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[WhiteBlaze]

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[Bulldawg]

This should be interesting.............

[dessertrat]

The thru-hiking year after that movie comes out will be known as "The Year" for the rest of AT history. It will be like the starting line of the Boston Marathon, or the scene in Jaws where the guys are all out in crazy boats trying to catch the shark.

[Bulldawg]

Do you think it will ruin the trail? I mean at least where I live in Northeast Georgia, everybody knows at least the trail is there. Do you think there are really that many people out there who don't know this thing exists and after seeing the movie will say "Hey, I'm gonna quit my job and go do this thing!"?

[dessertrat]

Assuming some of them have jobs, John?

If you look at the numbers, it looks like Bryson's book actually influenced a large number of people to do so-- I think a movie with some great scenery, a funny cast, etc., would create bedlam at least in the traditional thru-hiking season following the movie's release.

On the other hand, how much fun would it be to watch from the sidelines, or to buy expensive gear on the cheap from people quitting?

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

People know the trail is there, but the idea of mainstream people hiking it isn't mainstream. Only us crazy hikers do that :D

Most people I know aren't hikers - they can't wrap their minds around the idea of living in the woods for days on end. They think there is a bear around every corner waiting to steal your food and that rattlesnakes and copperheads lay in wait for hikers. They think it is impossible to stay relatively clean and that we freeze to death every night. They think we live on beef jerky and instant breakfast bars. They also think we carry 50 to 60 lbs each. It's little wonder they aren't chomping at the bit to get out there.

If the movie brings out all of the services available to AT hikers and the relative lack of remoteness of the AT, it may well increase the traffic as people will realize the AT just isn't all that hard a trail to tackle.

[Colter]

I don't think it will ruin the trail, but I agree about the film boosting the number of AT hikers. There are tons of people who don't read (and so haven't already read the book) and who aren't familiar with the trail who will be all excited about hiking the AT.

[Bulldawg]

Yeah, I didn't think of it from that side of the deal. But I do like the idea of sitting in Winton's parking lot and buying expensive gear for pennies on the dollar after those folks bail out. I might would station my wife over at Woody Gap to make the cheap buys too!!!:D:D

I guess we'll just have to see what pans out.

[dessertrat]

I think the screenplay will need substantial "adapting" from the book. The book is funny, but to make the movie funny, it will need some changes.

I'll guarantee you that they have a bear scene of some sort in it, with a bear doing something peculiarly unbearlike.

[RITBlake]

well guys it was fun while it lasted

[Almost There]

You guys are all being Eeyors!!! Doom and gloom. Remember there are alot of people who will see the movie, but the thought of being out for months, or quitting their jobs and giving up their creature comforts...C'mon, you might see a rise, but many will figure out by Neels Gap that it isn't for them. Most of the trail won't see any spikes. You might see more dayhikers, but isn't awareness of trail issues a good thing? Decide what you want, you can't have it all.

[Bulldawg]

You guys are all being Eeyors!!! Doom and gloom. Remember there are alot of people who will see the movie, but the thought of being out for months, or quitting their jobs and giving up their creature comforts...C'mon, you might see a rise, but many will figure out by Neels Gap that it isn't for them. Most of the trail won't see any spikes. You might see more dayhikers, but isn't awareness of trail issues a good thing? Decide what you want, you can't have it all.

Maybe a lot of people will see it and decide since they've already seen it all in the movie, there is no need to actually go out and do it in person?

[Footslogger]

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They've asked me to play Newman's role but I'd have to shave my beard. I told them I'd rather be an "extra"

'Slogger

[double d]

Most Americans don't read more then whats in their supermarket checkout line, but Americans do watch movies in large numbers and Robert Redford is well known, so hike your hike before "they" come!!!

[warraghiyagey]

While I may increase the number of 'starters' I doubt it will greatly affect the number of 'finishers.' Surely there will be an increase of day, weekend and section hikers for a spell. Probably the first season after the movie, then the numbers will dwindle again.

[briarpatch]

....... but many will figure out by Neels Gap that it isn't for them. Most of the trail won't see any spikes. . . . .

The challenge that we (the GATC) have to prepare for is what happens before Neels Gap. We could always use more volunteers.

Of course, it might pay to set up a stand just past Sasafrass and offer to shuttle wannabe hikers back to Dahlonega in exchange for their gear ;).

[Bulldawg]

The challenge that we (the GATC) have to prepare for is what happens before Neels Gap. We could always use more volunteers.

Of course, it might pay to set up a stand just past Sasafrass and offer to shuttle wannabe hikers back to Dahlonega in exchange for their gear ;).

What a great idea!! Contact me about becoming a member of the GATC please sir?

[Almost There]

The challenge that we (the GATC) have to prepare for is what happens before Neels Gap. We could always use more volunteers.

Of course, it might pay to set up a stand just past Sasafrass and offer to shuttle wannabe hikers back to Dahlonega in exchange for their gear ;).


I agree to a point, hopefully he'll hike the approach trail in the movie and it will get people to quit by the Springer Parking Lot!!!:eek:

[Lone Wolf]

Do you think it will ruin the trail? I mean at least where I live in Northeast Georgia, everybody knows at least the trail is there. Do you think there are really that many people out there who don't know this thing exists and after seeing the movie will say "Hey, I'm gonna quit my job and go do this thing!"?

it's pretty much ruined as it is. just build more shelters. a movie ain't gonna hurt it any more

[Miss Janet]

Yeah, I didn't think of it from that side of the deal. But I do like the idea of sitting in Winton's parking lot and buying expensive gear for pennies on the dollar after those folks bail out. I might would station my wife over at Woody Gap to make the cheap buys too!!!:D:D

I guess we'll just have to see what pans out.


You guys are all being Eeyors!!! Doom and gloom. Remember there are alot of people who will see the movie, but the thought of being out for months, or quitting their jobs and giving up their creature comforts...C'mon, you might see a rise, but many will figure out by Neels Gap that it isn't for them. Most of the trail won't see any spikes. You might see more dayhikers, but isn't awareness of trail issues a good thing? Decide what you want, you can't have it all.


While I may increase the number of 'starters' I doubt it will greatly affect the number of 'finishers.' Surely there will be an increase of day, weekend and section hikers for a spell. Probably the first season after the movie, then the numbers will dwindle again.


MOST people that begin the AT as a Thruhike don't finish. But a lot more than you think make it a lot farther than you think. The "hoards" of unprepared hikers quitting before Neels Gap is just not true. Sure some do, some never make it Neels Gap but over 80% of those that start make it to Erwin every year. Funny thing is... a lot of those that went home were experienced and well prepared and some that make it were poster children for who SHOULDN"T have made it! I am convinced that attitude, luck and heart are the really big factors in long distance hiking.

Most of the class of 2008 will be new to this even if they are very prepared. All the gear and knowledge in the world will not get you up the trail. I believe the numbers will go up after the film is made... maybe a huge jump in the years after the movie come out but I think that they will be as well prepared as most of those starting this year will be.

Besides, the world will see the movie, go home and GOOGLE "Hiking the Appalachian Trail" and they will find Whiteblaze and you all will tell them everything there is to know and they will all be experts when they start! There will be hikers finishing the whole trail in big numbers! Plus the thousands that will take up hiking as a new activity.

That means I need to plan at least twice as many Yurts for the Erwin Hiking Center!!

[Pedaling Fool]

Mountain Crossing at neels gap will make more money.

[Nearly Normal]

Sure would be funny if they shot it during the peak thru season.
Real hikers told they can't hike or camp where ever. I'd like to see that.

They probably won't use very much of the AT, only where they can drive to it and park all kinds of trailers.

[RITBlake]

Somewhere out there the CEO of Eastern Mountain Sports (EMS) is smiling.

[warraghiyagey]

It would be funny to see the miles of film on the cutting room floor of random hikers walking through the set smiling at the camera, or spittin, fartin, brushing teeth, stokin the campfire, hanging dirty wet socks, etc.

[Pedaling Fool]

...
On the other hand, how much fun would it be to watch from the sidelines, or to buy expensive gear on the cheap from people quitting?
Better yet, just go pick it up off the side of the trail:D

[Skidsteer]

It will definitely increase Whiteblaze.net traffic, IMO.

[Rain Man]

If they include a FRACTION of the educational environmental stuff that Bryson crammed into that book, then it may be a movie of a lifetime.

Rain:sunMan

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[Lilred]

Doesn't anybody remember the book?? Bryson did not paint a pretty picture of hiking. If that is conveyed in the movie, the bears, the hardship, the 'deliverance' type of trail town, the numbers may actually drop.

[refreeman]

it's pretty much ruined as it is. just build more shelters. a movie ain't gonna hurt it any more

what a crock o' *hit :D

[Kirby]

It was a good book, I found it humorous, should be a funny film if they adapt it correctly.

Kirby

[Pedaling Fool]

Doesn't anybody remember the book?? Bryson did not paint a pretty picture of hiking. If that is conveyed in the movie, the bears, the hardship, the 'deliverance' type of trail town, the numbers may actually drop.
I think they'll do it in a very humorous way, or at least that'll be the attempt, won't be serious at all. Like most movies there's always great variation from the book.

[Miss Janet]

Doesn't anybody remember the book?? Bryson did not paint a pretty picture of hiking. If that is conveyed in the movie, the bears, the hardship, the 'deliverance' type of trail town, the numbers may actually drop.

