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A few weeks ago Hammock Engineer & I were at the Red River Gorge in Kentucky, just off the Sheltowee Trace Trail. Early AM on day 2, a few locals who were there to rappel & I got to talking, the oldest one (25ish) pointed towards the Sheltowee, called it by name and said in a very knowing voice “Yea, it’s part of the Appalachian Trail!!” I nearly fell over I found it so funny. My first thought was to tell him that the guy just below him had just finished a thru hike of the AT & at no time during it was anywhere in Kentucky, but I calmly (& without laughter) Said, “nope, but I wish it was!” & left it at that. Inside I was dying. :rolleyes: :D
I then got to thinking, what other misconceptions are out there?
My friends are almost always surprised when I tell them the AT is over 2100 miles long.
They are also surprised that in 2 months total of section hiking that I haven’t hiked the whole thing. Sure, I can do 35 miles per day for 60 days, being superman & all. :eek:
What other experiences with misunderstanding from “Normals” regarding the AT have you had?
Doctari.
Someone asked me if there were showers. I said, "sure, but they are as predictable as the weather."
MtnBikerGuy
03-03-2008, 21:33
I have had someone ask me if the trail was paved, as if it was the worlds longest sidewalk or something.
buff_jeff
03-03-2008, 21:38
I thought only loony's tried to hike on it. Oh...wait. :D
In all seriousness, though, I never knew there were road crossings. It seems like such a common sense thing, seeing as the trail has to hit roads eventually, but I always just assumed it was a purely wilderness experience. That was when I was little for the most part, right after I saw a crazy looking dude come over a mound of rocks on Mt. Washington on a family trip. That mental image has always stuck with me.
A few weeks ago Hammock Engineer & I were at the Red River Gorge in Kentucky, just off the Sheltowee Trace Trail........
What you meant to say was "A few weeks ago Hammock Engineer and I were at Red River Gorge without Hooch who may have enjoyed going, too........." :p
buff_jeff
03-03-2008, 21:39
Apparently a lot of people think you have to catch your own food too...
Frolicking Dinosaurs
03-03-2008, 21:43
I've been asked how far apart the bathrooms are on the trail :rolleyes:
taildragger
03-03-2008, 21:52
Apparently a lot of people think you have to catch your own food too...
So I've been catching my own food all this time for nothing, rats (delicious shelter snacks?) :mad:
fiddlehead
03-03-2008, 21:54
Many Europeans have heard of it and are quite aware as to how long it is.
I once used a question "How many miles is the Appalacian Trail" as the tie breaker in a trivia contest with all Europeans and the winner said 1500 miles. Most thought it was shorter, with one saying 3,000.
Europeans are more aware of what's going on in the world than Americans i believe.
Brushy Sage
03-03-2008, 21:56
I remember reading a statement several years ago that early settlers in the southern Appalachians came down through the mountains on the Appalachian Trail. Now that's a stretch.
Tennessee Viking
03-03-2008, 22:01
Here are some of actual comments and suggestions that the ATC got from the uneducated.
http://www.tehcc.org/_themes/blueprnt/blubul2a.gif"Please pave the trails so they can be plowed of snow in the winter."http://www.tehcc.org/_themes/blueprnt/blubul2a.gif"Escalators would help on steep uphill sections."http://www.tehcc.org/_themes/blueprnt/blubul2a.gif"Trails need to be wider so people can walk while holding hands."http://www.tehcc.org/_themes/blueprnt/blubul2a.gif"Too many bugs, leeches, spiders and spider webs. Please spray the wilderness to rid the area of these pests."http://www.tehcc.org/_themes/blueprnt/blubul2a.gif"Chair lifts need to be in some places so we can get to the wonderful views without having to hike to them."http://www.tehcc.org/_themes/blueprnt/blubul2a.gif"A McDonald’s would be nice at the trailhead."http://www.tehcc.org/_themes/blueprnt/blubul2a.gif"Need more signs to keep the area pristine."
I remember reading a statement several years ago that early settlers in the southern Appalachians came down through the mountains on the Appalachian Trail. Now that's a stretch.
I agree that is a stretch. SOBO wasn't invented until the 1960's or 70's.
buff_jeff
03-03-2008, 22:05
I agree that is a stretch. SOBO wasn't invented until the 1960's or 70's.
