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Alaskanhkr23
04-11-2009, 11:55
Anyone think a small airhorn will work on black bears? dont wanna go leathalor to hurt the bear.plus doese mass have trouble with black bears? no right?

Deadeye
04-11-2009, 12:03
I think you'd have a hard time getting the bear to wear the horn, they like to sneak up on things.

Generally, bears are not a big problem in New England 'cause we still shoot them. You do get an occassional problem bear (like at Seth Warner shelter a couple years back).

Fiddleback
04-11-2009, 12:06
Fear...presumably the point behind using the blast of an air horn close up, can cause unintended reactions. A sudden blast from an air horn might cause the bear to lash out/attack. If on the other hand, one contemplates sounding the air horn periodically to clear bears from the trail ahead that might work...and cause fellow hikers in the area to lash out/attack.:D

FB

Alaskanhkr23
04-11-2009, 12:26
LOL!!! nah i just dont wanna bring my 460S&w ,im so used to grizzlies that i havent dealt with many black bear maybe once or twice but from my EXP they run pretty quickly

Wise Old Owl
04-11-2009, 13:40
Fear...presumably the point behind using the blast of an air horn close up, can cause unintended reactions. A sudden blast from an air horn might cause the bear to lash out/attack. If on the other hand, one contemplates sounding the air horn periodically to clear bears from the trail ahead that might work...and cause fellow hikers in the area to lash out/attack.:D

FB

Uhh interesting thought, I cannot argue that point, but an air horn is an interesting idea, but FB you have me questioning something, when hunters & rangers go into the woods they use bottle rockets & a special gun that fires a whistle / bang to scare the bears. Its simmilar to a flare device.

On the other hand a air horn might be a call for help.

Sly
04-11-2009, 13:56
im so used to grizzlies that i havent dealt with many black bear maybe once or twice but from my EXP they run pretty quickly

If you're used to griz you should have no fear of black bear. Just tent away from problem areas and sleep with your food. If you feel the need to hang, use the PCT method.

Alaskanhkr23
04-11-2009, 13:56
yeah thats true,even whistles work but thats SOS too

daddytwosticks
04-11-2009, 14:52
Air horn use will earn you a new trailname for sure! :)

fehchet
04-11-2009, 15:26
I've used a shrill whistle for years. Works most of the time. I wear it around my neck.
Once I almost got sprayed by a skunk because of the whistling but as soon as I stopped it decided to lower its rump and move on.
fawaaaamp is a good trail name.

Captain
04-11-2009, 16:07
Air horn use will earn you a new trailname for sure! :)

"he who walks with many trekking poles up bum" I.E. prince charles

Alaskanhkr23
04-11-2009, 16:14
LOL ill just walk with a loaded 460 then,hey and yes Fawaaamp is a good nick name lmfao!!!!!!!!

Fiddleback
04-11-2009, 19:45
Uhh interesting thought, I cannot argue that point, but an air horn is an interesting idea, but FB you have me questioning something, when hunters & rangers go into the woods they use bottle rockets & a special gun that fires a whistle / bang to scare the bears. Its simmilar to a flare device.

On the other hand a air horn might be a call for help.

How it's being used might make a difference. If the devices are tossed in the general direction of a bear than I can see how they might drive the animal off. If it's an aggressive 'encounter'...the bear is rapidly approaching...than something else is probably a better choice. In any case, the bottle rockets and 'crackers' and such would be prohibited around here most of the bp'ing season due to the fire danger.

FYI, within the past couple seasons in this area, we're seeing more and more reports about rifle fire attracting grizzlys. It seems the bears have learned to associate gunfire with hunters and hunters with gut piles which, of course, are good eatin' if you're a griz.:)

When I was active in the MD/VA/WV area black bears were seldom seen, not a problem, and not worthy of precautions. I have no idea how those teddys behave and react today...

FB

sheepdog
04-11-2009, 21:59
Air horn use will earn you a new trailname for sure! :)
I think more like "truck driver" or "18 wheeler"

man2th
04-11-2009, 22:22
they make what is called patient fall alarms ( incase they fall from bed or out of a wheelchair) they have a pull pin, i use it as a tripwire under my bearbag,,,havnt missed a meal yet

Alaskanhkr23
04-11-2009, 22:34
Man2th great idea,And why do people wanna give me a nickname ,truck drivers a good one i kinda have the mutton chops beard like one LOL i like it-sheepdog