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One Half
08-04-2020, 22:57
Is there a consistent trail rating system? I have often seen different guidebooks state certain trails are "easy, moderate or difficult" but I have no idea if that is consistent for trails from different areas. I also do not know what the ratings I see necessarily mean.

When I used to rock climb, it was pretty easy. If I was fairly consistent at flashing 5.8s and could work out the 5.9s I could also usually safely challenge myself on 5.10.

Is there a rating system based on elevation gain over given distance and allowing for some other factors (terrain, weather extremes, trail treadway)? Obviously long trails could be rated for various sections. On the AT, sections in the Whites would likely have very different ratings than sections in MA and sections in PA.

TNhiker
08-04-2020, 23:50
no......

it's all subjective......

i hate trail ratings like that...

because they are so subjective....

and it gets worse on FB----a person who does a hike every 5 years might say the trail is tough----someone who
hikes on a regular basis is going to say it's easy......

for instance----this lady the other day was saying a 1.9 downhill hike that she did was tough and needed to cut
mileage down...

my thought was how much mileage can one really trim off of a short hike?

i'd rather look at an elevation profile or a map and see what im getting into rather than rely on someone's opinion
about how tough a trail is...

JNI64
08-05-2020, 00:35
This is true what TNhikers saying it's subjective to ones abilities. So with rock-climbing who rates the climb the first accender? I've always wondered about this :-? . For instance if I find a new climbing route and I'm the first accent do I rate it ? Same as trails who rates them? Again what's is a 1.9 to me might be a 5.9 to you ( whatever that means).

TNhiker
08-05-2020, 00:43
So with rock-climbing who rates the climb the first accender?


(disclaimer---i'm not a climber.......but am sorta familiar with the sport)

it's essentially the same way but based on other people's subjective interpretation of the route....

it's alot of comparison and contrast for those numbers based on prior knowledge.

JNI64
08-05-2020, 00:59
Ok the person who gets to rate said trail or climb ,do they have to have a certain amount of experience? And who decides yeah they have enough experience to deam this rated whatever?

JNI64
08-05-2020, 01:01
because it's important it goes in trail guides and map books and climbing routes for peoples future adventures!

TNhiker
08-05-2020, 01:53
Ok the person who gets to rate said trail or climb ,do they have to have a certain amount of experience?




nope.......

TNhiker
08-05-2020, 01:54
but i think in the climber's world----people would get called out on their rating...

an inexperienced person might do the first climb of a route, then name it and give it a rating...

then a more experienced climber will come along and climb same route and go--

"you rated that a (fill in the blank)? it's more like a (fill in the blank lower number)?"

Traveler
08-05-2020, 07:34
There really is not a standard rating system for hiking trail difficulty, given the enormous differences of terrain, altitude, seasonal elements, and differences between the age and physical condition of hikers. Some scales are mathematical in nature, using elevation gain multiplied by two, multiplied by distance in miles and using the square root of the product to provide a numerical rating. Shenandoah National Park uses this process to develop a rating system.

For example a 2,200-foot elevation gain on a 10-mile hike is calculated: 2,200 feet x 2 = 4,400 x 10 miles = 44,000, Square root = 209.8. This number is then applied to the Easy, Moderate, Strenuous, Very Strenuous. In this example this trail would be rated at the Very Strenuous level.

Then there is the non-mathematic driven scale of wetting one's finger to the wind and determining how difficult it was for the hiker and make the rating call based on that. And all sorts of things in-between.

The only real consistency in trail ratings is to find a scale one likes and stick with it as best you can. This requires some topographical map work to estimate elevation gains and distances to either get a feel for the difficulty or to apply some mathematical processes, but is worth the effort and tends to level the difficulty assessment between various aged and conditioned authors in guide books or reviews. This also allows the hiker to apply their own calculus into the mix like average hiking speed(s), water consumption rates, and other elements that can impact the hike.

garlic08
08-05-2020, 08:27
A friend took a trail assessment class in Arizona and it covered some kind of standard. She tried to explain it to me but I wasn't interested. She wasn't impressed with it either.

When I think of trail difficulty, it's often seasonal or temporary, as Traveler mentioned above.

Slo-go'en
08-05-2020, 08:31
Another commonly used formula is 1/2 hour per mile plus 1/2 hour per 1000 feet of elevation gain. The GMC and I believe the AMC use that formula.

