View Full Version : The "Official" SoRuck 2009 Thread
Its time to get this party started!
January 16-19, 2009
Nantahala Outdoor Center (NOC), Wesser, NC.
Please post here your ideas to make this a bigger and better event than years past.
Also, please post your intentions to attend. Further info on food, lodging and other info will be forthcoming in the near future!
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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/hikertrash/ruck.jpg (http://www.soruck.net)
Mountain Maiden
09-21-2008, 12:42
Cuffs, How good of you to get the excitement started! :banana
I look forward to each SORUCK with great anticipation--the friends, the food, the fun, etc. And, if all goes well (I have given up on 'planning'...) maybe I will even get back there for the great event!
My other prob is that there is so many great activities and so many wonderful friends to see, it is hard to get fit all in such a short time.
In the meantime--looking forward to all the possibilities!
S:sun
Count Gungho and I in!! Can't wait!!! :banana
I should be able to attend as well we'll see how the money holds.
Hey Roots, :bse if you're going I'm going
so count me in
Skidsteer
09-21-2008, 18:29
I'm planning to be there. Looking forward to it.
Doughnut
09-21-2008, 18:47
Count DoughNut in please
planning to be there also!!!:banana
I'm gonna ask for my days off at work tomorrow. Prior Planning Pevents Piss Poor Performance. :eek::rolleyes: Lookin' forward to it, gang! :D:banana
Lone Wolf
09-21-2008, 20:02
I'm gonna ask for my days off at work tomorrow.
me too. i'm skippin' the gathering and all other trail hug fests except SORUCK
Unless some financial crash rocks the household, Sleeps With Skunks and I intend to be there.
does soruck accept yankee participants? :eek:
Flush2wice
09-21-2008, 20:21
I hope to be there, hiking in from Wayah, but it's a last minute thing.
does soruck accept yankee participants? :eek:
Yes, but you must renounce your inherent evilness as said yankee and agree to eat grits and say "y'all" a lot. :D:eek:
Yes, but you must renounce your inherent evilness as said yankee and agree to eat grits and say "y'all" a lot. :D:eek:
I was born in GA and grew up in a border state. That should count for something. :) But, I ain't eating no grits, no how, no way, yuck.
I'm out, too far north.
Kirby
Dances with Mice
09-22-2008, 13:10
does soruck accept yankee participants? :eek:They're tolerated.
LOL.. taking notes and names!
The Solemates
09-22-2008, 13:45
hope to make it, but will have to see how how our schedule looks since we'll also be out for two and a half week over Christmas....going to Hawaii!!!
Bulldawg
09-22-2008, 13:58
The wife and I plan to attend unless something happens between now and then. Things sure are getting tight, so the gas funds will have to be just right.
Yes, but you must renounce your inherent evilness as said yankee and agree to eat grits and say "y'all" a lot. :D:eek:
I'll try to hold off on the you's....
Cookerhiker
09-22-2008, 15:33
Hope to make it along with Scarf but we have some other things going on in January which may conflict.
tatersalad
09-30-2008, 13:27
I'll be there
D'Artagnan
09-30-2008, 15:08
Looking forward to it. It's on my permanent to-do list.
Cuffs, what is it you're drinking these days? I need to stock up before January.
D'Artagnan
10-01-2008, 12:25
Cuffs drinks?
Does the Pope wear funny hats? :D
looking Forward To It. It's On My Permanent To-do List.
Cuffs, What Is It You're Drinking These Days? I Need To Stock Up Before January.
Anything That Pours:d
I'm in! Sly this year I would like my nametag to read Julie/amazonwoman if possible, please.
Thanks
I'm in! Sly this year I would like my nametag to read Julie/amazonwoman if possible, please.
Thanks
Ok, you got it. Just remind me when I start asking for names...
I'm in! Sly this year I would like my nametag to read Julie/amazonwoman if possible, please.
Thanks
I think it should say "Dancer". :D
Ron Haven
10-01-2008, 19:59
Ok, you got it. Just remind me when I start asking for names...Sly,I will help with that shuttle this coming year again to help.
generoll
10-01-2008, 20:38
I think it should say "Dancer". :D
I'm with Roots on this one. After all, aren't trail names traditionally bestowed rather then slected?
Ron Haven
10-02-2008, 00:56
Ron, how far is it from your place to NOC?shortest route is 27 miles.
Chaco Taco
10-02-2008, 07:46
Wak and I will be there. We will be in Asheville so if we can help out in any way, let us know.
Chaco Taco
10-02-2008, 07:47
does soruck accept yankee participants? :eek:
They let Lonewolf continue to show up:D
SouthMark
10-02-2008, 11:51
Never been before but sure hope to make this one providing gas is available and not $6.00 a gallon.
Bluegill
10-02-2008, 17:45
I don't think I will make it this year, but I sure will be thinking about y'all.
Bluegill
Anything That Pours:d
What? You full of it. You must've been seeing things. Cuffs dont drink. Oh wait, thats me! Yea, well, that was a one night show, never to repeat. Sorry if you missed it, it closed with rave reviews!
Two Speed
10-03-2008, 08:18
Might make it up for Friday or Saturday. Sunday's out; got another commitment that takes priority.
little bear
10-12-2008, 15:33
Honeysuckle and I will be there this year......with a new baby boy (Dylan) that should be about 2 weeks old.......break him into the Trail Community in the right way:D
Bulldawg
10-12-2008, 18:16
What's the score on getting somewhere to stay for this thing?
Get a bunkhouse reservation, call NOC directly.
Mother Nature
10-12-2008, 19:09
Smokestack and I will be there. Bringing Mailman'92 for his first SORUCK.
What ya cooking, Dances with Mice?
Any takers for Peppermint Patties and Coconut Candies?
Mother Nature
Werent those at the last ruck? I think I remember hearing rave reviews, but I cannot say I got to sample them!
Dances with Mice
10-12-2008, 19:33
What ya cooking, Dances with Mice?I'm thinking enchiladas, home-made enchilada sauce made with garden tomatoes and peppers, then enchiladas filled with smoked pulled pork.
No peanut butter cups?
Chaco Taco
10-14-2008, 21:55
Honeysuckle and I will be there this year......with a new baby boy (Dylan) that should be about 2 weeks old.......break him into the Trail Community in the right way:D
Cant wait to see you guys there.
