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firebreak2
02-08-2009, 19:45
20 pounds
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50 pounds
Lone Wolf
02-08-2009, 19:54
35+
SGT Rock
02-08-2009, 20:02
When? When I leave town in winter or when I get into town in the summer? Or sometime in-between.
Bulldawg
02-08-2009, 20:02
Where is the choice for 25lbs?
My pack weighs about 3 lbs. When it has all my gear in it and 3 day's worth of food along with a liter or 2 of water, about 30 lbs.
YoungMoose
02-08-2009, 20:12
when i go on a 3 day 2 night its around 15 and when i go on a week plus its ovre 50
BADLY worded question! If U have hiked long enough U will realize pack wt doesn't stay the same. It changes when the conditions change!
SGT Rock
02-08-2009, 20:26
My answer - when I leave Damascus with a quart a bourbon, all my winter gear, 5 days of food, and a box of chicken strapped to the pack - 35 pounds. When I walk into Big Creek Ranger station at the end of a hike in the summer - 11.5 pounds.
hopefulhiker
02-08-2009, 20:33
I think most thru hikers have packs that are less than 35 lbs most of the time..
My answer - when I leave Damascus with a quart a bourbon, all my winter gear, 5 days of food, and a box of chicken strapped to the pack - 35 pounds. When I walk into Big Creek Ranger station at the end of a hike in the summer - 11.5 pounds.
LOL. That's what the question deserves! Oh fu@k!
Come on guys cut the dude some slack it's his first post.
WELCOME!!
In winter with a weeks worth of food my pack weighs an average of 35lbs, give or take. In summer it's under 30lbs.
thecaptain
02-08-2009, 21:04
here is mine......19 pounds with 3 days of food with a 30 dergee sleeping bag
sleeman13
02-08-2009, 21:11
14 lbs before food and water.
Kerosene
02-08-2009, 21:27
25-26 pounds with 3-4 days of consummables for shoulder season backpacking.
Frick Frack
02-08-2009, 22:58
40 lbs leaving Kathadin Stream campground on the beginning of our sobo with supplies for the 100 Mile Wilderness. In Monson we ditched everything from a pot holder, small camera tripod, extra dry bag, few clothes, Lexan bowls & rain pants but I never cared enough to weigh my pack again...
sasquatch2014
02-08-2009, 23:02
I pack too heavy but I never go hungry. lol.
SmokeEater
02-09-2009, 01:00
:welcome30lbs
Dont pay any attention to the negative posts.
drastic_quench
02-09-2009, 01:42
Less that 35 optimally.
Sorry about that Firebreak2. Big Blue was right. It's your first post and I was being a snob and a jerk. Welcome to WB. From the other posts on this thread U see that most people R giving pack wt. answers with a qualifier. In other words, they R giving U pack wts. under specific conditions. It's easier to answer the question more accurately and succinctly if U ask the question when U include under what conditions U want people to post their pack wts. because it does change from season to season and under various conditions. Look forward to your next post so maybe I can learn something or reply without being an ass.
1/2 the weight of your lowest choice
25 to 28 lbs with water and 4 days of food.
warraghiyagey
02-09-2009, 09:55
Fully loaded about 110 pounds
Mine could be 35 with 4-5 days food and water to get me through a 15-20 mile dry patch, at least that first morning...
Rockhound
02-09-2009, 11:41
twice the weight of your biggest choice
Rockhound
02-09-2009, 11:45
Actually I averaged about 45 lbs. with food and water in 07'. Still a little heavier than the average but I'm comfortable with it.
Ramble~On
02-09-2009, 12:01
110 and one half pounds ! :cool:
I don't weigh my pack...I put the stuff in it that I want to carry and I put it on and walk. As I drink, eat and use stove fuel--the weight goes down.
When I refill my water the weight goes up etc etc. No matter how much or how little weight I carry - it always seems too much.
When I'm hungry - I eat well.
When I'm thirsty I drink and continue drinking until I'm hydrated.
When I'm cold- I add a layer
When I'm hot - I take a layer off
When I'm tired - I sleep in what is for me a comfortable, dry & warm trail bed.
When it rains - I put on stuff to keep me and my pack dry.
I also carry stuff for sun, bugs, blisters, boredom, information, relaxation...etc. etc. etc.