They then use those times to rate the difficulty of a trail segment. A 2 hour or less hike is rated "easy", 3-4 hours "moderate" 6 to 8 hours "difficult", over 8 hours, "extreme".

There can be as much as a +/- 20% deviation from "book time" depending on other factors such as your experience and fitness level, how heavy a load your carrying, how much your knees hurt on the down hills and a very steep, rocky down hill can take longer due to the need to be careful with footing, if it's raining and so on. Also don't forget to add in time for breaks. Few people can hike for 6 to 8 hours with out stopping for breaks.

Dan Roper
08-05-2020, 08:56
Way too subjective and variable for a rating system.

I can say this: any climb of 700 feet per mile or more is very arduous.

Usually, a climb of 300 or 400 or 500 feet per mile is fine. But if it comes at the end of a long day, or under the summer sun, it's something entirely different from something done early in the morning on a crisp October afternoon. IE, the same trail would earn very different ratings based upon the fitness and weariness of the hiker, weather, season, etc.

Odd Man Out
08-05-2020, 10:38
I ran into this problem last year. We had a family reunion at my sister's house in Utah. We thought we would go for a hike up in the Wasatch Mountains. Several trail guided recommended a short out and back hike to a high alpine lake. The guide said it was easy and appropriate for all ages, which was important our group include ages 2 to 87. As it turned out only a few of us could make it to the end. The trail was not steep or long, but very rocky with some scrambling and places were washed out with stream crossing necessary. I know "easy" is subjective, but people writing guides could be more objective in trail descriptions and let people make their own decisions. As the OP said, there are objective criteria for evaluating climbing routes. The same could be done for trails.

HooKooDooKu
08-05-2020, 11:13
Climbers have the Yosemite Decimal System (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_Decimal_System#:~:text=The%20Yosemite%20D ecimal%20System%20(YDS,the%20United%20States%20and %20Canada.) to indicate the difficulty of a climb. It's a documented system that has been refined over many decades.

No such system has gained popular acceptance to define the difficulty of back country hiking trails.

Doesn't mean people are not trying... I seem to recall a news story a few years ago about some grad students were working on a machine that they would take out to trails in a local state park to try to measure and quantify the difficulty of different trails.


Another commonly used formula is 1/2 hour per mile plus 1/2 hour per 1000 feet of elevation gain...
Who is using this formula?
Because the one I heard is 1/2 hour per mile plus 1 full hour per 1,000' of cumulative elevation gain.I've found this to be pretty accurate for me as a backpacker, as well as casual hikers I've shared with.

scrabbler
08-05-2020, 11:45
Elevation profile is usually a good initial indicator. However, even a flat trail can be "difficult" if it's unmarked with lots of spur trails - ie difficult to follow.

Odd Man Out
08-05-2020, 13:23
Elevation profiles have their limitations. Trail tread is important too. Ridgelines in PA are flat and straight, but if you are walking on rocks, it makes it very hard. Also do water crossings have bridges. And elevation profiles don't have the resolution to show a 10 foot scramble up a rock wall.

Slo-go'en
08-05-2020, 13:41
Who is using this formula?
Because the one I heard is 1/2 hour per mile plus 1 full hour per 1,000' of cumulative elevation gain. I've found this to be pretty accurate for me as a backpacker, as well as casual hikers I've shared with.

The Green Mountain Club LT guide and the AMC White Mountain guide both use the 0.5 MPH + 0.5 hour/1000 foot gain formula for their published book times.

There's a trail down the street from me which climbs 900 feet in 0.8 miles and I can do it in about 45 minutes, so I do a little better then book time. Of course, I'm used that kind of trail.


The trail was not steep or long, but very rocky with some scrambling and places were washed out with stream crossing necessary. I know "easy" is subjective, but people writing guides could be more objective in trail descriptions and let people make their own decisions.
It's possible that the trail conditions changed since the trail description was written. One good heavy rain storm can do that in an area which doesn't get a lot of rain. Or it was a poorly written trail description as it apparently didn't mention the rocks and scrambles.

mclaught
08-05-2020, 23:38
Way too subjective and variable for a rating system.

I can say this: any climb of 700 feet per mile or more is very arduous.

Usually, a climb of 300 or 400 or 500 feet per mile is fine. But if it comes at the end of a long day, or under the summer sun, it's something entirely different from something done early in the morning on a crisp October afternoon. IE, the same trail would earn very different ratings based upon the fitness and weariness of the hiker, weather, season, etc.

