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phillycheze
01-22-2009, 11:36
hey all!-
i was wondering how to make reservations at the shelters, huts, cabins, etc. at the places that require u to do so while u are on the trail.
...and which places actually require the reservation.
is it just GSNP and the Whites?
-help-

Ron Haven
01-22-2009, 11:40
hey all!-
i was wondering how to make reservations at the shelters, huts, cabins, etc. at the places that require u to do so while u are on the trail.
...and which places actually require the reservation.
is it just GSNP and the Whites?
-help-It is a first come first serve basis on shelters

Red Hat
01-22-2009, 12:06
Except in GSNP, where you do need to make reservations, unless you are a "thruhiker". I'll look it up and post asap.

Red Hat
01-22-2009, 12:13
Call the Backcountry Camping office at 865-436-1230 and they will help you obtain your permits. Good luck!

max patch
01-22-2009, 12:28
Answer depends if you a thru hiker (as defined by the GSMNP) or a section hiker. In any event, any of the 3 Handbooks can give you the info if you are a thru hiker. If not, then the phone number Redhat gave will work.

Rockhound
01-22-2009, 13:45
If you get to a shelter in GSMNP and it's not full yet, wait around a while until it does fill up then go pitch your tent or hang your hammock. Thru-hikers are allowed to camp provided the shelter is full. Unless of course you'd rather stay in shelters, in which case be prepared to vacate if some late arriving weekenders show up at 8:00 with a reservation.

Tin Man
01-22-2009, 13:50
I'd recommend avoiding the AMC huts unless you want to find out what all the squawking is about for yourself like I did for one night last year. I'm fairly tolerant of most things, but waiting around over an hour for breakfast to only leave the table hungry was more than I care to deal with. That was my first and last hut experience.

ofthearth
01-22-2009, 13:51
other numbers
865-436-1297
865-436-1231

Just called both numbers and got thru on the first one. Apparently the first is a volunteer number and the second is the number for backcountry permits.

I asked the person where I would look on their sites for specific information regarding thru hikers and shelters. She did not think there was anything in writing on the site but said that four (4) spaces are left open for thru hikers. Meaning, as I understand it, that their should be four (4) spaces open for thru-hikers - and the first four thru hikers that show up get to stay in a shelter (whether you want to not).

Was also told a supervisor would email me with more information.

Hope this helps

Johnny Thunder
01-22-2009, 13:53
Call the Backcountry Camping office at 865-436-1230 and they will help you obtain your permits. Good luck!

Right. If you are starting your hike in or around GSMNP then it behooves you to have reservations at the shelters. You'll be tied to an exact itinerary (based on the shelter spaces you've been reserved) but at least you have spaces and legal passage through the park. Call that number. The AMC has legal domain over the White Mountains and the huts. Their number is easy to find.

But, if you're planning an actual thru-hike you should avoid the temptation to make reservations at all costs. First, it'll take you about 2 weeks to get to the Smokies from Springer...so, good luck planning when you'll exactly enter the park. Also, the park is very accommodating to hikers. Many hikers prefer to use their tents instead of spending the night in a crowded shelter. Remember that at this point in the hike, many people snore.

You should also avoid paying to stay in the White Mountain hut system since there are other options of camping/staying in the huts besides the forking over the exorbitant fees. Maybe if you had a visitor coming it might make sense to stay at the huts. Anyway, I found that "croos" made sure the hikers ate better than the guests...so long as you didn't complain about helping them out with some work-for-stay. And, you won't be stuck on a schedule. A few older hikers this year were worried about competing for floor space and work for stay...so they decided to reserve spots in the huts. They were then stuck paying hundreds of dollars AND were passed by group after group of their friends. Everyone of them told me that they wished they hadn't done it.