And now that I've Rambled On...I'll answer the question:D 30 pounds!
( I'm guessing ) unlike these other posters I do not carry a scale with me so that I'm able to know what my packs weighs at any given time!
whiterockjock
02-09-2009, 13:01
17 pounds with 3 days food and one quart water
35lb with 4-5 days of food but I do carry a 2 man tent, I dont intend on going lighter, I aint no gram counter!
earlyriser26
02-09-2009, 14:36
About 35 without water, but that includes a 5 lb tent (no there are not better alternatives)
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I guess there's NO ROOM for the LIGHT WEIGHTERS, here!
my pack weighs 25lbs...give or take a few ounces:D
that includes 7 days food & two 1 litre bottles of water!
see ya'll out there May 2-14 (w/ "Jigsaw", "Model-T", & "DAKS") NOBO Harpers Ferry to Swatara Gap,PA
25 for winter
17 for spring
bigcranky
02-09-2009, 17:31
In March, with 5 days of food and a liter of water, I expect my pack to weigh 30 pounds. When I cruise southbound into Neels Gap with an empty food bag and no water, it'll weigh about 17 pounds.
Last summer I got that "base weight" down to 13 pounds for a week long hike in Virginia, but I've since added back in a few items that make my life easier and happier. What's a pound or two if it makes you happy?
15-20 depending on how long im out.
Tipi Walter
02-12-2009, 19:22
On a typical 10 day winter trip my pack weighs in at around 75 pounds, with about a quart of white gas, the usual books and candles, a little pocket radio, and the standard load of food--fruit/apples/pears/avocados. Did I mention the food?
My pack/tent together weighs in at 16 pounds--ULers weep. And since most of the time I'm sleeping on snow, I don't scrimp on a sleeping pad or bag--I go for a subzero down bag and a beefy thermarest large, 25x77 inches. R-value around 4.5-5. Did I mention the half dozen eggs I like to bring?
At the end of a typical winter trip my pack weighs in at around 45 pounds, almost a daypack weight, and so light I hardly even notice it. Helps to have a beefy pack with a stout suspension system, etc, to handle the beginning load. By the end all my books have been burned, the fuel is low, the food is nearly gone, the candles used, and I'm skipping down the trail with a full journal and a lighter pack. It feels good. But actually, it feels the best on the first day of a long trip when it is at it's heaviest, because I know I'm starting out on another long trip w/o interruption and don't mind the extra weight. And I might not be doing 20 miles days, but then again, why would I want to pass quickly thru an area I just entered?
Nearly any normal adult can carry 60-75 pounds and still pull 10 mile days fairly easily. My mileage ranges from between 5 to 12 miles daily, all depending on blizzard conditions and elevation gains. Sometimes I'm climbing 3000 feet on a 5 mile trail and that will be enough for one day.
Fully loaded about 110 pounds
Who carries it for you? :banana
l0ngterm
02-12-2009, 21:27
This Spring: 13.5 pounds without food and water. Includes gear for any weather. About 1 and 3/4 pounds of food per day and rarely more than 2.5 liters of water. Average for a week hike about 25 lbs. Its great how lite the pack is in the middle of the week.
l0ngterm
14 ozs. or 1#5ozs. The crap I put into them is what weighs a lot!
Seriously?
15 lbs/summer weekend in White Mts.
35 lbs/ September Hundred Mile Wilderness solo hike.
mkmangold
02-13-2009, 01:45
My answer - when I leave Damascus with a quart a bourbon, all my winter gear, 5 days of food, and a box of chicken strapped to the pack - 35 pounds. When I walk into Big Creek Ranger station at the end of a hike in the summer - 11.5 pounds.
What makes up that 11.5 pounds?
SGT Rock
02-13-2009, 09:47
Since MKMangold asked.
