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Doctari
06-14-2004, 15:18
Or wish list or ???

Ok, you have done the research, talked to other users, and even tried some of the stuff out.
What would be YOUR “Perfect” gear list? Assuming unlimited funds naturally. Also, how close are you to that ideal gear list? I am mostly asking for the fun of it, but also with the hope of getting some ideas or goals to reach for. I will list my dream gear with what I already have as “(have)”. Should be fun.

Backpack: P1 or Gearskin
Sleeping bag: A 30° synthetic. Still haven’t decided which one.
Sleeping pad: Blue Ensolite (have)
Tent: Nomad (have) & am considering a Hammock.
Tent stakes: Titanium
Ground cover: “Neat sheet” (have) Doubles as small tarp.
Stove: Homemade alcohol (have) [I start the fire with matches]
Cookset: Wally world grease pot & lid, Lexan spoon, ultralight pot lifter (have)
Hiking shirt summer: Cool max or similar.
Hiking pants: Sport kilt
Underwear: N/A
Hat: Undecided, maybe a “Boonie hat”
Hiking shoes: As the pack weight gets lower I’m considering trail runner type shoes.
Hiking Socks: WOOL, Smart wool or similar (have)
Rain gear [pants & jacket]: Lightweight, not Gore-Tex (have) [pants double as town pants]
Camp shoes: Dance shoes (have)
Camp socks: Liner socks (have)
Sleeping shirt: cotton tee (have)
Sleeping “Shorts”: cotton boxer briefs [plaid] (have)
Swim shorts: Still thinking on that one, may use the sleep shorts, or none.
Sunglasses: haven’t needed them in 366+ miles of the AT, may not carry any.
Camera: 110 film point & shoot (have)
Hiking poles: aluminum ski poles, adjustable (have)
Knife: It’s a very small one, weighs less than 1 Oz, I can’t remember who made it, sorry.

This isn’t my complete list, I left out stuff like: food, water treatment, toys, etc. But its close to my ideal list.

HMMM, after looking at it, I almost have all I want. Surprising!

OK, what’s on your list???

Doctari.

Ramble~On
06-14-2004, 16:48
Summer Gearlist.
WORN
Boonie hat
Extra large blue bandana
Sunglasses
Coolmax SS shirt
Watch
Tracks Hiking Staff w/ P36 space modulator anti dog device.
Nike Running shorts
Merino Wool socks
OR Gaiters
Scarpa Delta boots

Golite Trek Pack
Golite Trig II Tent-with stakes
Therma Rest full size Guide Ultra Light
Granite Gear Squeeze pull top water bottle
Evernew Titanium pot-small
Home made Alcohol Stove w/windscreen
Alcohol in plastic bottle
MSR Dromedary Bag lite w/ hose
1 cup measuring cup, to measure, drink coffee and eat from.
Plastic spoon
Baby size bic lighter
Colibri/Ferrino Ultra light Summer sleeping bag
First aid Kit-small no frills with plastic handle 1oz knife & basic stuff
1oz Nalgene container Toothpaste
toothbrush
Credit Card / Cash
50' 550 Cord
Mountain Hardware rainjacket ? don't remember name--it's light
Columbia rainpants-light
1 pr extra socks
1 pr extra running shorts
Capilene LS shirt
Fleece vest--no name brand extra light
Toilet paper
Homemade trail food in ziplock bags, +Freeze dried, +Adventure Foods
Pur Hiker water filter or chemicals depending on where I'm going
Homemade map with data on backside, water, shelters, mileage, roads, resupply options.
Olympus D-395 Digital Camera
Petzyl Tikka Plus headlamp
2 oz Nalgene each: Sunblock, Insect repellent
Several "airline" bottles Bailey's Irish Cream-gotta have it for coffee
Granite Gear stuff sack to put everything in and use as bear bag
Notice I didn't mention duct tape yet ? cause it's in first aid kit
No: gun, cellphone, dog, wife, campshoes, walkman
Some places I go I carry a GPS...why ? hike with me and I'll show you.
Body wipes (wet nap) in ziplock
And last but not at all least.......WHISKEY :banana

brian
06-14-2004, 16:51
Now, take in mind that I am only 16, and have paid for\made all of the gear myself! This is my dream list becuase it is what I have (or will eventually get), and know how to use. If I put on somebody elses pack, I would be lost in how to USE their gear!