Lone Wolf
01-22-2009, 13:54
If you get to a shelter in GSMNP and it's not full yet, wait around a while until it does fill up then go pitch your tent or hang your hammock. Thru-hikers are allowed to camp provided the shelter is full. Unless of course you'd rather stay in shelters, in which case be prepared to vacate if some late arriving weekenders show up at 8:00 with a reservation.

and this why the rules totally suck. if late arriving res holders they every right to kick out 5 thru-hikers in the rain. thru-hikers should get res's too. or the park should build a twin shelter at every site

Tin Man
01-22-2009, 14:06
You should also avoid paying to stay in the White Mountain hut system since there are other options of camping/staying in the huts besides the forking over the exorbitant fees. Maybe if you had a visitor coming it might make sense to stay at the huts. Anyway, I found that "croos" made sure the hikers ate better than the guests...so long as you didn't complain about helping them out with some work-for-stay. And, you won't be stuck on a schedule. A few older hikers this year were worried about competing for floor space and work for stay...so they decided to reserve spots in the huts. They were then stuck paying hundreds of dollars AND were passed by group after group of their friends. Everyone of them told me that they wished they hadn't done it.

Yep, big bucks, small meal portions. I didn't understand that at all since everybody had to walk to get there. Stayed at Lake of the Clouds and didn't think I would make it to Wash. summit to buy my second breakfast.

ofthearth
01-22-2009, 15:12
and this why the rules totally suck. if late arriving res holders they every right to kick out 5 thru-hikers in the rain. thru-hikers should get res's too. or the park should build a twin shelter at every site


A little confused here. Four spaces are reserved for thru-hikers or so I was told by GSMNP personal. Where does the 5 come from?

Lone Wolf
01-22-2009, 15:16
A little confused here. Four spaces are reserved for thru-hikers or so I was told by GSMNP personal. Where does the 5 come from?

was just a number. if 8 res holders show up after dark then 8 thru-hikers need to get out

ofthearth
01-22-2009, 15:29
The res. system is a bit confusing and that is why I asked the person for something in writing - to no avail at this time. As I understand it - four spaces are left open, regardless of the size of the shelter, for thru-hikers. 12 spaces - 4 for thrus. 8 spaces still 4 left open for thru-hikers. And it would seem to be as you say - that hikers with reservations are guaranteed space.

My concern is more the other way. I want to know how to avoid having to stay IN the shelter without getting hassled.

Tin Man
01-22-2009, 15:39
The res. system is a bit confusing and that is why I asked the person for something in writing - to no avail at this time. As I understand it - four spaces are left open, regardless of the size of the shelter, for thru-hikers. 12 spaces - 4 for thrus. 8 spaces still 4 left open for thru-hikers. And it would seem to be as you say - that hikers with reservations are guaranteed space.

My concern is more the other way. I want to know how to avoid having to stay IN the shelter without getting hassled.

to be safe, wait until the shelter is full to set up your tent, then by the rules, it is okay to do so.

Blissful
01-22-2009, 16:16
You don't need reservations if you are thru hiking in GSMNP or planning a work-for-stay at the AMC huts in the Whites. You do need a backcountry permit though for hiking at GSMNP. And also for Shenandoah. If you want to stay at a cabin in Shenandoah or any of the other PATC cabins, you need to make reservations. Check the PATC site). But you do need reservations for the shelters if you are section hiking the Smokies.

At the White Mtn huts, if you plan to stay for the meals and a bed, you must make reservations. If you plan on work-for-stay, you show up around 3-4 PM and ask the croo about options. All other shelters and campsites are first come, first served.

ofthearth
01-22-2009, 16:31
Did not see anyone mention the thru-hiker definition. I THINK if you state that you are starting fifty (50) miles before the GSMNP and plan on going fifty miles past the park you are a thru-hiker. In which case you fill your own form. The forms are in a box as you come down the hill and cross the road coming into Fontana. (NOBO)

phillycheze
01-23-2009, 12:18
this helps a little... so we're saying screw reservations in GSMNP; just get the permit and roll with the punches and always have ur tent ready.

i'm unsure on what to do in the Whites.
i thought i read that u had to make rez.'s at all 'camping' places not just the shelters and/or huts.
also, i thought u had to reserve in advance the work-for-stay deal too. if this is not the case and people get there before you do and fill all of the w-f-s slots, what happens next? can u tent there or have to keep walking?

