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JPritch
04-01-2021, 15:04
I see a bunch of these different breakfast and dessert items in a cup, just add water and microwave one minute. They are individually packaged, very lightweight, and apparently taste good. Just wondering if anybody has found a way to make them work on trail? They call for microwaving at home, so I'm not sure if adding boiling water and holding over your stove would work or not, or perhaps cooking it in your pot.

Examples: https://www.target.com/p/kodiak-cakes-chocolate-chip-minute-muffin/-/A-54516540?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&fndsrc=tmnv&DFA=71700000081359181&CPNG=PLA_DVM%2B0060H00000vkh73QAA-Kodiak__Google+Search_Annual+Flight&adgroup=PLA_Kodiak+Cakes&LID=700000001393753pgs&network=g&device=c&location=9008908&gclid=CjwKCAjw3pWDBhB3EiwAV1c5rFue_68oSNpFm50sr2d4 UmJdblKIxHhmK_kgZVkp2Gy2-GxOrzMnYxoCd2IQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.amazon.com/Quaker-Jemima-Pancake-Variety-Individual/dp/B07R37TB9K/ref=asc_df_B07R37TB9K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459693950627&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17130180912391050197&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9053011&hvtargid=pla-942125583736&psc=1

Tuxhiker
04-01-2021, 15:08
Why don't you experiment at home using hot water and/or stovetop and let us know if you figure something out?

JNI64
04-01-2021, 15:14
Interesting, if 1 min mash potatoes and rice etc work in freezer bags why wouldn't this ? Dump content into freezer bag at home and add boiling water, set into cozy for a few moments then get your IHOP syrup packs and enjoy.

JNI64
04-01-2021, 15:34
There's also silicone cups for baking you could bake over a fire or a simmer mode on a stove.

Deadeye
04-01-2021, 16:23
There's also silicone cups for baking you could bake over a fire or a simmer mode on a stove.

I think you're on to something there. Silicone can handle baking temps, but doesn't do well with flame. I was going to test some silicone oven pads as a base for my alcohol stoves, but all I had to do was flick a bic to set them on fire.

Another option might be an anodized non-stick pot. Testing definitely required, might be tasty.

zelph
04-01-2021, 16:41
Some of you might remember this muffin mix:

My mix is made up of 1 box chocolate cake mix and 1 box angel food cake mix combined. (my "basic" mix)


To make a muffin I use:

4 tablespoons "basic mix"

2.5 tablespoons of water

Mix in snack size ziplock, cut corner of ziploc and squeeze out mix into greased bake pan. I used coconut oil to grease the pan.

Put 1/2" water in Imusa Mug, bring to boil, place pan on top of mug, put lid on, bake for 5 min.

Remove pan from mug and let cool/rest

Sprinkle w/powdered sugar....enjoy

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The stainless steel pan has some holes punched near the top rim to allow steem to enter above the cake mix.


This photo ahows where the steam holes are located:

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Deadeye
04-01-2021, 20:02
I'd try making the batter by pouring boiling water in the cup the mix is packaged in - it's tough enough to go in the microwave. Then "poach" the cup in a pot of hot water with a lid on the pot. It would steam the cake like a dumpling. You wouldn't get any browning, but you wouldn't get that in a microwave either.

If the package cup couldn't handle that much moisture, or if it won't fit in the pot, mix the batter in a metal coffee mug and steam it.

Deadeye
04-01-2021, 20:03
I'd try making the batter by pouring boiling water in the cup the mix is packaged in - it's tough enough to go in the microwave. Then "poach" the cup in a pot of hot water with a lid on the pot. It would steam the cake like a dumpling. You wouldn't get any browning, but you wouldn't get that in a microwave either. <br><br>If the package cup couldn't handle that much moisture, or if it won't fit in the pot, mix the batter in a metal coffee mug and steam it.<br><br>

Aand now that I've read Zelph's post, exactly - do what he did!

zelph
04-01-2021, 22:49
If you're looking for a "browning effect" use this on top::D

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LoneStranger
04-02-2021, 04:41
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A kettle is my preferred baking tool for making one muffin/roll at a time. I use a bigger pot to bake three at a time on family trips but the taller pot doesn't brown the tops as well.

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I dry bake using a silicone mold that has a support under it to keep it from melting to the bottom.

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You can see actual browning on the top and bottom which you don't get from steam baking.