Clothing - extra stuff and summer:
1.45oz Running socks
1.98oz Microfiber underwear
0.95oz stuff sack for clothing
1.31oz buff
Rain Clothing:
10.00oz Packa rain jacket and pack cover combo
8.45oz Shadow rain pants (looking to go a little lighter with some Frogg Toggs)
1.20oz Goretex mittens
3.36oz Rocky Goretex socks
Kitchen
0.39oz plastic spoon
4.03oz 0.9L titanium pot
0.64oz lighter
4.45oz polar pure (with water in it)
1.24oz Platypus 2+L
2.76oz Sea To Summit sack (food bag) Another one I could drop weight on
2.12oz 5ea zip locks for food storage
0.74oz 10ounce fuel bottle
0.49oz hot sauce bottle
0.88oz Plumbers cloth windscreen/pot cozy
0.42oz Ion stove (modified SUL version)
0.60oz 4ounce bottle for olive oil
0.85oz 32oz platypus flask for adult beverages ;)
2.01oz Gatorade cup/bowl combo with cozy
1.91oz Gatorade bottle with cord handle and mini carabiner
0.49oz bottle for powdered milk
0.42oz pill bottle for Parmesan cheese
Miscellaneous stuff
4.45oz First Aid/Repair kit with spare batteries
0.39oz stuff sack for misc stuff
1.17oz fire starter pack (vaseline cotton balls)
1.52oz piss bottle
0.57oz dry bag for electronics
0.49oz USB cable
0.78oz phone battery
0.39oz headphone adaptor
0.07oz desiccant pack
1.77oz 115/220v to USB wall charger (1A speed charger)
0.85oz phone battery charger box
4.28oz Cell phone
1.17oz camera charger cable
0.04oz data card
0.18oz data card case
Hygiene
0.21oz zip-lock for toilet paper
0.60oz pack towel
0.28oz 1oz bottle for soap
0.46oz tooth brush and paste
Navigation
0.42oz zip lock
2.23oz Black Diamond Spot with Li batteries
0.62oz Writing paper
0.18oz pencil
3.18oz Maps (the sheets for sections not on at the time)
0.39oz plastic sheet "writing table"
Rucksack and Shelter
20.21oz Modified Gearskin
0.99oz stuff sack
9.33oz Hennessy Hammock tarp with slingshot tie outs
19.68oz Hennessy Hyperlite with snake skins.
21.06oz JRB No-Sniveler Quilt
2.33oz Trash Compactor bag
9.89oz Homemade mummy pad
2.51oz bear line with stake bag
0.95oz 3ea nail stakes
2.54oz 2ea Carabiner's
1.87oz pack liner
Luxury items
10.92oz book
0.28oz thermometer
1.87oz trail humidor
No consumables counted. At the end of a hike I am normally out of everything if I plan it right. If I don't - then add a pound for some left over ramen and such.
Stuff I wear or is on my person:
25.55oz trail runners
0.18oz wedding ring
1.45oz running socks
3.85oz underarmor shirt
1.98oz microfiber underwear
3.64oz shorts
2.30oz baseball style hiking hat
2.47oz car keys/money/ID cards/Wallet
0.64oz second lighter
1.77oz Leatherman Micra
1.27oz Timex Ironman watch with compass
0.95oz Dog Tags
19.43oz Hiking poles
2.97oz Duct Tape on my poles
4.57oz Kodak Easy Share camera - right pocket
0.07oz desiccant pack for camera case
1.34oz Hard waterproof case for camera (soap dish)
1.95oz map
6.57oz guidebook (left pocket)
0.42oz zip-lock bag (mapcase)
0.21oz lip balm
1.66oz Mapdanna
0.67oz one nylon dress sock for ankle brace
0.35oz reading glasses with case
5.90oz athletic ankle brace
0.42oz headphones
1.20 oz MP3 player/FM radio
3.29oz windshirt
Just remember this is my summer packing list. So say I was going out in late June to early September this would work. Emergency insulation options are rain gear over clothing, and even No-Snivler under packa which would be VERY warm. If I go in other weather I have layer levels based on the weather. I have experience with lots cold weather ;)
Three years ago I rigorously pared down weight.
Had a Gregory 8 lb. internal pack, now use a Granite Gear Vapor Trail (32 ozs.).
Had a 9 lb. North Face dome tent, now use a 17 oz. 8x10 silnylon tarp.
Had a 25 oz. Thermarest, now use an 14 oz. hammock and 4 oz. blue pad.
Had a 14 oz. MSR Whisperlite stove, now use a 1 oz. Cat Stove.
Etc.
Summer weekend weight with food and water: 17 pounds.
Winter weekend weight with food and water: 24 pounds.
Only difference I'd make for a thru-hike would be added food weight.
