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Bewildered
11-30-2007, 11:23
I am looking for anyone that has some good insight on web site development and web domain hosting. I am doing another thru hike this coming may (on the PCT this time) and would like to keep a site a bit more personalized then just a trailjournals.com site.
I am willing to spend money for the site so long as I can edit and upload w/o have to use MS Front Page.
Any feed back would help.
Peace, love, & Johnny Cash
StarLyte
11-30-2007, 11:32
Sly will probably drop his head in here.....
www.godaddy.com
www.networksolutions.com
Good luck to you.
I second GoDaddy. I host all of my sites with them and have had no issues over the past 5 years.
RITBlake
11-30-2007, 12:48
I am looking for anyone that has some good insight on web site development and web domain hosting. I am doing another thru hike this coming may (on the PCT this time)
Hey Bewildered,
It's Super-T, MEGA 05, let me know if I can help, I currently work in IT/New Media and could def. help you out. I saw your email about the trip, I'm jealous man, so jealous.
Johnny Swank
11-30-2007, 13:57
I 3rd (4th) Godaddy. Put a Wordpress site on there and you can do anything you want to from the trail. I'm almost done with completely porting over out website to using Wordpress, and wish I'd done it years ago.
Rain Man
11-30-2007, 14:02
I don't know about godaddy, so can't comment one way or the other. However, I do use WestHost.com and love the fact that I often get the same (American) tech guy when I call with a question. Not to mention I consider them inexpensive.
Rain:sunMan
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Here's my complaint with GoDaddy: the inexpensive packages don't give you command-line access to the server. That makes it very difficult (or impossible) to do certain installation operations if you're using client-side programs like PHP (or programs that run under PHP.) FWIW, I use phpwebhosting.com, and command line access seems to be no problem for them...
Captain Blue
11-30-2007, 15:21
Jumpline at: http://www.jumpline.com/
I have been a customer for many years. Sale going on now. Free domain registration when opening an account.
Uncle Silly
11-30-2007, 15:22
Why not consider hosting with Whiteblaze? Assuming they're still offering this service. If you're not going to be super high traffic, they might be ideal. PM ATTroll if he or Sgt Rock doesn't spot this thread.
Tipi Walter
11-30-2007, 15:38
I have a question. If all of my stuff's on Trail Journals, text and pictures, and I decided to set up my own site, can I duplicate what's already been posted on TJs into my new site with a few additions(not lifted directly, just retyped/reposted)? In effect, I'd have two sites with the same info on each . . . Thanks.
OR, if TJs ever went bust, could I start over again with my own site using my stored archive of trips, etc?
Sure, you can post your stuff anywhere you want to.
Anything stored or archived on your computer, you can put in a page.
GoDaddy is the way to go as well, but if you decide on a 'name', but it IMMEDIATELY, if you type it in , and go back in a half hour - BEWARE - it most possibly will by gone by folks with bots who "kite" names, GoDaddy is the worst for this.
Checkout this site;
http://postholer.com/
It is PCT specific, and quite cool! Free too.
Tipi Walter
12-02-2007, 14:24
Sure, you can post your stuff anywhere you want to.
Anything stored or archived on your computer, you can put in a page.
GoDaddy is the way to go as well, but if you decide on a 'name', but it IMMEDIATELY, if you type it in , and go back in a half hour - BEWARE - it most possibly will by gone by folks with bots who "kite" names, GoDaddy is the worst for this.
Could you repeat the last sentence?
I've used these guys for 7 or 8 years.
No surprises.
A simple FTP site is hosted at $5.95 per month. Not sure if that is still a good deal these days. They used to be among the cheapest.
http://www.pair.com/services/web_hosting/
I just checked out go daddy.
Looks like I have been getting hosed.
Uncle Silly
12-02-2007, 18:39
I have a question. If all of my stuff's on Trail Journals, text and pictures, and I decided to set up my own site, can I duplicate what's already been posted on TJs into my new site with a few additions(not lifted directly, just retyped/reposted)? In effect, I'd have two sites with the same info on each . . . Thanks.
You own the copyright on anything you write, and any pictures you take, without any need to register that. But TrailJournals has a terms of service, which you've agreed to when you created your account. In those terms of service, TrailJournals may claim copyright over anything you publish on their site. TrailJournals itself has copyright over the look of its site.
It doesn't look like TrailJournals' terms currently makes any copyright claim over your postings, so you're in the clear there. You could repost your journal verbatim if you like. They do reserve the right to change their terms of service, so check back.
I think the only thing they'd really object to is duplicating the look of their site on your new site. As long as it looks different, even if the basic format is the same, you're probably ok.
GoDaddy is the way to go as well, but if you decide on a 'name', but it IMMEDIATELY, if you type it in , and go back in a half hour - BEWARE - it most possibly will by gone by folks with bots who "kite" names, GoDaddy is the worst for this.
Could you repeat the last sentence?