Yeah, I heard it was WEBO before that.
Apparently a lot of people think you have to catch your own food too... This is the usual reaction that I get
What you meant to say was "A few weeks ago Hammock Engineer and I were at Red River Gorge without Hooch who may have enjoyed going, too........." :p
Um, , , , sorry. :eek:
But
it was a weekend,
& last minute.
I figured you was working, , , ,
:o
Yea, should have asked, sigh.
Um, , , , sorry. :eek:
But
it was a weekend,
& last minute.
I figured you was working, , , ,
:o
Yea, should have asked, sigh.
No harm done, my friend. :D I probably was working, acutally. You know weekends are my busy time. I need to get up with you anyway about helping me plan a route out there for the end of the month. I'm going out there with a friend and we want to do a couple nights out that way. I'll PM ya with the details.
LIhikers
03-04-2008, 08:26
My wife and I were just about done with a section in PA and were walking southbound, through the Cumberland Valley, toward Boiling Springs. As we came to one road crossing a big, black SUV stops and the drivers window goes down to reveal the woman driver. Her first question was "are you hiking the Appalachian Trail?" and I told her yes. Her next question was "where does it go?". I responded by pointing back over my shoulder and said "if you go far enough that way it ends in the state of Maine" and then my wife pointed ahead and said "if you go far enough that way the other end is in Georgia". The womans expression never changed and then she asked "where are you going?". I told her that we'd finish our hike for this summer in the town of Boiling Springs and within milliseconds her eyes got wide and she got histerical saying things like "you're going to walk all the way to Boiling Springs?" "you mean the Boiling Springs with the duck pond?" and "OMG you can't walk that far, if I had time I'd drive you there". At that she closed her window and drove away. I guess while she knew of the Appalachian Trail but she never considered to actually go for a walk on it and see what it's like.
I ran into a fellow a couple of years ago near a parking lot in "St. Anthony's Wilderness" (SGL 211 in PA) who asked me why I was carrying loppers and a saw. "I'm a volunteer working on the Appalachian Trail." He said "Well, you're going the wrong way, it's two mountains over by Piketown." I said: "Oh, it's up on top here, this Cold Spring Trail goes to it. I hear it used to be over there though." He said: "Oh, it's still there, I hike it all the time." I said: "Well, the official way to get through was moved over here in 1955 because they had to get it out of [Fort Indiantown] Gap." He said: "Well, that's just not right - they can't move the APPALACHIAN Trail!"
I've heard it called the Adirondack Trail more than a few times.
She got histerical saying things like "you're going to walk all the way to Boiling Springs?" "you mean the Boiling Springs with the duck pond?" and "OMG you can't walk that far, if I had time I'd drive you there".
OH yes. How many times I have been told "You can't walk that far" even by well meaning day hikers. Last time; I was half way through a 14 mile day, I only started hiking sometime arournd 9:30. The family had started the same time, hiking a whole mile. The were D O N E ! I have often wondered if they made it back to their car OK. I made it to the end of my day easily, I even sat for about an hour watching the tourons climbing the trail to Clingman's Dome.
Good times.
Good times.
Chainsaw 08
03-04-2008, 10:24
I was asked if I had to apply for a permit.
One assumed that it was a loop trail, and was surprised when I said it just stops.
Several people could not sort out how long it takes to cover 2000 miles. One person assumed it would take me a full year; another said that I must be planning on going slow if I'm taking six months.
Almost There
03-04-2008, 10:57
When my father heard that I was hiking the trail, he asked me how many miles a day can you do, I told him early on between 10 and 15, and then later on between 15 and 20. Being from Chicago he then said, "that's it, I would figure you could easily cover 20-30 miles a day, as I walk that speed all the time around here."
Pennsylvania Rose
03-04-2008, 11:17
I know people who think thru hikers are irresponsible bums who are running away from real life.
Almost There
03-04-2008, 12:16
My mother and my wife went away together for a couple of days last week and my mother started about my hiking. She started telling her that she doesn't know why Erin puts up with it, and if she were her she would nip it in the bud soon. She also started in on how much gear I have, etc.
Erin with a smile on her face looked at my mom and said, "Is that really the problem or are you just scared with the psychos in the news, and that you're afraid of what may happen to him...my mother with a sigh admitted that "that" was more of the issue than anything. Erin, of course, related the story to me this past weekend...she worries about me too, but she knows I have a pretty good idea of what I am doing. She also said, and I think this sums it up, that my mother doesn't know and so can't understand the nature of the trail and trailfolk.
