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WhiteBlaze
04-03-2008, 12:40
<table border=0 width= valign=top cellpadding=2 cellspacing=7><tr><td valign=top class=j><font style="font-size:85%;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br><div style="padding-top:0.8em;"><img alt="" height="1" width="1"></div><div class=lh><a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm%3Fshow%3Dlocalnews%26pnpID%3D680% 26NewsID%3D890114%26CategoryID%3D18764%26on%3D1&cid=0&ei=Zwj1R96mD5SoygSSmtDhCg&usg=AFrqEzeTlEp_HRx0AxkfFqUjgvp3VcqITw">Official: Pinhoti won’t be part of <b>Appalachian Trail</b></a><br><font size=-1><font color=#6f6f6f>Rome News-Tribune,&nbsp;GA&nbsp;-</font> <nobr>Mar 31, 2008</nobr></font><br><font size=-1>Hikers familiar with the 2174-mile <b>Appalachian Trail</b> have started at Mount Katahdin, Maine, and ended at Springer Mountain in the Chattahoochee National <b>...</b></font></div></font></td></tr></table>

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Lone Wolf
04-03-2008, 12:43
no duh!

Sly
04-03-2008, 12:51
Maybe they can make it part of the ECT! :)

Cuffs
04-03-2008, 13:02
That article is just the GA PT group making their own statement about their stance on a relocation.

SGT Rock
04-03-2008, 13:04
I don't see it ever becoming a part of the AT, but it is still a great hike.

Appalachian Tater
04-03-2008, 13:08
Very short-sighted.

Sly
04-03-2008, 13:17
Very short-sighted.

I wouldn't say so. They already have an org and it would have to be absorbed into the ATC. Would they want the extra burden? Plus, you can already hike both if you want.

SGT Rock
04-03-2008, 13:18
At one time I thought it would be a great idea to extend the AT, but I've come to the conclusion that it really isn't needed.

clured
04-03-2008, 13:49
That's a shame. Why wouldn't you want to extend it? The Pinhoti is a fantastic hike, and it makes more sense to push the trail to the real origins of the ridgeline.

Dances with Mice
04-03-2008, 13:53
That's a shame. Why wouldn't you want to extend it? The Pinhoti is a fantastic hike, and it makes more sense to push the trail to the real origins of the ridgeline.No problem. Georgia will trade you the terminus of the AT for the water in the Chattahoochee River.

Deal?

Sly
04-03-2008, 14:07
That's a shame. Why wouldn't you want to extend it? The Pinhoti is a fantastic hike, and it makes more sense to push the trail to the real origins of the ridgeline.

Nothing is stopping anyone from starting or ending in AL. An AT thru-hike is hard enough as it is for most. Very few would be able to thru-hike it with the Pinhoti included.

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-03-2008, 14:08
I think both the AT and the AL & GA Pinhoti are part of the GET and ECT already.

Let's face facts: the AT termini are etched in stone and the route is always going to be a single white blazed path with blue blazed emergency routes. It is what it is - no more and no less. If staying on a single path without alternatives is your thing, the AT is your kind of trail. If not, look at the GET and ECT.

Many of us have move on to the idea of developing the corridor concept in the eastern US - it is already in use on the CDT and PCT. This makes the Appalachian Trail only one trail making up a network of trails along the eastern coast that could become part of such a corridor - not the only trail nor the premier trail in the east. It is just one trail - just like the Florida Trail, Pinhoti in AL & GA, Benton MacKaye Trail, Long Trail, Cumberland Trail, Pine Mountain Trail, Allegheny Trail, Tuscarora Trail, Standing Stone Trail, PA's Mid-State Trail. Finger Lakes Trail and the International AT are trails.

As for overseeing organizations, if any mergers happen it would likely be the ATC that gets absorbed into another organization. The AT is just one trail - the other two are trail networks made up of several trails.