I think "but it immediately" is supposed to read "buy it immediately". What he's describing is a kind of cyber-squatting. Somebody notices you've searched on a domain name, and didn't buy it. So they buy it, thinking that if you want it really bad, you'll pay them more for it.
postholer.com
12-02-2007, 23:57
I am doing another thru hike this coming may (on the PCT this time) and would like to keep a site a bit more personalized then just a trailjournals.com site.
Postholer.Com (http://postholer.com) allows you to embed your journal into your website and have all the powerful postholer features available that other sites don't have; like updating your journal text/photos via email/pockemail/blackberry, whatever.
Here's a journal demo with integrated map:
http://postholer.com/journal/demo.html
Here's info on embeding your journal into your web site:
http://postholer.com/journal/help.php#embed
Once you get your site set up, all you have to do is email your entrys or add/edit your entrys from a web form. No Frontpage, no editors, nothing.
Hope that helps!
-postholer
Rain Man
12-03-2007, 03:48
You own the copyright on anything you write, and any pictures you take, without any need to register that....
Whoa! While you may own the copyright, you can also assuredly give it away, by not posting the required copyright symbol and date and "all rights reserved." So there's a big "rest of the story" to what you said.
Rain:sunMan
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Uncle Silly
12-03-2007, 09:40
Whoa! While you may own the copyright, you can also assuredly give it away, by not posting the required copyright symbol and date and "all rights reserved." So there's a big "rest of the story" to what you said.
Copyright is a very complicated subject, yes, but otherwise this is false. You've just given one of the standard myths about copyright (http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html). The copyright symbol and date and "all rights reserved" are NOT necessary to create or preserve your copyright. (They do strengthen the protections of the law, so it's not a bad thing to have.)
In most cases, a copyright owner must be very explicit to give away a copyright. As a copyright owner, you can place your creation in the public domain, essentially abandoning all rights, but you must state this in writing somewhere.
Similarly, terms-of-service contracts may contain language to the effect that copyrights are transferred from one party to the other. (Whiteblaze's own terms (http://whiteblaze.net/index.php?page=agreement) include the statement "Posts become the copyright property of WhiteBlaze. Please don’t use them elsewhere. Please don’t post items here that are copyrighted elsewhere.") Whether this actually transfers the copyrights may be up for debate.
To sum up: Copyright is complicated. Very complicated. If you have copyright questions, do the research to find your answers, or talk to a lawyer specializing in such things. There are lots of good resources online.
Sly will probably drop his head in here.....
You called? :D I'm lazy and would just use Postholer from the trail. Once I got back I'd consider of doing my own website/domain.
SGT Rock
12-03-2007, 11:26
Postholer.Com (http://postholer.com) allows you to embed your journal into your website and have all the powerful postholer features available that other sites don't have; like updating your journal text/photos via email/pockemail/blackberry, whatever.
Here's a journal demo with integrated map:
http://postholer.com/journal/demo.html
Here's info on embeding your journal into your web site:
http://postholer.com/journal/help.php#embed
Once you get your site set up, all you have to do is email your entrys or add/edit your entrys from a web form. No Frontpage, no editors, nothing.
Hope that helps!
-postholer
Do you have any examples yet of how an embeded journal looks?
postholer.com
12-03-2007, 19:41
Do you have any examples yet of how an embeded journal looks?
You bet! The following 2 examples live at another web site.
A simple web page with some CSS styling:
http://axioms.org/styleJournal.php?entry_id=107
And a no frills, bare bones example:
http://axioms.org/basicJournal.php?entry_id=107
The most simple approach would to be modify one of the above to match your website, adding banners, nav-links, whatever. If you have an understanding of html, css or php, just start from scratch.
And it's not like your left in a vacuum. If you any questions, post your questions at this location (http://postholer.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12). They will be answered.
-postholer
Bewildered
12-05-2007, 12:29
Thanks for the feed back folks. So what to do next: I like the simplicity of postholer.com, and it seams more visually "cleaner" then TJ.com (not much clutter going on). But I might try to go for a site like maine2georgia.com(my 05 SOBO buddies) it seams more personal and maybe more freedom... I don't know.
Any more input?
Peace, love, & Johnny Cash
Bewildered
12-05-2007, 12:34
You bet! The following 2 examples live at another web site.
A simple web page with some CSS styling:
http://axioms.org/styleJournal.php?entry_id=107
And a no frills, bare bones example:
http://axioms.org/basicJournal.php?entry_id=107
sorry to sound 'out of it', but what is the differance with these two. all i can see is the way the photo is set and thats about it.
Uncle Silly
12-05-2007, 12:37
There's certainly more freedom in running your own site, at the cost of putting in the work to design, setup, and maintain it. If putting in that time isn't your idea of fun, let TJ or Postholer do it for you and put your time into the writing, or photos, or whatever you do find fun.
Uncle Silly
12-05-2007, 12:44
sorry to sound 'out of it', but what is the differance with these two. all i can see is the way the photo is set and thats about it.
What browser are you using? Try loading them in a different one. I'm using latest Firefox, and the layout differences are immediately obvious.