Remember how many new people started getting on organized climbing trips AFTER large numbers of people died doing the same kind of trip?

I think there will be lots of people that go "bears, snakes, hillbillies, rain, snow, bugs, heavy packs??... COOL!"

[Bulldawg]

t.

They probably won't use very much of the AT, only where they can drive to it and park all kinds of trailers.

You are right. Consider Blood Mountain possibly then. Several films have been made on the road over the mountain and they all used Vogel on the north face as a base of operations.

I worked on the Patrick Swayze movie, Black Dog, that filmed on the mountains here for about 4 weeks, with Vogel as the base. You really can't beat the meals and snacks put out there by craft services on the set of a movie. I don't know how all them actors stay fit. Good eats!! LOL;);)

[RITBlake]

Doesn't anybody remember the book?? Bryson did not paint a pretty picture of hiking. If that is conveyed in the movie, the bears, the hardship, the 'deliverance' type of trail town, the numbers may actually drop.

Wiki:

Since the film's release, more than thirty people have drowned attempting to recreate the canoe trip along the section of the river where the film was shot.

Thirty.

Back to the topic at hand

[warraghiyagey]

Wiki:

Since the film's release, more than thirty people have drowned attempting to recreate the canoe trip along the section of the river where the film was shot.

Thirty.

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[karo]

By comparison, after "A River Runs Through It" came out, Orvis a leading flyfishing equipment company, had sales increase by 400%!!! Will this movie do the same for outfitters, shuttlers, trail towns and the number of thru hike attempts?

[Actuary]

I only section hiked the 100 Mile Wilderness because of Bryson's book. I admit I'd never heard of it before I read it and knew very little about the AT in general. One of the guys attempting a thru-hike I met in Maine told me he only decided to hike it after reading Bryson's book also. A mainstream movie will certainly increase traffic by a substantial amount.

[Bulldawg]

I only section hiked the 100 Mile Wilderness because of Bryson's book. I admit I'd never heard of it before I read it and knew very little about the AT in general. One of the guys attempting a thru-hike I met in Maine told me he only decided to hike it after reading Bryson's book also. A mainstream movie will certainly increase traffic by a substantial amount.


Just great, Lone Wolf, you 'd better get some more shelters built!!:D:D

[Wilson]

Karo beat me to it...I've heard flyfishermen talk about how they enjoyed certain streams before "The Movie".

[Pedaling Fool]

I think I once heard somewhere that most people from overseas, that hike the trail, first learned of the AT through the book.

[halibut15]

Pop Quiz Time:

Bill Bryson is a _____________. :banana

[Miss Janet]

But Robert Redford sure isn't!
I would go see the movie just to see him and I bet there are a lot of women out there... of a certain age... that will agree!!

So, guys,it may be more WOMEN out there after the movie!!

[Bulldawg]

Pop Quiz Time:

Bill Bryson is a _____________. :banana

Nice to see someone close to home on here!!!

[Jan LiteShoe]

But Robert Redford sure isn't!
I would go see the movie just to see him and I bet there are a lot of women out there... of a certain age... that will agree!!

So, guys,it may be more WOMEN out there after the movie!!

Woohoo!
Let's go to the premier, Janet.
I have a boa.
:banana

[peanuts]

count me in:D:D liteshoe and missj....

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

HenMovie - I'm in :D

[Skidsteer]

Brazen hiker chicks. Gotta love 'em. :D

[Lilred]

Remember how many new people started getting on organized climbing trips AFTER large numbers of people died doing the same kind of trip?

I think there will be lots of people that go "bears, snakes, hillbillies, rain, snow, bugs, heavy packs??... COOL!"

Ya, you're probably right. Wishful thinking on my part I guess....

[Lilred]

If Redford does this movie, I'm there!! I won't like what it does to the AT, but I'll be one of the first to go and see it.

[jessicacomp]

But Robert Redford sure isn't!
I would go see the movie just to see him and I bet there are a lot of women out there... of a certain age... that will agree!!

So, guys,it may be more WOMEN out there after the movie!!

Robert Redford is old enough to be my grandfather...and may in fact be the same age as my grandfather. Nonetheless, I have a huge crush on him and have for years... and I agree- I'd go see the movie just for him!

[Smile]

HenMovie - I'm in

Yup. ;)

[Nearly Normal]

Having Jack show up wearing his "Bill Bryson is a candy ass..." shirt would be funny. Really funny if it showed up in the movie.

[jrwiesz]

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They've asked me to play Newman's role but I'd have to shave my beard. I told them I'd rather be an "extra"

'Slogger

Did they have anybody in mind for the, "Mooning the Cog" parts?:D

[Lone Wolf]

Did they have anybody in mind for the, "Mooning the Cog" parts?:D

any 'ol pseudo-hippy lib will do. refreeman

[jrwiesz]

Just great, Lone Wolf, you 'd better get some more shelters built!!:D:D

Naw, I'd be working on getting the "Lemonaide stands" ready.:rolleyes:

There's nickle$ to be made on this one!:banana

[jrwiesz]

Having Jack show up wearing his "Bill Bryson is a candy ass..." shirt would be funny. Really funny if it showed up in the movie.

While he's "mooning the Cog"!:D

[gldwings1]

You guys are all being Eeyors!!! Doom and gloom. Remember there are alot of people who will see the movie, but the thought of being out for months, or quitting their jobs and giving up their creature comforts...C'mon, you might see a rise, but many will figure out by Neels Gap that it isn't for them. Most of the trail won't see any spikes. You might see more dayhikers, but isn't awareness of trail issues a good thing? Decide what you want, you can't have it all.

And also just because someone doesn't live and breathe for the AT and if they decide to hike it after seeing this movie (A VERY BIG IF) who's to say that they won't become stewards of the trail as well. And the AT doesn't belong to only people who hike it, it belongs to everyone. If they are irresponsible and wreck the trail, it is our job, if we truly love and respect it, to maintain it, no matter what. The concept of public lands is just that; land belonging to the public, not land belonging to those who are really cool and know how to live off of the land and have been hiking for 37 yrs and have 400 pairs of boots and live in the woods and etc.....I hate to sound like a grumpy Gus but geez I am a weekend warrior and I deserve to hike it as much as anyone who has thru hiked 14 times and knows the CEO of The North Face and was a Yosemite Backcountry Ranger. Lets just continue to enjoy 2175 miles of the most beautiful country God has put on our planet.

[Bulldawg]

And also just because someone doesn't live and breathe for the AT and if they decide to hike it after seeing this movie (A VERY BIG IF) who's to say that they won't become stewards of the trail as well. And the AT doesn't belong to only people who hike it, it belongs to everyone. If they are irresponsible and wreck the trail, it is our job, if we truly love and respect it, to maintain it, no matter what. The concept of public lands is just that; land belonging to the public, not land belonging to those who are really cool and know how to live off of the land and have been hiking for 37 yrs and have 400 pairs of boots and live in the woods and etc.....I hate to sound like a grumpy Gus but geez I am a weekend warrior and I deserve to hike it as much as anyone who has thru hiked 14 times and knows the CEO of The North Face and was a Yosemite Backcountry Ranger. Lets just continue to enjoy 2175 miles of the most beautiful country God has put on our planet.

Well Said!!

[Tipi Walter]

Let's hope the movie won't be another "Continental Divide" type flick(John Belushi movie). Or another "The Clearing." Phew, barely got thru that one with Redford.

Here's what I want: A remake of Jeremiah Johnson with Redford playing the part of the older mountain man("Is that rabbit cooking on the fire?" Redford: "Why? Grown part-i-cu-lar?").

I'd use someone like Christian Bale to play the Jeremiah part(or anyone who could pull off a full beard and buckskins), and then flesh out the roles with other interesting characters. (Brad Pitt in a full beard and buckskins wouldn't hurt, either--think "Legends of the Fall" in the end battling the big grizzly). Or heck, just get Doug Seus(Bart the Bear fame)to play all the roles.

[Skyline]

Sure would be funny if they shot it during the peak thru season.
Real hikers told they can't hike or camp where ever. I'd like to see that.

They probably won't use very much of the AT, only where they can drive to it and park all kinds of trailers.


In true motion picture economic fashion, they will film most of this on the West Coast or up in Canada and claim it's the East Coast. Significant amounts will be filmed on sound stages. They will come to the AT just to get some "real" flavor into the mix.

I see a huge thread on WB where we all have fun dissecting the film one frame at a time.

[Jan LiteShoe]

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They've asked me to play Newman's role but I'd have to shave my beard. I told them I'd rather be an "extra"

'Slogger

Ha ha! Their loss, baby.
:sun

Now, WHO will play unfavorably-portrayed Mary Jane (or Mary Ellen? Sue Ellen?) the only significant female in the book (and a snot-sniffer at that?).

As a Master (or rather, Mistress) of the Snot Rocket, I am out of contention, although I can whine and boss and cadge Twinkies with the best of them.
:banana

[Jan LiteShoe]

I see a huge thread on WB where we all have fun dissecting the film one frame at a time.

A contendah for 'THE THREAD" status!
:sun

[Pedaling Fool]

In true motion picture economic fashion, they will film most of this on the West Coast or up in Canada and claim it's the East Coast. Significant amounts will be filmed on sound stages. They will come to the AT just to get some "real" flavor into the mix.

