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joeboxer
03-23-2009, 12:17
I know this may seem childish, but does anyone ever still get a little paranoid/terrified in the woods, at night, alone? :D
Absolutely. My Solution (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=47782).
Lone Wolf
03-23-2009, 12:20
no. i have my pistol at the ready. shoot first, inquire later
Many Walks
03-23-2009, 12:20
Was as a kid...the USMC cured me of that! I sleep like a baby in the woods.
UnkaJesse
03-23-2009, 12:23
Only if I'm close to a road that a Camaro could make it down.
Not afraid at all,I know many people that are though. Especially when they hear a noise.
Nope, I often sit out without a campfire or light on at night and just take in the sounds and stars and moon (when there is one).
mtnkngxt
03-23-2009, 12:41
Sometimes, but so far nothings happened to me. Hope to just keep that trend.
no. i have my pistol at the ready. shoot first, inquire later
you thru hiked with a pistol? Im guessing either a glock or springfield XD? how well did it hold being out in the elements so long? and were you able to keep it dry the whole time?
I'm not afraid of the dark. I am occassionally afraid in the dark. I like the rush.
Blissful
03-23-2009, 13:17
My hubby got this way, esp in confined spaces like a tent. Much rather prefers being in a hammock.
Me, I wear earplugs so I don't hear the noises at night, like animals moving around (which they do and that can get to me).
Cannibal
03-23-2009, 13:17
I've had moments that I was sure the boogey-man was coming for me, but they are the exception; probably from eating that town food that had been in my pack a couple of days.:eek:
Turtlehiker
03-23-2009, 13:19
I'm not afraid of the dark! It's the monsters that are lurking around in the dark that I am afraid of.
Only have problems when I bring my girl with me. "Whats that?!?!" ---nothing go back to sleep. LW has it right in my eye. .38s&w snub--my preference
psh. guns. some marines you are. what ever happened to destroying things with your hands? lemme see yer war face.
superman
03-23-2009, 13:31
I couldn't tell you. I was asleep by the time my head touched my pillow (clothes bag). By the time I got up to pee in the middle of the night the monsters had already gone to bed. Winter has always been afraid of the dark so I had to go out and hold my futon light for her while she peed.:)
middle to middle
03-23-2009, 13:36
I used to live in the City and the night noise there doesn't bother me. The first night in the woods the crickets were a defining loud noise. Not much bothers me now except the single loud thump noises. In the big cities its the sirens and the early am garbage trucks. But I can mostly sleep through it all.
Yes, I totally am. I've only been out for 3-5 night trips before so not long enough to get used to night noises. Thru-hike this year will probably cure that though! I can't imagine still being scared of the usual night noises a month into the hike, you just get used to them eventually. My boyfriend isn't much help either. I'm the girlfriend that goes "what's that!?!?!" and instead of saying "nothing, go back to bed" he goes "I don't know!?!?! I'm scared too!!!"
saimyoji
03-23-2009, 13:53
psh. guns. some marines you are. what ever happened to destroying things with your hands? lemme see yer war face.
ask homer to show you his O face. :)
I was afraid my first time. But then its just fun.
Was as a kid...the USMC cured me of that! I sleep like a baby in the woods.Amen. 4 years in the Corps will do ya good.
.......some marines you are......That's Marines with a capital M. Get it right sweet thang.
no. i have my pistol at the ready. shoot first, inquire laterMakes mental note . . . "Do not night hike up to where LW is camping" . . . got it! :eek: :D
psh. guns. some marines you are. what ever happened to destroying things with your hands? lemme see yer war face.
To our resident Marines--from the movie "Full Metal Jacket"--a Rifleman's Bedtime Prayer:
"This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it, as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it....until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen." :)
Many Walks
03-23-2009, 14:55
Amen! My Brothers, 50 Cal, M16, and Blooper were my VERY BEST friends for 20 mos. in VN. Over there we didn't sleep much as every noise in the night really was someone trying to kill us. I sleep just fine in the woods over here because a night noise is probably just a bear sniffing around the tent. Nothing to worry about, just another pack sniffer.
haven't really been scared of the dark exactly, since i was a kid, but sometimes i still do get that weird feeling like there's something watching me and my hair stands all up. i hike with dogs, though, so if they're not upset i don't really worry about it.
haven't really been scared of the dark exactly, since i was a kid, but sometimes i still do get that weird feeling like there's something watching me and my hair stands all up. i hike with dogs, though, so if they're not upset i don't really worry about it.
