View Full Version : exact right waterproofer for epic fabric?
mweinstone
08-07-2006, 18:27
anyone who knows the exact right re treatment for a black diamond winter bivi made of epic fabric gets five bucks mailed to them . im so hard up for info. i called bd and they said its a nikiwax product but its not. whats that crap dr2?
help or die
Dances with Mice
08-07-2006, 19:00
anyone who knows the exact right re treatment for a black diamond winter bivi made of epic fabric gets five bucks mailed to them . im so hard up for info. i called bd and they said its a nikiwax product but its not. whats that crap dr2?Epic (http://www.nextec.com/thetech/)is a silicone impregnated fabric. Silicone caulk thinned with mineral spirits (http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/support/seam.asp)would be the seam sealer of choice.
mweinstone
08-07-2006, 19:12
the seams are sealed. i need to re treat the fabric with a spray or wash.
what you thinkin?
the seams are sealed. i need to re treat the fabric with a spray or wash.
what you thinkin?
you shouldn't need to re treat sil. impregnated fabric. is it leaking?
mweinstone
08-07-2006, 21:15
im useing a winter bivi made by black diamond. its made of EPIC fabric.it is an unhooped envelope with a zipper opening. its seams were sealed with seam sealer. they are fine. the bivi sac is four years old and it is not as water resistant as it used to be. if you pour water on it it beads. if you wait longer, it soaks thru. i know how good it can be and its not up to snuff. black diamond said i must re coat the fabric with a spray. what spray is the question.
mweinstone
08-07-2006, 21:18
they said they THINK its a nikiwax product but they were wrong. they also said that the right spray will say its for EPIC.
Skidsteer
08-07-2006, 21:23
im useing a winter bivi made by black diamond. its made of EPIC fabric.it is an unhooped envelope with a zipper opening. its seams were sealed with seam sealer. they are fine. the bivi sac is four years old and it is not as water resistant as it used to be. if you pour water on it it beads. if you wait longer, it soaks thru. i know how good it can be and its not up to snuff. black diamond said i must re coat the fabric with a spray. what spray is the question.
Try a common silicone spray (http://workingperson.com/products/85_101/1/983/Waterproofing_Stain_Repellent_and_Scent_Free_Silic one_Spray.html) on a small(very small) section of fabric to see if it performs.
mweinstone
08-07-2006, 21:58
huh?
thats the stuff im lookin for i think.
Epic (http://www.nextec.com/thetech/)is a silicone impregnated fabric. Silicone caulk thinned with mineral spirits (http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/support/seam.asp)would be the seam sealer of choice.
Thanks for that great link, DWM. Just the ticket for me right now!
From Nextec's website...
http://www.nextec.com/thetech/care.php
They don't recommend treating it with any product. Instead, washing it is the way to get it back up to snuff.
Also, EPIC isn't a waterproof fabric but a water repellant one... it won't keep water out forever.
mweinstone
08-08-2006, 15:50
good link guy.so i washed it lots of times in washers. its lable says to. so now i know i need to buy a new one. thank you mother dances for giving birth to you!