SGT Rock
01-23-2009, 12:23
Something I have been tempted to try in GSMNP is a backcountry off-trail pass with the park. This makes you stay off the trail at night, but you are also not tied to any particular campsite. So if you got one you would have to stealth every night without a fire. A guy I was talking to at Soruck got one, he used it for weeks of hiking so he could go or stay where ever he want as he knocked out all 800 miles of trail in the Smokies. Rockhound would remember his name cause he stayed at Standing Bear a bunch of times and Rockhound rode to soruck with him.

Ender
01-23-2009, 12:38
i'm unsure on what to do in the Whites.
i thought i read that u had to make rez.'s at all 'camping' places not just the shelters and/or huts.
also, i thought u had to reserve in advance the work-for-stay deal too. if this is not the case and people get there before you do and fill all of the w-f-s slots, what happens next? can u tent there or have to keep walking?

In the Whites, you can just show up at the campsites, and pay right there... no need for reservations. If you're trying to get a spot in a hut though, the only way to ensure a spot is to reserve... however hut spots cost $$$$. There sometimes are hut spots available to hikers for work-for-stay. I did work for stay at Lake of the Clouds hut, and also at Mt. Greylock down in MA. For both though, if the camp/hut is full, you have to move on, though the rules for camping off trail are pretty reasonable in the Whites... just stay a certain distance away from water or camps/huts and the trail, and you're OK.

Lone Wolf
01-23-2009, 13:11
Something I have been tempted to try in GSMNP is a backcountry off-trail pass with the park. This makes you stay off the trail at night, but you are also not tied to any particular campsite. So if you got one you would have to stealth every night without a fire. A guy I was talking to at Soruck got one, he used it for weeks of hiking so he could go or stay where ever he want as he knocked out all 800 miles of trail in the Smokies. Rockhound would remember his name cause he stayed at Standing Bear a bunch of times and Rockhound rode to soruck with him.

Worldwide?

SGT Rock
01-23-2009, 13:14
That was him!

Tinker
01-23-2009, 13:55
Something I have been tempted to try in GSMNP is a backcountry off-trail pass with the park. This makes you stay off the trail at night, but you are also not tied to any particular campsite. So if you got one you would have to stealth every night without a fire. A guy I was talking to at Soruck got one, he used it for weeks of hiking so he could go or stay where ever he want as he knocked out all 800 miles of trail in the Smokies. Rockhound would remember his name cause he stayed at Standing Bear a bunch of times and Rockhound rode to soruck with him.

Sounds like a very good idea, especially for folks who don't like to use shelters anyway.

Tin Man
01-23-2009, 14:46
In the Whites, you can just show up at the campsites, and pay right there... no need for reservations. If you're trying to get a spot in a hut though, the only way to ensure a spot is to reserve... however hut spots cost $$$$. There sometimes are hut spots available to hikers for work-for-stay. I did work for stay at Lake of the Clouds hut, and also at Mt. Greylock down in MA. For both though, if the camp/hut is full, you have to move on, though the rules for camping off trail are pretty reasonable in the Whites... just stay a certain distance away from water or camps/huts and the trail, and you're OK.

Last August, there were more thru-hikers looking for work for stay at Lake of the Clouds than there were spots. I believe the overflow was allowed to either stay in the dungeon underneath or pay $10 or so to sleep on the floor in the dining hall. Many of the other campsites were near or over capacity and I didn't see them turn anyone away. They either squeezed more people onto the platforms or some cowboy camped next to the shelter or tent platforms.