Pack: Gearskin
Sleeping Bag: Feathered Friends Kestrel w\ EPIC(Getting once I reach Eagle)
Pad: 24x30 hammock pad
Shelter: Hennessy Hammock Ultralight Backpacker Asym with MacCat Tarp
Stakes: 9" Aluminum Gutter Nails
Ground Cover: 2'x3' tyvek
Cooking: Alchy Stove w\ custom windscreen, 1L coated al. pot, pot lifter
Hiking Shirt: Coolmax T
Hiking Shirt: Columbia Bathingsuit
Shoes: New Balance 804's
Socks: DeFeet coolmax biking socks
Raingear: Marmot Precip, $5 umbrella (main protection while hiking), Tyvek Pants
Camp Shoes: Waldies
Camp Socks: N\A
Camara: Olympus 550 Digital (xD, not SD...grr!!)
Poles: N\A
Knife: Leatherman Micra


Again, this list is MINE. I have hiked for some longer section hikes, and I love it. Everything I need, not much else I dont. It is my dream list becuase its what I know to use. Would I want a $500 silnylon tent? No! Not when I can make my own tarp and sleep under my own hammock.

Brian
Future Thru Hiker 2013

Pencil Pusher
06-14-2004, 17:40
Well if it's a wishlist, then here's mine:

Cell phone
Cash
Credit card
Water bottle

Bribe everyone on the trail for whatever you need. Carry no pack or tent, just continue to bribe for each night's sleeping bag and tent. Move fast so there are new customers each day. Pay for lodging and such in the towns. Use cell phone at road crossing to determine which way to town, or if there is a town.

verber
06-14-2004, 20:27
Cell phone
Cash
Credit card
Water bottle

Bribe everyone on the trail for whatever you need. Carry no pack or tent, just continue to bribe for each night's sleeping bag and tent. Move fast so there are new customers each day. Pay for lodging and such in the towns. Use cell phone at road crossing to determine which way to town, or if there is a town.I would think you would want a small daypack with snacks to munch on. You can't be sure that you will run into people when you are hungry.

There are a number of trails in Europe where is approach is pretty close to practical... without the unpredictability of bribery. Every night you can stay at a decent inn which will have hot food and good beer. Of course, you might want an umbrella or a rain jacket. Oh wait a sec, no rain gear needed. In the case on bad weather just stay at the inn for an extra day, or two, or week.

My actually ideal list is mostly my current list. The list varies depending on a number of parameters. http://www.verber.com/mark/outdoors/gear/backpack.html

A few possible changes to make my list "perfect" though most of these things I won't do given the high cost for very small gains:

LuxuryLite Pack or McHale Pack. From a pure carry comfort perspective I love GG Vapor Trail for typical loads and Osprey Aether 60 for extra large loads (normal load + my daughter's sleeping bag, pad and pillow). The only reason I would change is to get some better features if and only if one of these packs was able to equal or better carry comfort of my existing packs.
Nunatak Down Balaclava to replace my GoLite Snow hat to get better neck coverage.
BPL Coocoon or Patagonia Puffball Micro replacing my aging GoLite Coal. Vest version to replace my dying Puffball Vest.
GoLite Phantom or Montbell Versalight made of eVENT (Doesn't exist yet). Love eVENT. Don't like any of the jackets which are currently availible.
Beyond Fleece Coldplay Jacket or maybe Arc'Teryx Gamma MX Jacket to replace my Marmot ATV Jacket for winter. I would like something that is a bit longer in the torso than the ATV.
Convertable Cloudveil Prospector/Rodeo Pants (Doesn't exist) so I didn't have to choose between pants and shorts.
Patagonia R 0.5 with XStatic or BioSilver to cut down odor (Doesn't exist). I have had good luck with XStatic in lighter weight bases, and I love the weight of the R 0.5
Shoes that are as well vented as sandals, but are as comfortable and protective of toes as my Lowa Tempest Low Hiking shoes. (Doesn't exist: tried sandal/water shoes from lots of Chaco, Teva, Bite, Merrill, and many trail runners. New Balance 803 were close... NB 806 are a step backwards).