I see a huge thread on WB where we all have fun dissecting the film one frame at a time.
This is probably true. I'll admit I'll be one of those looking at every frame. I'm ashamed to say this but I kinda can't wait for the movie to come out.

[cheflovesbeer]

I like the people I meet hiking on the AT for the most part. Not all of them mind you. I hike on it to meet fellow hikers. More does not always mean bad.

[dessertrat]

They'll probably film it on the Pacific Crest Trail and have a grizzly bear in it, while claiming it's on the East Coast.

[dessertrat]

Ha ha! Their loss, baby.
:sun

Now, WHO will play unfavorably-portrayed Mary Jane (or Mary Ellen? Sue Ellen?) the only significant female in the book (and a snot-sniffer at that?).

As a Master (or rather, Mistress) of the Snot Rocket, I am out of contention, although I can whine and boss and cadge Twinkies with the best of them.
:banana

I predict a lawsuit for defamation by Mary Ellen. She'll say that although they changed her name, anyone who knows her knows she does that ear-clearing thing and knows it's her. (Truth is a defense to defamation, however).

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

A contendah for 'THE THREAD" status!
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[Almost There]

Miss Janet was telling me last summer that Redford's film company was making visits up and down the trail and had supposedly even made a large donation to one of the ATC centers along the trail. I have a feeling they'll film it in the east, Redford has always appeared as a friend of conservation. I still think overall it's gonna be a good thing, or a non thing in regards to the trail. Some of you need to stop hanging black crepe already.

[thestin]

Who will play Katz?

[Pedaling Fool]

Miss Janet was telling me last summer that Redford's film company was making visits up and down the trail and had supposedly even made a large donation to one of the ATC centers along the trail. I have a feeling they'll film it in the east, Redford has always appeared as a friend of conservation. I still think overall it's gonna be a good thing, or a non thing in regards to the trail. Some of you need to stop hanging black crepe already.
I stopped at Blackburn AT center during my '06 thru, and the caretakers told us about some producer types doing initial research work for the movie, this was within the past week of my arrival (6-22-06).

[Speer Carrier]

In true motion picture economic fashion, they will film most of this on the West Coast or up in Canada and claim it's the East Coast. Significant amounts will be filmed on sound stages. They will come to the AT just to get some "real" flavor into the mix.

I see a huge thread on WB where we all have fun dissecting the film one frame at a time.


My bet is they film the outside shots in Romania just like they did with Cold Mountain. Much cheaper to film there. And as you say everything else will be filmed in L.A. Maybe a few exterior shots at Amacolola to show the start of the hike.

[Terry7]

After I came thru Max Patch last summer I run into some trail maintainers who said they had just finished repainting and mowing the trail for the movie. I thought It was already Filmed, maybe they where just scouting locations.

[Terry7]

I forgot to say that I never heard of the AT until I read about it in a book. 2 months later I gave up my apartment and boxed up my stuff and hit the trail.

[Jan LiteShoe]

I forgot to say that I never heard of the AT until I read about it in a book. 2 months later I gave up my apartment and boxed up my stuff and hit the trail.


Words are powerful things.
They can ignite all sorts of dry tinder.
:sun

[Heater]

Wiki:

Since the film's release, more than thirty people have drowned attempting to recreate the canoe trip along the section of the river where the film was shot.

Thirty.

Back to the topic at hand

Are we suuuuure they drowned? :-?
Muwahahahahahaha. :bse

[Heater]

Who will play Katz?

Noooorm! From Cheers.

[RITBlake]

I still think overall it's gonna be a good thing, or a non thing in regards to the trail. Some of you need to stop hanging black crepe already.

I think you're underestimating your typical American.

The average American watches an average of 2.5 to 3 hours of television daily. We are very much so a tv/movie orientated culture. People see things on TV and Movies and they are enamored with what they see. How many hours do you think people spend w/ a book? It's a different league.

The importance of the book has not faded but it pales in comparison to the impact a feature film has. Whatever impact the book had in terms of numbers, the movie will have 100x the impact.

My advice would be is if you were planning a thru hike the year this movie comes out, you may want to consider going SOBO because Georgia is going to be an absolute zoo.

[yappy]

robert redford.. yum ! count me in girl friends..:)

[Almost There]

Blake,

I don't underestimate the average American I know him quite well, I teach his children and I can tell you right now that most Americans will have absolutely zero desire to go out and spend days in the forest. That being said I realize that the trail will most likely see a bump in those that start, but America has also become very much a vicarious country, and they enjoy watching rather than doing. You forget you are a doer, most in America, are content to stay home and watch about it, or get out and walk a mile when they cross the trail.

[Lone Wolf]

Georgia is going to be an absolute zoo.

it's already a friggin zoo. has been for years. a movie ain't gonna change it.

[yappy]

I agree wolfster.. yuck .. ga is a complete zoo and sorta spooky these days.

[yappy]

i agree with the wolfster.. ga is kinda spooky these days and a place i avoid except to get hiking.. the movie ain't gonna change that..

[RITBlake]

Blake,

I don't underestimate the average American I know him quite well, I teach his children and I can tell you right now that most Americans will have absolutely zero desire to go out and spend days in the forest. That being said I realize that the trail will most likely see a bump in those that start, but America has also become very much a vicarious country, and they enjoy watching rather than doing. You forget you are a doer, most in America, are content to stay home and watch about it, or get out and walk a mile when they cross the trail.

That's a fair point. I just think the movie will plant the seed in a lot of minds that normally wouldn't have even considered it. College kids, high school kids, people out of work, or in between jobs, retirees and the like will see this movie and might say, hey that's something I might like to try.

[dessertrat]

Then there's the good side: if it does create a lot of crowds on the trail, even the ones who quit will probably have some fond memories of it, and will remain friends with the trail, even if it "wasn't what they expected." Also, some people will simply take to it, in the manner of many who had never hiked much before their thru-hike. That wouldnt' be such a bad thing either.

[RITBlake]

It will have some positive impact I agree. The hostels, especially those down South, will get a nice bump and of course all outfitters along the trail will see more business.

It'd be fun to stop at Mountain Crossings @ Walasi-Yi sometime in early March. They'll be printing money! $$$$$

[Patrickjd9]

well guys it was fun while it lasted
There will probably be a one or two year surge, with a few people staying with the trail for keeps, but we, and the trail, will survive.

Your advice on a SOBO that year is probably good, though. I see from your journal that you're partial to that direction. :)

Besides, they're the taxpayers we've asked to support trail lands, search and rescue, etc. We can only kvetch but so much.

RIT, what brings you to the Bronx? And where? I grew up in Marble Hill (by some arguments Manhattan), but have been gone over 25 years.

I feel lucky to have gotten out with no bullet holes or substance abuse issues (other than carbs) and only mild PSTD.

[Patrickjd9]

..and only mild PSTD.

Perhaps dyslexia as well...I meant PTSD.

[warraghiyagey]

That's a fair point. I just think the movie will plant the seed in a lot of minds that normally wouldn't have even considered it. College kids, high school kids, people out of work, or in between jobs, retirees and the like will see this movie and might say, hey that's something I might like to try.
Isn't this the same group that has been hiking the trail for years??:-?

[swellbill]

. ...They also think we carry 50 to 60 lbs each. It's little wonder they aren't chomping at the bit to get out there....

Hey, you mean my pack should be lighter? Wow! that will be great.

[Mr. Parkay]

All of this talk makes me WANT to hike the trail the year after the movie comes out. Meeting all of the crazy people who decided to hike the AT after watching the movie sounds like a good time. The shelters might be full, but who cares, there are plenty of good camp sites.

Also, I agree with Miss Janets post from a few weeks ago... the hikers who start the trail after watching the movie will probably be just as likely to finish the trail as everyone else

[Footslogger]

Did they have anybody in mind for the, "Mooning the Cog" parts?:D

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I don't think they've gotten that far into the script yet !!

'Slogger

[dessertrat]

I don't think Bryson mentions that in his book at all. It must not have been a tradition in 1997.

[HIKER7s]

I dont think this is good for the trail. IMHO.

[Red Hat]

Gotta agree with the girls, with Redford in it, I'll go see it. He is a sight to behold...but not my idea of a Bryson...

[warraghiyagey]

Gotta agree with the girls, with Redford in it, I'll go see it. He is a sight to behold...but not my idea of a Bryson...
I don't know about that. HE's starting to look like Darth Vaders boss.http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sw022.gif

[rcli4]

I think Warren Doyle would make a fine Bryson and Jack would be a good Katz. Now I would pay to see that.

Clyde

[Tipi Walter]

I think you're underestimating your typical American.

The average American watches an average of 2.5 to 3 hours of television daily. We are very much so a tv/movie orientated culture. People see things on TV and Movies and they are enamored with what they see. How many hours do you think people spend w/ a book? It's a different league.

The importance of the book has not faded but it pales in comparison to the impact a feature film has. Whatever impact the book had in terms of numbers, the movie will have 100x the impact.

My advice would be is if you were planning a thru hike the year this movie comes out, you may want to consider going SOBO because Georgia is going to be an absolute zoo.


Blake,

I don't underestimate the average American I know him quite well, I teach his children and I can tell you right now that most Americans will have absolutely zero desire to go out and spend days in the forest. That being said I realize that the trail will most likely see a bump in those that start, but America has also become very much a vicarious country, and they enjoy watching rather than doing. You forget you are a doer, most in America, are content to stay home and watch about it, or get out and walk a mile when they cross the trail.

