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Powder River
01-07-2009, 03:15
So I'll be the first to admit that my system for getting my pictures posted to my journal site is inelegant at best. It consists of filling a memory card, waiting to get to a post office, mailing said memory card to my mother, who oh-so graciously ports a grand total of 40GB of pictures onto her already-full hard drive over six months, and finally onto Flickr. In the process, I completely lost one card full of pictures, and another arrived with the envelope ripped in half, but somehow was still inside.

So I've been following CES (http://ces.engadget.com/) pretty closely, and I stumbled upon the following (plausible) solution.

1. Use an Eyefi card (http://www.eye.fi/). This is an SD card with wifi built in, that automatically uploads all of your pictures to one of 20 chosen picture sites, such as Flickr. This alone could be all the solution needed, as wifi seemed readily available in most trail towns, however it would depend on what kind of setup is needed each time you encounter a hotspot. (for example, how do you log onto an encrypted network with your camera?)

2. Carry a Mifi (http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/12/09/novatel-mifi-proves-3g-hotspot-and-sexy-can-coexist/). This is a tiny 3G network device (kind of like the ones you buy for your laptop from Verizon that lets your laptop get on the network) that is also a wireless router, essentially a portable wireless hotspot. Heck, everybody in the shelter would have wifi. With this you could log on with the Eyefi (http://www.eye.fi/) and your photos would automatically be zipped online! According to the Eyefi site (http://www.eye.fi/), this would seem plausible as it does say that it can be used in such a fashion with your home network.

The downside to this, that I can see is the lack of 3g coverage along the trail, and which network this thing is on. I wouldn't hold out hopes for good coverage at all, but I seemed to get Edge coverage by AT&T fairly frequently along the ridgetops, so I guess the question is can the Mifi still log onto a 2G network and broadcast.

The other side to this is the question of can the Eyefi SD card handle a foreign wifi location on its own without need of being plugged into a computer for setup. If it can do that, then there wouldn't be as big a need for the Mifi card, because you could upload in most towns. However, the Mifi does, in theory, allow you to have a truly "live" journal, or at least with pictures updated daily.

The last piece of this puzzle for me is geotagging. My perfect trail journal would have daily updated journal and photos over cellular networks, displayed on a map interface on the main page. It is easy enough to assign the journal entries a GPS coordinate, like Postholer does (http://postholer.com/gmap/entryMap.php?trail=at&stMark=10&mid=223&jdomain=postholer&lat=41.63783&lon=-73.53278&vw=4&zoom=13). And I imagine with a custom web page, you could link one or all of the photos to that entry, and call it good. That way, the entry would display all of the photos taken that day, and your entry alone would show up on the map. However, the real holy grail would be for each photo to be marked with GPS data, so that photo you took at the top of Whitecap Mountain would actually appear in that location on the map. For this, your camera needs a GPS device. Towards this end I found PhotoGPS (http://www.cameratown.com/news/news.cfm/hurl/id%7C3758), which mounts on the hotshoe of your camera (Canon G9 or similar) or the Sony GPS Tracker (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06080202sonygpscs1.asp), which rides on your backpack or waistband. Both of these devices log GPS data seperately from your camera, and synchs it to the EXIF data later via special software. In other words, not an elegant solution for the thru hiker. However, perhaps it would be worth carrying for a project after the trail. The best hope for this functionality is a camera with built-in GPS (http://blogs.zdnet.com/digitalcameras/?p=245), however none of the big camera makers appear to be making these. So maybe geotagging is still a ways off for the thru hiker.

Anyhow, I am just rambling to myself about the exciting possibilities, but I hope I've given some folks some ideas who are planning their thru hikes. :-?


Powder River

Alligator
01-07-2009, 09:14
This is just an untested alternative and potentially a slow option as well. If you have a cell with a micro SD card, you could switch out the card from the camera to the cell and message or upload your photos if the cell is internet capable. I'm not really sure how long this might take.

On the user side, I have seen at least 16gb cards and thumbdrives, and that's reasonably large for capacity.

On the Mom side of the equation, get Mom an extra hard drive, some large cards, or teach her how to work the DVD burner.

Alligator
01-07-2009, 09:33
Looks like WOO (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?p=753021#post753021) has already tried what I suggested about using the cell.

Toolshed
01-07-2009, 09:53
We use an EVDO Pantech where we live (along with dial-up since there is no other option) and after having used the Storm for a month, I think for the price, I would just stick to it (or an Iphone) and take photo's and upload them in spots when I have signals on the trail - I am finding there is very little I cannot do on these 3G networks. An all-in-one device makes it simpler to carry.

The Storm has a 3.2Mpxl camera and it is actually pretty good. It isn't going to compete with my wifes $2K 10Mpxl DSLR, but it makes life pretty easy by carrying fewer things since our "old" main digital camera was 3Mpxl.

Johnny Swank
01-07-2009, 10:20
I leaning that way myself. Cameras in phones continue to improve, and uploading on the fly to Flickr whenever you get a decent signal would be awesome. My wife typically carries our decent camera anyway, so that's always available for really good photos.

BrianLe
01-07-2009, 14:55
I carried a smartphone on the PCT this year, also with AT&T Edge network. A few times I encountered available wi-fi, but more often than not it was indeed secured wi-fi. In one of those places, I was able to enter their password and things worked fine. At another, some motel I think, I got the password but their security interface wouldn't work on the mobile browser on my phone --- I literally couldn't get to the page where I could enter the password. Bottom line here: unless you anticipate unsecured wi-fi availability, I wouldn't count on any mobile device working with wi-fi. I also might wonder whether any of them would meter or limit bandwidth.

What I tried to do was to batch send my photos via email, or via an upload site. I used a compression tool. Of course, compression of photos is pretty limited, perhaps the bigger advantage is just combining them into a single file for less tedious uploading. The experience varied depending on how good my cell reception was (here an AT hike might be a real advantage over the PCT), but even when it was quite good it was tedious on the Edge network.

"It is easy enough to assign the journal entries a GPS coordinate, like Postholer does (http://postholer.com/gmap/entryMap.php?trail=at&stMark=10&mid=223&jdomain=postholer&lat=41.63783&lon=-73.53278&vw=4&zoom=13)."

I used postholer this past year and at the very beginning I put in a GPS coordinate once or maybe twice. Then I quit. I have a true GPS in my smartphone, so I could definitely have done this. It was just one more d#$med thing to do at the end of a 20+ mile day, so I contented myself with giving the NOBO mileage and some description of where I was at, and that seemed plenty sufficient. I would think with the shelter system on the AT, it would be even (much) more clear where you are each day. Maybe you're talking there in general, and not AT-specific.