Lone Wolf
04-03-2008, 14:09
Nothing is stopping anyone from starting or ending in AL. An AT thru-hike is hard enough as it is for most. Very few would be able to thru-hike it with the Pinhoti included.

who cares. trails aren't built to be "thru-hiked".

Lone Wolf
04-03-2008, 14:10
I think both the AT and the AL & GA Pinhoti are part of the GET and ECT already.

Let's face facts: the AT termini are etched in stone and the route is always going to be a single white blazed path with blue blazed emergency routes. It is what it is - no more and no less. If staying on a single path without alternatives is your thing, the AT is your kind of trail. If not, look at the GET and ECT.

Many of us have move on to the idea of developing the corridor concept in the eastern US - it is already in use on the CDT and PCT. This makes the Appalachian Trail only one trail making up a network of trails along the eastern coast that could become part of such a corridor - not the only trail nor the premier trail in the east. It is just one trail - just like the Florida Trail, Pinhoti in AL & GA, Benton MacKaye Trail, Long Trail, Cumberland Trail, Pine Mountain Trail, Allegheny Trail, Tuscarora Trail, Standing Stone Trail, PA's Mid-State Trail. Finger Lakes Trail and the International AT are trails.

there is no ECT

Sly
04-03-2008, 14:14
who cares. trails aren't built to be "thru-hiked".

Well, they may not be built to be thru-hiked but they are. :welcome

Lone Wolf
04-03-2008, 14:16
Well, they may not be built to be thru-hiked but they are. :welcome

... with a large failure rate

Sly
04-03-2008, 14:18
If it happens, the ATC is going to get absorbed into the ATA? OK. :rolleyes:

Sly
04-03-2008, 14:20
... with a large failure rate

Does not compute. No one should think they're a failure if they don't complete a thru-hike. Only anals would do that.

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-03-2008, 15:12
there is no ECTECT (http://www.nimblewillnomad.com/eastern_continental_trail_guide.htm) :confused:

Lone Wolf
04-03-2008, 15:13
ECT (http://www.nimblewillnomad.com/eastern_continental_trail_guide.htm) :confused:

like i said. there is no ECT. oops. there is http://www.eastcoasttrail.com/

Cuffs
04-03-2008, 15:16
Nevermind...

Sly
04-03-2008, 15:21
ECT (http://www.nimblewillnomad.com/eastern_continental_trail_guide.htm) :confused:


†John Brinda (http://complabs.nevada.edu/%7Ebrindaj/) first hiked this amalgam of trails in 1997, which has since come to be known as the Eastern Continental Trail. The following year, Eb Nimblewill Nomad Eberhart retraced Brinda’s path. Shortly thereafter, Nomad coined the term Eastern Continental Trail, in order to offer up some identity to their remarkable and respective adventures. In 2000-2001, Nomad returned to Canada, again, to hike the ECT from north to south. Shortly after completing that southbound trek, he returned north once more, to Canada, to hike the Long Range Appalachian Mountains of Newfoundland ─ and shortly thereafter, to chronicle the first known hike o’er the entire Appalachian Mountain Range, at least as we know these spiritual, aged mountains to exists on the North American continent.Nimblewill Nomad made the name up. However there is no official body, website, guidebook, set of maps etc.

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-03-2008, 15:23
I'll bet you think there is no AMT either, don't you. :p

This is a trail proposed by Nimblewill Nomad that does exactly what people have been clamoring for the AT to do - cover the entire Appalachian range:


Appalachian Mountains Trail (AMT) 3800 miles

These sections, beginning with the Pinhoti Trail on Flagg Mountain in Alabama, combine to create the Appalachian Mountains Trail. The AMT stretches from where the Appalachians begin in south-central Alabama to where they plunge to the sea at the tip of Belle Isle, Newfoundland, in the Labrador Sea.

* Pinhoti National Recreation Trail (PT) 295 miles (plus or minus)

In 2007, to promote and advance the PT (path of the turkey), the Pinhoti National Recreation Trail Alliance (http://www.pinhotitrailalliance.org/) (PTA) was organized, a not-for-profit, non-chartered cooperative of many volunteer organizations (trail/other), and numerous local, state, and federal agencies. The PTA serves as a clearinghouse for all vital information concerning the PT.