Oh yea, my 1000 post, FINALLY. I need to get a job and a life:D
it is getting close. I will be there
Cookerhiker
10-15-2008, 10:29
Smokestack and I will be there. Bringing Mailman'92 for his first SORUCK.
What ya cooking, Dances with Mice?
Any takers for Peppermint Patties and Coconut Candies?
Mother Nature
I remember well those peppermint patties - they're alone worth coming!
Not sure I'm attending and won't know until the last minute because I may be moving around then. If I come, I'll bring my homemade original pumpkin soup again, multi-bean chili, and some homemade dessert.
Bulldawg
11-02-2008, 21:07
So am I reading here that everybody needs to bring something to eat? So what should I make?? Hmmmmm.
Oh yeah, I got with Sly, I think I have a spot reserved.
me toooo, will make my apple dumplins again...
woops, damn i guess i shouldn't have let my membership expire, me tooo = i'll be going too, lol
didn't get to make it to the gathering, but definatly not missing so ruck
Just to let you all know, the NOC has changed it's reservation service. I can't book until the new rates come out and their new service goes online. Folks at the NOC say this will be mid-month and will let me know.
Once everything is confirmed, I'll post back.
Jim Adams
11-03-2008, 14:32
I'll be there with One To Many and probably Tiger Woods.
geek
LOL.. taking notes and names!
Hey Sly - Save a nametag for me please. SoRuck 2007 was my first hiker get-together and I didn't know a single person. Now, you could threaten to fire me and I'd still get my butt to the Ruck. Can't wait to catch up with everyone and meet some new folks excited about the trail!
It can't get here too soon... just 73 days!! :clap
Hey 1Pint! See you in January!
Hey 1Pint! See you in January!
Can't wait to see you & Gung Ho! :D Until then, happy hiking!
I recently spoke with the NOC, still waiting to hear for official reservations, but in the meantime, I've cleared the Google documents for the food for the weekend, and the raffle to benefit the ATC and ALDHA.
So far, I put up the James Hare 2-volume set "Hiking the Appalachian Trail" and Earl Shaffer's coffee table book, The Appalachian Trail: Calling Me Back to the Hills and a couple packs. I'll probably add a bunch of DVD's and some other stuff. If you have anything similar, or good used gear, we can sell as a donation, let me know.
Last year we raise nearly $150 for each organization. I'd like to double that this time and will be offering tickets online via Paypal for those that can't attend, at a later date.
I've updated directions on the website. www.soruck.net (http://www.soruck.net) Click on "How to help"
Thanks
Mr. Parkay
11-07-2008, 15:53
I'll be there with One To Many and probably Tiger Woods.
geek
Awesome, I'll probably be there too
I'll be there with One To Many and probably Tiger Woods.
geek
Awesome, I'll probably be there too
Are you sure he didn't mean Tiger Woodsy?
I haven't seen one too many is years!!!! Man, I can't wait for this thing!!!!!
girlnextdoor
11-09-2008, 10:16
Redwood & I are thinking about it...
Ashley AKA '*****s & Giggles' really wants to go!
rambunny
11-09-2008, 14:15
I'm sure hoping this raskly rabbitt will be there.
God Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
tallfran
11-10-2008, 09:16
I work all weekends now, but I am so putting in for that weekend off so that I can be there. We are only allowed 4 weekends a year off, but I LOVE SoRuck!
I think it should say "Dancer". :D
HAAAA!!!! I haven't been on since I posted last! Just saw this! Maybe I finally have a trail name hehehehe
HAAAA!!!! I haven't been on since I posted last! Just saw this! Maybe I finally have a trail name hehehehe
O....That is SO your new trailname...DANCER!!!:D
I spoke with the NOC yesterday and they're finally taking reservations for 2009. I rented all the cabins and sent an email to those that stayed last year, urging them to get back in touch ASAP.
If anyone would like to be put on a list to try and get in on a cabin please PM me with your real name, trail name and email. Since I pay for the cabins up front, anyone staying in them needs to pay me directly. In the meantime, you could call NOC and reserve a spot in base camp with them, just remember to ask about their refund policy.
If you plan on staying in base camp, you can give them a call Monday during business hours and make reservations.
I urge you to check out the website linked in my sig. I've open to the Google docs for food, contributions to the raffle to benefit the ATC and ALDHA and if you'd like new, or used gear, you'd like to try and sell at the Ruck. Instructions are on the website.
Sly,I will help with that shuttle this coming year again to help.
Thanks Ron!
Someone asked me about getting a cabin with a hot tub and I just noticed something on the NOC website, with it's new online reservation system. Those cabins, with hot tubs, are 1.2 - 2.5 miles away from the main campus. If you'd like one of those, you'll have to call the NOC directly.
P.S. Cuffs is mad at me. What else is new? ;)
Johnny Thunder
11-22-2008, 14:40
I'll be there with One To Many and probably Tiger Woods.
geek
And ever since he's been depressed 'cause life is **** from here on in.
(But it aint braggin' if it's true)
Serial 07
11-22-2008, 14:46
quick q about soruck...i know it's at the NOC, what's the best way to get there via mass transportation? or is anyone coming from the chicago area? i'll do some research, but i was wondering what others have done, bus, train, plane?
papa john
11-22-2008, 14:49
Atlanta or Knoxville are the two closest cities with any real airport. Not sure what Asheville, NC has. There was a bus station in Waynesville, NC, not sure if that is still active though. I would think you'd be able to get a ride from Atlanta or Knoxville pretty easily.
quick q about soruck...i know it's at the NOC, what's the best way to get there via mass transportation? or is anyone coming from the chicago area? i'll do some research, but i was wondering what others have done, bus, train, plane?
Most drive, but I did pick up a friend at the Asheville airport when I was living there. That's the closest airport. Check out flights to Atlanta. Get here by Thursday night and plan on leaving Monday night and I'll give you a ride.
Also, two cars (three people) drove down from Michigan last year. I'm not sure if they're making the trip again.
Ron Haven
11-23-2008, 01:39
Thanks Ron!I enjoy the ruck.Thanks for all you do at it too.:banana
Ron Haven
11-23-2008, 01:48
Atlanta or Knoxville are the two closest cities with any real airport. Not sure what Asheville, NC has. There was a bus station in Waynesville, NC, not sure if that is still active though. I would think you'd be able to get a ride from Atlanta or Knoxville pretty easily.The Waynesville,NC bus station is still working but you are 60+ miles to the NOC.By the way of Robbinsville,NC on 129 is isn't much farther to Knoxville.There you may could hook up with Sgt Rock.