I wish I was a dog person for that reason alone... When I get that feeling that causes my "hair to stand up", I usually take that as a sign that my long unused pre civilized insticts are trying to tell me something... And I always listen, and move on quickly, even if that means striking camp and moving on.. Most times i'm sure it's nothing, and having a dog around as an instinct barometer would be a nice peice of security..
I wish I was a dog person for that reason alone... When I get that feeling that causes my "hair to stand up", I usually take that as a sign that my long unused pre civilized insticts are trying to tell me something... And I always listen, and move on quickly, even if that means striking camp and moving on.. Most times i'm sure it's nothing, and having a dog around as an instinct barometer would be a nice peice of security..
That's one reason i like to hike with Phoebe. Since an incident a few years ago when i had sudden hearing loss (profound in one ear, minimal in the other), I'm pretty much oblivious to things going on around me... I figure if she's not "at alert," then there's nothing to worry about, and most of the time she is alerted to something, it's a bird, squirrel, or insect....
From ghoulies and ghosties
And long-leggedy beasties
And things that go bump in the night,
Good Lord, deliver us!
Glebbber
03-23-2009, 15:16
I am that which scares in the night.
CrumbSnatcher
03-23-2009, 15:21
i was so used to hiking with my dog til i lost her last year, she would always let me know when someone/something was around. we night hiked alot to stay cool! but was never to scared in the dark. alot more scared of running out of mountain money(TP).:D
I wish I was a dog person for that reason alone... When I get that feeling that causes my "hair to stand up", I usually take that as a sign that my long unused pre civilized insticts are trying to tell me something... And I always listen, and move on quickly, even if that means striking camp and moving on.. Most times i'm sure it's nothing, and having a dog around as an instinct barometer would be a nice peice of security..
yeah, my girls don't get excited about much so if they're at attention, something is really wrong. roots and i did a hike last fall and had coyotes circling our tents for hours. the girls just raised their heads once and then went right back to sleep since it was something they're used to and didn't feel threatened by. the only time my old blue heeler freaked out was after we made camp one night about 15 years ago and some weird freak walked up on our campsite. she absolutely lost it and i had to tackle her to keep her from tearing into him. never saw her like that again in her 13 years of life. he would not leave the camp and she would not settle down and the guys had to forcefully get him to go. that dog stayed up all night in the front of the tent on full alert. turns out several days down the trail, we heard reports of this guy where people were having major problems with the guy bothering them too and seeing him in the shelter practicing what he called "black majic". baaaadd mojo and that dog knew it.
Lone Wolf
03-23-2009, 15:35
To our resident Marines--from the movie "Full Metal Jacket"--a Rifleman's Bedtime Prayer:
"This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it, as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it....until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen." :)
Rifleman's Creed. Not prayer
http://www.usmcpress.com/heritage/marine_corps_rifleman's_creed.htm
Lone Wolf sleeps with a night light. It is not because Lone Wolf is afraid of the dark. It is because the dark is afraid of Lone Wolf.
Rifleman's Creed. Not prayer
http://www.usmcpress.com/heritage/marine_corps_rifleman's_creed.htm (http://www.usmcpress.com/heritage/marine_corps_rifleman%27s_creed.htm)
Hey, what more do you expect from a wimpy Army Chaplain? I was lucky to get as much right in that post as I did!
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Lone Wolf
03-23-2009, 15:44
Hey, what more do you expect from a wimpy Army Chaplain? I was lucky to get as much right in that post as I did!