In Alabama, the PT lies almost entirely with the Talladega National Forest (http://gorp.away.com/gorp/resource/us_national_forest/al_talla.htm). Beginning on Flagg Mountain, south of Sylacauga, the southernmost of the grand Appalachian Mountains to stand above 1,000 feet, the PT trends generally northeast along a continuous footpath, some 140 miles, to Flagpole Mountain (where presents a most spectacular vantage across and into Georgia) at the Alabama/Georgia line (time change at the cairn, central to eastern). Of significance: The beautifully restored old stone CCC Lookout Tower (http://www.firetower.org/listings/us250.html) atop Flagg Mountain stands ever as a sentinel, marking the symbolic beginning/terminus of the Appalachian Mountain Range - at least as we know these timeless and spiritual mountains to exist on the North American continent.

In Georgia, the PT descends Flagpole Mountain to enter the delightful, hiker-friendly trailtown of Cave Spring (http://www.cityofcavespring.com/). From there, it continues trending generally northeast some 155 miles, as it traverses the Armuchee Ridges (http://www.sherpaguides.com/georgia/mountains/cumberland_plateau/armuchee_ridges.html) west of Rome - then on to Rocky Face (http://ngeorgia.com/history/dalton.html) near Dalton, there to cross the Great Valley (http://sherpaguides.com/georgia/mountains/cumberland_plateau/great_valley.html), to reach the rugged Cohuttas (http://www.cviog.uga.edu/Projects/gainfo/physiographic/CM.htm) before connecting to the Benton MacKaye Trail below Dyer Gap.

Oh yes it is true, that south of Springer Mountain, seldom do these grand old Appalachians rise to stand much above 2,000 feet - but do not be lulled or turned away! For within the bosom of these little-known southern mountain reaches, does this grand PT traverse some of the most rugged, remote, breathtakingly picturesque mountain terrain to be found anywhere along the entire Appalachian Mountain Range - from Flagg Mountain, Alabama, clear to Belle Isle, Newfoundland. Believe me, dear friends, I know!

For information concerning the PT, visit the PTA (http://www.pinhotitrailalliance.org/). Also, for PT resources go to the Alabama Hiking Trail Society (http://hikealabama.org/pinhotinew.html), the Georgia Pinhoti Trail Association (http://www.georgiapinhoti.org/pinhoti_article.htm) and the USFS (http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/alabama/aboutus).

For the beautiful, USFS five-map series of the PT through the Talladega National Forest, go to the Forest Place Store (http://theforestplace.usihost.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=TALLA), or contact:

Forest Supervisor
National Forests in Alabama
2946 Chestnut Street
Montgomery, AL 36107
(334) 832-4470
http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/alabama/aboutus/ (http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/alabama/aboutus/)


* Benton MacKaye Trail (BMT) 65 miles

A portion of the BMT in Georgia connects the PT to the Appalachian National Scenic Trail at Springer Mountain. Thus, for some 65 miles the ECT follows the BMT. This treadway is complete and is well maintained, through the cooperative effort of the USFS and the Benton MacKaye Trail Association (http://www.bmta.org/). The BMT is moderate to strenuous hiking, preparing hikers for what lies ahead on the Appalachian National Scenic Trail.

For BMT maps and information, contact:

Benton MacKaye Trail Association
P. O. Box 53271
Atlanta, GA 30355-1271
www.bmta.org (http://www.bmta.org/)


* Appalachian National Scenic Trail (AT) 2150 miles

The AT, the granddaddy of all trails, begins on Springer Mountain (http://www.planetanimals.com/logue/Springer.html), Georgia, and runs some 2150 miles along an uninterrupted footpath, over mountains and through the valleys in fourteen states, to Mt. Katahdin (http://www.peakware.com/peaks.html?pk=281), Maine. The AT is the backbone for a network of other delightful and enjoyable side and loop trails all along the central Appalachians. It serves as the anchor and the grand section for the ECT.