Trillium
11-25-2008, 01:41
P.S. Cuffs is mad at me. What else is new? ;):confused: is it because you don't show a ladies wine & cheese get-together on the schedule?????
I'm thinking about coming but can't commit quite yet; but I'm wondering if you might have a segment on hammocking. I bought one at Trail Days and when I hiked in July, I think I did only a fair job of hanging it. I NEED some help/pointers!!!
Serial, if you can get back here to the D, we might be able to work something out.
:confused: is it because you don't show a ladies wine & cheese get-together on the schedule?????
I'm thinking about coming but can't commit quite yet; but I'm wondering if you might have a segment on hammocking. I bought one at Trail Days and when I hiked in July, I think I did only a fair job of hanging it. I NEED some help/pointers!!!
Serial, if you can get back here to the D, we might be able to work something out.
LoL.. You must mean whine & cheese. Trillium, it'll be good to have you back!
You may want to PM Serial.
Serial 07
11-25-2008, 02:10
i might just be able to...trying to work this all out...thanks for the offer, i appreciate it... :D ...i'll be in touch...
:confused: is it because you don't show a ladies wine & cheese get-together on the schedule?????
I'm thinking about coming but can't commit quite yet; but I'm wondering if you might have a segment on hammocking. I bought one at Trail Days and when I hiked in July, I think I did only a fair job of hanging it. I NEED some help/pointers!!!
Serial, if you can get back here to the D, we might be able to work something out.
I'm sure there will plenty of people there to help you.
Trillium, I'd be happy to pass on anything I know about hammocking. In the mean time, try joining Hammock Forums (http://www.hammockforums.net). If you've got a quetion, post it there. You'll generally have an answer in minutes. Don't forget to tell 'em Hooch sent ya! ;)
Trillium
11-25-2008, 12:18
Thanks Roots & Hooch. I'm trying to work out the logistics. Hope to see you at SoRuck!
I'm just hoping it's a little bit warmer this time; I drive 600 miles south and the weather in 2008 was colder than back home. Sly, see if you can order some warmer weather this year. http://www.spartantailgate.com/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif
Bulldawg
12-01-2008, 21:47
I gotta pay ya Sly, is Thursday going still get my double in Cabin D? Thanks!!
I gotta pay ya Sly, is Thursday going still get my double in Cabin D? Thanks!!
Thursday will be fine. Much after that you may get the distinction of last to pay, or worse, bumped for someone that's waiting. :D
So, who's bringing food? :-?
Bulldawg
12-02-2008, 21:22
So, who's bringing food? :-?
What do you need Sly?
What do you need Sly?
By the looks of it, lots!
I've set up a google doc for some of the things we'll need for the weekend. Check out the spread sheet, there's a few different pages that are tabbed.
Directions and links...
http://www.soruck.net/#How_to_Help
Bulldawg
12-02-2008, 21:36
By the looks of it, lots!
I've set up a google doc for some of the things we'll need for the weekend. Check out the spread sheet, there's a few different pages that are tabbed.
Directions and links...
http://www.soruck.net/#How_to_Help
Done Sly.
Done Sly.
Thanks Bulldawg
Im sure there is bunkhouse space if they call NOC. if anyone vacates a cabin space, Sly has a waiting list and it will be taken immediately.
i am in the bunk house for the first 2 nights, then cabin c for the last night....
Bulldawg
12-03-2008, 12:35
I am just glad to be getting to attend. Many thanks to Sly for helping put the whole thing together. As well as all the others who put forth effort to make this get together fun and informative!!
Dances with Mice
12-03-2008, 20:00
Wait! There's a party in Cabin C? Last year everyone told me the party was on the porch at the Outfitter store. I waited out there in the cold for hours and nobody else showed up.
DWM, that's where you were all weekend? There's obviously some bad intel going 'round. Rumor has it there was sex too but, no one can recall getting any.
Sorry for the mass deletions. I don't want one person that doesn't know what they're talking about ruining the thread or the ruck.
taildragger
12-03-2008, 21:12
Wait! There's a party in Cabin C? Last year everyone told me the party was on the porch at the Outfitter store. I waited out there in the cold for hours and nobody else showed up.
I've heard that the party will actually be at the porch at the Outfitter store this year. You must have been a year early.
warraghiyagey
12-03-2008, 21:15
I've heard that the party will actually be at the porch at the Outfitter store this year. You must have been a year early.
Yup. . . my sources tell me that information is correct
DWM, that's where you were all weekend? There's obviously some bad intel going 'round. Rumor has it there was sex too but, no one can recall getting any.
Oh, I did........lot's of it.:rolleyes: Gotta keep warm when You're sleeping in a car out front of cabin C;)
Dances with Mice
12-03-2008, 21:42
I've heard that the party will actually be at the porch at the Outfitter store this year. You must have been a year early.Oh, well ok then. But this year I'm only waiting for everyone until 2AM.
Then I'm going over to look in Wonder's vehicle.
vonfrick
12-03-2008, 22:13
in light of recent developments, i think perhaps we will attend. what kinda car you got wonder?
IT was Yuma/Belews. Damn, if I knew y'all wanted to watch I wouldn't have taken everyones advice and gotten a room this year.
(awwwww....were celebrating a year at the ruck this year.............)
Bulldawg
12-03-2008, 22:35
IT was Yuma/Belews. Damn, if I knew y'all wanted to watch I wouldn't have taken everyones advice and gotten a room this year.
(awwwww....were celebrating a year at the ruck this year.............)
Awww how sweet, I'm bringing farm fresh brown eggs from my house.
You know, Weary has declared me an egg expert!
Bulldawg
12-03-2008, 22:36
IT was Yuma/Belews. Damn, if I knew y'all wanted to watch I wouldn't have taken everyones advice and gotten a room this year.
(awwwww....were celebrating a year at the ruck this year.............)
Wait, you know, I almost missed it, so y'all are into people watching? I just can't roll like that!!:eek::eek:
Awww how sweet, I'm bringing farm fresh brown eggs from my house.
You know, Weary has declared me an egg expert!
Would these be Orpingtons by chance? I had some a few years ago and want to get them again so I can have fresh eggs again!
Bulldawg
12-03-2008, 22:41
Would these be Orpingtons by chance? I had some a few years ago and want to get them again so I can have fresh eggs again!