Semper Gumby! (Always Flexible!):sun
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you done good for an Army dog
Many Walks
03-23-2009, 16:01
I honestly believe there are folks who won't hike because of the fear of night noises. Just a thought for folks who don't hike with dogs or weapons and just can't get any sleep in the woods because of EVERY noise. It would be easy to set a little trip wire (para cord or fish line) about 18-20" off the ground around your tent 15-20' out that would dislodge a wedged rock or stick when tripped. With that you only have one noise to listen for and should be able to train yourself to ignore the rest. Just don't wander out too far to pee or you'll probably scare yourself. Ok guys, call it stupid, but it may be better for someone than getting no rest and stopping a hike. Enjoy the journey!
Amen! My Brothers, 50 Cal, M16, and Blooper were my VERY BEST friends for 20 mos. in VN. Over there we didn't sleep much as every noise in the night really was someone trying to kill us. I sleep just fine in the woods over here because a night noise is probably just a bear sniffing around the tent. Nothing to worry about, just another pack sniffer.
50 Cal, M16 ? I'd like to have one of them bad boys. :banana
afraid of the dark?
rarely is it really dark. keep the dang light off and you might be surprised how much you can see.
keep you mind open and you will see even more :)
Many Walks
03-23-2009, 17:38
Kanati, Ya, they were pretty sweet. I took care of them and they took care of me. Can't forget the Blooper (M79 Grenade Launcher), that was a nice piece! I bet you'd like one of those little guys too.
Earl Grey
03-23-2009, 19:04
It would be kind of funny if people who had guns shot themselves while asleep because they feel they need one to protect themselves in the woods.
Lone Wolf
03-23-2009, 19:07
It would be kind of funny if people who had guns shot themselves while asleep because they feel they need one to protect themselves in the woods.
no ****!. i shot my right calf 5 years ago. took a long time to heal
triggers don't pull themselves...
it takes me about a night to get reacclimated to night noises, but once i'm 'there', like someone said earlier, you can train yourself to ignore a lot of the noises... never thought about the tripwire thing though... good idea.
Hikes in Rain
03-23-2009, 20:56
Scared of the dark? Of course not! Not as long as I have my headlamp. And my little candle lantern. And the light stick, just in case. But scared of the dark? Pshaw!
after dark where i live, i hear the wind, the owls and the coyotes when i go to bed most nights... it is the mornings, when i hear the loud 'i don't want to go to school' whining, that is what i fear :)
It would be kind of funny if people who had guns shot themselves while asleep because they feel they need one to protect themselves in the woods.
Why is that funny?
stranger
03-23-2009, 21:42
Of course, actually, that's one of the main benefits of a tent, cause, as we all know the boogie man can't figure zippers out! Where as with a tarp he can just poke his head under and get you.
For real though, I'm uneasy at times, it's a legit thing for some of us
superman
03-23-2009, 21:45
Somebody tell him about the hiker that woke up to a find the one handed crazy, criminals hook caught in the tent zipper.:)
walking around manhattan at night is scary, ask dan rather
i worked with a woman from brooklyn who asked me, 'aren't you afraid the bears are going to eat you?'
i asked her, 'how many times did you say you were mugged?' she answered, 'eleven'.
there is nothing to be afraid of in the woods... usually
sheepdog
03-23-2009, 22:34
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oh my! :cool:
hootyhoo
03-23-2009, 22:40
I am afraid of the Government (very afraid), but me and the dark have no problem.
Hiking, alone for long periods in the dark does invoke some strong feelings. You never know what you might step on or run into out there in the dark. And its even worse when you have a dog with you - hiking in the dark.
Yes. Of other people, not animals. Well...some of the time.
I had a gun (not on the AT) and realized how jumpy I was when I heard a loon for the first time in Maine, then realized I was freaking out over a bird. I was in a remote campground and had my car. I felt really stupid the next morining when I realized there was a ranger on site. I did not see the place when I arrived after dark and had gone to some trouble to hide from other campers since I was alone and female.
One of my WW2 veteran relatives told me when I was young, 'the dark is your friend' and I have always remembered that so when I am alone I try to tuck away in the dark and unnoticed. But I don't like camping alone anyway. The fun part of the AT section was all the people I met.