This includes luxuries such as small radio, camera, and bourbon :D.
RadioFreq
02-13-2009, 10:53
Since MKMangold asked.
0.18oz wedding ring
Geez, Rock, you weighed you wedding ring? After 27 years of marriage I
kinda think of mine as a permanent part of my hand...like my fingernails. :D
SGT Rock
02-13-2009, 10:57
Geez, Rock, you weighed you wedding ring? After 27 years of marriage I
kinda think of mine as a permanent part of my hand...like my fingernails. :D
Everything counts. For instance: I use to say "oh, those zip-lock bags are just stuff - they don't count". Then one day I decided to stack them all up and weigh them. I had over a pound of zip locks. So I got to trimming them down too.
Get a spreadsheet and weigh everything!
WalkingStick75
02-13-2009, 17:43
35 pounds with a weeks worth of food and I eat good on the trail.
mkmangold
02-14-2009, 00:02
35 pounds with a weeks worth of food and I eat good on the trail.
Or, well.
Wow I am coming in at about 50lbs. Oh thats right I am a MAN!
My answer - when I leave Damascus with a quart a bourbon, all my winter gear, 5 days of food, and a box of chicken strapped to the pack - 35 pounds. When I walk into Big Creek Ranger station at the end of a hike in the summer - 11.5 pounds.
Ya pretty much the same but when its cool enough Ill drag a Gallon of milk out with a pack of Oreos too. Dehydrated milk just isn't the same.
I come in with about 45 lbs with 2 liter water. That is 10 days food, snacks seem to weigh more than anyting except my water. I have the hhulbp with super shelter and hex tarp, about 4ish lbs. osprey argon 85 about 6lbs and a ray way quilt about 2 lbs. So big 3 is about 11 lbs. I have dehydrated most of my meals and vacum sealed them. Wonder what all that plastic seal bag weighs?
Tipi Walter
02-17-2009, 11:47
I come in with about 45 lbs with 2 liter water. That is 10 days food, snacks seem to weigh more than anyting except my water. I have the hhulbp with super shelter and hex tarp, about 4ish lbs. osprey argon 85 about 6lbs and a ray way quilt about 2 lbs. So big 3 is about 11 lbs. I have dehydrated most of my meals and vacum sealed them. Wonder what all that plastic seal bag weighs?
This is what I like to hear, long trip weights. 10 days is a good long time to be out and reflects a higher pack weight, of course. I wonder about your sleeping bag(quilt)and sleeping pad in the winter. Any changes?? What about fuel for 10 days?
With the supershelter and the quilt I can be down to the low 20s and had a night in the teens with extra clothes on that being heavy wt long johns 2 pair wool socks, under long johns i believer I had my light wt thermals on also, and wool cap and draped my down coat over the top. I was good till about 0400 then had to pee that messed the whole thing up, took some time to reheat.
My cook system is a jetboil and carrying 2 canisters gets me 2 heated meals and coffee each day with some left over. I realize I could go lighter here but I like quick fire ease of the Jetboil.
If I remeber correctly Tippi I have seen you in a Sport Kilt? Mine should be on the porch today so I will be saving that much weight in underware( must wear properly or it is a dress)
I would post my gear list if anyone would like to see it.
I will cheat some on this years section, we will be getting a resupply at Newfound Gap from my Dad so I will have 7 days of food then a
ressupply.I hope to see a large pizza and cokes at the gap!!!! :banana
Some of this could be dropped if temps were warmer but I don't believe it would drop more than 4 -5 lbs
calculating infinity
02-18-2009, 14:16
right now id say my base weight is hovering around ten pounds
Tipi Walter
02-18-2009, 15:02
If I remeber correctly Tippi I have seen you in a Sport Kilt? Mine should be on the porch today so I will be saving that much weight in underware( must wear properly or it is a dress)
I did wear a ochre skirt for one summer in my swami phase but never a kilt, and never a sport kilt(which reminds me of a downhill backpacking story in the snow and using the "bung arrest" to keep from falling--"sport" chaps with cheeks exposed to aid in butt suction and "bung abseiling"--don't ask).
sorry mistaken identity
BEAS
I found it the gentleman's name is TIP and he is also bearded as you are some color hair. Can't believe the resemblence. By the way I am sporting the new kilt as I type!!!!