The AT is maintained by the Appalachian Trail Conservancy (http://www.appalachiantrail.org/site/c.jkLXJ8MQKtH/b.1423119/k.BEA0/Home.htm) (ATC) through the cooperative effort of the ATC, its maintaining clubs, and a myriad of local, regional, and federal agencies.

For AT maps and information, contact:

Appalachian Trail Conservancy
799 Washington Street
P.O. Box 807
Harpers Ferry, WV 25425-0807
(304) 535-6331
www.atconf.org (http://www.atconf.org/)
info@appalachiantrail.org (info@appalachiantrail.org)


* Sentier International des Appalaches/International Appalachian Trail (SIA/IAT) 1285 miles

The SIA/IAT (http://www.internationalat.org/) offers hikers the opportunity to continue their hike along the Appalachian Range from Baxter State Park (http://www.baxterstateparkauthority.com/), Maine to where the Appalachians meet the sea at Cap Gaspé, Québec, thence across the Gulf of St. Lawrence, to continue along the spectacular Long Range Appalachian Mountains of Newfoundland. The SIA/IAT connects Mt. Katahdin, Mt. Carleton (http://www.out-there.com/carleton.htm), Mt. Jacques Cartier (http://www.greatoutdoors.com/published/camp/northeast/hikingtheforgottenendoftheat), and Lewis Hill (http://www.iatnl.ca/Sections/lewis-hills/lewis-hills-index.html), the highest points in Maine, New Brunswick, southern Québec, and the island of Newfoundland respectively, to end on the remote island of Belle Isle, Newfoundland.

Interest in the entire Appalachian Range, as we know it to exist on the North American continent, and especially the interest to hike there, is now taking root in Newfoundland, through formation of the newest group of trail builders, the Newfoundland Chapter, SIA/IAT (http://www.iatnl.ca/index.html).

For maps and information about the SIA/ IAT, write to:

Richard Nopack Anderson
Maine Chapter SIA/IAT
27 Flying Point Road
Freeport, ME 04032
www.internationalat.org (http://www.internationalat.org/)
richardban@suscom-maine.net (richardban@suscom-maine.net)

Lone Wolf
04-03-2008, 15:25
there's no AMT, ECT and the GET is not complete

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-03-2008, 15:29
LW, this brings up an interesting question -- exactly what structures have to be in place for a trail to be a trail? An organization like the ATC, BMTA, PTA, etc.? Guidebooks specific to the trail? Something else?

minnesotasmith
04-03-2008, 15:31
Why wouldn't you want to extend it?

Is that it will knock back the # of thruhikers even more than they already are each year. Thrus inspiring others as they do (either to hike, or to at least support the Trail), it would IMO in the long run hurt the AT to do that. Doesn't mean I wouldn't one day consider hiking both at a stretch, though. ;)

Sly
04-03-2008, 15:39
LW, this brings up an interesting question -- exactly what structures have to be in place for a trail to be a trail? An organization like the ATC, BMTA, PTA, etc.? Guidebooks specific to the trail? Something else?

What it needs is maintainers and atleast a quasi official body. Even Brett from the Grand Enchantment trail does maintenance and speaks with forest managers about relos etc has maps, updates, a guidebook, a website and a email list/group.

http://www.simblissity.net/grand_enchantment.shtml

Lone Wolf
04-03-2008, 15:40
LW, this brings up an interesting question -- exactly what structures have to be in place for a trail to be a trail? An organization like the ATC, BMTA, PTA, etc.? Guidebooks specific to the trail? Something else?

anything except a couple of people just making up names

Sly
04-03-2008, 15:41
I'll bet you think there is no AMT either, don't you. :p

This is a trail proposed by Nimblewill Nomad ....