+1 - my thoughts exactly. Some of the hardest hikes for me caught me by surprise. In GA, "As Knob" SOBO was brutal for me, and "Round Top" NOBO took out my buddy for a couple of days, and that's not even listed in the AWOL. Looking at the map, they really shouldn't be that bad, but I don't think we were mentally ready for those because they aren't "big name" peaks, and they both came at the end of long days. So yeah, it's going to be subjective, but it would be cool if there was a universal standard like climbing has. After awhile, I'd learn that the "experts'" rating of 5 might mean a 10 (or 20) to me.

JNI64
08-05-2020, 23:56
+1 - my thoughts exactly. Some of the hardest hikes for me caught me by surprise. In GA, "As Knob" SOBO was brutal for me, and "Round Top" NOBO took out my buddy for a couple of days, and that's not even listed in the AWOL. Looking at the map, they really shouldn't be that bad, but I don't think we were mentally ready for those because they aren't "big name" peaks, and they both came at the end of long days. So yeah, it's going to be subjective, but it would be cool if there was a universal standard like climbing has. After awhile, I'd learn that the "experts'" rating of 5 might mean a 10 (or 20) to me.

Lol, yeah some them bumps on the AWOL map are deceiving for sure. That little line going up hill for just one inch doesn't show all rock and root and steepness etc.....

Slo-go'en
08-06-2020, 08:12
What I call "micro bumps" which don't show up on the trail profile can wear you out. That "flat" ridge walk wasn't so flat after all...

Seatbelt
08-06-2020, 12:57
What I call "micro bumps" which don't show up on the trail profile can wear you out. That "flat" ridge walk wasn't so flat after all...
This. A PUD of 30-50' in elevation gain/loss will not show up on most profile maps but several of these in a row will definitely wear on you.

Dan Roper
08-06-2020, 20:13
Yes. As I hiked in the Southern Appalachians through the years, the elevation profiles were daunting. From Blood Mountain to Hump Mountain was just one steep climb after another. When I got the maps for the north part of Tennessee, one section stood out - north of U.S. Hwy 19e, the trail profile was remarkably flat. I couldn't wait to get there. And finally I did. Awakening early in the morning at Mountaineer Shelter, I was ready to experience my first real level hiking on the AT. Only it wasn't. It was an endless series of small ups and downs - too small to appear in the elevation profile but cumulatively very tiring. Add to that, most of the downhills were in humid laurel thickets. The 9.6 miles to Moreland Gap Shelter was very tiring...and the dadgum map showed it a flat-line lark, a real pleasant walk in the woods. After that, I concluded that there will never be any easy hikes on the AT. That nice pasture walk? Open sun will make it a blazing meadow of death. Downhill? Killer on the knees. Backpacking is always arduous, at least at my age.

rmitchell
08-07-2020, 08:06
As several have commented elevation profile can be deceiving. "Micro puds" don't show on the profiles, nor does erosion, loose rocks or exposed roots.

I was talking to a fellow hiker who had just finished the 900. He said that in his opinion that Cold Spring Gap was the most difficult trail in the Smokies. Yet on profile it looks very similar to Low Gap coming out of Cosby or Ramsey Cascades.

HooKooDooKu
08-07-2020, 09:33
As several have commented elevation profile can be deceiving. "Micro puds" don't show on the profiles, nor does erosion, loose rocks or exposed roots.

I was talking to a fellow hiker who had just finished the 900. He said that in his opinion that Cold Spring Gap was the most difficult trail in the Smokies. Yet on profile it looks very similar to Low Gap coming out of Cosby or Ramsey Cascades.
I've found the "most difficult" can change based on conditions (such as how muddy it is during a wet spell).
But right now, I consider Gunter Fork to be the most difficult, because not only does it have the change in elevation, several creek crossings that can be difficult rock hoppers, but the worst of all is the trail erosion... places where the trail is literally falling off the side of the mountain and land slides taking out sections of the trail.

blackmagic
08-08-2020, 21:19
The Appalachian Mountain Club had dealt with this problem for years because each chapter had its own difficulty rating systems (pl.) -- each committee within the chapters (backpacking, paddling, cycling...) might have its own unique difficulty rating system. I won't bore you with the details, but they finally settled on a unified rating system last year (https://www.outdoors.org/outdoor-activities/difficulty-ratings) -- at least, unified for the AMC.