A CASE FOR TELEVISION
Probably the best thing ever to happen to backpackers and backpacking is the invention of the TV and the later increase of channels thru cable and dish and the DVD market. It created a whole generation of couch potatoes addicted to the flat screen thereby leaving more of the outdoors to me. Add the computer to the mix and we've pulled an even larger portion of once-active backpackers into the Rabbit's Hole.

I owe my backpacking career and my years of stealth camping and solitary recent trips to the TV and computer. And what of the Wheeled Tourists, that misguided bunch who won't explore a place unless rolling? They are the final insult, the last flagrant example of the couch potato at his highest evolutionarly level. 'Let's see the wilderness forest but don't make us get out and walk."

Sitting on constantly warmed and squashed buns, breathing heavily just to shift gears and when applying the brakes, this group, with total disregard for their own safety, showing a courageous recklessness by leaving their TVs and computers, actually manage to walk to their cars and plop down on another couch, this time moving, but thereby never disturbing MY wilderness experience and solitude.

If it wasn't for these various iron lungs called "couches", 300 million Americans would be, out of sheer boredom verging on suicidal, invading my natural sanctuary and peaceful solitude. If anything, this movie will only make people cut more roads and pave more fields to reach the AT so as to attain that "wilderness experience", i.e. a few nights out in or next to a shelter.

[Jack Tarlin]

That's pretty damned funny in a horrifying sorta way.

[Jan LiteShoe]

I think Warren Doyle would make a fine Bryson and Jack would be a good Katz. Now I would pay to see that.

Clyde

ha! Now that was funny!
:sun

[Skidsteer]

ha! Now that was funny!
:sun

It'd be the shortest horror movie in film history. :D

[Jan LiteShoe]

It'd be the shortest horror movie in film history. :D

Hey Skids, you wanna come with Yappy and the girls to the premier?
:sun
Boas are cheap:
http://www.partymart.com/home.asp?id=162&idcatnav=49

[RITBlake]

Gotta agree with the girls, with Redford in it, I'll go see it. He is a sight to behold...but not my idea of a Bryson...

oh yah, he's dreamy

http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/r/robert_redford/thumbnails/tn2_robert_redford_3.jpg

[jesse]

AS far as the crowds coming to the trail, as long as they pack out their trash, everything will be ok.
We have a theater here that plays movies a few months after they come out, just before it is released on dvd. $.75 on tuesdays. I can wait.

[Skidsteer]

Hey Skids, you wanna come with Yappy and the girls to the premier?
:sun
Boas are cheap:
http://www.partymart.com/home.asp?id=162&idcatnav=49

Depends what state. Maybe I'll get my freak on. ;)

FD, restrain yourself!

[Tinker]

There will be lots of food in the hiker boxes in Georgia!!!!! :)

[Hooch]

And also just because someone doesn't live and breathe for the AT and if they decide to hike it after seeing this movie (A VERY BIG IF) who's to say that they won't become stewards of the trail as well. And the AT doesn't belong to only people who hike it, it belongs to everyone. If they are irresponsible and wreck the trail, it is our job, if we truly love and respect it, to maintain it, no matter what. The concept of public lands is just that; land belonging to the public, not land belonging to those who are really cool and know how to live off of the land and have been hiking for 37 yrs and have 400 pairs of boots and live in the woods and etc.....I hate to sound like a grumpy Gus but geez I am a weekend warrior and I deserve to hike it as much as anyone who has thru hiked 14 times and knows the CEO of The North Face and was a Yosemite Backcountry Ranger. Lets just continue to enjoy 2175 miles of the most beautiful country God has put on our planet.


Well Said!!Ditto, my brother! :D

[Hammer and Nails]

I guess we could wait and see what kind of uptick they get in hikers in Alaska this summer now that Into the Wild has come out. Maybe that'll give us an idea as to how many will come to the AT?

[HIKER7s]

it's already a friggin zoo. has been for years. a movie ain't gonna change it.


No it wont, just enlarge the circus.

[HIKER7s]

I don't know about that. HE's starting to look like Darth Vaders boss.http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sw022.gif


ROFLAO!!!!! I was thinking he was looking pretty rough these days

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

I think Warren Doyle would make a fine Bryson and Jack would be a good Katz. Now I would pay to see that.

Hey Skids, you wanna come with Yappy and the girls to the premier?:sun Boas are cheap:
http://www.partymart.com/home.asp?id=162&idcatnav=49
Depends what state. Maybe I'll get my freak on. ;)..... FD, restrain yourself! ::: Dino seen rushing to photoshop with all of this in mind :D :::

[freefall]

Hey Skids, you wanna come with Yappy and the girls to the premier?
:sun
Boas are cheap:
http://www.partymart.com/home.asp?id=162&idcatnav=49



Besides, the world will see the movie, go home and GOOGLE "Hiking the Appalachian Trail" and they will find Whiteblaze and you all will tell them everything there is to know and they will all be experts when they start!

Egads- just let Jack and Warren answer all their questions, they'll never attempt the Trail then! To avoid the pessimism alone would cost around 10 grand and even then they'd be ridiculed. That would be enough to keep most of the ne'er do wells away.

There will be hikers finishing the whole trail in big numbers! Plus the thousands that will take up hiking as a new activity.Yeah, but just like they did Starbucks, they'll move on quickly to something else that is trendy and not require so much exertion.

[freefall]

Egads- just let Jack and Warren answer all their questions, they'll never attempt the Trail then! To avoid the pessimism alone would cost around 10 grand and even then they'd be ridiculed. That would be enough to keep most of the ne'er do wells away.
Yeah, but just like they did Starbucks, they'll move on quickly to something else that is trendy and not require so much exertion.
Guess I need to re-up on my dues- that first quote wasn't supposed to be there!

[JDCool1]

The Positive side
There appears to be quite a concern about the possibility of a movie version of Bryson's "A Walk in theWoods," which I also share. Most of the comments express fear of some kind of detrimental effect upon our beloved trail. Yes, it is true that the more something is publicized, the more damaging effect can happen. Take a look at the cliff dwellings of the southwest and the vandalism that occurred following the discovery of those treasures. However, there is also a positive viewpoint. As more people become aware of this treasure we call the AT, the more there may be a desire to protect it from all kinds of encroachments, land development, energy development, ie. windmills, mining, etc. One thing I have noticed, many people will see it for its great scenic beauty and "Hike" on it through seeing the movie, reading the many books, and browsing the journals of those who actually do it. More people do adventures vicariously than by otherwise. They prefer the comfort of the Holiday Inn over that of a three sided shelter or even worse a pad on the ground. The more who are exposed the more allies we have to defend and protect our sacred trail.

See you in the Spring

[MuddyBugger]

Thankfully I had decided recently to do it SOBO 2009 if I hadn't I probably would have after this.....For the most part all I can hope is that the optimist here are right, I'm one, but I also know the reality of situations sometimes. The more people you have using the higher the incident of some of those people being the wrong "type" of people.

Anyone have an idea when it would come out??? 3-4 yrs on average from start of production to actual release..

[Roland]

Do other "Donating Members" have this problem?

When I navigate to "Today's Post" or to "New Posts", threads created in the Appalachian Trail News Today (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=444) forum, do not appear in the list. Typically, I would not have seen this thread. However, in the past few days, this thread, and others in this forum, have appeared in "Today's Post" and "New Posts".

This morning, I noticed that the "Members area" button was missing on my toolbar. Wondering if my annual subscription had expired, I went looking for the "Donating Members" list, to check the status of my account. The "Donating Members" list was not visible to me.

Deducing that my membership had indeed expired, I renewed my subscription to WhiteBlaze. Doing so restored the "Members area" button on my toolbar, as well as restored access to the "Donating Members" list. However, threads in Appalachian Trail News Today (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=444) no longer appear in "Today's Posts" or in "New Posts".

If I navigate to "Forums", I can select and view this thread. Access is not denied. However, now that I have renewed my subscription, this thread, and others in this forum, no longer appear as "New Posts" or "Today's Posts". I have also noticed that if I browse to WhiteBlaze, and DO NOT log-on, I can see threads created in this forum. Upon log-on, they are no longer visible, as described.

If you are a donating member, does this thread appear on your "New Posts" list? Does anyone have any idea how I can resolve this glitch?

Thanks,

[Skidsteer]

I just got here by via "New threads".

I don't ever recall having a problem not seeing threads generated by Whiteblaze. :confused:

[Roland]

I just got here by via "New threads".

I don't ever recall having a problem not seeing threads generated by Whiteblaze. :confused:

Thanks for your reply, Skids. I'm happy to hear your account is working correctly. It gives me hope for my account. There must be a setting that I'm overlooking.

[fiddlehead]

Sounds easy to me, if you're worried about bigger crowds, just go do the PCT!
Much more scenic!

Lookin forward to the movie but i don't think it's going to put a favorable light on thru-hikers who make it (been a while since i read the book though)

[JAK]

Pacific Coast might be more scenic in some sense, but you have to have to walk a lot further to change the channel. Had a killer sunset here on Sunday night. Only cost a quarter. ;)

As for movies, I thought Last of the Mohicans was very inspirational.
Got me on my feet and out hiking more than once.

[fiddlehead]

Yeah, and a rockin chair is as good as it gets to some too.

[JAK]

Don't knock it. Some folks have very nice views from their front porch.