If someone asks you why, they probably are incapable of understanding the answer.
Those of us that are afraid to die, are the ones that never truly live.
vonfrick
03-04-2008, 13:12
I know people who think thru hikers are irresponsible bums who are running away from real life.
last summer on the long trail i took a break at a state park campground to shower, etc. anyway, a very large group of car campers, 3 families together i think, befriended me and invited me to share their fire. the teens in the group were fascinated by my "adventure" but i got some strange questions from the littles ones, e.g. "don't you have a family?" it soon became obvious after further interaction with the adults in the group that they thought i was homeless with nowhere to go and just generally down on my luck. it's amazing how much you can spend on gear and still be an object of pity! :rolleyes:
last year before i left on a section hike, i told a friend of my plans. his eyes got wide and asked if was taking a knife to defend myself against wolves. i told him i was more afraid of the two legged creatures i may meet than any four legged one.
fifo
last summer on the long trail i took a break at a state park campground to shower, etc. anyway, a very large group of car campers, 3 families together i think, befriended me and invited me to share their fire. the teens in the group were fascinated by my "adventure" but i got some strange questions from the littles ones, e.g. "don't you have a family?" it soon became obvious after further interaction with the adults in the group that they thought i was homeless with nowhere to go and just generally down on my luck. it's amazing how much you can spend on gear and still be an object of pity! :rolleyes:
You know it’s that way with people that ride Harley motorcycles. A guy is on a $20,000.00 motorcycle wearing $500.00 worth of leather and people think he’s a low-life homeless person? :-?
paradoxb3
03-04-2008, 14:03
The main things I get when I tell people about my plans are:
A. They think its going to take either ALOT longer or ALOT shorter a time to hike than it really does. ("So how long will that take, a couple months?" or "You'd better have plenty of money saved cuz I hear that takes a couple years!")
B. They think its nothing but 2175 miles of extreme wilderness. ("How can you carry 5-6 months worth of food?!?!")
C. Or finally, the worst... and I know you've all got these... "You're just crazy." "We need to find you a girlfriend." "You have too much time on your hands." I could just kill Stix for ever singing that $%&*# song... These people I dont bother to try and explain it to anymore.
The Weasel
03-04-2008, 14:05
Most people think it is wilderness, remote, uncrowded and dangerous.
TW
A few people I've talked to seem to believe it's some sort of magical far away land where cell phones don't exist, you don't see anyone for 6 months, carry all you food with you, and will at some point be eaten by a bear, mountain lion, wolves, etc.
Oh, and since Into the Wild came out everyone has been telling me not to eat any plants.
And my favorite is still: "What are you going to do for fun out there"?
My daughter-in-law wondered if we were taking our new travel trailer with us when we thru-hike.:-?
And my favorite is still: "What are you going to do for fun out there"? I had a boss ask me one time "What do you do for entertainment out there".
The main things I get when I tell people about my plans are:
A. They think its going to take either ALOT longer or ALOT shorter a time to hike than it really does. ("So how long will that take, a couple months?" or "You'd better have plenty of money saved cuz I hear that takes a couple years!")
B. They think its nothing but 2175 miles of extreme wilderness. ("How can you carry 5-6 months worth of food?!?!")
C. Or finally, the worst... and I know you've all got these... "You're just crazy." "We need to find you a girlfriend." "You have too much time on your hands." I could just kill Stix for ever singing that $%&*# song... These people I dont bother to try and explain it to anymore.
I like that Styx song, and if someone knows of a good prospect for a girlfriend for me, as long as she’s hot-looking, filthy rich and mentally balanced I’m willing to give her a look.
OK the mentally balanced part is going to be hard to find so I would settle for 2 out of 3. :D
taildragger
03-04-2008, 15:56
I like that Styx song, and if someone knows of a good prospect for a girlfriend for me, as long as she’s hot-looking, filthy rich and mentally balanced I’m willing to give her a look.
OK the mentally balanced part is going to be hard to find so I would settle for 2 out of 3. :D
There's a Jason Boland and The Stragglers song about such a woman, called "Rich, young, dumb, nymphomaniac"
hammock engineer
03-04-2008, 16:16
Yeah my first cowboys camping in forever almost ended up with people repelling onto me. Flashbacks of movies were going through my head for awhile.
