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Homer&Marje
06-23-2008, 11:52
My wife saw the post earlier about sheeth knives and believes my knife is too big and un-practical... please help me prove her wrong (or me) by the way for those weight enthusiasts it's only like 9 oz with the sheath and super durable and wrapped in nylon rope... oooh best knife ever!

http://www.buysellcommunity.com/sale/JXEFUCPY/

Jack Tarlin
06-23-2008, 11:56
I used to carry a big knife years ago, before I realized there was simply no need for it.

You need a knife to cut food (like hard cheese or pepperoni) or on rare occasion, to cut a piece of parachute cord.

There will be many days where you don't use (and don't need) your knife at all.

The big knife you have is a handsome thing, but there's no need for it on a thru-hike.

Your wife is correct.....your knife is too big and is not practical.

Sorry.

neo
06-23-2008, 11:58
My wife saw the post earlier about sheeth knives and believes my knife is too big and un-practical... please help me prove her wrong (or me) by the way for those weight enthusiasts it's only like 9 oz with the sheath and super durable and wrapped in nylon rope... oooh best knife ever!

http://www.buysellcommunity.com/sale/JXEFUCPY/


cool knife i like it:cool:neo

Appalachian Tater
06-23-2008, 12:01
Your wife's right. As always. :)

In addition to a small blade, little scissors and tweezers and nail clippers are helpful.

neo
06-23-2008, 12:01
My wife saw the post earlier about sheeth knives and believes my knife is too big and un-practical... please help me prove her wrong (or me) by the way for those weight enthusiasts it's only like 9 oz with the sheath and super durable and wrapped in nylon rope... oooh best knife ever!

http://www.buysellcommunity.com/sale/JXEFUCPY/



i have one of these a swedish more knife:cool:neo

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=78455

4eyedbuzzard
06-23-2008, 12:01
9 oz? That's almost as much as my .380 pistol weighs - loaded! :rolleyes: :D Priorities...

Small knife like a Gerber LST or equivalent is all you need. Swiss army knives are okay if they don't have too many blades tools.

neo
06-23-2008, 12:04
My wife saw the post earlier about sheeth knives and believes my knife is too big and un-practical... please help me prove her wrong (or me) by the way for those weight enthusiasts it's only like 9 oz with the sheath and super durable and wrapped in nylon rope... oooh best knife ever!

http://www.buysellcommunity.com/sale/JXEFUCPY/


i like this one too:cool:neo

http://www.majorsurplusandsurvival.com/

Glacier Bay Tactical Knife


http://www.majorsurplus.com/Assets/images/items/036118.jpg

jhick
06-23-2008, 12:21
Plenty of people carry impractical items on the trail... musical instruments, whatever. Sure you could get away without it, as you can get away without a map and compass but would you be more comfortable/happy with it??? IMO, the knife is not too big or bulky to be considered for trail use if you want to carry it.
Depending on where I go and if I'm alone, I carry one of these.
http://www.rei.com/product/752020
Makes a great deterrent to 'unfriendly types' and can easily be put in your pack when you go into town.

leeki pole
06-23-2008, 12:24
real men always carry a knife...even to work...i'd rather forget my wallet than my swiss camper...

Panzer1
06-23-2008, 12:29
You only need a medium size swiss army knife, weight about 3 ounces or so,
and also a white plastic lexan table knife to make sandwiches and cut food weighing about half ounce or so.

Panzer

ps If I was to carry a knife for self defense, which I don't any more, I would carry a folding lockblade because it can be kept in your pants pocket and no one will know you have it until you pull it out. You can find good and big light weight ones for around 3 ounces.

deeddawg
06-23-2008, 12:31
please help me prove her wrong (or me) by the way for those weight enthusiasts it's only like 9 oz with the sheath and super durable and wrapped in nylon rope... oooh best knife ever!

Turn the question around. What benefit do you gain from that knife that a 1 ounce Schrade SS1 (http://www.equipped.org/pp/pic843.htm) won't provide? In other words, what do you get for those extra eight ounces?

Blade is about 2 inches, frame-lock, and a ball/detent prevents it from opening unexpectedly.

bigmac_in
06-23-2008, 12:35
i like this one too:cool:neo

http://www.majorsurplusandsurvival.com/

Glacier Bay Tactical Knife


http://www.majorsurplus.com/Assets/images/items/036118.jpg

Neo - your level of interest in this subject leaves me a bit worried. :D :D

Dakota_
06-23-2008, 13:10
If you enjoy hiking with it, take it. It is hard to say what is "practical" for a person. Practical can mean it keeps a sharp blade for 6 months or a it is good size or good weight?

Keep in mind the ounces add-up and the lighter the load the easier on the trail.

Also, when you hike around people you may want to tuck a big knife away in your pack, some people are sensitive to big knives and either freak out when they see it or give you a lecture on how you don't "need" it.

I love my Kabar and its long blade but decided to forgo carrying it to save the weight. I'm carrying a lighter folding knife that still has a long 3.5" blade. I have never needed the little tools in the swiss knife or leatherman tool. A good blade works for me. I'm tempted to really save weight and take a small razor blade.

One idea is to start the hike without the 9 oz knife to make your load lighter then a month or so later, when you have your trail legs, have the knife or other items mailed to you if you still want them.