No, I had Orps two years ago, I have Rhode Island Red X White Leghorn crosses and Aracunas now. The Aracunas lay blue eggs, but some people are just freaked out by that.
Orps are prolific layers though, wish I had them this season.
No, I had Orps two years ago, I have Rhode Island Red X White Leghorn crosses and Aracunas now. The Aracunas lay blue eggs, but some people are just freaked out by that.
Orps are prolific layers though, wish I had them this season.
Araucanas! The easter egg chicks! Love 'em! I learned Orps will lay 1 egg every 26 hours! I gave away dozens every week! We'll talk more at ruck!
Bulldawg
12-03-2008, 22:56
I don't have green layers though. Mine are a more pinkish brown hue. I can definitely tell the difference in the cross hen's eggs and the Araucunas, but mine aren't green or blue, not yet anyway. All of them are not laying yet.
taildragger
12-03-2008, 23:16
I don't have green layers though. Mine are a more pinkish brown hue. I can definitely tell the difference in the cross hen's eggs and the Araucunas, but mine aren't green or blue, not yet anyway. All of them are not laying yet.
So, chicken bbq?
Dances with Mice
12-04-2008, 07:30
And as far as activities at the SoRuck go, we could use better instruction on snipe hunting. I mean no offense to the folks who organized last year's hunt but I didn't catch a thing. Maybe the snipe were scared away by the rustling of the nylon bag? I had time to consider the whole process and I'll bet cotton or burlap bags were traditionally used.
Thanks to Ron for giving me the ride out to the hunt, though. That was nice. I would have been really tired if I had to walk 5 miles both ways.
And as far as activities at the SoRuck go, we could use better instruction on snipe hunting. I mean no offense to the folks who organized last year's hunt but I didn't catch a thing. Maybe the snipe were scared away by the rustling of the nylon bag? I had time to consider the whole process and I'll bet cotton or burlap bags were traditionally used.
Thanks to Ron for giving me the ride out to the hunt, though. That was nice. I would have been really tired if I had to walk 5 miles both ways.
yes, but did you walk 5 miles while hunting snipe? that is the question.
D'Artagnan
12-04-2008, 09:47
DWM, are you bringing your terra cotta smoker again this year? That was some awesome BBQ!
And as far as activities at the SoRuck go, we could use better instruction on snipe hunting. I mean no offense to the folks who organized last year's hunt but I didn't catch a thing. Maybe the snipe were scared away by the rustling of the nylon bag? I had time to consider the whole process and I'll bet cotton or burlap bags were traditionally used.
Thanks to Ron for giving me the ride out to the hunt, though. That was nice. I would have been really tired if I had to walk 5 miles both ways.
Dang, I knew I left too early last year, I love a good snipe hunt. I'll be sure to bring my dog this year, she flush um out of the brush and right into the bag.
DWM- more traditional methods are better when it comes to snipe hunting, burlap over nylon anytime and a good string to tie the top of the bag will do just fine. Baiting the hunt area with sunflower seeds doesn't hurt your odds of getting your limit either
Now, I heard that Snipe populations were down due to an invastion of the northern species the "Mince" They're a spry creature, but go great in a pie!
Now, I heard that Snipe populations were down due to an invastion of the northern species the "Mince" They're a spry creature, but go great in a pie!
I know Mince are scarce around the holiday season. The little creatures wiped out a crop of reindeer grain I had growing two seasons ago. I never did bag one, so no pie for me. ;)
I got lucky, my dad bagged one in PA right before thanksgiving......tenderized it up with a bottle of rum and stuck it in a pie............MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm
Is anyone attending the ruck proficient in cow tipping? I think this is a neat thing I would like to learn so that when hiking thru pastures and such I would be abld to just push them big ole bulls outta the way!
sheepdog
12-04-2008, 11:34
Is anyone attending the ruck proficient in cow tipping? I think this is a neat thing I would like to learn so that when hiking thru pastures and such I would be abld to just push them big ole bulls outta the way!
That would be bull tipping Cuffs.:D
That would be bull tipping Cuffs.:D
Are you telling me these are two different skill sets? These are not the same thing? I have more to learn!
Flush2wice
12-04-2008, 12:04
So, chicken bbq?
I can bring some roosters.
Dances with Mice
12-04-2008, 12:23
Last year I was lucky enough to win the door prize drawing held every evening! I could hardly believe my luck! But each time the prize was the same - to be chief pot scrubber in the kitchen after supper.
I appreciated the honor but maybe this year can we have different prizes?
Two Speed
12-04-2008, 12:24
Last year I was lucky enough to win the door prize drawing held every evening! I could hardly believe my luck! But each time the prize was the same - to be chief pot scrubber in the kitchen after supper.
I appreciated the honor but maybe this year can we have different prizes?Mmmm, no, not as long as you're playing.
I got lucky, my dad bagged one in PA right before thanksgiving......tenderized it up with a bottle of rum and stuck it in a pie............MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm
:eek: tenderized too, I'm so jealous.
Hmmmmm, I wonder if KK has mince donuts? :-?
Dances with Mice
12-04-2008, 12:28
Mmmm, no, not as long as you're playing.I don't even remember entering the contest. It's almost as if everybody signed my name on their ticket.
Two Speed
12-04-2008, 12:31
Well, some of us hang around where they get "prizes" from their buddies, whereas I'm taking the simple precaution of showing up for a day, then beating feet for a stealth campsite. :sun
vonfrick
12-04-2008, 13:02
Last year I was lucky enough to win the door prize drawing held every evening! I could hardly believe my luck! But each time the prize was the same - to be chief pot scrubber in the kitchen after supper.
I appreciated the honor but maybe this year can we have different prizes?
might i suggest a colored assortment of wire ties?
Dances with Mice
12-04-2008, 13:52
might i suggest a colored assortment of wire ties?You should write that as "wire ties of color".
Two Speed
12-04-2008, 13:53
might i suggest a colored assortment of wire ties?
You should write that as "wire ties of color".Oh, snap!
Not. DWM, are you trying to compete with wargy for dork status or something?
Bulldawg
12-04-2008, 13:55
I can procure the assorted color wire tie assortment today!!
Two Speed
12-04-2008, 13:56
I can procure the assorted color wire tie assortment today!!I knew you'd come around to cultural diversity . . . or come out of the closet on that. :p
vonfrick
12-04-2008, 14:32
Not. DWM, are you trying to compete with wargy for dork status or something?
so what's the prize for being the biggest dork?
taildragger
12-04-2008, 14:33
Is anyone attending the ruck proficient in cow tipping? I think this is a neat thing I would like to learn so that when hiking thru pastures and such I would be abld to just push them big ole bulls outta the way!