Ender
01-23-2009, 15:43
Last August, there were more thru-hikers looking for work for stay at Lake of the Clouds than there were spots. I believe the overflow was allowed to either stay in the dungeon underneath or pay $10 or so to sleep on the floor in the dining hall. Many of the other campsites were near or over capacity and I didn't see them turn anyone away. They either squeezed more people onto the platforms or some cowboy camped next to the shelter or tent platforms.

Yeah, that's usually the case at the huts during thru-hiker seasons... I got to LotC Hut early and was able to get one of two available spots. And I also think (though could be wrong... someone out there know?) that you have to pay to sleep in the Dungeon. When I went through in '98 they wouldn't let anyone sleep on the diningroom floor, but that abviously has changed since then as you say.

When I went through though, I never encountered a too-full campsite, but had heard stories of people having to hike on further. Never saw it myself though.

I loved hiking the Whites... I think next time I hike through the section, I would 100% bring a hammock. The ground was rarely flat enough for a tent, but there were plenty of trees below treeline that would have worked well.

Tin Man
01-23-2009, 15:48
Yeah, that's usually the case at the huts during thru-hiker seasons... I got to LotC Hut early and was able to get one of two available spots. And I also think (though could be wrong... someone out there know?) that you have to pay to sleep in the Dungeon. When I went through in '98 they wouldn't let anyone sleep on the diningroom floor, but that abviously has changed since then as you say.

When I went through though, I never encountered a too-full campsite, but had heard stories of people having to hike on further. Never saw it myself though.

I loved hiking the Whites... I think next time I hike through the section, I would 100% bring a hammock. The ground was rarely flat enough for a tent, but there were plenty of trees below treeline that would have worked well.

Timing is everything. We knew we were going during thru-hiker season. What we didn't know is that we were going during college orientation season, which goes from last week of August for approx. 4 weeks. Lots of kids taking up lots of space at the campsites. They were well-behaved and we had no issues.

Blissful
01-23-2009, 16:24
I found the croo at the huts pretty reasonable with hiker overflow. We had a ton at Lakes of the Clouds (like 10 I think or so) yet they let us stay in the dining hall. You don't want to stay in the dungeon anyway - wet, muddy, slimy, cold, ugh. They were great at Galehead too when we had a lot of hikers.

The only one we had an interesting stay at was Carter Notch in '07. The hutmaster was an ogre who hated thru hikers (the gal there was nice). We did okay there (though we had to work several jobs - only hut that had us do this), but others had stories of being turned away at 4 PM because it was too early, etc. And the max was 4 people helping, that was it.

Kanati
01-23-2009, 17:57
and this why the rules totally suck. if late arriving res holders they every right to kick out 5 thru-hikers in the rain. thru-hikers should get res's too. or the park should build a twin shelter at every site

Luckily most weekenders, spring breakers, etc. don't know this and you can ignore it and just claim your spot. I know I'll get reprimanded for saying that, but darn-it thru-hikers are the ones who should have priority!!!

Just an opinion.

Ender
01-23-2009, 18:16
I know I'll get reprimanded for saying that, but darn-it thru-hikers are the ones who should have priority!!!

Just an opinion.


No, they really shouldn't. They should follow the rules like everyone else.

Just my opinion. ;):)

Tin Man
01-23-2009, 18:27
No, they really shouldn't. They should follow the rules like everyone else.

Just my opinion. ;):)

Thru-hikers should bow to section-hikers. After all, section hikers are easy yogi targets. ;)

Lone Wolf
01-23-2009, 20:47
Luckily most weekenders, spring breakers, etc. don't know this and you can ignore it and just claim your spot. I know I'll get reprimanded for saying that, but darn-it thru-hikers are the ones who should have priority!!!

Just an opinion.

tell me you're not serious. i'll reach thru and female dog slap you

SGT Rock
01-23-2009, 20:50
They are not really thru-hikers until they finish. Until then they are hikers just like anyone else really. So no, they already get special privileges that weekenders do not, so no special priority.

That said, I always give up my spot in those shelters when I have a res. I hate shelters.

