hootyhoo
02-21-2009, 10:16
Someone asked me what the weight was on this stove--- Here's the answer....
As it comes from the store - 12 ounces on my scale. That weight is with a new, never used burner and a slightly soiled ?windshield?.REI lists it at 12.18 (if you add it yourself). Windshield - I call it a burner holder, because that is about all it does. But I also noted that it operated better when in that holder - the heat seems to be retained and it burned better. I also noted that when cooking delicate items like pancakes and eggs overeasy it worked better to snuff the stove and add (cooler fuel) fuel from the bottle. It made simmering work like a charm. On a few occasions I did add approx 10 % water to the fuel, as suggested, but I could not tell a difference. I may continue to investigate that. I even use mine to heat the dogs Ramen at home. We sit in the driveway and cook. I have probably cooked over 400 times on that stove in last year - I always cook breakfast and dinner when camping and then use it at home sometimes. Its just too easy - open -throw a spark - cook- snuff. It takes longer to fill the pot than it does to light the stove. Folks say white gas is faster - but think about this - lets say you want tea at a quick lunch stop. Think about all that is involved to get a whisperlite burning. By that time my water is almost heated. Also, the Trangia cools faster - you can pick it up right after you snuff it - especially if you re-fuel it. Whitegas --(primus excluded) when you unscrew the pump from the pressurized fuel bottle there is lost fuel - some in the environment and some on your pourous skin. Then think about shaking all that nasty smelling fuel out of the fuel line before can pack the whisperlite. And most times you get it on your hands. Now when you eat lunch with gas hands your meal tastes like gas. Yummy! I'm not knocking white gas, but lets be realistic -there's good and bad sides to everything. One drawback to the mini trangia design is that the simmer ring cannot be fully opened when it is in the wndshield - the pot supports get in the way. There are maleable tabs inside the windshield that you can fold down and shove the stove to one side - that gives more room, but the simmer ring still cannot be fully opened - if it is it will not sit all the way down. And closing the tabs may/may not reduce oxygen - most likely not??
I have always used the mini just as it comes with the additon of my fooil windshield. Another observation is that just before boil happens on the mini the flames get bigger and bigger. As everything inside the foil windshield (that I made) gets hotter the temp of fuel rises, producing more vapors and more flame. Experience is limited thus far with the 27, but I think the 27 has this issue under control. The temperature of stove and fuel seems to be more stabilized and less affected by what is happening to the item being cooked. For instance - when using the fry pan on the mini it is about an inch above the flame - on the 27 it is about 5 inches above flame, so it appears that the heat inside the windshield remains more stabilized on the 27 - which may result in less flare up and better fuel consumption. Also gives a more stable temp that requires less tinkering with the simmer ring. On the mini I had developed little tricks to maintain consistent simmer temps. I am already noticing on the 27 that you can set the simmer ring and temp will not change until fuel level noticeably drops - giving a more consistent temp over a longer period of time.
And a k-mart grease pot has the same size opening - so the lid will fit, or the just drop the entire mini 28 in the grease pot and you have two cook pots. The grease pot gives a little more capacity if used instead of .8L trangia pot. But the bottom is not rounded.
I just got a 27-3ul so that I could do more elaborate cooking on some trips. I cooked bacon and eggs in the garage for breakfast yesterday. The boil time was unbelievable. I need to time it. All the heat is trapped in that big wndshield. And the heat when using the frypan was way more than I am accustomed to. I am already happy with it. I boiled a liter of water for coffee, fried 4 slices thick bacon, and scrambled 4 eggs - at the end the burner was almost half full. So I had a little more remaining fuel than I normally would have - not a very scientific comparison. I plan to put both side by side and test boil times. Blah blah blah....
Yeah, so any ways -- 12 ounces.
As it comes from the store - 12 ounces on my scale. That weight is with a new, never used burner and a slightly soiled ?windshield?.REI lists it at 12.18 (if you add it yourself). Windshield - I call it a burner holder, because that is about all it does. But I also noted that it operated better when in that holder - the heat seems to be retained and it burned better. I also noted that when cooking delicate items like pancakes and eggs overeasy it worked better to snuff the stove and add (cooler fuel) fuel from the bottle. It made simmering work like a charm. On a few occasions I did add approx 10 % water to the fuel, as suggested, but I could not tell a difference. I may continue to investigate that. I even use mine to heat the dogs Ramen at home. We sit in the driveway and cook. I have probably cooked over 400 times on that stove in last year - I always cook breakfast and dinner when camping and then use it at home sometimes. Its just too easy - open -throw a spark - cook- snuff. It takes longer to fill the pot than it does to light the stove. Folks say white gas is faster - but think about this - lets say you want tea at a quick lunch stop. Think about all that is involved to get a whisperlite burning. By that time my water is almost heated. Also, the Trangia cools faster - you can pick it up right after you snuff it - especially if you re-fuel it. Whitegas --(primus excluded) when you unscrew the pump from the pressurized fuel bottle there is lost fuel - some in the environment and some on your pourous skin. Then think about shaking all that nasty smelling fuel out of the fuel line before can pack the whisperlite. And most times you get it on your hands. Now when you eat lunch with gas hands your meal tastes like gas. Yummy! I'm not knocking white gas, but lets be realistic -there's good and bad sides to everything. One drawback to the mini trangia design is that the simmer ring cannot be fully opened when it is in the wndshield - the pot supports get in the way. There are maleable tabs inside the windshield that you can fold down and shove the stove to one side - that gives more room, but the simmer ring still cannot be fully opened - if it is it will not sit all the way down. And closing the tabs may/may not reduce oxygen - most likely not??
I have always used the mini just as it comes with the additon of my fooil windshield. Another observation is that just before boil happens on the mini the flames get bigger and bigger. As everything inside the foil windshield (that I made) gets hotter the temp of fuel rises, producing more vapors and more flame. Experience is limited thus far with the 27, but I think the 27 has this issue under control. The temperature of stove and fuel seems to be more stabilized and less affected by what is happening to the item being cooked. For instance - when using the fry pan on the mini it is about an inch above the flame - on the 27 it is about 5 inches above flame, so it appears that the heat inside the windshield remains more stabilized on the 27 - which may result in less flare up and better fuel consumption. Also gives a more stable temp that requires less tinkering with the simmer ring. On the mini I had developed little tricks to maintain consistent simmer temps. I am already noticing on the 27 that you can set the simmer ring and temp will not change until fuel level noticeably drops - giving a more consistent temp over a longer period of time.
And a k-mart grease pot has the same size opening - so the lid will fit, or the just drop the entire mini 28 in the grease pot and you have two cook pots. The grease pot gives a little more capacity if used instead of .8L trangia pot. But the bottom is not rounded.
I just got a 27-3ul so that I could do more elaborate cooking on some trips. I cooked bacon and eggs in the garage for breakfast yesterday. The boil time was unbelievable. I need to time it. All the heat is trapped in that big wndshield. And the heat when using the frypan was way more than I am accustomed to. I am already happy with it. I boiled a liter of water for coffee, fried 4 slices thick bacon, and scrambled 4 eggs - at the end the burner was almost half full. So I had a little more remaining fuel than I normally would have - not a very scientific comparison. I plan to put both side by side and test boil times. Blah blah blah....
Yeah, so any ways -- 12 ounces.