OwenM
08-09-2020, 01:36
When I used to rock climb, it was pretty easy. If I was fairly consistent at flashing 5.8s and could work out the 5.9s I could also usually safely challenge myself on 5.10.
I used to climb some, and while the ratings were fairly consistent, even that is relative.
I've easily knocked out 5.10s whose ratings were based on big power moves, and struggled on 5.9s with slopers at the crux.

Elevation profiles don't tell me that much. Sure a 4k' climb to a pass in the Rockies is 8x more elevation gain than a 500' one out of a gorge, and may even be similarly steep, but it's what the trail looks like at ground level that matters most.
You know what these 3 trail sections have in common?

46681

46682

46683

They all look exactly the same on a topo.

treroach
08-09-2020, 08:34
Another great post and learning opportunity here! Crafting a good rating system for trail difficulty is challenging, but would be welcome by me, at least. No, it won’t cover all the ground (bad pun intended) and there are too many variables, but why let perfect be the enemy of good? Sure beats having to listen to someone go on and on about there own experiences while doubt about the speaker’s credibility and sanity creeps in. Still, as a contrarian, I’ll do just that and say that I just reached Waynesboro, VA, going NOBO and the climb up Three Ridges was by far the hardest yet. A rating system might need an index for difficultly when not maintained during pandemic. That said, I say ‘thank you, thank you, thank you’ to the trail maintainers I have seen out here, who this year hv bn far more numerous than thru-hikers.

Tipi Walter
08-09-2020, 11:57
Way too subjective and variable for a rating system.

I can say this: any climb of 700 feet per mile or more is very arduous.

Usually, a climb of 300 or 400 or 500 feet per mile is fine. But if it comes at the end of a long day, or under the summer sun, it's something entirely different from something done early in the morning on a crisp October afternoon. IE, the same trail would earn very different ratings based upon the fitness and weariness of the hiker, weather, season, etc.

I equate a tough Nut hump with significant pack weight to coincide with a thousand foot gain in one mile. I know of many such nut humps.

Then there are Nut Hauls from 2,000 feet on a creek to 5,000 feet on a mountaintop in 4.5 miles---or the notorious Upper Slickrock hump which gains 2,000 feet in about 3 miles---and some of it vertical on rock and tree roots.

And let's never discount these factors--

** Doing these climbs with significant pack weight like 80 lbs up to 100 lbs---nothing quite like it.

** Doing these climbs in a debilitated state---like with influenza or walking pneumonia etc. I remember once I was going up the BMT on Sycamore Creek in a sick state and it took me 7 hours to go two miles.

** Dealing with hellish blowdowns on any kind of trail---but most esp on one of these Nut Steep hauls. Reminds me of encountering this beast on my way up the Nutbuster Slickrock trail---

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202-/24-Days-Without-A-Smartphone/i-KSQdnqs/0/52ccfc1a/XL/Trip%20203%20%28363%29-XL.jpg

Tipi Walter
08-09-2020, 12:01
So anyway, a trail rating system would have to include
Pack Weight
Physical Condition of your body
Blowdowns.

Imagine using a cleared trail with a 75 lb pack and then do an off-trail bushwhack with the same weight---there's no comparison. (I'm talking about a bushwhack here in the Southeast mts and not out West).

JNI64
08-09-2020, 12:59
So this trail is rated a 4 with a 20 lb pack or this trail is rated a 9 with a 75lb pack? This trail is rated a 4 if you're in great shape or a 9 if you're fat and out of shape? And blow downs are constantly changing they wouldn't be able to include them. I agree there should be some sort of rating system to let hikers know what's coming because it can be deceptive.

Odd Man Out
08-09-2020, 15:49
I don't think it makes sense to have one number to rate a trail. It would better rate it on a variety of factors with an objective rubric and let hikers decide for themselves what's hard vs easy

JNI64
08-09-2020, 16:16
Yup, an objective rubric ways is the best . And let us hikers decide for ourselves what's hard vs easy

Tipi Walter
08-09-2020, 17:09
I'd say a 1,000 foot gain in one mile is all you need to determine the "difficulty" of a trail.

A perfect example is on the BMT leaving Double Spring Gap to the top of Big Frog Mt.

Slo-go'en
08-09-2020, 17:19
Of course there's an endless list of things which can influence a trail's difficulty. The 2 MPH + 30min/1000 feet average is a good starting point.