Worldwide
01-23-2009, 21:10
Something I have been tempted to try in GSMNP is a backcountry off-trail pass with the park. This makes you stay off the trail at night, but you are also not tied to any particular campsite. So if you got one you would have to stealth every night without a fire. A guy I was talking to at Soruck got one, he used it for weeks of hiking so he could go or stay where ever he want as he knocked out all 800 miles of trail in the Smokies. Rockhound would remember his name cause he stayed at Standing Bear a bunch of times and Rockhound rode to soruck with him.

That would be me.

To get this pass you need to go to Sugarlands visitors center and meet with the Back Country Ranger Supervisor George Minnigh and have him give you his blessing. This took me over 10 days to achieve. Expect a gear check and land nav skill check. The ultimate question of "why do you want this pass?" will come up. The wrong answer is "To harvest ginseng and ramps"

That being said they give out less than 1 back country cross country permit every 2 years. However, that is because noone knows to ask. It is impractical for a thru hike really. To knock out the entire park it was the ultimate access pass.

Also in GSMNP you are a "thru hiker" if you start and end your hike 80 miles outside of the park. So you can do a section of the AT and still use the "thru hiker" spots at a shelter

Peace Out

Have fun in the Smokies!

Lone Wolf
01-23-2009, 21:10
sheep love pens

SGT Rock
01-23-2009, 21:12
You could also use the BMT, only one shelter for it in the whole park.

Tin Man
01-23-2009, 21:18
You could also use the BMT, only one shelter for it in the whole park.

is that where they keep the sheep?

phillycheze
01-23-2009, 21:35
so, back to the original question of this forum:

how do u make the reservations while on the trail and where do u have to do so?

Tin Man
01-23-2009, 21:37
so, back to the original question of this forum:

how do u make the reservations while on the trail and where do u have to do so?

Click here (http://www.doi.gov/bia/)

Egads
01-23-2009, 21:38
so, back to the original question of this forum:

how do u make the reservations while on the trail and where do u have to do so?

U pick up the phone at Springer shelter and call ahead to the next shelter you plan to stay at and have them put your name on the list

Tin Man
01-23-2009, 21:39
U pick up the phone at Springer shelter and call ahead to the next shelter you plan to stay at and have them put your name on the list

and bring lots of quarters

Kanati
01-23-2009, 21:48
They are not really thru-hikers until they finish. Until then they are hikers just like anyone else really. So no, they already get special privileges that weekenders do not, so no special priority.

That said, I always give up my spot in those shelters when I have a res. I hate shelters.

Told you I'd get reprimanded. You guys are right. Here's a little GSMNP story:

Last year 3/31, at Ice Water Springs we were all tucked in and most were asleep. It was cold, raining and the shelter was over full as you might expect. 2 or 3 tents set up near by. Then, this family came in at 11:00 P. M.. They were not hiking. They were traveling by car, which they left at Newfound Gap. They were on their way from Detroit to Florida to a wedding. They just decided it would be neat to spend the night in a shelter. The grandpa, my age or there bouts scooted in beside me and decided he wanted to talk. I tried to ignore him but he wasn't discouraged. I grunted a few times but that's all he got out of me. A friend of the family, a guy about 22 years old scooted in on the other side of me. We gave a new meaning to the term packed in like sardines. And, this guy was sick with a cold, I mean had fever, coughing, the whole works. I buried my head in my sleeping bag trying to escape the virouses. Then to top it all off, the teenagers in the group got out their cooking gear and began cooking!! And they kept running in and out talking to Grandpa and the sick friend. I think it was about 1:30 P.M. before they setteled down.

This really happened.

SGT Rock
01-23-2009, 21:52
But if they had a reservation it was their spot. But that is a good example of why it isn't fun to stay in shelters.

I've stayed at many of them in the Smokies, I've only ever slept in one of them.