I had a friend ask me if it was paved too. The same one asked me if the shelters had electricity.
I met a few hunters on the AT that didn't realize that they were on the AT. I'm not going to get into the hundreds of times I was told I wasn't going to make it, isn't it going to get cold, aren't you a late, are you going north or south, you should stop early b/c there is no way you can make it that far today, and are you going to beat winter that I heard from dayhikers.
paradoxb3
03-04-2008, 17:54
I like that Styx song, and if someone knows of a good prospect for a girlfriend for me, as long as she’s hot-looking, filthy rich and mentally balanced I’m willing to give her a look.
OK the mentally balanced part is going to be hard to find so I would settle for 2 out of 3. :D
attractive. mentally stable. intelligent. -- pick two.
I had a escort service driver I met at a killer Dismal Falls party tell me some crazy stuff. He said, "Did ya know about the appalachian Caverns. There are caverns that go under neath the AT all the way from georgia to maine. Some times the celing is 30-40 feet high in others you have to belly crawl to get through." He then prceeded to do some "whip its" and Nitrous crackers and then some stuff I'd never even heard of. Then he went on to tell me his cousin invented K.I.T.T. the car from Nightrider.
He gave me his buisness card. Needless to say I'll be hanging out with him when I get to Dismall this year.
My son confided in me two days ago while showing me his new HK .45 ACP that he was sure it just wan't big enough to defend against all the "guaranteed" bear attacks I was going to endure on the AT and that I really needed something a bit more substantial, like a .44 Mag or a .454 Causwell(sp) with tactical light and lazer sites, of course :D
doggiebag
03-04-2008, 19:36
My son confided in me two days ago while showing me his new HK .45 ACP that he was sure it just wan't big enough to defend against all the "guaranteed" bear attacks I was going to endure on the AT and that I really needed something a bit more substantial, like a .44 Mag or a .454 Causwell(sp) with tactical light and lazer sites, of course :D
Maybe he knows something about you that you don't - are you particularly slow? Or do you smell like honey? It's still a good thing to know he cares enough to research your possible ballistic needs. :D
HikerRanky
03-04-2008, 20:16
My son confided in me two days ago while showing me his new HK .45 ACP that he was sure it just wan't big enough to defend against all the "guaranteed" bear attacks I was going to endure on the AT and that I really needed something a bit more substantial, like a .44 Mag or a .454 Causwell(sp) with tactical light and lazer sites, of course :D
It's a .454 Casull.... and you don't need something like that in your pack.... The Ruger Super Redhawk in that caliber with a 7 1/2" barrel weighs in at 3.5 pounds empty.... Most people that carry that are hunting grizzlies....
Some people...
Randy
It's a .454 Casull.... and you don't need something like that in your pack.... The Ruger Super Redhawk in that caliber with a 7 1/2" barrel weighs in at 3.5 pounds empty.... Most people that carry that are hunting grizzlies....
Some people...
Randy
Yep, just had to chuckle silently about his perception of the AT 'wilderness'.
Bless him :)
I would agree that a 45 auto would be a bad choice for bear. the 454 Casull would be much better.
HikerRanky
03-05-2008, 14:25
Yep, just had to chuckle silently about his perception of the AT 'wilderness'.
Bless him :)
Amazing that some people think that it's a wilderness, and others think it has become too much civilized....
Randy
What do you eat? Where do you sleep? Where do you go to the bathroom?
I had an elderly woman in my church tell me that the AT ran right through western Rhode Island!!!!!!
I WISH! :D
I know people who think thru hikers are irresponsible bums who are running away from real life.
Occasionally that's the truth. Then there are those who are hopelessly Type-A, just pretending to be bums.
Ok. I was explaining my impending 2 week hike to some folks at the chiropractor's office. Questions included:
So are there snack bars or places to get food?
how far in advance to you have to make reservations at the shelters?
...then after I explained what a shelter was...I got, "no showers?"
Thoughtful Owl
03-06-2008, 09:32
My mother and my wife went away together for a couple of days last week and my mother started about my hiking. She started telling her that she doesn't know why Erin puts up with it, and if she were her she would nip it in the bud soon. She also started in on how much gear I have, etc.