[Alligator]

Do other "Donating Members" have this problem?

When I navigate to "Today's Post" or to "New Posts", threads created in the Appalachian Trail News Today (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=444) forum, do not appear in the list. Typically, I would not have seen this thread. However, in the past few days, this thread, and others in this forum, have appeared in "Today's Post" and "New Posts".

This morning, I noticed that the "Members area" button was missing on my toolbar. Wondering if my annual subscription had expired, I went looking for the "Donating Members" list, to check the status of my account. The "Donating Members" list was not visible to me.

Deducing that my membership had indeed expired, I renewed my subscription to WhiteBlaze. Doing so restored the "Members area" button on my toolbar, as well as restored access to the "Donating Members" list. However, threads in Appalachian Trail News Today (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=444) no longer appear in "Today's Posts" or in "New Posts".

If I navigate to "Forums", I can select and view this thread. Access is not denied. However, now that I have renewed my subscription, this thread, and others in this forum, no longer appear as "New Posts" or "Today's Posts". I have also noticed that if I browse to WhiteBlaze, and DO NOT log-on, I can see threads created in this forum. Upon log-on, they are no longer visible, as described.

If you are a donating member, does this thread appear on your "New Posts" list? Does anyone have any idea how I can resolve this glitch?

Thanks,Hi Roland,
I just renewed myself and did not have any problems either before or after donating. This forum is also on my radar as I'm the mod, so I think I would have seen a problem.

[Roland]

Hi Roland,
I just renewed myself and did not have any problems either before or after donating. This forum is also on my radar as I'm the mod, so I think I would have seen a problem.

Thanks for your response, Alligator. Now I know of at least two donating members who can browse to this thread via "Today's Posts/New Posts".

Unfortunately, none of the threads from the Appalachian Trail News Today (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=444) forum appear under "Today's Posts" or "New Posts", when I log-on. I can only see those threads if I log-off.

It's interesting to note that both you and Skids have moderator privileges. No non-moderator, donating member has replied. Is it possible that the only donating members who can access this thread via "Today's Posts/New Posts" are those with moderator rights?

[Alligator]

I'm trying to get Footslogger to test out your theory.

[Alligator]

Paging 'Slogger.

[Alligator]

He said he could see it under New Posts:-?.

Only thing I can think of is to clear your cookies Roland. That's sort of the take two aspirin approach though.

[Roland]

He said he could see it under New Posts:-?.

Only thing I can think of is to clear your cookies Roland. That's sort of the take two aspirin approach though.

Ok, so much for that theory.

My browser preferences (Firefox) clear cookies every time I close my browser window. I have the cleanest cookie-jar in town.

This certainly is not mission-critical, but I did enjoy seeing these news threads, during the few days that my membership lapsed. Unfortunately, now that I've renewed my membership, they've disappeared again.

Thanks for your help, Alligator.

[Flyingfishman]

Redford plans to play Bryson with Paul Newman as Katz. You might as well Re-name this move "Grumpy Old Men in the Woods". Now that my friends would ruin the book forever for me. If you wanted a younger twist on it you could have Phillip Seymore Hoffman and Jack Black. If you wanted to capture the middle aged then you could go with either Wm H Macy or Tim Allen as Bryson and a total newcomer as Katz. As for Katz I relate to when I read the book. There was one guy's face and voice that filled the bill for me. He has never done movies but he does his schtick on the sydicated Bob & Tom radio show. For those who get Bob & Tom you know I'm talking about Chick McGee. For those who don't it streams live on http://www.bobandtom.com/ (http://www.kywilderness.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=dereferer;url=http://www.bobandtom.com/) . Hikers and fans of the book revere it as a comedy. I hope Redford doesn't try to make it something spiritual. That would ruin it.
Here is his picture
http://www.bobandtom.com/gen3/10cover_img/chick_joe.jpg
That is him on the left with Joe Theisman. It wouldn't be a far stretch for him to capture the spirit of katz.

[dessertrat]

It's a shame that John Candy is gone and Steve Martin is too old. If this movie had been made by them around the same time as Trains, Planes, and Automobiles it would have been priceless.

[rafe]

Hikers and fans of the book revere it as a comedy. I hope Redford doesn't try to make it something spiritual. That would ruin it.

I agree. But I gotta hope Newman and Redford are up to the task. Best would be if they could mix the rolling-on-the-floor funny stuff with the "serious" stuff, somehow. But if not, keep it funny, please!

[dessertrat]

It needs to be revamped into a seriously funny well written comedy with continuity or it will be a stupid flop as a movie. It's OK if Katz or Bryson have some sort of "revelation" at the end, or even a couple of serious moments, but I hope it leans heavily toward the comedy.

[Skyline]

There will be lots of food in the hiker boxes in Georgia!!!!! :)


More likely, that food will be littering the trail and nearby. Remember Katz "pitching it" early in Georgia. He couldn't carry it, so he just threw it left and right.

[rafe]

More likely, that food will be littering the trail and nearby. Remember Katz "pitching it" early in Georgia. He couldn't carry it, so he just threw it left and right.

I do remember that, and I cringed when I read it. You just gotta hope that folks don't take it as an object lesson, but rather as a parody.

[dessertrat]

Knowing Redford, I'll bet the film comes with a little "LNT" lesson either in the film, or before or after the credits.

[Tin Man]

Newman is out - said he is retired from the movies. Redford was partly motivated to do Walk to have one last buddy movie with Newman. Now that Newman is done, I think the Jackie Robinson movie will prove to be more compelling and will move forward at the expense of Walk.

IF Walk should become a movie with Redford as a star, he will likely choose someone near his age and it will turn into another rendition of Grumpy Old Men rather than Bryson's version...of Grumpy Middle-Aged Men.

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Hollywood Legend Paul Newman Retires

At the grand ol' age of 82....


By: Chris Taylor (http://www.entertainmentwise.com/writer?name=) on Sunday 27th May 2007

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[ed bell]

Considering Redford's age and the fact that movie adaptations alter parts of a story, I wouldn't be surprised if the movie at times will not reflect the book at all.

[buff_jeff]

I think the positives and negatives of this will balance out. Yeah, the movie will certainly attract a few knuckleheads but it will also attract some great people. Not only that, but it will proliferate awareness like no other medium of entertainment can, especially in America. So, essentially, I think we're trading a few extra people for more awareness and potentially more funding/protected areas. I'll take it.

[Del Q]

Regardless of anyones view, this should generate significant and increased funding (maybe short term) for the ATC - I would hope that nobody disagree's with aquiring more open space / land preservation efforts, encroaching development, etc.

Yin and Yang / Good and Bad

I think more good, come on, who is NOT going to the theatre to see this one? After all, we have to have something to do in the winter!

[Tin Man]

It ain't gonna happen.

[Pedaling Fool]

Regardless of anyones view, this should generate significant and increased funding (maybe short term) for the ATC - I would hope that nobody disagree's with aquiring more open space / land preservation efforts, encroaching development, etc.

Yin and Yang / Good and Bad

I think more good, come on, who is NOT going to the theatre to see this one? After all, we have to have something to do in the winter!


It ain't gonna happen.
I agree. As much as Bill Bryson lamented about the environment, I'm sure he didn't contribute much of his earnings towards the ATC or any other environmental organization and I don't see the hypocritical elitest in hollywood doing much either.

[Tin Man]

I agree. As much as Bill Bryson lamented about the environment, I'm sure he didn't contribute much of his earnings towards the ATC or any other environmental organization and I don't see the hypocritical elitest in hollywood doing much either.

Yep, and I doubt the movie will be made.

[Nearly Normal]

I agree. As much as Bill Bryson lamented about the environment, I'm sure he didn't contribute much of his earnings towards the ATC or any other environmental organization and I don't see the hypocritical elitest in hollywood doing much either.

I wonder how many here are members?

[CocamoJoe]

I can't believe I just read all 8-pages of replies!

I'm thinking of the movie 'Deliverance', filmed in North Georgia along the Chattooga River. After it came out, as one person quoted wikipedia, 30-people drowned! But, how many people didn't? Two-thirds of the U.S. population lives near the Appalachian Trail, and, according to some estimates, up to 20-million people set foot on the Trail each year. Most of those people are obviously day/weekend/week hikers. But, how many more of those people will become serious long-distance hikers?

All the same, long-distance hiking isn't for everyone; nor is everyone at a place in their respective lives where it's a feasible thing. Enjoying the outdoors, however, is primordial, part of being human. I've "only" hiked 460-miles on the Appalachian Trail, and am planning on doing some 630 more in the Fall of 2008. 98% of the people I mention this to are blown away by it; many say it's something they, too, have always wanted to do, and now feel motivated to actually view that desire of theirs as a possible reality; and, others hike vicariously through me, eating up my pictures, writings, and stories. The point being, is that most people will be motivated/inspired by this movie, assuming it's well done, and not a flop. Some hikers don't like Bryson's book, thinking it caricatures it too much and some even question whether the Katz character is even real; and, thus, cringe at its being made into a movie. Who knows? Maybe Paul McCartney really is dead.... can someone say, "Turn me on deadman"? Hahaha...

Anyways, I think this has the potential to be a good thing, provided the actual filming doesn't ruin the trail and terrain the experience of other hikers...

