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Mouser999
05-03-2019, 14:57
Anyone aware of cooked chicken in 2.5 ounce pouches and NOT the STARKIST Chicken Creations?
Tyson makes a 7.5 oz. pouch, but that is too much meat for one person backpacking.
Thanks

trailmercury
05-03-2019, 15:33
I can't find one...
is there a problem with the Starkist?

Mouser999
05-03-2019, 15:43
Just don't want the flavored pouches. Wanna make my own recipes

trailmercury
05-03-2019, 16:22
Sweet Sue has a 3 oz pouch, sold on Amazon in 8 packs:

https://www.amazon.com/Sweet-Sue-Chicken-Breast-Pack/dp/B01MUGWF7E/ref=pd_sbs_325_5/131-9199863-7181923?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01MUGWF7E&pd_rd_r=f0830595-6dd9-11e9-8254-d7002cb5b05b&pd_rd_w=gfeu4&pd_rd_wg=ryUT3&pf_rd_p=588939de-d3f8-42f1-a3d8-d556eae5797d&pf_rd_r=SM09H9X397MBSE3QGG09&psc=1&refRID=SM09H9X397MBSE3QGG09

Mouser999
05-03-2019, 16:30
Thanks but with shipping it comes to $30 and an only want 3 or 4. Gonna send a note to BumbleBee and see if they carry singles

D2maine
05-03-2019, 17:41
the sweet sue is good...

Nolan "Guido" Jordan
05-03-2019, 17:46
You can probably find Sweet Sue at the supermarket. I got mine at Kroger (I do realize you live in MA, so you probably don't have a Kroger up there like there's some in Tennessee. You may be able to find it at Shaws or Hannaford?

MuddyWaters
05-03-2019, 20:06
Anyone aware of cooked chicken in 2.5 ounce pouches and NOT the STARKIST Chicken Creations?
Tyson makes a 7.5 oz. pouch, but that is too much meat for one person backpacking.
Thanks
About 10 yrs ago tyson sold small pouches
There was a problem with pouches, and some bad product
They dropped the small ones and never reintroduced them.

ADK Walker
05-03-2019, 21:43
the sweet sue is good...

It sure is.

Venchka
05-03-2019, 23:39
Have you tried the Walmart app online? If you find what you want and send it to the nearest Walmart store there’s no shipping. It takes awhile but free shipping is always good.
Wayne

HooKooDooKu
05-03-2019, 23:51
I can get those Sweet Sue foil packets for about $2 at my local Publix

Dogwood
05-04-2019, 00:52
Anyone aware of cooked chicken in 2.5 ounce pouches and NOT the STARKIST Chicken Creations?
Tyson makes a 7.5 oz. pouch, but that is too much meat for one person backpacking.
Thanks

There are no 2.5 oz just chicken in pouches I know. There are 2.6 and 3 oz pouches at some grocery stores like maybe Public that may carry the 3 oz Sweet Sue brand. The 2.6 Starkist Creations are flavored with abysmal cal/and cal/oz ratios usually about 70 cal for the 2.6 ozs. You could get the 7 or 6 ozs chicken pouches divided up between two consecutive meals. It works out similarly. I find it lasts for two days once the package is opened but closed tightly with a bound rubber band and placed into a Ziploc stored in a roller place inside a pack.



Personally, I find it abhorrent no one notes the abysmal 70 calories for 2.6 ozs @ a 27 cal/oz ratio in pouched chicken or 150 cal StarKist Chuck light tuna 2.6 ozs pouches in sunflower oil @ 58 cal/oz(lower cal and cal/oz ratio if in H2O) yet will baitch about powdered PB like PBFit or PB2 not having enough fat, cal, or high enough cal/oz ratios @ a 118 cal/oz ratio AND 14G of protein AND 30% of total calories from fat. PB2 and PBFit are by caloric content 30% fat. Yet, because SOME fat has been removed in powdered PB I've read it reasoned on WB many times it's a "bad" product because powdered PB does not have the full fat content of non powdered PB. WHY then are the same people NOT baitching about pouched tuna and chicken nutrition?:confused: WORSE, is some of that full fat PB obtains some of it's fat content from added hydrogenated oils. UMM, peanuts are not found in Mrs Nature's wisdom to have evolved to contain hydrogenated oil.

Mouser999
05-04-2019, 06:47
Thanks for all the assists. in Mass. we don't have Publix and will try Shaw's. I not thrilled with opening a Tyson 7 and wrapping it up tight for the next days use.
Don't wish to worry about getting sick on the trail from a package that's already been opened. Maybe if I was gonna cook on a fry pan, but planning on it.
Was hoping to make some wraps with the plain chicken. I have relatives in near Publix and gonna see if they can assist in the SweetSue packs. Thanks again

Hikerpatty
05-04-2019, 07:12
I always use Sweet Sue 3 oz. pouches. Tastes good and nothing extra. Worth the price on Amazon, they last a year if more than you need. Maybe can find them online at Walmart. Grocery stores up north don’t carry these.

