View Full Version : Is it Neels Gap or Neel Gap?
I want to end this argument once and for all, and the best way to do so is to create a poll.
In a democratic society, majority rules.
In a democratic society, majority rules.
So if 2 out of 3 people agree that 2+2=5, we have to reteach everybody above the age of 3?
I can't believe you're still http://www.appalachiantrailservices.com/pics/smilies/beatdeadhorse5.gif.
urbansix
01-03-2009, 00:27
Thank God we don't live in one of those...
CrumbSnatcher
01-03-2009, 00:32
winton porter told me neel gap, sign says neel gap, good enough for me.
There is no argument to end. It is officially recognized as Neels Gap (http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=106:3:2316861217589359::NO:3:P3_FID,P3_TITLE:3 56662%2CNeels%20Gap). Everything else here is forum puffery. Everything you want to know about the current recognized name and previous names or variants is clearly identified in the link above.
Call it what you want. We all know where it is.
where's the choice "who gives a rat's ass?" stoopid poll
CrumbSnatcher
01-03-2009, 00:37
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Call it what you want. We all know where it is.[/quote] thats good enough for me FAT MAN, i don't really give a crap. i call it neels all the time. it was named after MR. NEEL you know the NEEL's family:D
Tennessee Viking
01-03-2009, 00:41
according to Mtn Crossings, its Neel's Gap.
Alligator
01-03-2009, 00:46
Where's the tastes great option?
CrumbSnatcher
01-03-2009, 00:48
5 to 5. a few more each and we can have a football game and beat the crap out of each other.:)
Dances with Mice
01-03-2009, 01:07
None of the above.Knielz Gap?
Yesterday I was meeting 3 people at Wolfpen Gap on the DRT but one of them headed off toward Hogpen Gap. Fortunately he called before going too far out of his way.
Later when we returned to Wolfpen a car with some very confused looking guys drove up. They were looking for Hogpen Gap.
Wolfpen, Hogpen: Two places with different names but still similar enough to fool people.
Neel's Gap, Neel Gap: Tell one person to meet you at Neel Gap, another person to meet you at Neel's Gap and both will go to the same place. That's all that really matters.
It's "kneels" gap. The place where hikers fall on their knees when they realize there's cold pepsis there. At least it worked for me.
FOOD FIGHT!!!!!
http://content8.flixster.com/photo/34/54/43/3454434_gal.jpg
Bulldawg
01-03-2009, 01:43
Do we believe each and every thing the government tells us?? Just because some government website says Neels, does that automatically make it so. I guess it is the same premise involved with some government agency telling us global warming is going to kill is all in the next ten years then it is automatically so??
http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/3/5/4/dsc08321.jpg
I don't trust no sticking Government myself!!:banana:D
Bulldawg
01-03-2009, 01:44
Oh yeah, and read this article???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Mountain
Logic says if it's named after a person, it should be Neel's Gap. However, I prefer Frogtown Pass
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 03:58
It's "kneels" gap. The place where hikers fall on their knees when they realize there's cold pepsis there. At least it worked for me.
they only have Coke at Neel Gap
Tennessee Viking
01-03-2009, 04:00
The P word is forbidden in Georgia.
they only have Coke at Neel Gap
Same stuff. Different bottle.
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 09:33
Same stuff. Different bottle.
yeah pretty much. ain't much difference
More important to me is how one pronounces "Nacoochee." Like hootchie?
ofthearth
01-03-2009, 09:34
they only have Coke at Neel Gap
Now that's a choice I can agree with. Thanks LW :banana:banana:banana:banana
ofthearth
01-03-2009, 09:37
yeah pretty much. ain't much difference
sorta like Neels and Neel :-?
The Old Fhart
01-03-2009, 09:40
Do we believe each and every thing the government tells us?? Just because some government website says Neels, does that automatically make it so. I guess it is the same premise involved with some government agency telling us global warming is going to kill is all in the next ten years then it is automatically so??
http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/5/3/5/4/dsc08321.jpg
I don't trust no sticking Government myself!!:banana:D
...but you'll trust a stinking sign.:banana:D
I want to end this argument once and for all, and the best way to do so is to create a poll.
In a democratic society, majority rules.
This is WhiteBlaze, democracy has nothing to do with it. Who really gives a crap if it's Neel or Neel's? Po-tay-to, po-tah-to, if you wask me. As long as you know where it is and how to get there, you can call it Elmo's World for all I care.
Worldwide
01-03-2009, 10:03
So we have 1 vote for Elmo's world
13 for Neel Gap and
17 for Neels Gap
The conundrum continues!
bloodmountainman
01-03-2009, 10:18
Forgtown Gap..... keep the original name. The gap in question had this name, long before Mr. Neel surveyed the highway route. Also known as Mountain Crossing, Winton Porter"s store, the rock house, and the motocycle turnaround at the top of the hill.