Generally I make either blueberry muffins or plain biscuits, but seeing Zelph's choco muffin recipe makes me think I need to branch out :)

lucky luke
04-02-2021, 07:51
If you're looking for a "browning effect" use this on top::D

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do you guys still get the old nutella? in germany the mix has changed some time ago. it tastes different and its a much lighter brown now. the old stuff from your picture was much better.

i used it instead of chocolate in cakes.

zelph
04-02-2021, 09:22
I have not made a recent purchase of Nutella, don't know about a change in color or taste.



non stick coated steel angel food cake pan that is 3-5/8" dia. also works well for steam baking:

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zelph
04-02-2021, 09:29
This is the type of lid used on my Imusa mug baking pot:

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Lids available here: http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/Lid-for-Sterno-Inferno-Pot.php

TexasBob
04-02-2021, 10:32
I have "baked" muffin mix in a freezer bag in a pot of boiling water before. I mixed up some muffin mix that only needed water in a freezer bag, sealed the bag and placed it in a pot of boiling water. The mix cooked, tasted OK but after doing it a few times I stopped. I decided it wasn't worth the time it took, the fuel used or the hassle.

zelph
04-02-2021, 10:38
Thanks for doing those baking experiments TexasBob:)

My test this morning with the Fancee Feest and Sterno Inferno pot told me there is insufficient air getting to the stove to operate correctly. Gives off a very pungent odor, fuel is not igniting properly. And so it goes for stove science :D

Time Zone
04-02-2021, 12:15
I see a bunch of these different breakfast and dessert items in a cup, just add water and microwave one minute. They are individually packaged, very lightweight, and apparently taste good. Just wondering if anybody has found a way to make them work on trail? They call for microwaving at home, ....


I'd strongly encourage you to try them at home first - and more than once. I bought a few last year, thinking, "what a great and convenient invention!" The first one was decent, OK, kind of a little different, but it was microwaved and .... By the 3rd one, I really hated them and resolved not to buy any more. They just don't taste quite right, to me. I can't explain further. Just make sure you like them before committing.

zelph
04-02-2021, 12:44
Hello JPritch (https://whiteblaze.net/forum/member.php/66544-JPritch) , what do you think of the replies so far?

Slo-go'en
04-02-2021, 16:55
I just bought one to try. After reading the instructions, I don't think just adding hot water will work. It only requires two tablespoons of water, just enough to turn it into a paste. I suppose you could eat that way, but...

To be any good it really need to be baked. The method Zelph illustrates will work. I used a donut cutter for steam baking, but due to it's small size, it was more work (time) then it was worth. The hollow cone of the donut cutter or angle food cake mold helps ensure an even bake. If you try this is in say just a smaller can which fits into your pot, the center will not cook properly.

JNI64
04-02-2021, 17:22
I see a bunch of these different breakfast and dessert items in a cup, just add water and microwave one minute. They are individually packaged, very lightweight, and apparently taste good. Just wondering if anybody has found a way to make them work on trail? They call for microwaving at home, so I'm not sure if adding boiling water and holding over your stove would work or not, or perhaps cooking it in your pot.

Examples: https://www.target.com/p/kodiak-cakes-chocolate-chip-minute-muffin/-/A-54516540?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&fndsrc=tmnv&DFA=71700000081359181&CPNG=PLA_DVM%2B0060H00000vkh73QAA-Kodiak__Google+Search_Annual+Flight&adgroup=PLA_Kodiak+Cakes&LID=700000001393753pgs&network=g&device=c&location=9008908&gclid=CjwKCAjw3pWDBhB3EiwAV1c5rFue_68oSNpFm50sr2d4 UmJdblKIxHhmK_kgZVkp2Gy2-GxOrzMnYxoCd2IQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.amazon.com/Quaker-Jemima-Pancake-Variety-Individual/dp/B07R37TB9K/ref=asc_df_B07R37TB9K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459693950627&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17130180912391050197&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9053011&hvtargid=pla-942125583736&psc=1

Shug has some videos on dry baking on various stoves, have you ever seen any of his videos on this?

Do you like any of the ideas suggested?

JNI64
04-02-2021, 17:28
I just bought one to try. After reading the instructions, I don't think just adding hot water will work. It only requires two tablespoons of water, just enough to turn it into a paste. I suppose you could eat that way, but...

To be any good it really need to be baked. The method Zelph illustrates will work. I used a donut cutter for steam baking, but due to it's small size, it was more work (time) then it was worth. The hollow cone of the donut cutter or angle food cake mold helps ensure an even bake. If you try this is in say just a smaller can which fits into your pot, the center will not cook properly.

What about bonnack bread style :-? ?

You would need a small fire , but if it's that pasty you could remove bark from the top of a stick and make a loop or two around it and let it hang out above a fire for a few and baked muffins or pancakes and don't forget the IHOP syrup.

JNI64
04-02-2021, 17:33
Bannock bread I mean and I could do this on my little twig stove.

Slo-go'en
04-02-2021, 19:50
What about bonnack bread style :-? ?

You would need a small fire , but if it's that pasty you could remove bark from the top of a stick and make a loop or two around it and let it hang out above a fire for a few and baked muffins or pancakes and don't forget the IHOP syrup.