[NICKTHEGREEK]

Do you think it will ruin the trail? I mean at least where I live in Northeast Georgia, everybody knows at least the trail is there. Do you think there are really that many people out there who don't know this thing exists and after seeing the movie will say "Hey, I'm gonna quit my job and go do this thing!"?
It may make some who wander back and forth seek a job

[jersey joe]

If made, the movie will certainly spawn an increase in thru hike attempts.

[Dances with Mice]

If made, the movie will certainly spawn an increase in thru hike attempts.Most probably. But it's hard to say.

How many people went searching the woods of Pennsylvania looking for the Blair witch? (http://www.blairwitch.com/)

....yeah, and how come that movie was marketed as a documentary but everyone knew it was a movie, while Deliverance was marketed as a movie but everyone thinks it's a documentary?

[MoodyBluer]

If made, the movie will certainly spawn an increase in thru hike attempts.


You're probably right, but I wonder if having Redford attached to the movie will have as much influence over folks the way he would have in 1970....he's pushing 70 (if not over it already) and his recent movies have not driven folks to the box office like he used to.

If the movie also happens to be bad then I wonder how much traffic will be driven to the trail.

[canoehead]

As an Outdoor / Adventure Education Instrctor, I have taught hundreds of folks how to roll a kayak, paddle class 3 streams, and rivers. Climb big Mts and little ones, Lead expeditions, or go back and teach a classroom.
After 20+ years of filling up the waterways, wood's and rock faces with like minded people, I began to realize I'm helping to crowd the places that brought me here. Then I realized how happy here really was. So if the AT is what keeps you hungry for more outdoors, young at heart then pass it on. Besides if it gets that busy it'll encourage us to venture to more remote places.

[Coosa]

Eeeeewwwe, Coosa's on her soap box again. Thought she was going to Thru Hike this year. Thought we could get away from her at least once when discussing BBryson's book. :eek: I'm hiking a long section, just haven't started it yet.

For those who do not know, I am NOT a BBryson fan. His ugly sarcasm of Mrs. Mull's mother, a real live person who had had a stroke, in his supposedly funny section on Hiawassee was NOT humorous to those of us who live (and at the time worked) here. It was tacky and ugly and mean spirited, but people laughed at Mrs. Mull's mother anyway, probably thinking that BBryson made her up. Well, she was not a cartoon person, she was real and we don't make fun of disabled people. Period. Southerners have a lot more class than that hidden under our Rednecks and our Rebel flags and our shotguns and pick-up trucks. Trust me on that. :welcome

BUT, my point is, WHERE on the AT is the ATC going to allow film crews? You know they have to build those "rails" that the moving camera gear and camera man sit on. Those things take up a LOT of room and if the trail is not suited for the camera crew, they'll use a bulldozer to "fix" it and probably be like the "Black Dog" crew. Remember that film that was made in Union County, Georgia, and used Neel Gap. In fact SHUT THEM DOWN for a day of shooting. You know what one of the crew did? Purchased the MOST expensive gore tex jacket at Mountain Crossings and then when the movie production was over, brought it back for a full refund. "Isn't that special?" "Bless his heart, he was definitely an exponential touron.":D

Why don't one of you who are following this turn of events contact the ATC and find out WHERE on the AT the movie will be made. Shoot, seems to me, all they have to do is use the approach trail which could use some trail maintenance and litter removal, especially the mile from the visitors' center to the road toward the Lodge. They could shoot at Dick Creek's Gap, and then skip up North to finish the movie. They could recreate Hiawassee back in Hollywood or on RRedford's Ranch. OR I have a better place . . . remember how Sly Stallone used the Alps in place of the Rockies in Cliffhanger? I'll bet they could use the same area for "A littering Southern-phobe puts his toe on the AT" movie.:confused:

Now, look who's being sarcastic. Nope, just telling it as I see it. They don't call me Highly Opinionated Woman Living in North Georgia for nutthin' you know. I have my outspoken reputation to uphold even if it burns PC ears or gets me into trouble with the Forest Service again. (That's an old story about a running argument concerning amenities near the AT.):mad:

:cool:So, someone please contact the ATC about this and post so we know the status of using OUR National Trail as a movie set. I don't like the thought of such an idea.

BUT I'll tell you what. You come up here the year after the movie is shown, and you bring an empty backpack, start at the Visitor's Center at Amicalola State Park and pick up all the discarded high-end European and Asian backpacking gear that's littering the trail and sell it on Ebay. There should be enough gear between the Visitor's Center and Neel Gap to sell to fund your own Thru Hike. :sun

[Lone Wolf]

i can't wait for the movie. it's gonna be great!

[jersey joe]

is there an estimated release date for the movie yet?

[CaseyB]

Chill, Coosa, chill. There's not going to be any movie. Read the whole thread, if you can stand it;)

[FFTorched]

I say let them try to make this movie. I read the book, and wanted to hike the AT before reading the book and when I finished the book I was not all the impressed with Bryson.

If they start destroying things then hopefully we can get some people to take up lawsuits and make the production of this film so costly they will abandon it. If they make to much of a mess maybe we hear about E.L.F. popping up on the East Coast and then we'll have a bunch of firebombed trailers and trucks sitting around and then all hell will break lose and people will all start pointing fingers. Unfortunately we really can't control who goes on the the trail and that's the beauty of it.

I'm just going to wait and see how it pans out.

[max patch]

Chill. If the movie is filmed it will be done on a studio backlot.

[Jaybird]

Chill. If the movie is filmed it will be done on a studio backlot.


YEP, they'll shoot a few scenes on (or NEAR) the trail (maybe the A.T...maybe others) & then other scenes will be in a HOLLYWOOD (or Canadian) studio back lot.


See ya'll out there in April & May...with or WITHOUT Robert "Bryson" Redford:D

[Tin Man]

Chill, Coosa, chill. There's not going to be any movie. Read the whole thread, if you can stand it;)

I agree, at least no movie with Redford at this time. Maybe someday. :)

[Newb]

Yep. They filmed the first season of dukes of Hazzard in Buford, Georgia. The later seasons were filmed in California. I used to laugh at the terrain, dirt, trees etc.

You'll probably have some AT b-roll, a few setting shots in places like SNP or Amicalola...and the rest on a set or off-trail in some easily accesible place. Don't forget, film crews are lazy and location shooting is REALLY expensive.

[ki0eh]

I can't believe I just read all 8-pages of replies!

I'm thinking of the movie 'Deliverance', filmed in North Georgia along the Chattooga River. After it came out, as one person quoted wikipedia, 30-people drowned! But, how many people didn't?

And how many squealed? ;)

Grumman canoes had their top sales year the year after that movie came out. http://www.marathonboat.com/history.htm

[RadioFreq]

Those who are worried that "A Walk In the Woods" movie would bring throngs to the trail can only hope that they bring back Smell-O-Vision.
A few wafts of hiker funk during the closeups would be the best deterent to the masses hitting the trail....as well as probably clearing the theaters. :D

[d'shadow]

I remember when word came about them shooting the movie, "Cold Mountain" which takes place in Waynesville,NC. People were very excited and the crew went to eastern Europe to shoot it. :-?
If they still do it the way they used to; it will mean a year in pre-production, six weeks of shooting, and a year in post-production. the exteriors will be shot somewhere, but we do not know if it will even have any shots of the AT. It could be in Utah for all we know. And any gear stores should put up a sign if they show up to buy, "no refunds!"
Time will tell what they are really going to do.:rolleyes:

[turtle fast]

I think with the devaluing dollar it would make sense for Redford to make the movie in the US....cheaper since the Euro is what 1.56 now. Now who will run into Robert Redford on the trail first?

[Coosa]

I think with the devaluing dollar it would make sense for Redford to make the movie in the US....cheaper since the Euro is what 1.56 now. Now who will run into Robert Redford on the trail first?

Robert Redford is OLD looking. Like he's been run hard and put away wet. All those old movie 'stars' are not capable of climbing Blood Mountain without having a heart attack.

IF they made the movie . . . and you know I helped stop ABC from making a "made for tv movie" . . . you can cuss at me later if you want . . . it would be, as I said, a "Cliffhanger" style . . . with the Alps as the Presidentials.:D

The AT really doesn't need any additional publicity. It's crowded enough as it is. Too bad BBryson didn't start at Katahdin and hike SoBo. That would have been the coup de gras of the hiking experience for the ill prepared.

Now THAT could have been 'funny.' (At least for those with a weird sense of sadistic humor, similar to BBryson.)

I'M CHILLIN' in fact I'm freezing -- it got close to 32* in the mountains last night and cold weather makes my Fibromyalgia worse. But never fear, the mouth of the South is still in gear.:banana

[d'shadow]

"Robert Redford is OLD looking. Like he's been run hard and put away wet. All those old movie 'stars' are not capable of climbing Blood Mountain without having a heart attack." quote by Coosa.


He may be older, but, he is still as sexy and compelling as ever.:p
If he is in the movie, I will gladly pay to watch him walk, talk, move in the way he does so well. :)
Might show up where they are shooting just to have a look. :welcome

[Jan LiteShoe]

"Robert Redford is OLD looking. Like he's been run hard and put away wet. All those old movie 'stars' are not capable of climbing Blood Mountain without having a heart attack." quote by Coosa.


