-Harriman SP

NJ
Abram S. Hewitt SF
Wawayanda SP
Wallkill NWR
High Point SP
Stokes SF
Delaware Water Gap NRA (What does "NRA" mean in this case?)
Worthington SF

PA
Hawk Mountain Sanctuary
Swatara SP
Pine Grove Furnace SP
Michaux SF
Caledonia SP

MD
South Mountain SP
Greenbrier SP
Washington Monument SP
Gathland SP

WV
Harpers Ferry NHP

VA
Sky Meadows SP
G.R. Thompson State Wildlife Management Area
George Washington NF
-Shenandoah NP
Jefferson NF
-Grayson Highlands SP

TN
Cherokee NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP

NC
Pisgah NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP
Nantahala NF
Chattahoochee NF
-Amicalola SP

Alligator
02-28-2006, 16:07
Are you interested in federally designated wilderness areas?

dje97001
02-28-2006, 16:18
Someone asked me the other day how many state forests and national parks we'd be travelling through... and despite all of the research I'd done and all of the things that I had learned, I found myself totally unable to answer that question! So I figured I had better come up with a list. Anyway, I'd like to have a list of all of the various designated areas I'll be walking through. So this is what I've got so far. I'd take whatever you could add.

Alligator
02-28-2006, 18:22
No maps handy, I'm out of town, but I'm fairly certain there are several wilderness areas in VA that the trail passes through.

totempole99
02-28-2006, 18:39
Delaware Water Gap NRA (What does "NRA" mean in this case?)


National Recreation Area

Whistler
02-28-2006, 20:26
TN
Cherokee NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP

NC
Pisgah NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP
Nantahala NF
Chattahoochee NF
-Amicalola SP
Hey! If you list GSMNP under 2 states, you can do the same for the Chattahoochee NF. Where's good ol' GA? :)
-Mark

FatMan
02-28-2006, 20:37
Not a big deal but for the sake of accuracy the current trail does not pass through Amicalola, only the approach trail does. Many thru-hikers by pass the approach trail and reach Springer from FS 42.

dperry
03-01-2006, 01:40
. . .we also have Pennsylvania Game Lands 168, 217, 106, 110, 211, & 170.

BobS
03-02-2006, 08:41
PA also has Weiser State Forest and the DWGNRA. In NY, the trail goes through the new Sterling Forest State Park, but within NPS corridor I think.

dje97001
03-02-2006, 12:07
Good stuff... keep it coming. Thanks.

weary
03-02-2006, 12:28
ME
Baxter SP
Bigelow Preserve
Grafton Notch SP
White Mountain NF

This list has major omissions and the trail in Maine does not go through the White Mountain National Forest.

The major omissions include:

Mahoosuc Preserve, Four Ponds Preserve and Nahmakanta Preserve. Mahoosuc runs from the New Hampshire border to the East B Hill Road north of the multiple Baldpate summits. The relatively small Grafton Notch State Park divides the Mahoosuc Preserve, which totals around 40,000 acres.

Four Ponds is around 15,000 acres between Route 17 and Route 4 south of Saddleback. Nahmakanta is about 40,000 acres located south of Baxter State Park in the so called "100-mile-wilderness."

All three, along with Bigelow, were created in part out of the recovery of 400,000 acres of land that Maine reserved when it sold its public domain during the first half of the 19th century -- and then forgot what it had done. The scattered acres were treated as private lands for more than a century.

Out of court settlements and eventually a Maine Supreme Court decision resulted in the swapping of scattered 1,000+ acre parcels for larger parcels of equal value and more suited for public recreation and state forest management.

There are a number of smaller state preserves through which the trail runs. I don't have a complete list.

Weary

The Solemates
03-02-2006, 13:09
Hey! If you list GSMNP under 2 states, you can do the same for the Chattahoochee NF. Where's good ol' GA? :)
-Mark

for that matter, cherokee national forest is in both TN and NC as well.

and yea, you still left out the GA header, even though Amicalola, et al is listed under NC.