Nah, but if you got some buffalo, I might be drunk enough, I mean game...
taildragger
12-04-2008, 14:56
so what's the prize for being the biggest dork?
The back of someones fist
Cool AT Breeze
12-04-2008, 16:17
so what's the prize for being the biggest dork?
He's all ready won it. He gets to sleep with you.
You should write that as "wire ties of color".
Was in Depot. Saw some 48" plastic wire ties. 36", too. Thought of you.
so what's the prize for being the biggest dork?
They have to sleep with Warrghy:D:D:D
Clyde
Dances with Mice
12-04-2008, 19:34
so what's the prize for being the biggest dork?Is it a TOS violation to ask for clarification if you mean being one or having one?
vonfrick
12-04-2008, 20:03
:p hi everybody!
so what's the prize for being the biggest dork?
Vonfrick?
warraghiyagey
12-05-2008, 01:34
You guys all make me funny:p:):D:sun
sorry Warrghy but I think you are a self-made man
Digger'02
12-09-2008, 10:28
I think there will be a work trip scheduled with the NHC.. More details to follow
warraghiyagey
12-09-2008, 10:34
me too. i'm skippin' the gathering and all other trail hug fests except SORUCK
Shoulda hugged Wolf more when I had the chance. His coffee was good though. . .
I just got a confirmation email, Gene Espy has agreed to a talk on Sat. afternoon. Cool.
http://www.geneespyhiker.com/
Bulldawg
12-13-2008, 21:15
I just got a confirmation email, Gene Espy has agreed to a talk on Sat. afternoon. Cool.
http://www.geneespyhiker.com/
Nice work Sly.
I just got a confirmation email, Gene Espy has agreed to a talk on Sat. afternoon. Cool.
http://www.geneespyhiker.com/
I heard him speak at Amicalola. Very interesting guy. WTG Sly!!!
Farr Away
12-13-2008, 23:26
quietly and I are trying to work this out. If we can make it, this'll be our first ruck!
Farr Away
12-17-2008, 17:35
It's confirmed! quietly and I will be at the Ruck this time.
We have reserved Riverstone Cabin for Friday and Saturday night. http://www.noc.com/index.php/riverstone-cabins.html If anyone needs a place to stay, the cabin has two bedrooms, and we'd be willing to 'sublet' the double. Our total for the cabin for the two nights is $422.54; make us an offer. :D
It's confirmed! quietly and I will be at the Ruck this time.
We have reserved Riverstone Cabin for Friday and Saturday night. http://www.noc.com/index.php/riverstone-cabins.html If anyone needs a place to stay, the cabin has two bedrooms, and we'd be willing to 'sublet' the double. Our total for the cabin for the two nights is $422.54; make us an offer. :D
Damn, that's high $$. but it looks like an awesome Cabin. I'll add you two to the name tag list.
Farr Away
12-18-2008, 10:40
Damn, that's high $$. but it looks like an awesome Cabin. I'll add you two to the name tag list.
Yes, it's high dollar, but we were late to the party and wanted to make sure we had a place to stay. If we can split the costs with someone else, great. If not, split between the two of us, it's not completely outrageous, and we'll have a place to cook our contributions to the weekend.
Speaking of contributions to the weekend. This may be a stupid question, but how many people should we be planning on? I looked through last year's thread, and it said 150. Looking at the lists, it doesn't look like anything is close to feeding that many. Does that mean that basically everything is still needed?
Yes, much is still needed. I'm going to bring more, but waiting for others to sign up first. It's getting close folks, sign up....
Speaking of contributions to the weekend. This may be a stupid question, but how many people should we be planning on? I looked through last year's thread, and it said 150. Looking at the lists, it doesn't look like anything is close to feeding that many. Does that mean that basically everything is still needed?
There's usually 100-125 there at any one time. I deleted last years food contributions (I should have saved before) but if 30-40 people bring something that usually enough. I don't think anyone has ever gone hungry. Of course, those that don't bring anything shouldn't expect to eat. ;)
Got a new presentation for Saturday afternoon, Jennifer Pharr Davis.
http://www.blueridgehikingco.com/index.html
Got a new presentation for Saturday afternoon, Jennifer Pharr Davis.
http://www.blueridgehikingco.com/index.html
cool. does that mean warren's coming? they are buds.
cool. does that mean warren's coming? they are buds.
I don't know. WD came a couple years ago and did a presentation. Something for everybody.
Were you serious when you said you'd be camping? I'll make you a nametag.
Were you serious when you said you'd be camping? I'll make you a nametag.
I wish I could come, but it looks like I am camping with the scouts that weekend. Different kind of fun. :cool:
Thanks anyway Sly.
sheepdog
12-19-2008, 10:26
Is there any bunkhouse space if I decide to come at the last minute?
Is there any bunkhouse space if I decide to come at the last minute?
I think you need to call the NOC directly about bunkhouse berths.
sheepdog
12-19-2008, 10:46
I think you need to call the NOC directly about bunkhouse berths.
Thanks
ofthearth
12-19-2008, 11:04
Yes, much is still needed. I'm going to bring more, but waiting for others to sign up first. It's getting close folks, sign up....
I was thinking the same thing. Wonder if others are/were doing the same thing? :eek:
I've counted 15 different people signed up on the food list, not very good. Hopefully, after Christmas will have more. In that spirit, and feeling a little bit like Santa Claus, the 1st 40 people that sign up, and bring something substantial, meaning not just a bag of chips, get a Wildflower & Scarlet CDT DVD.
(one per family)
Also, I have 4 single beds available in Cabin C for Sunday night. Only $22.50 First come, 1st serve.
Bulldawg
12-23-2008, 18:54
Woo Hoo, so glad I've already signed up!!!! Let's go folks. I'm looking forward to eating like a pig!!
I've counted 15 different people signed up on the food list, not very good. Hopefully, after Christmas will have more. In that spirit, and feeling a little bit like Santa Claus, the 1st 40 people that sign up, and bring something substantial, meaning not just a bag of chips, get a Wildflower & Scarlet CDT DVD.
(one per family)
Also, I have 4 single beds available in Cabin C for Sunday night. Only $22.50 First come, 1st serve.
i'm in on the food, just give me a bit to figure out what.