Lone Wolf
01-23-2009, 22:14
Told you I'd get reprimanded. You guys are right. Here's a little GSMNP story:

Last year 3/31, at Ice Water Springs we were all tucked in and most were asleep. It was cold, raining and the shelter was over full as you might expect. 2 or 3 tents set up near by. Then, this family came in at 11:00 P. M.. They were not hiking. They were traveling by car, which they left at Newfound Gap. They were on their way from Detroit to Florida to a wedding. They just decided it would be neat to spend the night in a shelter. The grandpa, my age or there bouts scooted in beside me and decided he wanted to talk. I tried to ignore him but he wasn't discouraged. I grunted a few times but that's all he got out of me. A friend of the family, a guy about 22 years old scooted in on the other side of me. We gave a new meaning to the term packed in like sardines. And, this guy was sick with a cold, I mean had fever, coughing, the whole works. I buried my head in my sleeping bag trying to escape the virouses. Then to top it all off, the teenagers in the group got out their cooking gear and began cooking!! And they kept running in and out talking to Grandpa and the sick friend. I think it was about 1:30 P.M. before they setteled down.

This really happened.

1000s of acres of woods around the shelter. shoulda been in them

Rockhound
01-24-2009, 09:58
The res. system is a bit confusing and that is why I asked the person for something in writing - to no avail at this time. As I understand it - four spaces are left open, regardless of the size of the shelter, for thru-hikers. 12 spaces - 4 for thrus. 8 spaces still 4 left open for thru-hikers. And it would seem to be as you say - that hikers with reservations are guaranteed space.

My concern is more the other way. I want to know how to avoid having to stay IN the shelter without getting hassled.
see post #6

Kanati
01-25-2009, 22:43
tell me you're not serious. i'll reach thru and female dog slap you

Noooo, I'm not serious......Actually, what I really think is that it should be on a first come, first serve basis like ever other facility on the trail.

Happy birthday.

phillycheze
01-27-2009, 11:01
***! - so no one has actually answered this question. does it even matter then?
just F-it and stay in your tent?

what i was looking for was HOW and WHERE THEY ARE REQUIRED... and try not to be an ass about it, tell stories, and give your IMHO's.

just the facts please. Remember, this is the Question and Answer forum.

Lone Wolf
01-27-2009, 11:33
hey all!-
i was wondering how to make reservations at the shelters, huts, cabins, etc. at the places that require u to do so while u are on the trail.
...and which places actually require the reservation.
is it just GSNP and the Whites?
-help-

GSMNP, Baxter and SNP. self registration

rickb
01-27-2009, 12:29
No way to reserve a shelter in GSNP if you are a thru hiker. Right? Just self register to be in the park and take your chances with getting a spot that others have not reserved

Only SOBOs reserve a shelter in advance at Baxter. All other thrus just show up.

ofthearth
01-27-2009, 14:02
hey all!-
i was wondering how to make reservations at the shelters, huts, cabins, etc. at the places that require u to do so while u are on the trail.
...and which places actually require the reservation.
is it just GSNP and the Whites?
-help-


***! - so no one has actually answered this question. does it even matter then?
just F-it and stay in your tent?

what i was looking for was HOW and WHERE THEY ARE REQUIRED... and try not to be an ass about it, tell stories, and give your IMHO's.

just the facts please. Remember, this is the Question and Answer forum.

Funny you should point out this a "question and answer FORUM" then complain about the answers. If you want just the FACTS then, for example, call the GSNP and ask them your question. Or be more EXACT in your own questions. Are you a thru-hiker or a section hiker or what? The rules in the GSNP vary as should have been obvious from the responses that you got.

does it even matter then?
just F-it and stay in your tent?

may not be a bad idea. enjoy your hike;)

Sly
01-27-2009, 14:54
Funny you should point out this a "question and answer FORUM" then complain about the answers.