Erin with a smile on her face looked at my mom and said, "Is that really the problem or are you just scared with the psychos in the news, and that you're afraid of what may happen to him...my mother with a sigh admitted that "that" was more of the issue than anything. Erin, of course, related the story to me this past weekend...she worries about me too, but she knows I have a pretty good idea of what I am doing. She also said, and I think this sums it up, that my mother doesn't know and so can't understand the nature of the trail and trailfolk.
You need to give that wife of yours a big hug and a smooch like she will never forget. She sounds very supportative of your adventures.
I had an elderly woman in my church tell me that the AT ran right through western Rhode Island!!!!!!
I WISH! :D
One kooky idea put forth a couple of years ago for routing the Great Eastern Trail involved winding all over southern New England and winding up in such a way that NOBO GET would be SOBO on the RI North-South Trail. That hasn't happened, at least not yet. Maybe she was just ahead of her time!
Almost There
03-06-2008, 10:32
You need to give that wife of yours a big hug and a smooch like she will never forget. She sounds very supportative of your adventures.
Believe me I know what a great gal I got!:D She'd hike more with me, but her job is such right now, every year we hope, this next might actually be the year she will have a more flexible schedule we'll see.
Cookerhiker
03-06-2008, 12:47
I conducted a program for a group of naturalists (from PA) a little over a year ago. The funniest question was whether thruhikers carried all of their food with them for the entire trail starting out. You'd think they'd have asked if they used a pack animal.
Before starting the presentation, I made up and distributed a 10 question multiple choice questionaire. The question where their unfamiliarity surprised me the most was "What state has the most miles of AT - North Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Maine? No one guessed Virginia and all were surprised at the answer.
Jim Adams
03-06-2008, 15:41
attractive. mentally stable. intelligent. -- pick two.
I'd settle for just one of the last two!!!!!!:D
geek
Jim Adams
03-06-2008, 15:44
I like that Styx song, and if someone knows of a good prospect for a girlfriend for me, as long as she’s hot-looking, filthy rich and mentally balanced I’m willing to give her a look.
OK the mentally balanced part is going to be hard to find so I would settle for 2 out of 3. :D
I'm holding out for those 6 little words that will hook me.....my daddy owns a liquor store!:D
geek
Jim Adams
03-06-2008, 15:46
....actually, back on topic, it amazes me how many people think that you will be the only person out there!
geek
I'm holding out for those 6 little words that will hook me.....my daddy owns a liquor store!:D
Whaddaya mean, you and 15 million other Pennsylvanians already do!!
minnesotasmith
03-06-2008, 15:52
I'm holding out for those 6 little words that will hook me.....my daddy owns a liquor store!:D
geek
A WOMAN'S POEM:
Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man, who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong.
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks.
I pray he's gainfull y employed,
When I spend his cash, won't be annoyed.
Pulls out my chair and opens my door.
Massages my back and begs to do more.
Oh! Send me a man who'll make love to my mind,
Knows what to answer to 'how big is my behind?'
I pray that this man will love me to no end,
And always be my very best friend.
A MAN'S POEM:
I pray for a mute gymnast nymphomaniac with
nice firm b**bs who owns a bar on a golf course,
And loves to send me fishing and drinking. This
Doesn't rhyme and I don't give a s**t.
Jim Adams
03-06-2008, 15:58
A WOMAN'S POEM:
Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man, who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong.
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks.
I pray he's gainfull y employed,
When I spend his cash, won't be annoyed.
Pulls out my chair and opens my door.
Massages my back and begs to do more.
Oh! Send me a man who'll make love to my mind,
Knows what to answer to 'how big is my behind?'
I pray that this man will love me to no end,
And always be my very best friend.
A MAN'S POEM:
I pray for a mute gymnast nymphomaniac with
nice firm b**bs who owns a bar on a golf course,
And loves to send me fishing and drinking. This
Doesn't rhyme and I don't give a s**t.
Nice!!!!!!
geek
Occasionally that's the truth. Then there are those who are hopelessly Type-A, just pretending to be bums.
Is pretending fun?
Is pretending fun?
Not near as much fun as being. Don't try to tell them that, though.
vonfrick
03-06-2008, 20:43
A MAN'S POEM:
I pray for a mute gymnast nymphomaniac with
nice firm b**bs who owns a bar on a golf course,
And loves to send me fishing and drinking. This
Doesn't rhyme and I don't give a s**t.