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It would be kind of funny if people who had guns shot themselves while asleep because they feel they need one to protect themselves in the woods.
Why is that funny?
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I think the correct word is "ironic". Nothing funny about getting shot. I was in the hospital back in the '70s next to a guy who shot himself in the thigh with a high powered rifle while going after a b&e guy. The guy got away, and several skin and muscle grafts later, it was still uncertain whether or not the guy (at the time about 25) would keep his leg. Not funny at all.
Me? I had an infected finger :p. Yes, I recovered fully.
no ****!. i shot my right calf 5 years ago. took a long time to heal
So, Lone Wolf's REAL name is actually Barney Fife! I knew it! :D
walking around manhattan at night is scary, ask dan rather
"Kenneth, what is the frequency!" (an inside "joke"for those who remember the alleged Dan Rather mugging from 1986!).
drastic_quench
03-24-2009, 00:53
"Kenneth, what is the frequency!" (an inside "joke"for those who remember the alleged Dan Rather mugging from 1986!).
Supposedly it happened, and they figured out the people responsible:
"Kenneth, what is the frequency?"
On October 4, 1986, as Rather was walking along Park Avenue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Avenue_%28Manhattan%29) in Manhattan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan) to his apartment, he was attacked and punched from behind by a man who demanded to know, "Kenneth, what is the frequency?", while a second assailant also chased and beat him. As the assailant pummeled and kicked Rather, he kept repeating the question over and over again. In describing the incident, Rather said, "I got mugged. Who understands these things? I didn't and I don't now. I didn't make a lot of it at the time and I don't now. I wish I knew who did it and why, but I have no idea."
The incident and Rather's account led some to doubt the veracity of Rather's story, although the doorman and building supervisor who rescued Rather fully confirmed his version of events. The story entered popular lore and remained unsolved for some time. The incident inspired a song called "Kenneth, What's the Frequency?" by the band Game Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Theory_%28band%29) in 1987. In October 1990, the phrase "What's the frequency, Kenneth?" appeared in an issue of the Daniel Clowes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Clowes) comic Eightball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eightball)[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#cite_note-52) as part of the serialised graphic novel Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Like_a_Velvet_Glove_Cast_in_Iron), and was revealed in a later episode to be a key part of the Mister Jones conspiracy theory[54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#cite_note-53). In 1994 the band R.E.M. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.E.M.) released the song "What's the Frequency, Kenneth? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_the_Frequency,_Kenneth%3F)" on the album Monster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_%28R.E.M._album%29). The phrase became the subject of many jokes over the years and slang for a confused or clueless person. Rather was a good sport about it, and actually sang with R.E.M. during a soundcheck prior to a gig at Madison Square Garden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Square_Garden), New York, which was shown the following night on The Late Show With David Letterman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late_Show_With_David_Letterman) before their performance of Crush With Eyeliner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush_With_Eyeliner).
In 1997, a TV critic writing in the New York Daily News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Daily_News) solved the mystery, and published a photo of the alleged assailant, William Tager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tager). Rather confirmed the story: "There's no doubt in my mind that this is the person." "William Tager's identity as the man who attacked Mr. Rather was established in the course of an investigation by my office", said New York District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau[55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#cite_note-54). Tager also admitted assaulting Rather. Tager is currently serving a 25-year prison sentence for killing NBC stagehand Campbell Montgomery outside The Today Show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_%28NBC_program%29) studio in 1994.
In the December 2001 issue of Harper's Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper%27s_Magazine), writer Paul Limbert Allman (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Limbert_Allman&action=edit&redlink=1) concluded that Professor Donald Barthelme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Barthelme) (who died in 1989) had somehow orchestrated the attack through other unnamed persons, citing unusual passages in Barthelme's writing, including the phrase "What is the frequency?", a recurring character named Kenneth, and a short story about a pompous editor named Lather.[56] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#cite_note-55) The article was adapted into two plays, both entitled "Kenneth, What is the Frequency?" The first was by Ian Allen and Monique LaForce and debuted in Washington, D.C., in 2003.[57] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#cite_note-56) The second, written by Allman himself, premiered in Edinburgh, Scotland, in 2004.[58] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#cite_note-57)
In the 2006-07 graphic novel Shooting War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_War), the fictional Dan Rather of the year 2011 it portrays has adopted the personal motto, "The frequency is courage." In the 2006 film Land of the Blind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Blind), the phrase briefly appears on a blackboard in a re-education camp for opponents of the dystopian regime led by Donald Sutherland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Sutherland).[59] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#cite_note-58)
vamelungeon
03-24-2009, 01:01
Anyone who says they don't get spooked sometimes in the dark in the woods has never had a screech owl 10 feet away let loose with it's "call."
