View Full Version : Remnants of Tropical Storm Fay
Right now, it is pissing down rain here in Chattanooga, and has been since last night. The forecast calls for this storm system to move up the Appalachians and deliver some much needed heavy rain to an area hard hit by drought.
I pity the fool who is out there hiking in the mountains today, because they are going to be awfully soggy. But the mountains are beautiful in the rain. So who's the fool? Probably me, sitting behind a keyboard. :o
I'd be interested to know what the weather is like today in Western NC, NE Tennessee, North Georgia, and SW Virginia.
It looks as if they're getting some of what we're getting in Charlotte:
http://www.wsoctv.com/weather/index.html
Which is great!!!
Pedaling Fool
08-26-2008, 10:33
That's good to hear, hopefully hurricane Gustav, now in the carribbean, will also do the AT.
That's good to hear, hopefully hurricane Gustav, now in the carribbean, will also do the AT.
Watch what you ask for. Even when these storms lose steam over land, they can be very damaging at elevation. Winds can be nasty, and rain can be torrential. Ivan was a nightmare in the Appalachians a few years ago.
Jan LiteShoe
08-26-2008, 10:40
It looks as if they're getting some of what we're getting in Charlotte:
http://www.wsoctv.com/weather/index.html
Which is great!!!
Cats and dogs here, two-and-a-half hours east of Charlotte!
:):sun
Lone Wolf
08-26-2008, 10:44
Cats and dogs here, two-and-a-half hours east of Charlotte!
:):sun
good cuz a big group of us is comin' to pinehurst next week for 5 days of golf. greens will nice and soft :)
Bulldawg
08-26-2008, 11:00
Just a tick over 5 inches over the last 36 hours in NE GA, 20 miles southeast of the AT. Under flash flood warnings since yesterday morning.
Pedaling Fool
08-26-2008, 11:09
Watch what you ask for. Even when these storms lose steam over land, they can be very damaging at elevation. Winds can be nasty, and rain can be torrential. Ivan was a nightmare in the Appalachians a few years ago.
I imagine you get a number of fallen trees with a torrential down-pour, even without the winds. Did any area, you know of, experience a mud-slide during Ivan or any other significant storm? (Not including the recent one on Moody Mtn in Maine).
leeki pole
08-26-2008, 11:14
good cuz a big group of us is comin' to pinehurst next week for 5 days of golf. greens will nice and soft :)
Don't miss #2. Awesome track. Just get ready to hit fairway metals into par fours, unless you can bomb the driver. Man, I'm jealous.:D You break 90 from the tips, I'll buy the beer.
Captain Slider
08-26-2008, 11:14
Going to Damascus this weekend.. low gap to Damascus... what should I expect for rain.??
Did any area, you know of, experience a mud-slide during Ivan or any other significant storm? (Not including the recent one on Moody Mtn in Maine).
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/20/national/20cove.html
A whole community was wiped out in Franklin, NC - with significant loss of life. Very sad.
berninbush
08-26-2008, 11:18
Glad to hear the rain is finally going where it's wanted and needed. I hope this helps end the drought. :) (I know it won't completely, but it should help.)
Gustav looks to be headed more west, at this point. But Fay's a good reminder that predictions mean nothing. :rolleyes: Crazy storm.
Jan LiteShoe
08-26-2008, 11:20
good cuz a big group of us is comin' to pinehurst next week for 5 days of golf. greens will nice and soft :)
Ha ha - we're going to Virginia (the Highlands) for Labor day!
But I'll bet there will be some overlap.
Send me an email and I'll give you our number. Meet you for breakfast at Mac's for a bacon-fest.
:sun
I imagine you get a number of fallen trees with a torrential down-pour, even without the winds. Did any area, you know of, experience a mud-slide during Ivan or any other significant storm? (Not including the recent one on Moody Mtn in Maine).
There were some collapsed side-hill trail sections in the Nantahala after Frances and Ivan. Nothing huge, but it took some engineering by the trail clubs to fix them.