Maybe people who bring food get stars on their name tags, and get to be at the front of the chow line?
If the food runs out, the folks who couldn't be bothered to sign up, lose?
Maybe people who bring food get stars on their name tags, and get to be at the front of the chow line?
Better yet, people who bring food get to eat! :D ;)
generoll
12-23-2008, 20:53
Sly, I'm not coming until Saturday night. I'm planning on waiting to see what your short of and then bringing whatever.
Better yet, people who bring food get to eat! :D ;)
Yep, works for me.
Bulldawg
12-23-2008, 23:48
Maybe people who bring food get stars on their name tags, and get to be at the front of the chow line?
If the food runs out, the folks who couldn't be bothered to sign up, lose?
Better yet, people who bring food get to eat! :D ;)
Sounds like a fabulous plan. Sly, did my Shrimp and Grits for Friday night show up on the spreadsheet?
OK folks, I'm taking names!
Counting the people doing presentations, I have 25 on the list for a Wildflower & Scarlett DVD. That's leaves 15 available for signing up on the food list. I'll also have a few for the raffle, if you're a little late.
(too many list, too little time)
I've also updated the website...
(check it out)
OK folks, I'm taking names!
Counting the people doing presentations, I have 25 on the list for a Wildflower & Scarlett DVD. That's leaves 15 available for signing up on the food list. I'll also have a few for the raffle, if you're a little late.
(too many list, too little time)
I've also updated the website...
(check it out)
ok, signed up for food. we'll also bring a bedload of wood for the fire.
No Belay
12-24-2008, 18:48
Noticed Gene is speaking on Saturday. Will there be any copies of his book available to buy and get signed? Also I'll be coming in off the trail so I can't offer any groceries but I'd love to make a cash donation to the cause. Anyone collecting?
TaTonka
Noticed Gene is speaking on Saturday. Will there be any copies of his book available to buy and get signed? Also I'll be coming in off the trail so I can't offer any groceries but I'd love to make a cash donation to the cause. Anyone collecting?
TaTonka
I'm Gene sure will have some books on hand. You can see me for a donation. It will be put in the pool towards the ATC and ALDHA.
ok, signed up for food. we'll also bring a bedload of wood for the fire.
That's awesome Kanga! Fire!
Sounds like a fabulous plan. Sly, did my Shrimp and Grits for Friday night show up on the spreadsheet?
Yeah, they did. I don't want to miss out on trying them. :banana
Sly, did my additions to the spreadsheet make it?
Sly, did my additions to the spreadsheet make it?Yes they did but I didn't see any Key Lime pie!
Hey, can people that use Internet Explorer tell me if the new website works OK? The program I used to make it says something about scripts screwing up IE. I applied the new rules once, but couldn't view the video on the home page on my own IE, when I did, so I reverted back. Now, every once in a while, it reminds me to apply the new rules.
It could also be about the menu on the left hand side.
Anyway, any one that has IE can you check it out. Click aroud let me know if everything works.
Thanks
www.soruck.net
worked fine just now.
Thanks. If it's not affecting anyone's browser, I'm done messin' with it.
Farr Away
12-26-2008, 12:41
Looks good Sly. I didn't play the whole movie clip, and didn't follow every outside link, but all the inside stuff worked fine. I'd assume the other would too.
Looks good Sly. I didn't play the whole movie clip, and didn't follow every outside link, but all the inside stuff worked fine. I'd assume the other would too.
Thanks. The program is warning me about the object tag that YouTube uses to embed videos. If it's much more than copy, paste, point, and link, I'm not too knowledgeable.
ofthearth
12-26-2008, 13:27
Everything works on an older mac/ camino browser. Good job:banana:banana
Farr Away
12-26-2008, 14:11
Thanks. The program is warning me about the object tag that YouTube uses to embed videos. If it's much more than copy, paste, point, and link, I'm not too knowledgeable.
I didn't even get the little yellow error triangle in the lower left corner, so whatever the program is telling you, IE isn't having a problem with it.
SouthMark
12-26-2008, 14:24
No problem with Safari (Mac or PC) or Firefox.
Everything works on an older mac/ camino browser. Good job:banana:banana
I didn't even get the little yellow error triangle in the lower left corner, so whatever the program is telling you, IE isn't having a problem with it.
No problem with Safari (Mac or PC) or Firefox.
Thanks. It's a little too technical for me and since it works for you, I'll leave it be.
Waterbuffalo
12-30-2008, 21:31
I'm going to be in that area that weekend how many are coming to the ruck so far?
I'm going to be in that area that weekend how many are coming to the ruck so far?
I have just over 100 on the name tag list. Shall I add you? :sun
sourwood
12-31-2008, 20:53
Sly,
Please remind me of who to call about lodging at base camp. Thanks.
Julie
NorseWoman
01-03-2009, 02:14
I've never been to the Ruck, cause I recently moved to Asheville, but may come just for the day Sat Jan 17.
Is there anything I need to do? such as sign in on Sat morning or bring anything?
Hope to be there Sat., Nana
Sly,
Please remind me of who to call about lodging at base camp. Thanks.
Julie
I believe they're out of the office until Monday 800 232-7238 ext 3 for reservations.
I'll add your name to the name tag list, but you'll have to call the NOC for the base camp .
I've never been to the Ruck, cause I recently moved to Asheville, but may come just for the day Sat Jan 17.
Is there anything I need to do? such as sign in on Sat morning or bring anything?
Hope to be there Sat., Nana
Hi Nana, yeah you should come, it's a good time. It doesn't cost anything except for overnight accommodations, but I'll have a register in the community building. If you're pretty sure of coming I'll add your name to the name tag list.
Also, you may want to check out the website in my sig and click "how to help" if you're interested in bringing any food to share with the group. Just add you name and item to the Google spreadsheet that's also linked.
Awesome site Sly
Thanks. There's more to it then I ever imagined but it's fun learning.
ofthearth
01-03-2009, 09:48
Woo Hoo, so glad I've already signed up!!!! Let's go folks. I'm looking forward to eating like a pig!!