The Solemates
03-02-2006, 13:11
ME
Baxter SP
Bigelow Preserve
Grafton Notch SP
White Mountain NF

This list has major omissions and the trail in Maine does not go through the White Mountain National Forest.

The major omissions include:

Mahoosuc Preserve, Four Ponds Preserve and Nahmakanta Preserve. Mahoosuc runs from the New Hampshire border to the East B Hill Road north of the multiple Baldpate summits. The relatively small Grafton Notch State Park divides the Mahoosuc Preserve, which totals around 40,000 acres.

Four Ponds is around 15,000 acres between Route 17 and Route 4 south of Saddleback. Nahmakanta is about 40,000 acres located south of Baxter State Park in the so called "100-mile-wilderness."

All three, along with Bigelow, were created in part out of the recovery of 400,000 acres of land that Maine reserved when it sold its public domain during the first half of the 19th century -- and then forgot what it had done. The scattered acres were treated as private lands for more than a century.

Out of court settlements and eventually a Maine Supreme Court decision resulted in the swapping of scattered 1,000+ acre parcels for larger parcels of equal value and more suited for public recreation and state forest management.

There are a number of smaller state preserves through which the trail runs. I don't have a complete list.

Weary

I imagine there are a lot of "smaller" areas like this that have been missed in ALL states. Keep up the good work! Id really like to see a complete list, no matter what the size of the lands.

dje97001
03-02-2006, 14:23
I would definitely like a complete list for myself. Has anyone seen one? I don't want to try and re-invent the wheel here...

Weary: I know there is stuff missing, I was using the ATC Wall map as a guide and there is no way they are able to go into such detail on that small a scale. This is the kind of stuff I wanted to get. I figured people (esp. lived near the various sections of trail) would know their own states best.

Solemates, Whistler: Does the trail actually go through the Chattahoochee or Cherokee NF in both states? (This was sort of Weary's point about the Whites I think)

Anyway, here we go again:
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ME
Baxter SP
Bigelow Preserve
Grafton Notch SP
Mahoosuc Preserve
Four Ponds Preserve
Nahmakanta Preserve


NH
White Mountain NF
-Mt. Washington SP
-Crawford Notch SP
-Franconia Notch SP

VT
Green Mountain NF
-Gifford Woods SP
Calvin Coolidge SF
Green Mountain NF
-Hapgood SF

MA
Clarksburg SF
Mt. Greylock SR
October Mountain SF
Beartown SF
East Mountain SF
Mt. Everett SR

CT
Housatonic SF
Housatonic Meadows SP
Schaghticoke Indian Reservation

NY
Pawling Nature Reserve
Depot Hill SF
Clarence Fahnestock Memorial SP
Hudson Highlands SP
Bear Mountain-Harriman SP

NJ
Abram S. Hewitt SF
Wawayanda SP
Wallkill NWR
High Point SP
Stokes SF
Delaware Water Gap NRA (What does "NRA" mean in this case?)
Worthington SF
Sterling Forest SP

PA
Hawk Mountain Sanctuary
Swatara SP
Pine Grove Furnace SP
Michaux SF
Caledonia SP
Game Land 168
Game Land 217
Game Land 106
Game Land 110
Game Land 211
Game Land 170
Weiser SF
Delaware Water Gap NRA

MD
South Mountain SP
Greenbrier SP
Washington Monument SP
Gathland SP

WV
Harpers Ferry NHP

VA
Sky Meadows SP
G.R. Thompson State Wildlife Management Area
George Washington NF
-Shenandoah NP
Jefferson NF
-Grayson Highlands SP

TN
Cherokee NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP

NC
Pisgah NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP
Nantahala NF

GA
Chattahoochee NF

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dje97001
03-02-2006, 14:30
Oh, I contacted the ATC by email yesterday to see if they had a complete listing. I'll let you know if they give me one--obviously.

weary
03-02-2006, 14:50
...(This was sort of Weary's point about the Whites I think)
....-
The small section of the White Mountain National Forest that is in Maine is located several miles south of and across a major highway or two from the Appalachian Trail.