If you have a guide book with actual trail descriptions, that can be helpful. If the description says "1000 foot climb up steep, open ledges with poor footing and loose rock, you know it's going to take some extra time.

Are ATC section guide books with detailed, blow by blow trail descriptions still available? I still have the guides for Maine, MA/CT, NY/NJ and PA, vintage 1982. It seems we no longer care that at mile 6.4 "Pass old open cut strip mine on left, with Rausch creek on right shortly after trail turns towards the left now following an old stage road for the next 6.2 miles".

One Half
08-09-2020, 20:04
I used to climb some, and while the ratings were fairly consistent, even that is relative.
I've easily knocked out 5.10s whose ratings were based on big power moves, and struggled on 5.9s with slopers at the crux.

Elevation profiles don't tell me that much. Sure a 4k' climb to a pass in the Rockies is 8x more elevation gain than a 500' one out of a gorge, and may even be similarly steep, but it's what the trail looks like at ground level that matters most.
You know what these 3 trail sections have in common?

46681

46682

46683

They all look exactly the same on a topo.
they look the same on a topo or on an elevation profile? I used to always use topo maps. They give a much better idea than a "profile" if you are good at reading a topo IMO.

One Half
08-09-2020, 20:07
So anyway, a trail rating system would have to include
Pack Weight
Physical Condition of your body
Blowdowns.

Imagine using a cleared trail with a 75 lb pack and then do an off-trail bushwhack with the same weight---there's no comparison. (I'm talking about a bushwhack here in the Southeast mts and not out West).


So this trail is rated a 4 with a 20 lb pack or this trail is rated a 9 with a 75lb pack? This trail is rated a 4 if you're in great shape or a 9 if you're fat and out of shape? And blow downs are constantly changing they wouldn't be able to include them. I agree there should be some sort of rating system to let hikers know what's coming because it can be deceptive.

I don't think a system would have to consider pack weight, other than to say something like "assumes a pack weight between 30-35 lbs" or something similar. Then if I have a lesser or greater pack weight I could adjust my expectations. The idea of a rating system isn't that it's perfect but that it is fairly consistent so regardless of what a trail is rated, once I know my abilities, I can adjust. Trail rated on 1-10 scale for difficulty gets a 7 but I just started hiking and I know it will probably feel like a 9 or 10 for me. Likewise, a seasoned hiker might see a rating of 7 and be able to say "that's a 4 for me."

One Half
08-09-2020, 20:08
I don't think it makes sense to have one number to rate a trail. It would better rate it on a variety of factors with an objective rubric and let hikers decide for themselves what's hard vs easy
good idea actually. one could rate "elevation changes" and "treadway" as a few people have pointed out already.

OwenM
08-10-2020, 00:08
they look the same on a topo or on an elevation profile? I used to always use topo maps. They give a much better idea than a "profile" if you are good at reading a topo IMO.
Noone familiar with reading topographic maps would need to ask.

Traveler
08-10-2020, 07:07
Noone familiar with reading topographic maps would need to ask.

Developing a trail rating system on a national level is would be extremely difficult. Just in this thread alone there are numerous thoughts on how to set them up, Tipi's idea of pack weight along with physical condition is interesting but would require something like the windchill factor chart to figure out. Typically when I am looking at a new trail I will look at a topographical map to understand terrain difficulty, distances, access trails, etc., then will apply that to a trail rating if available. The things I will judge against a particular trail rating typically are:

Time of year (do I need cold weather gear, traction/snowshoes, carry more water due to hot weather, etc)
Weather forecast
# of days on trail (is this a day hike, 1-3 nighter, a week or more)
Pack weight
Miles between campsites (or round trip day hike)
Elevation gain (per day)
Average altitude (rarified or sea level atmosphere)
Average speed estimation

I believe it's the hiker's responsibility to apply their circumstance to the trail rating given the huge differences between trails, terrain, altitude, weather, hiker age/physical condition, gear load, and experience.

As Owen points out, using a topographical map along with a trail rating I can usually pin down the difficulty for me with the gear I plan to carry.

Time Zone
08-10-2020, 09:38
There really is not a standard rating system for hiking trail difficulty, given the enormous differences of terrain, altitude, seasonal elements, and differences between the age and physical condition of hikers. Some scales are mathematical in nature, using elevation gain multiplied by two, multiplied by distance in miles and using the square root of the product to provide a numerical rating. Shenandoah National Park uses this process to develop a rating system.