Blowdowns are usually the big issue. After Frances, the access trail to Blue Mtn. Shelter was completely obscured by blowdowns. Even the tree that had the sign pointing to the shelter was down. It looked as if a small twister had gone through.
There were some collapsed side-hill trail sections in the Nantahala after Frances and Ivan. Nothing huge, but it took some engineering by the trail clubs to fix them.
In the Nantahala, more than $40 million was spent fixing roads that washed out or collapsed.
Pedaling Fool
08-26-2008, 11:30
There were some collapsed side-hill trail sections in the Nantahala after Frances and Ivan. Nothing huge, but it took some engineering by the trail clubs to fix them.
Blowdowns are usually the big issue. After Frances, the access trail to Blue Mtn. Shelter was completely obscured by blowdowns. Even the tree that had the sign pointing to the shelter was down. It looked as if a small twister had gone through.
Now that I think about it, I remember seeing (in 2007) what looked like a mud-slide as I was blue-blazing into NOC (NOBO), if I remember it was at the end of the blueblaze trail that took you to a road/small neighborhood you walked down before getting to a gas/convience store at US 19 (a little east of NOC).
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nc/nwis/current/?type=precip&group_key=county_cd
Similar page available for Georgia.
mtnkngxt
08-26-2008, 12:01
I can confirm that it is wet in SW VA. Wise county got a good drenching this morning, and it is still sprinkling.
In the Nantahala, more than $40 million was spent fixing roads that washed out or collapsed.
Yes, I failed to mention that, for instance, the Forest Service roads into Deep Gap were closed for months. The Trail held up very well, compared to the roads. You could still walk the AT, but you could not drive near it by some of the usual approaches.
Blissful
08-26-2008, 12:39
Can't wait - it's so dry here. About time.
Pretty steady rain here near WInston Salem
WOW...now it's teaming!!!!! I'm gonna go get the candles out!
Tipi Walter
08-26-2008, 14:28
I can't remember the last time I slept out in an all-night rain but last night I was down at my Chickasaw Creek basecamp and slept like a dead possum atop a firm thermarest and under a light blanket. Inside a big Cabelas 12x12 tent:
Richard Snider
08-26-2008, 16:55
I'm in Central VA near the south entrance of the SNP and it's dry now but the rain is coming Wednesday & Thursday
That's good to hear, hopefully hurricane Gustav, now in the carribbean, will also do the AT.
Yeah, but via the east coast not through Fla. Home owners ins. os already about to kill us. No offence but the eastern seaboard is due.
leeki pole
08-26-2008, 17:02
Yeah, but via the east coast not through Fla. Home owners ins. os already about to kill us. No offence but the eastern seaboard is due.
Tell me about it. Katrina made our premium go up 100% this year and we're 250 miles inland!
Rain Man
08-26-2008, 17:12
I'd be interested to know what the weather is like today in Western NC, NE Tennessee, North Georgia, and SW Virginia.
You didn't ask about middle Tennessee, but I'll tell you the weathermen and women tell us we've had the driest August in 60 years. So, thank goodness for some rain at last! Hasn't been too heavy, but has showered several days now.
Last year I lost five trees in my yard alone to the drought. So, I'm very thankful for this rain, and like Mowgli, am wondering what I'm doing sitting at a keyboard.
Rain:sunMan
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hopefulhiker
08-26-2008, 17:16
Record Rainfall in Charlotte, more to come....
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/local/story/151288.html
Pedaling Fool
08-26-2008, 18:33
Yeah, but via the east coast not through Fla. Home owners ins. os already about to kill us. No offence but the eastern seaboard is due.
In this area State Farm dropped everyone (including me) that lives within 1 mile of the ocean.
##$%@@&* SOBs.:sun
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CrumbSnatcher
08-26-2008, 18:52
Watch what you ask for. Even when these storms lose steam over land, they can be very damaging at elevation. Winds can be nasty, and rain can be torrential. Ivan was a nightmare in the Appalachians a few years ago.
i believe it was hurricane floyd in 99' i had to make my way down to pinkham notch in the 2nd heaviest rain i ever hiked in. hikers from all over converged on gorham NH. it rained heavy and steady for a week. most zero'd the whole week.