Bulldawg
01-03-2009, 12:09
...but you'll trust a stinking sign.:banana:D
Yeah, and you're an Old Fhart, and Farts are the cause of global warming!! So it might not matter after all the Old Farts floating around in the atmosphere heat the earth to such a temperature that some old Man's house in Maine in washed away into the ocean!!
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 15:11
There is no argument to end. It is officially recognized as Neels Gap (http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=106:3:2316861217589359::NO:3:P3_FID,P3_TITLE:3 56662%2CNeels%20Gap). Everything else here is forum puffery. Everything you want to know about the current recognized name and previous names or variants is clearly identified in the link above.
Call it what you want. We all know where it is.
there is no Grassy Gap in Ga.
Jack Tarlin
01-03-2009, 15:15
Is there a town or community in Georgia called Grassy Gap?
No, I don't think there is, so Wolf has a point.
Is there a geographic location called (and locally known) as Grassy Gap in Georgia?
There sure is, I've been there.
Same as I've frequently visited Neel Gap. :rolleyes:
Come on people, middle school English punctuation.
Gap of Neel = Neel's with the possessive apostrophe.
max patch
01-03-2009, 15:25
Why are all the Yankees trying to change the name of Neel's Gap?
This is just LW stirring the pot again and ya'll are falling for it.
Why are all the Yankees trying to change the name of Neel's Gap?
So you agree it's, or should be, Neel's?
Someone needs to add the option to the choices so I can vote!
Jack Tarlin
01-03-2009, 15:30
By the estimable logic you just presented, Sly, the beautiful New Hampshire trail crossing that you and I have both visited, should be called "Crawford's Notch", right? Cuz, as you said, we're talking about the Notch of Crawford, so it should = and be universally known as Crawford's Notch, right?
Um, no, it shouldn't, and it isn't. There are plenty of places named after individuals that don't use the possessive.
Back to Middle Scool, Sly. You missed something. :D
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 15:30
Why are all the Yankees trying to change the name of Neel's Gap?
This is just LW stirring the pot again and ya'll are falling for it.
no apostrophe
no i'm not. it's just your perception
By the estimable logic you just presented, Sly, the beautiful New Hampshire trail crossing that you and I have both visited, should be called "Crawford's Notch", right? Cuz, as you said, we're talking about the Notch of Crawford, so it should = and be universally known as Crawford's Notch, right?
Um, no, it shouldn't, and it isn't. There are plenty of places named after individuals that don't use the possessive.
Back to Middle Scool, Sly. You missed something. :D
LOL... I actually can't remember when I learned that ****. However, since the possessive apostrophe isn't being used, I'll go with Neel Gap. Neels without the apostrophe is just wrong. (even spell check thinks so)
Jack Tarlin
01-03-2009, 15:39
Thank you, Sly. Next time you find yourself in Crawford Notch, and I hope it's soon, this will all become clear. :D
Class dismissed.
Bulldawg
01-03-2009, 15:40
LOL... I actually can't remember when I learned that ****. However, since the possessive apostrophe isn't being used, I'll go with Neel Gap. Neels without the apostrophe is just wrong. (even spell check thinks so)
Glad to see you have accepted the facts Sly!:banana:D:D
Thank you, Sly. Next time you find yourself in Crawford Notch, and I hope it's soon, this will all become clear. :D
Class dismissed.
Thanks. In that case, it's time to vote!
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 15:44
Pikes Peak should have an apostrohe. it's named after Zebulon Pike
Jack Tarlin
01-03-2009, 15:48
And most noteworthy of all, let's not forget Harpers Ferry, WV.
All sorts of places, just like Neel Gap, neither have, nor require an apostrophe.
Is there a town or community in Georgia called Grassy Gap?
No, I don't think there is, so Wolf has a point.
Is there a geographic location called (and locally known) as Grassy Gap in Georgia?
There sure is, I've been there.
Same as I've frequently visited Neel Gap. :rolleyes:Jack, I honestly am not following your post. Maybe I have had one too many beers already today.
Wolf says there is no Grassy Gap in GA, yet you say there is. You have been there, yet you say Wolf has a point when he says there is no Grassy Gap. Maybe I'm just missing the town connection but what does being a town have to do with it? Grassy Gap is a place, just like Neels Gap is a place, and many places have recognized names. I guess my only question to you and those who have seen the USGS Geographic Names Information System listing and believe it is wrong, then who is the official arbiter on such matters?
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 15:52
grassy gap is not listed in the data book or companion
Jack Tarlin
01-03-2009, 15:55
It's a couple miles north of the NOC. You been there, Wolf, but must have been thinking about other things.
In any case, it's named on maps.
Jack Tarlin
01-03-2009, 15:56
Whoops.