That might work. Might be sticky enough not to fall into the fire.

IHOP syrup?

If I bring any syrup, it comes the the trees down the street and made in my friends Sugar house :)

JPritch
04-06-2021, 09:58
Great conversation and ideas guys! Looks like placing a pan within a pan of boiling water is the way to go. Can't wait to give some of these a try. I don't mind the extra carry for shorter trips. Someone this past weekend out in Shenandoah was cooking an omelet in a small frying pan over a fire. Got me thinking hard about that too!

atraildreamer
04-06-2021, 10:05
Zelph, have you tried using an Empty Fancy Feast can as a muffin baking pan? :-? I heard that you have a few empty cans lying around. :rolleyes: :D

jimqpublic
04-06-2021, 10:31
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I use these large silicone cupcake cups. One fits just fine in a narrow 800ml jet boil or wide 450 ml Toaks pot. I space it off the bottom with a bent piece of aluminum wire. With the solo Jetboil it uses about 3 grams of fuel to simmer for 14 minutes. I buy various “just add water cupcake and muffin mixes.


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CalebJ
04-06-2021, 10:39
What pot are you using in the photo above with three silicone cups?

jimqpublic
04-06-2021, 19:35
What pot are you using in the photo above with three silicone cups?
It's the Jetboil 1.5 liter pot (the current model is a bit different). Diameter is 6.5". Silicone cups are 2.5" at base, 3.5" at top.

I think I bought them from https://www.packitgourmet.com/BakingKit.html
The silicone "trivet" is very heavy. I cut a bunch of extra holes and it was still heavy. I made a few substitutes from pie pans. For just one cup in a narrow pot I made a trivet from a piece of aluminum wire. An upside-down catfood can with some holes cut out works too.

zelph
04-06-2021, 21:09
Zelph, have you tried using an Empty Fancy Feast can as a muffin baking pan? :-? I heard that you have a few empty cans lying around. :rolleyes: :D

Never tried that because I need BIG muffins. I no longer have any empty cans, all have been converted to stoves for the summer months. Only time will tell if I will make any more.

zelph
04-06-2021, 21:21
When we go car camping, use big pans and steam for big treats. Lots of pages to read in the thread on my website.

http://bplite.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=523&sid=213b1c87d24fe171f5f4cd8ed56a38c0&start=10

illabelle
04-07-2021, 11:10
I typically carry a small frying pan, which I use for frying and "baking," which is just pancake-style cooking. I've used cornbread mix and muffin mix. I bring some stick margarine, and a small spatula. Yum yum.

jimqpublic
04-07-2021, 11:22
We found our favorite, readily available mix for steam-baked muffins was the Betty Crocker Just Add Water Chocolate Chip Muffin Mix. Cornbreads were good but dry if you don't have a lot of butter and honey. Some of the hearty pancake mixes are good too.

If you're prepping at home just use a recipe or box mix and replace wet ingredients with dry. Instead of oil use 33% more (by weight) Hoosier Hill Farms Real Butter Powder. This is actual butter and contains 72% butterfat by weight. I don't have great success with powdered eggs so I would skip eggs. The butter powder and powdered milk add a lot of protein and the consistency seems ok.

To top cornbread or pancakes... Use more Hoosier Hill Farms Real Butter Powder. Mix with (real) maple sugar or (real) powdered honey. Hoosier Hill makes that too.

My kids and I decided that we could skip the muffins and just eat the maple butter...

Remember, It's all about the CALORIES! Powdered butter is backpacking superfood.

atraildreamer
04-07-2021, 11:30
I typically carry a small frying pan, which I use for frying and "baking," which is just pancake-style cooking. I've used cornbread mix and muffin mix. I bring some stick margarine, and a small spatula. Yum yum.

IMUSA has some small, lightweight cookware that is good for backpack cooking. Look in the ethnic foods sections of grocery stores, or:

https://www.target.com/p/imusa-mini-egg-pan-with-handle/-/A-46976682?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=bing_pla_df&fndsrc=tgtao&DFA=71700000012733995&CPNG=PLA_Kitchen%2BShopping%7CKitchen_Ecomm_Home&adgroup=SC_Kitchen&LID=700000001230728&LNM=PRODUCT_GROUP&network=s&device=c&location=&targetid=pla-4585032210965318&ds_rl=1246978&ds_rl=1248099&ds_rl=1247068&msclkid=2fefcc852cc41346a38cace8e3458d24&gclid=2fefcc852cc41346a38cace8e3458d24&gclsrc=3p.ds

zelph
05-28-2021, 18:48
Shug has some videos on dry baking on various stoves, have you ever seen any of his videos on this?

Do you like any of the ideas suggested?

His ideas work really well. I use the small bundt type pan shown in his video along with the Fancee Feest stove.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=42nCgENAmeA