Hammock Hanger
08-26-2008, 19:01
Fay is just a memory for us... Today was the first day w/o rain in well over a week. The water is beginning to recede.
I sat on the back patio for a while around 2 am Thursday night/morning and watched the trees sway, the rain come in buckets and listen to the howl of the wind. Sweet!
I love storms. (They make me sing.)
mtnkngxt
08-26-2008, 19:45
Went to class today and forgot I'd left my sunroof open on my car. I came back to a swimming pool. Luckily I drilled drain holes in the floor because this is definetly not the first time I've done this, and it didnt kill my fuse block again. Woohoo for soggy carpet and seats.
Dances with Mice
08-26-2008, 20:10
Fay is just a memory for us... Today was the first day w/o rain in well over a week. The water is beginning to recede.The Govenor of Georgia has authrorized the temporary release of more water from Lake Lanier to send down to y'all.
Who says Georgia and Florida don't try to get along?
Hammock Hanger
08-26-2008, 20:12
The Govenor of Georgia has authrorized the temporary release of more water from Lake Lanier to send down to y'all.
Who says Georgia and Florida don't try to get along?
I thought GA NEEDED water?
The www.wunderground.com (http://www.wunderground.com) weather website's local radar shows "Total Precipitation" of 8-10 inches locally in NE GA today.
Definitely not as good trail day for SUL weenies:cool:
Bulldawg
08-26-2008, 21:39
We had some really bad storms this afternoon on the backside of this thing. Several possible tornados. And I just got off the phone with a buddy of mine who is religious about his rain gauge. 11 inches since Sunday night when this started and the last time he checked around 6pm. We had two or three really heavy bands roll through since then. I'd say we are pushing 12 or 13 inches right here 20 miles south of the AT in Georgia.
Gray Blazer
08-26-2008, 22:01
I'm glad you guys are getting the much needed moisture. Pretty ironical that the center of Fay was over Gainesville, FL most of last Friday and we only got about 3 inches at our house.
Bulldawg
08-26-2008, 22:04
Yeah, the last reports I heard they were expecting this rain to raise the levels of Lake Lanier 4 to 6 feet.
Tennessee Viking
08-26-2008, 22:44
Right now, it is pissing down rain here in Chattanooga, and has been since last night. The forecast calls for this storm system to move up the Appalachians and deliver some much needed heavy rain to an area hard hit by drought.
I pity the fool who is out there hiking in the mountains today, because they are going to be awfully soggy. But the mountains are beautiful in the rain. So who's the fool? Probably me, sitting behind a keyboard. :o
I'd be interested to know what the weather is like today in Western NC, NE Tennessee, North Georgia, and SW Virginia.All I can say is thank you Fay for the rain.
Newscasts are calling for possible flooding in the Mt Rogers area, North Carolina Blue Ridge and Cumberland Plateau. Grandfather Mtn area was already under 4 inches of rainfall.
I am just amazed that 10 yrs ago, East Tennessee/Western Carolina was getting too much rain. Now we are in need of it badly.
I just hope it doesn't ruin the Labor Day weekend. I am heading down to the a number of spots of Nantalhala & Chattahoochee AT this weekend.
It is still pouring down out there in Charlotte. Sooooooo good.
In the Nantahala, more than $40 million was spent fixing roads that washed out or collapsed.
I also forgot about the biggie, in terms of damage to the roads:
The Pigeon River rose up and collapsed half of I-40 at about mile marker 4 or 5 in North Carolina. That took a long time, and a lot of money, to repair.
modiyooch
08-27-2008, 07:31
Marta, What was the total rainfall for Charlotte, yesterday? I was in Charlotte last night and had to drive home in it. My rain gauge in Hickory topped out at 5 inches and I think Charlotte may have gotten more.
During my abortive attempt to drive to work, the radio said Charlotte has gotten more than 8 inches of rain so far. They also had a blurb from the National Weather Service saying that the drought is not over yet.