For example a 2,200-foot elevation gain on a 10-mile hike is calculated: 2,200 feet x 2 = 4,400 x 10 miles = 44,000, Square root = 209.8. This number is then applied to the Easy, Moderate, Strenuous, Very Strenuous. In this example this trail would be rated at the Very Strenuous level.

Then there is the non-mathematic driven scale of wetting one's finger to the wind and determining how difficult it was for the hiker and make the rating call based on that. And all sorts of things in-between.

The only real consistency in trail ratings is to find a scale one likes and stick with it as best you can. This requires some topographical map work to estimate elevation gains and distances to either get a feel for the difficulty or to apply some mathematical processes, but is worth the effort and tends to level the difficulty assessment between various aged and conditioned authors in guide books or reviews. This also allows the hiker to apply their own calculus into the mix like average hiking speed(s), water consumption rates, and other elements that can impact the hike.





I'd like to echo Traveler's comments here, and mention a rating system that is used in my area and that I've found pretty helpful. Rather than a rating that produces a result in hours (as some here do), this system is just points-based. Said to have been developed by the founder of NOLS, Petzoldt, and later empirically tested, it assigns 1 point per mile walked and 1 point for every 500 feet of elevation gain. Thus, Mt. Leconte via Alum Cave Trail is 11 mile roundtrip + 2763' elevation gain = 16.53. According to the info on this page:

http://www.hikinginthesmokys.com/aboutus.htm
(scroll down)

empirical testing revealed that on average, energy cost measures would indicate that the points per 500 feet of elevation gain (they give it per 1000') should be closer to 0.8, but there was a range that depended on the hiker's sex, weight, and presumably other variables (pack weight, etc). As others have stated here, it does not capture things like shade, roughness of terrain, or hiker fitness.

Anyway, I agree with Traveler that if you find a formula for trail difficulty that seems to reflect your subjective experience, stick with it. For me, this formula feels about right, the data to put in it are easy to find, so I've found it helpful. YMMV.

OwenM
08-13-2020, 11:19
As Owen points out, using a topographical map along with a trail rating I can usually pin down the difficulty for me with the gear I plan to carry.
The purpose of my post was to illustrate that things the topo does NOT show can significantly affect the difficulty(perhaps "required time" would be more apt) of a trail. It's easy to forget, and need reminding of, for people who don't hike much in rough terrain, or on less well maintained trails.
Experience in a given area can help, but I've been handed some big surprises by trails that seemed quite innocuous when looking at the map, because it only shows things in 2 dimensions.
Some of the slowest miles I've ever done were a "shortcut" via unfamiliar trails that rarely crossed a contour line on a map with a contour interval of 50ft. Having what looks like a 2hr route take 4.5 is not what you want when racing the setting sun!

One Half
09-11-2020, 19:11
So I have been watching the Tour. I'm kind of a fanatic for the Tour. Not cycling in general, I actually dislike riding myself. BUT, every July I am glued to the TV for hours watching the excitement. This year, due to Covid, it was delayed until Aug 29th start date. So I thought I would look at the rating system cycling has for how they classify climbs. Thought I would share this.

https://cyclingskills.blogspot.com/2008/07/rating-climbs-and-defining-percent.html

I think something similar could be applied broadly to backpacking. In cycling the minimum weights for bikes are dictated, regardless of the size of the rider. I think we could apply something like that to the weight of a backpack, FOR RATING PURPOSES ONLY. Perhaps the rating is based on a 25lb backpack. This will be less than many and more than many. But overall, a system could be created for rating trail sections.

kolokolo
09-11-2020, 21:00
So I have been watching the Tour. I'm kind of a fanatic for the Tour. Not cycling in general, I actually dislike riding myself. BUT, every July I am glued to the TV for hours watching the excitement. This year, due to Covid, it was delayed until Aug 29th start date. So I thought I would look at the rating system cycling has for how they classify climbs. Thought I would share this.

https://cyclingskills.blogspot.com/2008/07/rating-climbs-and-defining-percent.html

I think something similar could be applied broadly to backpacking. In cycling the minimum weights for bikes are dictated, regardless of the size of the rider. I think we could apply something like that to the weight of a backpack, FOR RATING PURPOSES ONLY. Perhaps the rating is based on a 25lb backpack. This will be less than many and more than many. But overall, a system could be created for rating trail sections.

You would also want to account for other factors, like whether the surface was smooth or rocky, and maybe also whether there was a slope across the trail.