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dhagan
01-08-2020, 14:18
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Last Call
01-08-2020, 14:25
Are these "controlled burns" beneficial or harmful? Almost every time I have walked thru one afterwards I see dead turtle shells. I would think they are decimating to the native animals.

Tipi Walter
01-08-2020, 14:47
Are these "controlled burns" beneficial or harmful? Almost every time I have walked thru one afterwards I see dead turtle shells. I would think they are decimating to the native animals.

I've been in a couple controlled burns over the years----as a backpacker of course---and they suck---unless you like living in smoke for several days---and enjoy gulping down gallons of polluted air. Now I carry this item on most of my trips---

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/735025P/3mtm-particulate-respirator-8511-n95.jpg

Venchka
01-08-2020, 15:37
It depends.
Do you want a controlled burn?
Or an out of control burn?
The government tried suppressing wild fires. Look what happened in Yellowstone NP in 1988.
The turtles are still there.
Wayne

Yellowhammer
01-09-2020, 08:42
Short answer is they help. Long answer is it depends on what plants and animals you want to encourage. The long leaf pine ecosystem is adapted for fire.


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RuthN
01-09-2020, 11:23
Last year I set off for an overnight hike on the Lone Star Trail. I saw a huge cloud of smoke over the forest as soon as I got off the interstate, so I stopped in the ranger's office to find out what was going on. They were in fact doing a controlled burn but she told me the section I planned to hike was safe. The trail was blackened with soot and trees were scorched - it had obviously recently been burned. I was barely 1/4 mile in when I started seeing plumes of smoke from small fires here and there and reluctantly turned back after deciding I didn't want to take a chance. That evening I was watching the news and learned that a helicopter carrying crew who were assisting with the burn had crashed in the forest not too far from where I had been hiking. I'm really glad I turned back.

Tipi Walter
01-09-2020, 12:24
I backpacked the Naked Ground Trail (below pic) right after the big Maple Springs wildfire which torched and scorched several thousands acres in North Carolina in the Kilmer/Slickrock wilderness. This was around the same time as the terrible Gatlinburg wildfire. The fire climbed up the ridge and burned a bunch of land all the way up to 5,000+ feet.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2017-Trips-79/19-Day-Quest-To-Scorch-Mountain/i-sthhCGn/0/72a92938/XL/TRIP%20181%20%28436%29-XL.jpg

Tipi Walter
01-09-2020, 12:36
I remember last March 2019 I was backpacking the BMT near Mud Gap and reached Whiggs Meadow in a cloud of smoke as the FS was pulling a couple burns in my area. It sucked!! Here I am atop Whiggs Meadow at 5,000 feet with the fire smoke chasing me off the mountain---

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2019-Trips-195-/24-Day-Expedition-to-Wildcat-Creek/i-gchmL3T/0/91d6cdbb/XL/Trip%20196%20%28262%29-XL.jpg

zelph
01-09-2020, 23:49
Controlled burns are beneficial/necessary, ask the
Aussies. They learned the hard way.