You have to admit, he has the perfect avatar. :D

Egads
01-27-2009, 17:57
***! - so no one has actually answered this question. does it even matter then?
just F-it and stay in your tent?

what i was looking for was HOW and WHERE THEY ARE REQUIRED... and try not to be an ass about it, tell stories, and give your IMHO's.

just the facts please. Remember, this is the Question and Answer forum.

Welcome to Whiteblaze :D

Egads
02-04-2009, 22:22
No reservations required in GSMNP this week. Temp was -20*F at Mt Leconte this morning

sliderule
02-04-2009, 22:45
No way to reserve a shelter in GSNP if you are a thru hiker. Right?

Wrong.

sliderule
02-04-2009, 22:50
other numbers

I asked the person where I would look on their sites for specific information regarding thru hikers and shelters. She did not think there was anything in writing on the site but said that four (4) spaces are left open for thru hikers.



Historically, the thru hiker slots were only held out in the Spring. Typically, April through mid June. The number has varied from two to four, with four being the more recent figure.

GeneralLee10
02-04-2009, 23:12
I don't get it myself... if you are in the woods to get away from the city why should you pay to sleep? If that is the case go to a Hotel. I mite say F the AT and the so called rules. From the sounds of it this is a Highway for feet not a "TRAIL" so why even walk it? There should be a speed limit on this "Trail", if someone wants to charge for you to sleep come on people heck maybe someday you Fine AT Folks mite charge to walk this Trail... what 2 dollars a step or more!. An another thing why would you want to stay in a shelter? Your going to the Great Outdoors to be one with Nature not a shelter get out from under the Roof and sit in the rain.

Hikes in Rain
02-05-2009, 06:31
No charge for shelters, except in the Whites at the huts. May be a couple of others of which I'm not aware, but by and large, no charge and first come, first served. Reservations are required in the Smokies and a few other places, but they're easy to get and free.

rickb
02-05-2009, 06:35
Wrong.

Thank you for clearing up my confusion.

Egads
02-05-2009, 07:02
Here is the GSMNP Website link
http://www.nps.gov/grsm/planyourvisit/backcountry-camping.htm

Lone Wolf
02-05-2009, 07:24
Here is the GSMNP Website link
http://www.nps.gov/grsm/planyourvisit/backcountry-camping.htm

nothing in there about space set aside for thru-hikers

Montana Mac
02-05-2009, 09:12
QUESTION:
Does anyone know if the rangers check to see if you are stealth camping in GSMNP?

I know if you are truly in a stealth ( the act or action of proceeding furtively, secretly, or imperceptibly ) site you shouldn't be found, but just wondering if they check. :-?

kytrailman
02-05-2009, 09:32
They have been known to stroll across the shelters that are easily accesses from roads. I frequent the smokies, and have never had a problem. Last year they set aside 2 spots for thrus on a first-come first-serve basis. They consider a thru-hiker, any hiker that begins or ends 40-50 miles outside the park boundaries. Don't waswte your time with the shelters and enjoy the woods.

Lone Wolf
02-05-2009, 10:02
they set aside 2 spots for thrus on a first-come first-serve basis. They consider a thru-hiker, any hiker that begins or ends 40-50 miles outside the park boundaries.

where is that officially written?

YoungMoose
02-05-2009, 10:35
u dontneed reservations for most shelts. most of them arent used all that much when not in the thru hiker season

SGT Rock
02-08-2009, 10:59
From CFR 36 Chapter 1:



The use of tents at shelters is prohibited except by persons
qualifying as thru-hikers on the Appalachian Trail (by
definition an Appalachian thru-hiker is a backpacker who is
using the Appalachian Trail exclusively while in the park
and whose trip begins and ends a minimum of fifty miles
outside the park). Thru-hikers may pitch tents outside
shelters only when all bunks are otherwise occupied.

SGT Rock
02-08-2009, 12:29
Also, since it comes up every year about what the real rules are. Here is the link for all the various rules (shelters, dogs, hitchhiking, etc) in GSMNP:

http://www.nps.gov/grsm/parkmgmt/upload/07%20Compendium.pdf