Blissful
02-18-2009, 20:42
I actually met a gal on the trail in '07 who carried up to 60 lbs. Hence her name Sixty. She had two pairs of boots, cans of beets, stuff like that. She had the same pack as mine at the time too - a Lowes Alpamayo (but I carried about 33 then) She quit not too long after...
summitnh
04-04-2009, 18:53
It weighed 30# at amicola (on the hook scale thing)
Slo-go'en
04-04-2009, 20:17
looks like 16 pounds base weight for the hike I start soon to go from one end of VA to the other. Will most likely top out at 22-23 pounds fully loaded with fuel, water and food. Worked damn hard to get the pack that light!
medicjimr
04-06-2009, 17:43
Well I just got done weighing my pack minus water and 20 onces alcohol for cat stove 50 LBS so I can figure 60 - 65 lbs said and done I don't own any light weight gear except cat stove I made some day I will loose some weight but now I am comfortable with weight. haven't hiked more than 5 miles at a time yet still a newbie so opinion may change LOL
Jester2000
04-06-2009, 19:26
Don't really know, don't particularly care.
Somewhere between 30 and 35 lbs. for the "Hundred Mile Wilderness" last fall - 9 days (plus 3 more [after resupply] to do Katahdin and back to Abol Bridge). That's about the max I expect to have to carry anywhere on the AT outside of winter weather.
Whiskyjo
04-07-2009, 00:41
My summer weight for 7 days is 38 lbs. Winter is 45 lbs. Thats everything but the wife and I dare not go there.
sasquatch2014
04-07-2009, 22:21
Just got done with a 3 day hike and packed for wet and cold which we got by the end so glad I took it. a bit heavy on food and had some of the stuff for the dog and the pack day one out of Culvers Gap was 46-47 lbs weighed in by Shamrock. Need to work on getting a good mid season pack weight down into the upper 30's and I'll be fine.
thecaptain
04-08-2009, 10:43
With five days food and tent 21 pounds
With five days food and tent 21 pounds
We must be carrying the same gear, if that includes water.
thecaptain
04-08-2009, 12:32
yep includes water
ula conduit 2009 model
henry shires sublite sil
POE mat
nunatak arc specialist
caldera cone with ti-kettle
leeki pole
04-08-2009, 12:32
I think it would be interesting to include body weight, you can't compare a 145 pound hiker to someone that weighs 225. I weigh 148 pounds and my summer pack is about 40 pounds, but I like my luxuries. I consider it being on vacation.
yep includes water
ula conduit 2009 model
henry shires sublite sil
POE mat
nunatak arc specialist
caldera cone with ti-kettle
GG Vapor Trail
Henry Shires Double Rainbow
Z Lite pad (2 sections cut out)
WM Caribou
Pepsi can stove with 1.7L Blacklite pot
(Still searching for a better bear bag, the old one is HEAVY!)
Depends on the amount of Crystal Light and Vodka packed...
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs016.snc1/2637_60735199932_689399932_1419888_380462_n.jpg
(I did not pack the cooler. I do have some standards...)
I think it would be interesting to include body weight, you can't compare a 145 pound hiker to someone that weighs 225. I weigh 148 pounds and my summer pack is about 40 pounds, but I like my luxuries. I consider it being on vacation.
Yeah, I have pretty much given up worrying about shaving ounces from my pack when I am about 20lbs fatter than I should be.
Jester2000
04-09-2009, 15:49
Yeah, I have pretty much given up worrying about shaving ounces from my pack when I am about 20lbs fatter than I should be.
You need to get on board with my "From the Skin In" philosophy, which involves trimming weight inside your body. Appendix, tonsils, even a kidney and part of your liver. Ditch 'em.
I'll be playing in GA this weekend. All my gear + food and water is 32#. That includes my camp chair and my heavy external frame pack.
I'll be playing in GA this weekend. All my gear + food and water is 32#. That includes my camp chair and my heavy external frame pack.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Especially since it includes some creature comforts...a nice place to sit at the end of the day is priceless sometimes.
Old Grouse
04-09-2009, 20:53
You need to get on board with my "From the Skin In" philosophy, which involves trimming weight inside your body. Appendix, tonsils, even a kidney and part of your liver. Ditch 'em.