Bulldawg & Lisa it looks like ya'll are doing the main stuff on Sunday morning. I'll be helping Marta with the ovens. What else should/can I bring for Sunday morning to compliment or add to what you're bringing?
ofthearth
NorseWoman
01-04-2009, 21:25
Hey Sly
OK, put my name on the list. Weather permitting I'll be there Saturday
Nana
Bulldawg
01-04-2009, 21:32
Bulldawg & Lisa it looks like ya'll are doing the main stuff on Sunday morning. I'll be helping Marta with the ovens. What else should/can I bring for Sunday morning to compliment or add to what you're bringing?
ofthearth
I'm bringing the groceries, you can volunteer to cook them!!:D:D:welcome
Bulldawg
01-04-2009, 21:35
Sly,
I wonder if you need to put a "Preparation" column on the spreadsheet or are you expecting whoever brings the food to cook it?
ofthearth
01-04-2009, 22:30
Bulldawg & Lisa it looks like ya'll are doing the main stuff on Sunday morning. I'll be helping Marta with the ovens. What else should/can I bring for Sunday morning to compliment or add to what you're bringing?
ofthearth
I'm bringing the groceries, you can volunteer to cook them!!:D:D:welcome
Sly,
I wonder if you need to put a "Preparation" column on the spreadsheet or are you expecting whoever brings the food to cook it?
I obviously misunderstood the spreadsheet.:rolleyes: I'll be helping Marta with the biscuits but would be willing to do what ever else. Original post/offer - I was not sure how much you were bringing or how much was needed and thought you were doing the cooking so would have an idea. Sooooo even if you're not doing the cooking (yet ;)) do you have any idea if more of what is needed?
Lone Wolf
01-04-2009, 22:35
bacon. never enuf bacon. beer too. chips
Cool AT Breeze
01-04-2009, 22:43
bacon. never enuf bacon. beer too. chips
Is that what youre bringing or requesting?
Lone Wolf
01-04-2009, 22:45
i ain't comin'
Cool AT Breeze
01-04-2009, 22:56
Who peed in your corn flakes now?
Lone Wolf
01-04-2009, 23:04
Who peed in your corn flakes now?
ease up. christ. just kiddin' :D
ofthearth
01-04-2009, 23:12
bacon. never enuf bacon. beer too. chips
I offered you a beer and you won't take it:eek:
i ain't comin'
**** that! Who's going to provide the unscheduled entertainment and lead the blueblaze hike? :(
ease up. christ. just kiddin' :D
Oh OK. :D
Sly,
I wonder if you need to put a "Preparation" column on the spreadsheet or are you expecting whoever brings the food to cook it?
Hmmm.. that's an idea but it's always seemed to worked out. There's a dedicated group of unsung volunteer kitchen help.
Bulldawg
01-05-2009, 06:08
Hmmm.. that's an idea but it's always seemed to worked out. There's a dedicated group of unsung volunteer kitchen help.
I sort of figured you had it covered. :banana:banana
**** that! Who's going to provide the unscheduled entertainment and lead the blueblaze hike? :(
Oh OK. :D
Hmmm.. that's an idea but it's always seemed to worked out. There's a dedicated group of unsung volunteer kitchen help.
Crap, nobody ever wants to hear me sing......
ofthearth
01-05-2009, 09:48
Crap, nobody ever wants to hear me sing......
Can you cook and sing at the same time :-?;).
Can you cook and sing at the same time :-?;).
If you call what I do singing, then yes.....
Check this out... a recent vistor map to the Southern Ruck Website. I should post to the pct-l to get some west coasters! :D
ofthearth
01-05-2009, 14:18
Is it active somewhere? Do you have an address?
Is it active somewhere? Do you have an address?
It's from my stats counter. I don't know if you get all the info I get, but there's a link in the bottom left.
Moonshadow03
01-05-2009, 20:00
Hey Sly:
Great advancements on the soruck site! It looks great and is easy to find information.
I may drop in or I may be out hiking on the long weekend. I will definately keep you posted as to my attendance so you'll know whether or not I'll need a nametag.
Hey Sly:
Great advancements on the soruck site! It looks great and is easy to find information.
I may drop in or I may be out hiking on the long weekend. I will definately keep you posted as to my attendance so you'll know whether or not I'll need a nametag.
Thanks Leanne, Hopefully you'll come!
Hey Sly - you may have answered this question before, but... how many are we trying to feed?
In looking at the google food sheet to sign up, I'm not sure if we need more of some things (for example, is 1 can of coffee enough? how many pounds of butter do we need total under weekend supplies? how many bowls of salad each night?) or not because I don't know what headcount you're estimating.
Would you mind running down a short list of priority items you'd really like to see people sign up to bring that no one has signed up for yet or could you tell us a ballpark headcount and then we can just figure out when checking out the sheet?
Thanks for all of your coordinating!!
Laura/1Pint
Bulldawg
01-05-2009, 20:38
Sly will probably answer with a dead on number, but I think I heard 125 one time.
Hikerhead
01-05-2009, 20:59
Nice touch Sly on placing the slide show on the Ruck site. That song rocks!!!
then that would be 125 pieces of bacon for breakfast right?
then that would be 125 pieces of bacon for breakfast right?
minus those who are hungover and still asleep :D
TunesKnits
01-05-2009, 23:38
I have only attended the SoRuck for two years, but we have had a gathering of women hikers each year. Last year seemed particularly cool with lots of women coming out and telling their story.
I know the schedule is pretty tight and I am looking forward to hearing the talks in the afternoon. I would like to offer my cabin (Cabin E, up on the hill) for a wine/cheese/chocolate/chatting gathering for all women attending the Ruck.
I am unsure of what the best time would be or if there would really be interest. If there is interest, lets figure out a good time.
Tunes
Lone Wolf
01-06-2009, 01:15
at the same time all men can gather around my pick-up. we'll have beer and pork rinds and discuss the latest articles in Playboy. burp, fart and scratch ourselves
Farr Away
01-06-2009, 01:24
I have only attended the SoRuck for two years, but we have had a gathering of women hikers each year. Last year seemed particularly cool with lots of women coming out and telling their story.
I know the schedule is pretty tight and I am looking forward to hearing the talks in the afternoon. I would like to offer my cabin (Cabin E, up on the hill) for a wine/cheese/chocolate/chatting gathering for all women attending the Ruck.
I am unsure of what the best time would be or if there would really be interest. If there is interest, lets figure out a good time.