Exactly, keyword being "proposed"

SGT Rock
04-03-2008, 16:09
Maybe we can come up with our own trail, full of AT, road walks, blue blazes, and all other sorts of things like requirements to eat at certain places and drink at certain bars. We can start a website or something and call it "The Grand Funk Railroad Trail"

Sly
04-03-2008, 16:34
Maybe we can come up with our own trail, full of AT, road walks, blue blazes, and all other sorts of things like requirements to eat at certain places and drink at certain bars. We can start a website or something and call it "The Grand Funk Railroad Trail"

LOL... excellent idea, although coming up with a route agreeable to all could be a problem!

SGT Rock
04-03-2008, 16:38
I nominate Lone Wolf as the trail coordinator.

Sly
04-03-2008, 16:41
I nominate Lone Wolf as the trail coordinator.

Second. He knows some great blue blazes. We could even get patches! :banana

Frosty
04-03-2008, 20:20
I think both the AT and the AL & GA Pinhoti are part of the GET and ECT already.
there is no ECTThere is a GET, though, it isn't connected to the Pinhoti or the AT:

http://www.simblissity.net/grand_enchantment.shtml

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-03-2008, 20:23
Oh no, another GET -- this is going to be like the Ice Age Trail and the International AT....
LOL... excellent idea, although coming up with a route agreeable to all could be a problem!Corridor approach = problem solved

Two Speed
04-03-2008, 20:26
Second. He knows some great blue blazes. We could even get patches! :bananaMm hmm, and maybe little rainbow rockers for thru-hikers? :p

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-03-2008, 20:32
How about a set of Sgt bars like Rock's avatar - with multicolored bars and a train engine in the center or better yet - you get one set of rockers and bars for the Grand Funk Railroad Trail, the CDT and the PCT -- Sgt bars would be a triple crowner.

Two Speed
04-03-2008, 20:34
Not too sure about the train engine. Other than that, I think we're making progress.

ki0eh
04-03-2008, 20:46
Didn't see it yet in this thread so I'll post the Great Eastern Trail website http://www.greateasterntrail.org . The Alabama Pinhoti and part of the Georgia Pinhoti (perhaps south/west of Sloppy Floyd SP) are part of this GET.

chili36
04-03-2008, 22:39
Hey Sgt Rock, let's run the trail through Blount County. We could use the Alcoa Hooters as a "trail shelter".

ed bell
04-03-2008, 23:43
One of my favorite trails is less than 10 miles long. :-? A route having components with different names takes nothing away from the journey that traversed them. An analogy, it's great that I-80 goes across the USA in one shot, but I'd wager that there is a better route one could piece together to enjoy the ride.:sun

dperry
04-04-2008, 07:28
How about a set of Sgt bars like Rock's avatar - with multicolored bars and a train engine in the center or better yet - you get one set of rockers and bars for the Grand Funk Railroad Trail, the CDT and the PCT -- Sgt bars would be a triple crowner.

Yeah, but you only get the GFRT patch if you walk the entire trail while doing the Loco-motion, thereby giving rise to an entirely new form of purism. :D

SGT Rock
04-04-2008, 11:04
Hey Sgt Rock, let's run the trail through Blount County. We could use the Alcoa Hooters as a "trail shelter".
They don't alow tenting outside.

chili36
04-04-2008, 13:32
They don't appreciate passing out on the bar either.

Frolicking Dinosaurs
04-04-2008, 13:35
Hey Sgt Rock, let's run the trail through Blount County. We could use the Alcoa Hooters as a "trail shelter".The near-by Walmart might let us tent in the parking lot -- and then there's the old Pellissippi campus lawn......

Tennessee Viking
04-04-2008, 15:02
I would love the Key West portion of the Eastern Continental.

Odd Thomas
07-05-2008, 04:04
No problem. Georgia will trade you the terminus of the AT for the water in the Chattahoochee River.

Deal?