Really?
Basically, I can't get out of the neighborhood by car. Apparently there are downed trees blocking the roads, and flooded roads, such that traffic is backed up for miles. I circled around and came home. I'll try again in a couple of hours.
Time to go out on the screened porch, lie in the hammock, read, and listen to the rain pound down.
IT's raining like crazy here outside of Winston-Salem......it woke me up this morning, and hasn't really let up. KInda cool since I don't actually have to leave today.....
Tipi Walter
08-27-2008, 08:21
Sadly, I spent last night out under clouds but no rain. I guess the fun is over for another 6 months.
Jan LiteShoe
08-27-2008, 09:00
Still soaking it in here. Recharging the groundwater, which is still in drought mode, having drawn down significantly.
Goes right into our sand, so no floods.
:sun
Good day to transplant some broccoli and collards.
Bulldawg
08-27-2008, 10:46
Sadly, I spent last night out under clouds but no rain. I guess the fun is over for another 6 months.
Nah Gustav is in route!!
Blissful
08-27-2008, 13:42
Hurray for rain today. We haven't had anything significant since July 4th.
Yep, most of GA, NC has gotten a good soakin' the last couple of days, significant enough to get that ground water flowing shortly. :)
MyName1sMud
08-27-2008, 16:40
It made it rain here in MS forever.... Finally got us some sunlight today!
Dances with Mice
08-27-2008, 19:39
I live halfway between Atlanta and Springer Mtn. and I got 9 inches.
Of rain at my house.
Hurray for rain today. We haven't had anything significant since July 4th.
is it raining out yer' way? just sprinkling a bit here in suffolk?
I live halfway between Atlanta and Springer Mtn. and I got 9 inches.
Of rain at my house.9 inches? Well you have to envy that here in Upstate SC where we received a more modest amount of rain.:cool:
Tipi Walter
08-27-2008, 20:36
I live halfway between Atlanta and Springer Mtn. and I got 9 inches.
Of rain at my house.
I live halfway between Knoxville and Chattanooga and I only got 6 inches. :-?
Skidsteer
08-27-2008, 21:16
One of our cell tower sites in Charlotte, NC.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01141_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01141_800_x_600.jpg) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01142_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01142_800_x_600.jpg) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01144_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01144_800_x_600.jpg)http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01147_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01147_800_x_600.jpg)
I'd estimate the water depth at four to four and a half feet above the base of the tower. Height of the fence is six feet.
Right now, it is pissing down rain here in Chattanooga, and has been since last night. The forecast calls for this storm system to move up the Appalachians and deliver some much needed heavy rain to an area hard hit by drought.
I pity the fool who is out there hiking in the mountains today, because they are going to be awfully soggy. But the mountains are beautiful in the rain. So who's the fool? Probably me, sitting behind a keyboard. :o
I'd be interested to know what the weather is like today in Western NC, NE Tennessee, North Georgia, and SW Virginia.
I hiked in the rain for 2 days this week. Started yesterday afternoon 40 miles from Pearisburg and was still raining when I got to my truck today. Buckets of rain - the trail was a creek in places.
MyName1sMud
08-27-2008, 23:25
this next one looks like it's gonna be pretty bad
One of our cell tower sites in Charlotte, NC.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01141_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01141_800_x_600.jpg) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01142_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01142_800_x_600.jpg) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01144_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01144_800_x_600.jpg)http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01147_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01147_800_x_600.jpg)
I'd estimate the water depth at four to four and a half feet above the base of the tower. Height of the fence is six feet.
Nice photos.
But remember, the official line is that the drought is not over!:rolleyes:
Two Speed
08-28-2008, 08:08
One of our cell tower sites in Charlotte, NC . . . Sooo, did ya get cited for any erosion control violations? :p
Tipi Walter
08-28-2008, 08:14
One of our cell tower sites in Charlotte, NC.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01141_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01141_800_x_600.jpg) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01142_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01142_800_x_600.jpg) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01144_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01144_800_x_600.jpg)http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01147_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01147_800_x_600.jpg)
I'd estimate the water depth at four to four and a half feet above the base of the tower. Height of the fence is six feet.