LMFAO
you must know my ex-husband??? :D
minnesotasmith
03-06-2008, 22:45
LMFAO
you must know my ex-husband??? :D
Did you find a better one to marry later on?
vonfrick
03-06-2008, 23:49
well, #3 wasn't so bad
and then there was #5, he was soooo special
but then again, the azaleas have never looked so nice since i put #6 over in that side of the yard...;)
Occasionally that's the truth. Then there are those who are hopelessly Type-A, just pretending to be bums.
Reporting for duty!
minnesotasmith
03-07-2008, 00:01
well, #3 wasn't so bad
and then there was #5, he was soooo special
but then again, the azaleas have never looked so nice since i put #6 over in that side of the yard...;)
Sounds like you're not any better at picking men to stay with than are Pamela Anderson, Joan Collins, or Elizabeth Taylor. ;) Well, there's a lot of that going around these days...
vonfrick
03-07-2008, 00:07
Sounds like you're not any better at picking men to stay with than are Pamela Anderson, Joan Collins, or Elizabeth Taylor. ;) Well, there's a lot of that going around these days...
yeah, you got me there, none of them were rich...anyway...
back to your regularly scheduled thread...
Jail Break
03-07-2008, 01:08
My friend Colin was prepping for a thru-hike in 2004. I was at his (parents') place helping him pack the morning before he left. His mother commented on how worn and old his pack looked, to which Colin said "it's perfectly fine, just VERY broken in! Don't worry ma." His mother went to work, and were still going over his gear and plans that evening when his mother came home several hours late... with a surprise for him. "I didn't want you carrying around that old dingy thing, so I went out and got THIS for you..." It was a huge, maroon, pleather, Samsonite-type suitcase with wheels on it. "It's big enough to fit all your things, and it rolls really nice so you don't have to carry it... just be sure to fill out the nametag so you don't get it confused with anyone else's." I was like.. "Yeah, everybody's got those on the trail this year!" I almost died laughing. Obviously, he still used his old pack for the hike. I met up with him at traildays, and stitched a "Samsonite" label onto his pack when he went for food. I gave him his trail name- Samson.
minnesotasmith
03-07-2008, 01:16
My friend Colin was prepping for a thru-hike in 2004. I was at his (parents') place helping him pack the morning before he left. His mother commented on how worn and old his pack looked, to which Colin said "it's perfectly fine, just VERY broken in! Don't worry ma." His mother went to work, and were still going over his gear and plans that evening when his mother came home several hours late... with a surprise for him. "I didn't want you carrying around that old dingy thing, so I went out and got THIS for you..." It was a huge, maroon, pleather, Samsonite-type suitcase with wheels on it. "It's big enough to fit all your things, and it rolls really nice so you don't have to carry it... just be sure to fill out the nametag so you don't get it confused with anyone else's." I was like.. "Yeah, everybody's got those on the trail this year!" I almost died laughing. Obviously, he still used his old pack for the hike. I met up with him at traildays, and stitched a "Samsonite" label onto his pack when he went for food. I gave him his trail name- Samson.
How old was Samson at the time of this story?
Someone told me he was planning to do the whole thing in 2 week once.
Another person asked me if I was bringing roller blades, because you can go a lot faster with them.
fiddlehead
03-07-2008, 06:41
I think maybe he did it (2 weeks)
There was a guy "sky blazing" in '95
Farr Away
03-07-2008, 09:03
How can you carry _that much_ food? (They thought you had to carry all the food for the hike. They also thought the whole idea of resupply was kind of weird: "But you're supposed to be hiking!")
Here's all you need to deal with those ignorant flatlanders...
http://www.terrapinphoto.com/at_shirt_web.jpg
RadioFreq
03-07-2008, 12:33
Here's all you need to deal with those ignorant flatlanders...
http://www.terrapinphoto.com/at_shirt_web.jpg
Love to have one of those.....except I HATE mac and cheese. :mad:
HikerRanky
03-07-2008, 17:51
Had a conversation with someone this morning:
Q: What's the Pack for?
A: Hiking the Appalachian Trail.
long pause....
Q: Is that where those fantastic oysters come from?
A: No, that's Appalachicola...