He may be older, but, he is still as sexy and compelling as ever.:p
If he is in the movie, I will gladly pay to watch him walk, talk, move in the way he does so well. :)
Might show up where they are shooting just to have a look. :welcome

We're ALL looking older, barring surgery.
What's this harshness with looking older? It's a natural process. No one stays 21. Especially those of us who love the outdoors.
Aging is better than the alternative though.
:D

[d'shadow]

We're ALL looking older, barring surgery.
What's this harshness with looking older? It's a natural process. No one stays 21. Especially those of us who love the outdoors.
Aging is better than the alternative though.
:D

I quite agree. Coosa mentioned he looks old.:mad:
Well, I'm no spring chicken myself. And I just wanted to respond by saying, that for me, he is still as sexy and compelling as ever. We can only be the best we can be at whatever age we are. :)

[Lilred]

ya, I thought pointing out how old Redford looks was a little tactless. We are all growing old, and I commend him on doing it gracefully, without reverting to surgery like many stars do. Redford is aging with dignity and I respect him for that. AND, I still think he looks damn sexy for a 70 something.

[Sly]

I quite agree. Coosa mentioned he looks old.:mad:
Well, I'm no spring chicken myself.

Neither is Coosa. :D

[Rockhound]

i think i might hike from springer to neels gap and back about 10 time the year after it premiers. just think of all that free gear.

[Rockhound]

Yep, and I doubt the movie will be made.
i think the movie will be made with plenty of artists discretion. i think the movie will have him actually complete the trail while fending off bears bare handed, fording raging rivers at night during horrific storms, being attacked by packs of wild dogs etc....

[Nearly Normal]

GrizzliesToo?

[sheepdog]

We're ALL looking older, barring surgery.
What's this harshness with looking older? It's a natural process. No one stays 21. Especially those of us who love the outdoors.
Aging is better than the alternative though.
:D
Amen to that. If I get a stunt double to hike some of the hills for me, is that ok?

[Sly]

Yep, and I doubt the movie will be made.

Didn't you read the link?

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2008/01/26/redford-trail.html

[Coosa]

I'm not quoting any of you this is for all of you.

#1 - I have great genes and don't look my age. My face isn't wrinkled or etched with deep wrinkles. How does Redford even get a close shave, I wonder. Not that I care. Yeah, you think he looks good, but it's "the genes that tell the tale," not "the jeans that tell the tail."

#2- An older man may "look" sexy, but I doubt that he can perform up to par. No matter what CNN says, www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/04/02/sex.survey.ap/index.html
about 3 to 13 minutes. That's not even the hors devours. (#2 is tossed in to give some levity to this post. But it's true.)

#3- Redford says he will adapt Bill Bryson's 1998 book about hiking the Appalachian Trail. Wanna bet he only shoots at trail heads and where there's road access and hikes less than BBryson? The approach trail, carrying what BBryson carried . . . yeah, if I'm still living here, I'll go watch him have his initial heart attack or stroke or dehydrate.

#4- Sorry guys, but my money is on the ATC denying the film crew ANY access to the AT other than trail heads. Redford doesn't have enough money to grease the hands of the ATC, Nature Conservancy, Wildlife Federation, and the Governmental Agencies he'll have to have permission from to set up his shoot along the AT. Maybe he can use a hand held camera. At least until the cameraman trips over rocks and roots and tumbles down a mountain, sure. Go for it.

#5- If there is ONE "sadistic, sarcastic joke" about Mrs. Mull's mother in the film, I will see to it personally, along with a few others, including some attorney-hikers, that this movie never sees the light of day. It will be tied up in Court until Kingdom Come. I can ignore your or give you permission to call me old (if I'm old, what are my 85 year old parents?), a has-been (another word for "retired" for those who wish), a 3-13 minute (because I know THAT is a lie), or any other direct personal attacks at me or mine. I know the truth, so I don't really care. Some of the conjecture is hilarious and I'm roflmao.

#6- So the women of a certain age (other than myself) think Redford is ruggedly handsome and the men of a certain age wish they owned his land in Montana? Did I get that right?

#7- I have a GREAT idea. He can take the photos of the trail heads and then go to his Montana land to "create the AT" and make the film. Mr "Enviro-Redford" can uproot his own trees and cause degradation of his own forests and leave the AT alone.

#8- Someone's going to ask who my "favorite actor" is . . . Hmmmmmm. Really don't have a favorite. Maybe Burt Reynolds in his younger days. Robert Goulett perhaps. Dick Van Dyke . . . now there is a nicely aged man. But never liked any actor enough to go 'ga-ga' (that's not "georgia-georgia") over any one actor in my youth or even now. And I hated Elvis Presley and the Beatles, too.

Guess I'll be kicked off Whiteblaze for that last statement as so many here recall them and probably have their recordings.

Life is tough, Hike hard. :D
Coosa
Some of that is tongue in cheek, you guess which part or parts.
LOL :jump

[Sly]

I don't think the ATC has any power to say if the film crew has access to the trail or not, but the NPS, FS and state parks the trail travels through.

[jesse]

how can anyone hate the Beatles? That ain't right.

[Sly]

That ain't right.

Neither is Coosa! :p

[esmithz]

Ooops! There goes my screenplay. I figured someone in hollywood would eventually do a movie about this. I only hope its not a documentary. Plenty of documentaries out there about the AT thru experience. One positive thing that may come from it.... people might actually stop watching TV and get out on the trail. Maybe the beginning of a nationwide chill out.

[Lilred]

Gee Coosa, how great for you that you are aging well. congratulations and how's your sex life? I don't give a crap how he performs sexually, but obviously you do.

Good Grief, can you rip a person any more than how you did for growing old? "How does he shave?" You're about as compassionate as a rock when it comes to criticizing someone for growing old. Hope you don't work with geriatrics. BTW, most people who age get fat, bald and ugly. I guess most people your age don't measure up to your standards eh?



And as far as you stopping filming or distribution?? HAH! that'll never happen, no matter who they trash in the movie. Ever hear of changing names? they do it all the time in movies.
You're 'loyalty' to a friend will never compare to Redford's money and influence. Good luck trying.

This is a movie. movie sets are created all the time for filming a movie. Chances are it won't be filmed on the AT and if some is, they will no doubt stick to trail heads or other places that can be driven to. That only makes good money sense when filming a movie. You're rant only shows how much you don't know. Not to mention leaving you looking like a fool.
Get over it Coosa. Redford is still sexy, period.

[Dances with Mice]

I'm not quoting any of you this is for all of you. Bless your heart.

[Hana_Hanger]

I needed a laugh today...went to the humor section...got a surprise on how some are judging others in their hike instead.

SOOO ended up on this thread and
Thank You so Much :D
This was an entertaining and funny
and here is one link to the answer for some of us oldies lol
BABY BOOMERS
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-walt-babyboomers-blurb,0,1036393.blurb

[Skidsteer]

Hahahahaha! :D

[Lilred]

Bless your heart.

LOLOL Priceless

[Lilred]

I needed a laugh today...went to the humor section...got a surprise on how some are judging others in their hike instead.

SOOO ended up on this thread and
Thank You so Much :D
This was an entertaining and funny
and here is one link to the answer for some of us oldies lol
BABY BOOMERS
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-walt-babyboomers-blurb,0,1036393.blurb

That's HILARIOUS........http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/ad/old.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[Coosa]

Some of you got it and some of you didn't. Thank you to those who did. Glad it brought a laugh. Y'all don't know me if you think I'm serious more than 1 to 10% of the time. I will be glad to let you know when I'm serious. If I ever get serious.

My sex life is none of your business. Gee, I sound like Chelsea Clinton.

I wasn't attacking AGING, just old men trying to act like they're still virile. Cialis and Viagra anyone? Don't accidentally volunteer any information on that subject.

IF BBryson had changed the name of Mull's Motel and used a made up name, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But the BOOK used the real name and BBryson wrote mean biting sarcastic words about Mrs Mull's mother who had had a stroke. WE don't say ugly things in the South about disabled elderly people. Maybe about people on WB, IN JEST, but it's just tacky to make fun of the disabled. And if someone on WB has a disability, let's say diabetes, who's going to be ugly enough to say something mean? Anyone here??????? Okay, what about a person wearing glasses? Wanna tell an ugly joke about someone in glasses???? Not that? What about someone who's had a heart attack and a quadruple bypass? Any jokes? What about someone who has to get off the AT because of an injury? You gonna make a mean-spirited joke about that person? NO.

I don't take anything you said to or about me seriously. Life's too short to do that. However, with life being so short and my being a true Southerner, I must defend to the death my Southern Brethren and Sisteren who are disparaged in print. Especially by Southernphobes.

Okay, that's enough, I've laughed so hard my face hurts.

I will now sit back and wait on this "made for tv movie" --- LOL. Someone let me know when it comes to a theater near me. Thanks.:D

[Lilred]

Some of you got it and some of you didn't. Thank you to those who did. Glad it brought a laugh. Y'all don't know me if you think I'm serious more than 1 to 10% of the time. I will be glad to let you know when I'm serious. If I ever get serious.

I wasn't attacking AGING, just old men trying to act like they're still virile. Cialis and Viagra anyone? Don't accidentally volunteer any information on that subject.