It's good to see that old Momma Nature can still pick her targets well . . .
It's good to see that old Momma Nature can still pick her targets well . . .
I don't often laugh out loud at a post here on WB... :p And this comes from a former 19 year employee of Verizon. :banana
Skidsteer
08-28-2008, 09:16
It's good to see that old Momma Nature can still pick her targets well . . .
I don't often laugh out loud at a post here on WB... :p And this comes from a former 19 year employee of Verizon. :banana
That type of tower is particularly ugly if you ask me. Notice that the pole is brown?
It's supposed to be disguised as a tree. They call it a 'monopine'.
They don't quite pull it off though. These monopines generally stand 150' taller than the surrounding trees.
Pedaling Fool
08-28-2008, 09:38
One of our cell tower sites in Charlotte, NC.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01141_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01141_800_x_600.jpg) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01142_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01142_800_x_600.jpg) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01144_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01144_800_x_600.jpg)http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/th_DSC01147_800_x_600.jpg (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/Flooded%20tower%20site/DSC01147_800_x_600.jpg)
I'd estimate the water depth at four to four and a half feet above the base of the tower. Height of the fence is six feet.
What's the estimated cost to repair? Seems like this facility was put in a hole, don't they normally go on high ground?
Skidsteer
08-28-2008, 18:36
What's the estimated cost to repair?
No idea yet. Probably a bunch. The tower, fence, grounding and compound will likely be fine after dry-up but I suspect all radio equipment, power and telephone demarcs and a few transformers up the line are fried but good.
Seems like this facility was put in a hole, don't they normally go on high ground?
Yep, but there are exceptions. We just build 'em. Somebody else engineers them and those folks don't usually listen to Contractors.
NICKTHEGREEK
08-28-2008, 18:41
That type of tower is particularly ugly if you ask me. Notice that the pole is brown?
It's supposed to be disguised as a tree. They call it a 'monopine'.
They don't quite pull it off though. These monopines generally stand 150' taller than the surrounding trees.
Proof of the realism is the number of beavers with chipped teeth.
Yep, but there are exceptions. We just build 'em. Somebody else engineers them and those folks don't usually listen to Contractors.
I can think of a few parts of the A.T. like that! :)
My GET section was flooded during Ivan and I was cutting driftwood for a year afterwards. (Of course that might happen if the trail is on a Corps of Engineers flood control project. :D)
No idea yet. Probably a bunch. The tower, fence, grounding and compound will likely be fine after dry-up but I suspect all radio equipment, power and telephone demarcs and a few transformers up the line are fried but good.
Yep, but there are exceptions. We just build 'em. Somebody else engineers them and those folks don't usually listen to Contractors.
Are yall putting up the monopine on Hwy 29 just north of Charlotte? I've talked to that contractor, he's from around Cleveland Ga.
As for the flooding, I was at the Doral apartments today. Basically almost everyone that had a ground floor apartment lost everything including quite a few cars.
Those that live in Charlotte have probaly heard of it. The property loss to those already poor people is heartbreaking.
Skidsteer
08-28-2008, 21:45
Are yall putting up the monopine on Hwy 29 just north of Charlotte? I've talked to that contractor, he's from around Cleveland Ga.
Possibly. We're doing a good bit in Charlotte right now but I'm not managing that market so I'm not up on specifics.
Gray Blazer
08-28-2008, 21:50
It's good to see that old Momma Nature can still pick her targets well . . .
Is Mother Nature an eco-terrorist? Seldom Seen would be proud. Hayduke lives!
modiyooch
08-28-2008, 22:19
our remnant is an orphaned squirrel. It must have gotten washed out of the nest. My dog brought it in yesterday morning. It's about 2 inches long and it's eyes are still closed. My oldest son has been feeding it. It's amazing. It better be a squirrel and not a rat.