Mouser999
05-04-2019, 08:38
Looks like I'm gonna go with getting the 8 pack from Amazon when I order some other stuff. As I day hike a lot, they will be lunch on the trail

4eyedbuzzard
05-04-2019, 13:54
Just an observation regarding pouches vs. cans. I've weighed some of the larger pouches and they actually weigh about the same or even more than cans of similar quantity. Not sure about the smaller ones. But there's very little if any weight savings between pouches vs. cans. But pouches are usually quite a bit more expensive. There is less fluid in the pouches, but for something like tuna in olive oil, the oil is high in needed calories anyway, and the higher quality cans of solid white Albacore have mostly tuna and less oil than the less expensive chunk white and even cheaper chunk light. Being an OG, I always have a trusty GI can opener with me (not all cans have pull tabs). Environmentally, cans are easily recyclable but pouches aren't, but cans take more energy to produce and transport, so that's probably a wash.

Mouser999
05-04-2019, 16:20
I find it less of a mess with a pouch, cause I can seal the pouch when done and would need an extra zip locks to put the empty can in when done.
I also find it easier to pack pouches than cans

Dogwood
05-04-2019, 19:35
But you're not going to reseal a pouch you said. A 3 oz pouch of Sweet Sue chicken maybe makes two wraps.

There's more broth in pouched chicken than pouched tuna. Also it seems to me more broth(water?) in the Sweet Sue brand pouched chicken than Tyson brand in the same size pouches. Valley Fresh brand is another you might find in mainstream grocery stores.

Bumble Bee also has 4 oz pouched chicken breast whole but it is spiced in Southwest, BBQ, Lemon and Herb, and Garlic and Herb. I cant see why the last two more milder flavored varieties wouldn't be ideal for including in two wraps.

https://www.amazon.com/Bumble-Bee-Chicken-Southwest-Packages/dp/B001CAR1PE

Mouser999
05-04-2019, 20:56
Not gonna seal a 7oz pouch. I wanna bring my own spices, not what the manufacture drops in. nuff said

somers515
05-04-2019, 21:58
Here's another thread with info regarding pouches of chicken:

https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/107514-Where-to-find-pouches-of-chicken?highlight=

MuddyWaters
05-04-2019, 22:10
Just an observation regarding pouches vs. cans. I've weighed some of the larger pouches and they actually weigh about the same or even more than cans of similar quantity. Not sure about the smaller ones. But there's very little if any weight savings between pouches vs. cans. But pouches are usually quite a bit more expensive. There is less fluid in the pouches, but for something like tuna in olive oil, the oil is high in needed calories anyway, and the higher quality cans of solid white Albacore have mostly tuna and less oil than the less expensive chunk white and even cheaper chunk light. Being an OG, I always have a trusty GI can opener with me (not all cans have pull tabs). Environmentally, cans are easily recyclable but pouches aren't, but cans take more energy to produce and transport, so that's probably a wash.
^ +

Cans arent heavy, they are light aluminum
And your heel flattens them to not take up much room in garbage.
Chicken is packed in a lot of water in either.

I also like cans of ham. Not spam, which is awful. Can be hard to find. Perfect in red beans and rice.

4eyedbuzzard
05-04-2019, 22:46
^ +

Cans arent heavy, they are light aluminum
And your heel flattens them to not take up much room in garbage.
Chicken is packed in a lot of water in either.
And just to add, you can't make a mouse trapeze, alcohol stove, or candle holder out of a used pouch.

MuddyWaters
05-05-2019, 12:38
And just to add, you can't make a mouse trapeze, alcohol stove, or candle holder out of a used pouch.
And albertsons has sweet sue 3 oz cans

One Half
05-05-2019, 18:14
I know SOMEONE around here has weighed a can and a pouch. What's the difference in weight for a 3oz can vs 3oz pouch?

Dogwood
05-05-2019, 18:33
The clean pouch weighs slightly less than the clean can when contents are tuna in the same amount of food as measured by caloric content or dry wt. But tuna cans are Sn not Al. Never saw a discarded pouch in a fire ring while cans....

MuddyWaters
05-05-2019, 20:52
Never saw a discarded pouch in a fire ring while cans....<br>

Ive seen many
But many cans too...
They leave a light thin foil behind after burning often
Not sure why it dont melt, but it often doesnt and its mixed up in ash

I weighed them years ago...then quit worrying. Dont recall exactly what, but Its a fraction of oz. The difference for several would add up to under half oz.

4eyedbuzzard
05-05-2019, 22:25
The clean pouch weighs slightly less than the clean can when contents are tuna in the same amount of food as measured by caloric content or dry wt. But tuna cans are Sn not Al. Never saw a discarded pouch in a fire ring while cans....Sn, Tin, is not used for most modern cans except for the thin electroplating of the steel when a tin plated can is called for. Tin is pretty expensive relative to Al or steel. Most modern cans are either aluminum or steel alloys (steel could be tin plated), and most are coated with plastic on the inside.

A lot of the pouches are multi-layer laminates and have a thin layer of metal foil in them, usually between plastic layers. There is also the mylar type stuff where a very thin layer of aluminum (< 1 micron) is deposited on the polyester/mylar. If the fire isn't hot enough, the foil will be left behind.