Don't know about the rest, but the pathology report on my kidney said it weighed 8 oz. So there's a big saving right there!:)
Don't know about the rest, but the pathology report on my kidney said it weighed 8 oz. So there's a big saving right there!:)
And you've got 2 so if your willing to undergo dialysis every other day (an excuse for town days anyway) that would be a full 1 pound of savings! As for other items, If your liver is healthy it's maybe 2 pounds tops. But, if you are a heavy drinker, your liver is likely closer to 4 pounds! Like Homer Simpson said, "I'll just donate one of my livers".
The head of hair and full beard that so many of us acquire on a long hike probably slows us down both with weight and aerodynamics.
That's where the next great improvements in pack design will come from anyway, aerodynamics are where its at man! A new Gossamer Gear "Aero - Lite" will have negative weight due to a helium filled bladder actually causing 4 ounces of lift (don't leave an empty pack unattended) and it will have an aero fairing like a cycling time trial helmet that also functions as a rain cover. These improvements will allow the user to hike 0.1 mph faster and will only set you back something like $824.95! Man, aint the future great. :)
That's where the next great improvements in pack design will come from anyway, aerodynamics are where its at man! A new Gossamer Gear "Aero - Lite" will have negative weight due to a helium filled bladder actually causing 4 ounces of lift (don't leave an empty pack unattended) and it will have an aero fairing like a cycling time trial helmet that also functions as a rain cover. These improvements will allow the user to hike 0.1 mph faster and will only set you back something like $824.95! Man, aint the future great. :)
No, helium is not the future. I have said it before... hydrogen is the future. Not only will it provide more lift than helium, it is also combustible so it is multi-purpose as a fuel source! Also, resupply of hydrogen may not ever be necessary if those guys at MIT can master the process they demonstrated last summer using solar power to perform electrolysis in a couple of shot glasses. Can you just imagine running a stove off of water and solar power!
http://uk.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUKN3145191020080731?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0
You need to get on board with my "From the Skin In" philosophy, which involves trimming weight inside your body. Appendix, tonsils, even a kidney and part of your liver. Ditch 'em.
Way ahead of you on the appendix and tonsils, they're already gone! Thinking about having my tailbone shortened as well, no reason to carry a vestigial tail, and that bone weight really adds up quickly.
:welcome30lbs
Dont pay any attention to the negative posts.
Mine weighs -30 pounds, but don't pay any attention. :sun
Phoenixdadeadhead
04-26-2009, 13:31
Yeah the pole was off, my pack is 27 pounds fully loaded lol
Spirit Walker
04-26-2009, 18:03
With food and water or without? Without either, my packweight is between 15 and 20, depending on season. With food and water - well, it depends on where I am hiking and when. We hike places where we have to carry either a lot of water or a lot of food, so it can get pretty heavy. On the AT, that's usually not such an issue.
22-25 lbs, depending on camera and other optionals, w/4 days of food and 2 qts. water, sharing weight of some items w/my better half. Good down to temps in 20s.
Laurie P.
Depends when I on level ground or going downhill seem to be light as a feather, going up a mountain seems to be as light as an elephant<O:p</O:p
My pack weight without water and food is 17 pounds. If I want to throw another $500 at it I can get the weight to 12 pounds. But then I would not be able to afford to hike next month.
normal weight is 45-55 pounds like my kitchen sink,been a ultra lighter my first yr ,ofcourse not knowing what the heck I was doing.Just slowed me down a little.ky
Wolf - 23000
04-27-2009, 12:02
35+
LW,
35+ You should add a few more + to that. You have never been one to travel even close to mid or lightweight. :) It all good. It is just the way you like backpacking.
Wolf
Wolf - 23000
04-27-2009, 12:05
Who made up this poll? Starting at 35 pounds is crazy talk. There are some of us that would not even carry a fourth of that for our pack weight unless someone told us to do so. My Uncle is very good at doing that. :)
Wolf
Gray Blazer
04-27-2009, 13:49
My pack weight without water and food is 17 pounds. If I want to throw another $500 at it I can get the weight to 12 pounds. But then I would not be able to afford to hike next month.
And that is the reason I'll never be a real hiker.
was 19 lbs in the box sent via UPS to Hiker Hostel.
was 26 lbs on scale at Neel's Gap.