I'm thinking about North Carolina, not Georgia. :D
Time to shut this down and go back to work.
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 15:57
but not in georgia
grassy gap is not listed in the data book or companionI'm surprised you would use such inaccurate sources for your research. After all, both call it Neels Gap.;)
Look at your AT map. Approx a mile north of Gooch Gap on the trail.
I know you don't like GNIS but here's Grassy Gap (http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=106:3:4551953092281910::NO:3:P3_FID,P3_TITLE:3 27990%2CGrassy%20Gap)
Not to put fuel on the fire, but you'll notice that Gragg Gap, just north of Deer Park Shelter and south of Hot springs is not Gragg's Gap. Just sayin'. :D
A better pic without lens distortion (Click for larger image):
You miss a good deal of detail without proper lighting, too.
Nice shot.
actually the lighting makes it clear the inserted "s" is photo-shopped
Pikes Peak should have an apostrohe. it's named after Zebulon Pike
Yup, it probably should. Any English majors on Whiteblaze to confirm this?
Added: Now we're getting someplace...
Originally the peak was called "Pike's Peak", but in 1891, the newly-formed US Board on Geographic Names (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Board_on_Geographic_Names) recommended against the use of apostrophes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe) in names, so officially the name of the peak does not include an apostrophe. In addition, in 1978 the Colorado state legislature passed a law mandating the use of "Pikes Peak" only. Even so, the old name is often seen.
It's all the US Board on Geographical Names fault!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikes_Peak
actually the lighting makes it clear the inserted "s" is photo-shopped
The Horror!
I wish he put an apostrophe in there.
It's Neil's Gap. That's Cherokee for, "don't touch the unwashed white people found here in abundance."
It's Neil's Gap......
You mean this Neil?:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39031000/jpg/_39031969_neil_270.jpg
With everyone obsessing over whether there is an 's' or not an event of some note took place. I direct your attention to post #47 where Jack admitted to a making a mistake. How often does that happen? :banana
Just ribbing you but think I should probably duck anyway. :D
I direct your attention to post #47 where Jack admitted to a making a mistake.
Jack is better than most, he tells it straight as he sees it and admits when he is wrong. How about you? :-?
RITBlake
01-03-2009, 20:24
We're involved in two wars, our economy is a mess, and this is what you people are worrying about. Totally trivial.
Jack is better than most, he tells it straight as he sees it and admits when he is wrong. How about you? :-?
If you will notice I said I was just kidding. Nothing to get serious about and I never mentioned you. Jack can take a joke.
If you will notice I said I was just kidding. Nothing to get serious about and I never mentioned you. Jack can take a joke.
i was only messing with ya. :)
Thank you for posting a picture of my FAVORITE Neil!
Now, what about Vivian, Rick and Mike?
Frau
Pedaling Fool
01-03-2009, 20:51
We're involved in two wars, our economy is a mess, and this is what you people are worrying about. Totally trivial.
These are the things wars are started over.
Thank you for posting a picture of my FAVORITE Neil!
Now, what about Vivian, Rick and Mike?
Frau
You mean these guys?
http://www.crazyabouttv.com/Images/youngones.jpg
BTW, it's Vyvyan. He spelled his name non-conformist.
i was only messing with ya. :)
No problem. Maybe the picture of Belushi freaked me out! :eek:
No problem. Maybe the picture of Belushi freaked me out! :eek:
just showing that anyone can become senator... and that i am just messing with folks... usually :D
some take this schissen way too seriously... or not :cool:
some take this schissen way too seriously... or not :cool:Fo' shizzle.
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 22:59
Jack is better than most, he tells it straight as he sees it and admits when he is wrong. How about you? :-?
how about lugnut is just jokin'. back up :cool:
Jack is better than most, he tells it straight as he sees it and admits when he is wrong.
Jack who? :p
how about lugnut is just jokin'. back up :cool:
i was joking too... just didn't pick the right smilie :o
Lone Wolf
01-03-2009, 23:17
i was joking too... just didn't pick the right smilie :o
invite him
I was wondering about the spelling, but didn't take the time to look it up. My son bought me all the VHS tapes of the show for Christmas several years ago. Wouldn't have thought of Vyvyan, thou.
Danke vielmals!
Frau
I was wondering about the spelling, but didn't take the time to look it up. My son bought me all the VHS tapes of the show for Christmas several years ago. Wouldn't have thought of Vyvyan, thou.
Danke vielmals!
FrauFor Frau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxA0a5G6ccg :banana
Rockhound
01-04-2009, 22:41
So if 2 out of 3 people agree that 2+2=5, we have to reteach everybody above the age of 3?
I can't believe you're still http://www.appalachiantrailservices.com/pics/smilies/beatdeadhorse5.gif.
not everbody. just 1/3 of em'