Brilliant! :)

Mrs Baggins
07-05-2008, 08:38
there is no ECT


Wow! That's really going to be news to M.J. "Nimblewill Nomad" Eberhart and Jojo Smiley! The whole thing must have been in their imaginations! :eek:

Lone Wolf
07-05-2008, 08:41
Wow! That's really going to be news to M.J. "Nimblewill Nomad" Eberhart and Jojo Smiley! The whole thing must have been in their imaginations! :eek:

there is no ECT in the U.S.

Lone Wolf
07-05-2008, 08:43
there is no ECT

actually there is but it's only a few hundred miles long and it's in canada
http://www.eastcoasttrail.com/

chili36
07-05-2008, 08:53
While there may not be any "official designation" of the ECT.....there are still a number of people who refer to the Key West to Canada hike as the "ECT".

Does it exist? By "official nomenclature"..no. Is it physically present and can it be described by those who refer to it as the ECT...yes.

Krewzer
07-05-2008, 09:40
<table border=0 width= valign=top cellpadding=2 cellspacing=7><tr><td valign=top class=j><font style="font-size:85%;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br><div style="padding-top:0.8em;"><img alt="" height="1" width="1"></div><div class=lh><a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm%3Fshow%3Dlocalnews%26pnpID%3D680% 26NewsID%3D890114%26CategoryID%3D18764%26on%3D1&cid=0&ei=Zwj1R96mD5SoygSSmtDhCg&usg=AFrqEzeTlEp_HRx0AxkfFqUjgvp3VcqITw">Official: Pinhoti won’t be part of <b>Appalachian Trail</b></a><br><font size=-1><font color=#6f6f6f>Rome News-Tribune,&nbsp;GA&nbsp;-</font> <nobr>Mar 31, 2008</nobr></font><br><font size=-1>Hikers familiar with the 2174-mile <b>Appalachian Trail</b> have started at Mount Katahdin, Maine, and ended at Springer Mountain in the Chattahoochee National <b>...</b></font></div></font></td></tr></table>

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I can't get this link to work....exactly who said what and why?

Odd Thomas
07-05-2008, 09:49
I can't get this link to work....exactly who said what and why?

direct link:
http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/680/public/news890114.html

Krewzer
07-05-2008, 09:50
Never mind. I got it. Thanks.

The Scribe
07-05-2008, 10:42
Mm hmm, and maybe little rainbow rockers for thru-hikers? :p

Will dogs, shelters, and hiking poles be allowed on any trail Wolf coordinates? :D:D:D

Two Speed
07-05-2008, 11:29
Probably not. Wouldn't coordinate with the rockers and train engine.

MOWGLI
07-05-2008, 11:34
there is no ECT in the U.S.

It's a route. Not an official trail. Someone wanna claim it's not a route? :-? :D

minnesotasmith
07-05-2008, 11:48
I think both the AT and the AL & GA Pinhoti are part of the GET and ECT already.

Let's face facts: the AT termini are etched in stone and the route is always going to be a single white blazed path with blue blazed emergency routes. It is what it is - no more and no less. If staying on a single path without alternatives is your thing, the AT is your kind of trail. If not, look at the GET and ECT.

Many of us have move on to the idea of developing the corridor concept in the eastern US - it is already in use on the CDT and PCT. This makes the Appalachian Trail only one trail making up a network of trails along the eastern coast that could become part of such a corridor - not the only trail nor the premier trail in the east. It is just one trail - just like the Florida Trail, Pinhoti in AL & GA, Benton MacKaye Trail, Long Trail, Cumberland Trail, Pine Mountain Trail, Allegheny Trail, Tuscarora Trail, Standing Stone Trail, PA's Mid-State Trail. Finger Lakes Trail and the International AT are trails.

As for overseeing organizations, if any mergers happen it would likely be the ATC that gets absorbed into another organization. The AT is just one trail - the other two are trail networks made up of several trails.

Some of the ATC's major long-standing issues (that their institutional culture is seemingly powerless to fix) might finally get addressed. (Most of them could get major starts in about a week IMO, but that's another story.)