I may do this with my 7 oz water filter. I will start off with 1 oz drops/tablets then if I still want my filter, have it mailed to me later. I love my filter but don't want to start of with the weight. I'm trying to get my pack weight down to 16 lbs.

Dakota_
06-23-2008, 13:12
Meant to write, 16 lbs base weight which doesn't include food or water.

WalkingStick75
06-23-2008, 13:44
Nice knife but too big, too heavy for the AT type use. Personally the nights I have run into somebody hiking with a knife such as that would be a night that I would stealth camp.

DesertMTB
06-23-2008, 13:55
Might give you a neat trailname: Rambo

neo
06-23-2008, 14:10
ray jardine an ultralite backpacking icon carries a sheaf knife.:cool:neo

http://www.ray-way.com/Knife-Kit/index.htm


http://www.ray-way.com/Knife-Kit/Sheath-Kit/index.htm

Homer&Marje
06-23-2008, 14:40
Ok... Good info thank you. As the man in the family i will come the the conclusion that the findings are as inconclusive as they are broad. It was posted what do i gain from the knife. I use this knife everyday. on the trail and off. I use it in my kitchen to cut veggies, debone chicken and various other things, kittens not included, i use it to till the soil in my veggie garden and if you've ever tilled massachusetts soil, well, you know. I chop firewood with it on the trail it can split most small dead trees with ease, larger logs require some type of hammer force ie: another log, or my hard head. It is wrapped in nylon rope that can be easily removed, used for many things. And most importantly as a knife enthusiast vs the gun enthusiast, when the fighting gets rough marines don their bayonets and my walking stick with my 8 inch blade is a good substitute. But seriously Happy Trails, No violence just good food, good people, and a good fire. All which can be acquired by using my knife.:welcome

notorius tic
06-23-2008, 14:52
No i carried a Browning #223 Expedition on my hike, An had many a dinner Wildlife wise with it.. It did not weight me down fore it was straped to my leg.. Plus I felt comffey carrring it 4 I have on my leg 4 15 years plus..<:

Bob S
06-23-2008, 14:56
I would carry it if you feel comfortable with it. I have the biggest Swiss Army knife and I’m sure many here would say it’s way too heavy. But I like it and use it every day for numerous things, in my mind it’s worth having.


One thing nice about a fixed blade knife is that they are easy to keep clean when you use them for food. A folding knife has all kinds of areas that food (bacteria) can get stuck in and are much harder to clean & sanitary.

Homer&Marje
06-23-2008, 15:04
One thing nice about a fixed blade knife is that they are easy to keep clean when you use them for food. A folding knife has all kinds of areas that food (bacteria) can get stuck in and are much harder to clean & sanitary. [/quote]

Good point. Because i sleep with my knife! Like a cold steel teddy bear mmmm good dreams under the stars:D

winger
06-23-2008, 15:24
If you must carry a fixed blade then there are plenty of lighter knives.
Also, there are folders that are easily disassembled for cleaning, check out Strider or Kershaw ZT knives. As someone pointed out above regarding gun weights, my Ruger 380 weighs only 9 oz, fully loaded.

Homer&Marje
06-23-2008, 15:39
If your ruger weighs 9 oz then my estimates are way off... haven't weighed the knife but it feels about half a pound.. i guess theres no way to find out.

gaga
06-23-2008, 15:44
My wife saw the post earlier about sheeth knives and believes my knife is too big and un-practical... please help me prove her wrong (or me) by the way for those weight enthusiasts it's only like 9 oz with the sheath and super durable and wrapped in nylon rope... oooh best knife ever!

http://www.buysellcommunity.com/sale/JXEFUCPY/

well, you don't need a big knife for a thru -2175 Miles,but for a section hike...it`s up to you, check this out Number 3193 http://www.bafknifeworks.com/huntinginventory.htm

Valmet
06-25-2008, 14:59
I have a old Buck caper knife. It is a fixed blade but the size of a folding knife. I don't know the weight but it is very lite. They don't make them and if you find one it is pretty expensive. The blade is about 2 1/2 or 3 inches. It was the 116 model. Cut carry what you want, it is your back that carries the weight and no one else.

jaywalke
06-25-2008, 15:10
You must bear the weight of your iniquities, my son. :) If it makes you happy, take it, but I've never needed a knife that size on the AT. I carry a Wenger Teton swiss army knife with a locking main blade, or if I'm feeling gram-weeny, a swiss army Classic.

I ran into a hiker in NC who insisted that the weight of his big ol' sheath
knife didn't matter because it was on his BELT rather than in his PACK. Someone was snoozing during physics class, I think.

Homer&Marje
06-25-2008, 17:12
hated physics never understood it, and it hangs from my "sternum Strap" that makes the physics irrelevent right?? And maybe it's just that i am a large guy but it feels super light to me, but super light to me is under a pound... never been gram weary unless its in a bag

rafe
06-25-2008, 20:13
W.T.F., pack it along. I predict you'll send it home within the first few weeks of your hike. There's simply no need for a knife like that on the AT.

Homer&Marje
06-25-2008, 20:26
absolutely no way. I love my knives... mostly i collect decorative ones but all of them are my babies. And that one is my oldest, my first knife that i proclaimed, wow, that will cut a lot o s^%$. And it has. And it will. And it will never be sent in a box unless i lose mine and have to order a new one. But all opinions validated.

My friend Barry once said, "You left home 'without' your knife, that was the first mistake, the second, you told me and I have mine"