IF BBryson had changed the name of Mull's Motel and used a made up name, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But the BOOK used the real name and BBryson wrote mean biting sarcastic words about Mrs Mull's mother who had had a stroke. WE don't say ugly things in the South about disabled elderly people. Maybe about people on WB, IN JEST, but it's just tacky to make fun of the disabled. And if someone on WB has a disability, let's say diabetes, who's going to be ugly enough to say something mean? Anyone here??????? Okay, what about a person wearing glasses? Wanna tell an ugly joke about someone in glasses???? Not that? What about someone who's had a heart attack and a quadruple bypass? Any jokes? What about someone who has to get off the AT because of an injury? You gonna make a mean-spirited joke about that person? NO.

[QUOTE=Coosa;588255]

#1 - I have great genes and don't look my age. My face isn't wrinkled or etched with deep wrinkles. How does Redford even get a close shave, I wonder. Not that I care. Yeah, you think he looks good, but it's "the genes that tell the tale," not "the jeans that tell the tail."

#2- An older man may "look" sexy, but I doubt that he can perform up to par. No matter what CNN says, www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/04/02/sex.survey.ap/index.html
about 3 to 13 minutes. That's not even the hors devours. (#2 is tossed in to give some levity to this post. But it's true.)

#3- Redford says he will adapt Bill Bryson's 1998 book about hiking the Appalachian Trail. Wanna bet he only shoots at trail heads and where there's road access and hikes less than BBryson? The approach trail, carrying what BBryson carried . . . yeah, if I'm still living here, I'll go watch him have his initial heart attack or stroke or dehydrate.

#4- Sorry guys, but my money is on the ATC denying the film crew ANY access to the AT other than trail heads. Redford doesn't have enough money to grease the hands of the ATC, Nature Conservancy, Wildlife Federation, and the Governmental Agencies he'll have to have permission from to set up his shoot along the AT. Maybe he can use a hand held camera. At least until the cameraman trips over rocks and roots and tumbles down a mountain, sure. Go for it. [QUOTE]


Coosa, I don't get it. You say you weren't serious in your other post, then go on and on asking if we'd make fun of your various scenarios.

So let me get this straight, it's not ok to make fun of the things you stated above, but it is ok to make fun of aging stars, old people, wrinkles, impotency, old people having heart attacks on the trail and camermen tripping and falling off the mountain. After all, you weren't serious so I guess you were joking about all that.
Wait a sec. those are some of the things you said we shouldn't make fun of. So which is it Coosa??

Honestly, your first long post was, to me, very meanspirited against Redford, and most old people for that matter, unless they look good.

[Frosty]

That was absolutely hilarious. So nuggets of truth in there.


I needed a laugh today...went to the humor section...got a surprise on how some are judging others in their hike instead.

SOOO ended up on this thread and
Thank You so Much :D
This was an entertaining and funny
and here is one link to the answer for some of us oldies lol
BABY BOOMERS
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-walt-babyboomers-blurb,0,1036393.blurb

[Coosa]

:D Yes, Lilred, you got it. A public figure is fair game. Why else the blasts at the political nominees and the President? They EXPECT it and it's not considered "mean" or "spirited" or "hate" or "speech" -- it's just a verbalized opinion. As long as it's not libelous and even then, the public figure will have to prove in court that the statement was not true. And they usually do not do so because it just calls attention to all the "other" skeletons in their closet. It's pretty hard to prove Redford isn't an old man. Even Jack LaLane looks old and he's as fit as they come.

But I'm being told (by my dil) that people "of a certain age" are recalling Redford in his batter days, when skin was fair and and body was supple and they would have liked to have been his leading-lady. I've just never been impressed with "play acting" I suppose. Even with a more grounded personality, sometimes "you get what you pay for" or sometimes "you get what you ask for" and they may turn out to be frauds (too).

Now HH (still coming to look for humor?) or someone else might think "play actor?" Yes, the person on the screen is pretending to be someone he or she is not in reality. So they're "playing" the part of someone they're not.

If you truly like Redford anything I say probably won't hinder your opinion of him, anyway, will it? I mean, I haven't verified anything really negative about him. Other than that he likes BBryson's book, but then I can overlook that or I'd only have a handful of friends, all from Hiawassee, Georgia, and surrounding towns.

HH are you laughing?

Lilred, it's hard to put the inflection of speaking into written word, isn't it? Some day soon, we won't "post" written word, we'll look at our online camera, speak into it, and then post a short video response. Won't THAT be cool? I think so.

YMMV, Coosa :banana

[Coosa]

"It was on the first of May, in the year 1769, that I resigned my domestic happiness for a time, and left my family and peaceable habitation on the Yadkin River, in North Carolina, to wander through the wilderness of America." - Daniel Boone


Hey, Lilred, are you related to my gggggreat uncle, Daniel Boone? If so, how so?

Coosa

[earlyriser26]

Got a shuttle from wess Wisson on Friday and he thinks Robert De Niro would be good for his part.

[Coosa]

Got a shuttle from wess Wisson on Friday and he thinks Robert De Niro would be good for his part.

ROFLMAO, I just saw a comedian impersonate De Niro and all the "nose breathing" into the microphone.

I don't know many actors, so this is a stab from what I occasionally read online. How about Will Ferrell as BBryson and De Niro as the sidekick? (Why do I want to call him Taz? Because it was Katz. Beer drinking partner, Dave Katz.) Matthew McConaughey for Katz.:cool:

Change the names to protect the innocent and skip over the Hiawassee scene and add it in at another town with made-up names.

My daughter would watch it as she thinks Ferrell is hilarious.

Hmmmm?
Coosa

[airhog794]

I think the screenplay will need substantial "adapting" from the book. The book is funny, but to make the movie funny, it will need some changes.

I'll guarantee you that they have a bear scene of some sort in it, with a bear doing something peculiarly unbearlike.

i agree completely. of the 300 (estimate) thruhikers that decide to do the trail because of this movie, im guessing 15 finish. its pathetic.

[mrc237]

It'll create a whole new mess of "packsniffers" for sure!!!

[Del Q]

Who knows if this will happen, I say this will bring money and more people out to experience the AT.........is that not great?

This is not a N.I.M.B.Y thing (Not in my back yard), the trail is the Worlds to share, money means land preservation and other good stuff that is important long-term.

OK, self-plug, note my trail name, what movie is that from?

Quesses?

[Odd Thomas]

Do you think it will ruin the trail? I mean at least where I live in Northeast Georgia, everybody knows at least the trail is there. Do you think there are really that many people out there who don't know this thing exists and after seeing the movie will say "Hey, I'm gonna quit my job and go do this thing!"?

This is 2008 America, not much quitting required.

[Red Hat]

Just googled Walk in the Woods Redford and found nothing new since January... probably not happening yet since there have been no casting calls or anything since the announcement he had picked Levinson as director. Dell Q, I have no idea...

[i'mthru]

Who will play Katz?

I'm reading the book right now and I keep envisioning Jeff Garlin from Curb Your Enthisiasm. He's the one on the right;)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i296/tv-guy/cye-davidgarlin.jpg

[notorius tic]

FOOTSLOGGER your a trip.. I dont think it will due anymore harm hey into the wild was a great book an great movie "BUT I did not decide to walk into ALASKA OR THE WHITES UN PREPARED"

[grrrhaha]

I didn't read all the posts but enough to make me want to reply. I definitely think if this movie is made it will generate alot of hiking ambition and action. After all One of the biggest movie towns in the world is New York--right off the trail. But other then the risk of those who may hike with no regard to conservation, what's the issue? It seems like a great opportunity to educate in the spirit of friendship those who do decide to hike. Isn't that what the America which seems so elusive these days is all about? Remember your first steps on the trail? Consider your first steps as a human--
If those who helped us take our first steps had not encouraged us, we would have never learned the properly and maybe gone straight to the couch to sit our lives away (which is what most do these days).
Something motivated you to want to hike the AT in the first place--what was it?. Anyway, don't mean to get too serious, i'm just thinking of how we all like to be treated when trying something new.

[ZZXF]

Why not Larry David as Bryson? Now that would be funny.

[kanga]

The challenge that we (the GATC) have to prepare for is what happens before Neels Gap. We could always use more volunteers.

Of course, it might pay to set up a stand just past Sasafrass and offer to shuttle wannabe hikers back to Dahlonega in exchange for their gear ;).
count me in! we need some new car camping equipment what with boy scouts and all. i can get at least 12 yuppies in my truck/truckbed.

[Hoop Time]

By the way, I just talked with someone at the ATC for the story I am working on about teh Earl Shaffer Shelter and the AT Museum. They said they have heard nothing lately and that while the film project doesn't not appear to have been scrapped, it does appear to be on hold.

Earlier in this thread there was mention of A River Runs Through It and its effect on flyfishing.

Trust me, you don't want that to happen. Some streams now are so crowded with fishermen it really detracts from the experience. Makes it tough to get away from the crowds.

On the plus side, most of those newbies won't fish anywhere they can't reach by car. If you are willing to walk in just a mile or two from the parking areas, you can still escape the hordes.

[Jan LiteShoe]

Paul Newman Has Died at 83, His Spokeswoman Says

The actor Paul Newman has died at 83 of cancer, his
spokeswoman told The Associated Press. Mr. Newman, whose
career spanned five decades, was also a prominent social
activist, a major proponent of actors' creative rights and a
noted philanthropist. He was nominated for Academy Awards 10
times, and won a best actor Oscar in 1987 for "The Color of
Money."

Read More:
http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na

[rafe]

RIP, Paul. He was a mensch.

[le loupe]

here redford comments slightly on Newman's death

A walk in the woods is mentioned...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/entertainmentusfilmnewmanredford