Likewise, the GA Pinhoti trail club getting absorbed under the Alabama one would be a giant step towards making the Pinhoti adequate to AT levels (in the well-designed sections, such as [ironically] the AT in GA, most of VA, etc.) The AL Pinhoti club is manifestly much better at getting things done than the GA Pinhoti club, so far more needed work would get done if the AL club's region covered GA as well. It's analogous to how the GA AT club would do well by the AT in general to loan a top trail designer to eastern PA to at least show the trail clubs there some of the basics the latter have obviously long been struggling with.

Cuffs
07-05-2008, 11:59
Some of the ATC's major long-standing issues (that their institutional culture is seemingly powerless to fix) might finally get addressed. (Most of them could get major starts in about a week IMO, but that's another story.)

Likewise, the GA Pinhoti trail club getting absorbed under the Alabama one would be a giant step towards making the Pinhoti adequate to AT levels (in the well-designed sections, such as ironically GA, most of VA, etc.) The AL club is manifestly much better at getting things done than the GA one, so far more needed work would get done if the AL club's region covered GA as well. It's analogous to how the GA AT club would do well to loan a top trail designer to eastern PA to at least show the trail clubs there some of the basics they've long been struggling with.

MS: Please name the Alabama club that you think oversees the entire Pinhoti in Alabama? And the governing authority that is over trails in Alabama?

Sly
07-05-2008, 12:42
Many of us have move on to the idea of developing the corridor concept in the eastern US - it is already in use on the CDT and PCT. This makes the Appalachian Trail only one trail making up a network of trails along the eastern coast that could become part of such a corridor - not the only trail nor the premier trail in the east. It is just one trail - just like the Florida Trail, Pinhoti in AL & GA, Benton MacKaye Trail, Long Trail, Cumberland Trail, Pine Mountain Trail, Allegheny Trail, Tuscarora Trail, Standing Stone Trail, PA's Mid-State Trail. Finger Lakes Trail and the International AT are trails.


If the AT isn't the premeir hiking the trail in the East, which is?

Also, neither the PCT(A) or CDT(A) have a trail corridor aspect except in the minds of the hikers. There's official trail but many hikers deviate and take other trails. Of course, it's the same on the AT.

Krewzer
07-05-2008, 18:19
No problem. Georgia will trade you the terminus of the AT for the water in the Chattahoochee River.

Deal?

Well dang DWM...I thought you Georgians had plenty of water since you took over part of Tenneessee.:)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330113,00.html

chili36
07-05-2008, 18:45
Well dang DWM...I thought you Georgians had plenty of water since you took over part of Tenneessee.:)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330113,00.html



They want it....but they haven't taken it and are very unlikely to get a "slice" of Tennessee.

Works about the same on the football field too.

Alligator
07-05-2008, 19:19
This thread take a major turn from discussing the Pinhoti to worrying about all the rocks in PA. It's been split, the PA discussion is here. (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38815)

MOWGLI
07-05-2008, 19:24
The Georgia Pinhoti Trail Association doesn't really coordinate much in the way of maintenance. The NW Georgia SORBA group does lots of maintenance on the trail however. User groups are really the moving force on the Georgia section of the Pinhoti.

As Cuffs suggested, there are a number of clubs in Alabama who maintain the Pinhoti. Not just one.

Lone Wolf
07-05-2008, 19:25
This thread take a major turn from discussing the Pinhoti to worrying about all the rocks in PA. It's been split, the PA discussion is here. (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38814)

link ain't workin.

4eyedbuzzard
07-05-2008, 19:33
........

Alligator
07-05-2008, 19:36
link ain't workin.Thanks, fixed it.

saimyoji
07-06-2008, 09:20
still not working.

Cuffs
07-06-2008, 09:58
Its gone, wasnt worth the effort anyway...

Alligator
07-06-2008, 10:37
Unfortunately, that thread did not survive its move. I was trying to work a spacer into the opening post and the thread got lost. Sorry about that.

chili36
07-06-2008, 17:48
A lot of discussion for something that, in all liklihood, will never happen.