the first time i heard a loon calling in the middle of the night was a little spooky
atvs and gunshots less than 100 yds away at 2am was downright scary
4eyedbuzzard
03-24-2009, 08:58
no ****!. i shot my right calf 5 years ago. took a long time to heal
So, Lone Wolf's REAL name is actually Barney Fife! I knew it! :D
Or Plaxico Burress.
Anyone ever hear a bob cat scream in the middle of the night? It sounds like a woman screaming bloody murder in a Friday 13th flick! The couple of times it's happened where I was, other campers in the area got up, packed up, and left in the night! :eek:
4eyedbuzzard
03-24-2009, 09:49
Anyone ever hear a bob cat scream in the middle of the night? It sounds like a woman screaming bloody murder in a Friday 13th flick! The couple of times it's happened where I was, other campers in the area got up, packed up, and left in the night! :eek:
LOL. I used to hear mountain lions out in the bush(for lack of better description) at night at a place I worked in Utah. Like a purring kitty kat only an octave lower...:eek:
Little screech owls still freak me out the first time they screech at night.
middle to middle
03-24-2009, 10:03
A screech owl will reset your clock the first time it goes off.
yeah, my girls don't get excited about much so if they're at attention, something is really wrong. roots and i did a hike last fall and had coyotes circling our tents for hours. the girls just raised their heads once and then went right back to sleep since it was something they're used to and didn't feel threatened by. the only time my old blue heeler freaked out was after we made camp one night about 15 years ago and some weird freak walked up on our campsite. she absolutely lost it and i had to tackle her to keep her from tearing into him. never saw her like that again in her 13 years of life. he would not leave the camp and she would not settle down and the guys had to forcefully get him to go. that dog stayed up all night in the front of the tent on full alert. turns out several days down the trail, we heard reports of this guy where people were having major problems with the guy bothering them too and seeing him in the shelter practicing what he called "black majic". baaaadd mojo and that dog knew it.
In my experience, dogs are good judges of character. If they take a dislike to someone take heed.
Anyone ever hear a bob cat scream in the middle of the night? It sounds like a woman screaming bloody murder in a Friday 13th flick! The couple of times it's happened where I was, other campers in the area got up, packed up, and left in the night! :eek:
I heard something like that once, said 'nah', turned over and went back to sleep.
superman
03-24-2009, 10:22
In my experience, dogs are good judges of character. If they take a dislike to someone take heed.
A few years ago I sold a motorcycle to a guy from massachusetts on a Sunday and took a personal check. I did that because my dog liked the guy. I had no trouble cashing the check.
atvs and gunshots less than 100 yds away at 2am was downright scary
For sure! Had a similar event - that was about the worst night I ever had in the woods. Even the mice didn't come out that night.
I have not, but family members have heard some kind a big cat scream in the middle of the night and it scared them to the point we have heard about it for years. The Unlcles were all broke down all night in the middle of nowhere woods and this was their tale. It sounded like a woman being murdered in their words.
One night a couple of years ago, we heard a prolonged death scream and later figured it was an owl getting something since we heard screech owls doing their whinney before. We still laugh about that one....women camping:
Q. WHAT-THE-H---L WAS THAT????
A. Something died. Violently. (laughing) I dont want to know.
Q. What could make that sound?
A. Some animal killing another animal but I am not going out to check. You want to?
Q. No way. (laughing).
Has anyone mentioned that "The Dark" is afraid of Lone Wolf? :D
oh......that's another thread. :p