The Solemates
03-02-2006, 15:47
i dont know about the cherokee/catahoochee question. i always thought it did.

and, with the last update you lost amicalola.

The Solemates
03-02-2006, 15:47
oh...and what about county parks? like Pen-Mar etc.?

dje97001
03-02-2006, 16:05
Yeah I lost amicalola because someone recommended taking it off...

Is springer located in amicalola or just north of it?

BobS
03-02-2006, 22:51
C & O Canal National Historical Park

Groucho
03-02-2006, 23:10
Mount Rogers NRA in VA.

Alligator
03-02-2006, 23:20
All of the following are in VA and are wilderness areas:
Lewis Fork
Little Wilson Creek
Beartown
Peters Mountain
Mountain Lake
James River Face
Thunder Ridge
Three Ridges
Priest

In addition, I noticed the Mount Pleasant Scenic Area.

That's it for this evening. Those were easy as the color coding is different.

Whistler
03-02-2006, 23:54
Does the trail actually go through the Chattahoochee or Cherokee NF in both states?

Is springer located in amicalola or just north of it?
The entirety of the Georgia AT lies in the Chattahoochee NF.

Springer is well outside of Amicalola SP, 7 miles+. Only about 1.5 miles of the Approach Trail are in Amicalola proper.

Some more national designations info for Georgia, if you want it:
Ed Jenkins NRA
Blood Mountain Wilderness
Blood Mountain Shelter, Natl Register of Historic Places
Raven Cliffs Wilderness
Mark Trail Wilderness
Tray Mountain Wilderness
Southern Nantahala Wilderness

-Mark

dje97001
03-03-2006, 02:07
My Continued Thanks!
Solemates: where is Pen-Mar?

Would including names of county parks make the list prohibitively long? I like how this list is shaping up though.



Okay, here we go again:
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ME
Baxter SP
Bigelow Preserve
Grafton Notch SP
Mahoosuc Preserve
Four Ponds Preserve
Nahmakanta Preserve


NH
White Mountain NF
-Mt. Washington SP
-Crawford Notch SP
-Franconia Notch SP

VT
Green Mountain NF
-Gifford Woods SP
Calvin Coolidge SF
Green Mountain NF
-Hapgood SF

MA
Clarksburg SF
Mt. Greylock SR
October Mountain SF
Beartown SF
East Mountain SF
Mt. Everett SR

CT
Housatonic SF
Housatonic Meadows SP
Schaghticoke Indian Reservation

NY
Pawling Nature Reserve
Depot Hill SF
Clarence Fahnestock Memorial SP
Hudson Highlands SP
Bear Mountain-Harriman SP

NJ
Abram S. Hewitt SF
Wawayanda SP
Wallkill NWR
High Point SP
Stokes SF
Delaware Water Gap NRA
Worthington SF
Sterling Forest SP

PA
Hawk Mountain Sanctuary
Swatara SP
Pine Grove Furnace SP
Michaux SF
Caledonia SP
Game Land 168
Game Land 217
Game Land 106
Game Land 110
Game Land 211
Game Land 170
Weiser SF
Delaware Water Gap NRA

MD
South Mountain SP
Greenbrier SP
Washington Monument SP
Gathland SP
C & O Canal NHP

WV
Harpers Ferry NHP

VA
Sky Meadows SP
G.R. Thompson State WMA
George Washington NF
-Shenandoah NP
Jefferson NF
-Grayson Highlands SP
Mount Rogers NRA
Lewis Fork Wilderness
Little Wilson Creek Wilderness
Beartown Wilderness
Peters Mountain Wilderness
Mountain Lake Wilderness
James River Face Wilderness
Thunder Ridge Wilderness
Three Ridges Wilderness
Priest Wilderness
Mount Pleasant Scenic Area


TN
Cherokee NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP

NC
Pisgah NF
Great Smoky Mountain NP
Nantahala NF

GA
Chattahoochee NF
Ed Jenkins NRA
Blood Mountain Wilderness
Blood Mountain Shelter NHP
Raven Cliffs Wilderness
Mark Trail Wilderness
Tray Mountain Wilderness
Southern Nantahala Wilderness