Tunes
at the same time all men can gather around my pick-up. we'll have beer and pork rinds and discuss the latest articles in Playboy. burp, fart and scratch ourselves
Sounds like we've got ourselves a plan, lol!!
at the same time all men can gather around my pick-up. we'll have beer and pork rinds and discuss the latest articles in Playboy. burp, fart and scratch ourselves
Sounds like business as usual. Enjoy!:D
generoll
01-06-2009, 08:32
at the same time all men can gather around my pick-up. we'll have beer and pork rinds and discuss the latest articles in Playboy. burp, fart and scratch ourselves
I'll bring a jar of pickled hard boiled eggs. That oughta get things started tunefully.
Looks like we may lose Anna aka Mud Butt and her Inca Trail presentation. Her band got a gig on Saturday night. I just emailed back about doing it Friday night but I'm not holding my breath.
Two Speed
01-06-2009, 08:55
at the same time all men can gather around my pick-up. we'll have beer and pork rinds and discuss the latest articles in Playboy. burp, fart and scratch ourselves
I'll bring a jar of pickled hard boiled eggs. That oughta get things started tunefully.Hell, with that kind of temptation we may need more than one pickup.
minus those who are hungover and still asleep :D
Hush up! I resemble that remark!
I have only attended the SoRuck for two years, but we have had a gathering of women hikers each year. Last year seemed particularly cool with lots of women coming out and telling their story.
I know the schedule is pretty tight and I am looking forward to hearing the talks in the afternoon. I would like to offer my cabin (Cabin E, up on the hill) for a wine/cheese/chocolate/chatting gathering for all women attending the Ruck.
I am unsure of what the best time would be or if there would really be interest. If there is interest, lets figure out a good time.
Tunes Wish I were going to be there... Do ya think we could ever hold a ruck in Texas where I could actually go?
Bulldawg
01-06-2009, 12:17
Hell, with that kind of temptation we may need more than one pickup.
I got one!
Hey Sly - you may have answered this question before, but... how many are we trying to feed?
In looking at the google food sheet to sign up, I'm not sure if we need more of some things (for example, is 1 can of coffee enough? how many pounds of butter do we need total under weekend supplies? how many bowls of salad each night?) or not because I don't know what headcount you're estimating.
Would you mind running down a short list of priority items you'd really like to see people sign up to bring that no one has signed up for yet or could you tell us a ballpark headcount and then we can just figure out when checking out the sheet?
Thanks for all of your coordinating!!
Laura/1Pint
We have 110 signed up, but I expect about 125 people. I doubt 1 can of coffee will be enough, I can drink that! ;)
Clyde, who's not coming, but has a coffee connection, supposed to get in touch with Cool Breeze to bring up 4 more cans. That should be enough assuming they make a connection. We have two 40 cup coffee makers which should be enough. I suppose we could use something for hot water.
I'll take a look at the other stuff and try to figure something out.
Bulldawg
01-06-2009, 13:33
We have 110 signed up, but I expect about 125 people. I doubt 1 can of coffee will be enough, I can drink that! ;)
Clyde, who's not coming, but has a coffee connection, supposed to get in touch with Cool Breeze to bring up 4 more cans. That should be enough assuming they make a connection. We have two 40 cup coffee makers which should be enough. I suppose we could use something for hot water.
I'll take a look at the other stuff and try to figure something out.
I'm in on some stuff, but if there is anything we come up short on, let me know. I'll do what the wallet allows.
For example, I am bringing 10 pounds of taters for fried taters one morning. I know 10 lbs won't feed 125 people. Just because someone else is bringing something, you guys need to pitch in and bring enough.
max patch
01-06-2009, 14:52
Wish I were going to be there... Do ya think we could ever hold a ruck in Texas where I could actually go?
I think you just volunteered yourself to start one!
I'm in on some stuff, but if there is anything we come up short on, let me know. I'll do what the wallet allows.
For example, I am bringing 10 pounds of taters for fried taters one morning. I know 10 lbs won't feed 125 people. Just because someone else is bringing something, you guys need to pitch in and bring enough.
I don't think we've ever run out of food and usually have stuff left over to send to the PaRuck.
With the Holidays aside hopefully folks will add some items. If not, I think there's an Ingles in Bryson City!
I doubt 1 can of coffee will be enough, I can drink that......In between all the White Russians?
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/1/3/8/4/22774831-22774833-large.jpg
Lone Wolf
01-06-2009, 15:27
I don't think we've ever run out of food and usually have stuff left over to send to the PaRuck.
PA ruck is 2 weeks after. i wouldn't eat no leftovers :eek:
PA ruck is 2 weeks after. i wouldn't eat no leftovers :eek:
Yeah I know, not cooked food, but paper and stuff like soda, coffee, etc. Cooked food is either brought home or left for the Wildness group.
In between all the White Russians?
I mix my coffee with White Russians.
I mix my coffee with White Russians.Doesn't that make it a Tan Russian?
Doesn't that make it a Tan Russian?
It makes it hard to get to sleep. :D
I spoke with Squatch of about trying to get his last PCT DVD "Walked" It won't be ready until February, but he's sending the third in the series "Even More Walking" I'll be showing that in Mud Butt place Saturday night.
http://www.walkpct.com/
9 days till soruck starts!!!!
Is there anyplace left to stay indoors?
ofthearth
01-07-2009, 11:52
Is there anyplace left to stay indoors?
Geeeezzzzzz thanks for reminding me to call and get a place. Just did and it sounded like they had more room/bunks ( not sure if it's snoring or non-snoring :eek: ). 888-905-7238 worked for me.
How many people stay for Sunday night?
D'Artagnan
01-07-2009, 13:03
It makes it hard to get to sleep. :D
Just up the vodka.
sheepdog
01-07-2009, 13:11
I just called NOC yesterday. They said they had lots of space left.
How many people stay for Sunday night?
Usually at least a dozen (since I keep cabin C). Hopefully a few more this year as we're trying to put together a trail work trip with the Nantahala Hiking Club for Monday.
ofthearth
01-07-2009, 14:00
Sly,
Was wondering if there are more people like me that would do better if I/we knew what was most useful to bring. Would hate to bring more potatoes/ grits ( whatever) only to discover that there was something else needed.
Sly,
Was wondering if there are more people like me that would do better if I/we knew what was most useful to bring. Would hate to bring more potatoes/ grits ( whatever) only to discover that there was something else needed.
All I can say is look over the spreadsheet. It covers the basics.
I wanted to come to the Ruck but I can't. Besides not working due to weather, I am ill again and this time there is some damage. I can't talk right, I can type okay but I am having problems communicating.
Anyway..........