TedB
06-14-2004, 21:58
My ideal gear list consists solely of hand crafted gear tailored to the way I like to hike. Each piece of gear would be carefully though out, designed, tested, redesigned, retested until it is perfect. Each piece of gear I would make with loving care, full of memories before I have even taken it into the woods. Each piece of gear would be so familiar that it could easily be fixed, jury rigged, or substituted for in the field, if the situation demands. Just the though of having such a setup puts a smile on my face.

Now my ideal list might not be the lightest, or the fanciest, or the most expensive, or the most high tech, but for me, nothing else could make for a more enjoyable backpacking trip.

So far, I've made some progress to my ideal gear list, although far from having completed it. I have a homemade pack, homemade shelter, homemade stove. I'm still making adjustments on these pieces of gear. I'll likely be making a wind shell sometime soon. Homemade knife would be fun, but that's probably years away.

tlbj6142
06-15-2004, 08:07
The 5# pack gear list on www.backpackinglight.com (http://www.backpackinglight.com/) is fairly easy to achieve (and quite sensible IMHO). It is the knowledge and experience that I wish for more than any single piece of gear.

NOTE: There have been a few improvements (new models, etc.) which could make the above 5# list almost a 4# list.

TJ aka Teej
06-15-2004, 09:28
Here's a gear list for ye;

Mountain Troop Ruck Sack (a framepack)
Air Corp survival tent (soon to be sent home to save several pounds)
Marine Corp poncho
rainhat
"paper mill" blanket (soon to have the tent's zipper added)
Marble Company match safe, compass, sheath knife
sewing kit
snakebite kit
toothbrush (minus handle)
razor
potato sack
Mountain Troop cook kit
spoon
spatula
Little black notebook
Retina camera and case with neck strap
color film
roadmap
Great Smoky Park map
flashlight
comb
Quinsana footpowder
Food for a week- canned milk, tea, oatmeal, cornmeal, canned Vienna sausage,
cheese, bread, brown sugar
Clothing-T shirts, Navy turtleneck, Mountain Cloth pants, wool-cotton socks, Birdshooter boots with the heels shaved off

That gear got a fellow called 'The Crazy One' from Georgia to Maine.

Connie
07-25-2004, 15:01
I would definitely want the great fabrics: nysilk, silnylon, Dyneema, SilLite HG, ToddTex, Sympatex, eVent, Epic, Nextec, Pertex Microlite, Supplex, SolarDry, AquaDry, Xtend, Xstatic, X Scent, Scholler Dynamic, Windstopper N2S, Solstice thermolite Microshed, proprietary fabrics from Paramo and Rhyolite tights from Outdoor Research, British Ventile cloth jacket with trim for wear at the edges, that ultralightest weight waxed cloth seen in european-made ¾ length jackets, alpaca, merino wool, possum, silk, 800-fill down, 3-D synthetic, 4-way stretch lightweight dryskin, nylon microfiber, and a great big worn outside the pants conservative color all one color rayon travel shirt with hidden zipper pockets under the shirt pocket flaps and rollup sleeves with a button and a flap to hold the sleeves up travel-type shirt.

I think lightweight nysilk would be awesome, for products like MontBell makes.

I would like to see a stretch sleeping bag out of nysilk and 800-fill down, in summer loft, and in 3-season loft.

I would love to participate in the design and purchase of materials for a premium ultralight outdoor clothing and soft outdoor products manufacturer!

More. MORE!

My ultimate gear list would have this stuff! Heavy Stuff for work in a downpour.

Really, this is my ideal gear list, right now:

Lightweight Backpacking gear list


GoLite™ Breeze pack, w/Metolius Rope Ranger rope bag shoulder straps
MontBell™ U.L. Super Stretch Down Hugger #7 sleeping bag
Gossamer Gear™ NightLite (torso length) sleeping pad
5x8 Nysilk™ tarp /poncho
kite Tyvek™ groundsheet, with foot pocket, plus no-see-um
screening and ¾ length #3 zip
Mont Belle™ U.L. down jacket liner
Needlesports™ Buffalo Techlite jacket
Leki™ Malaku trekking poles
Technica™ Amphib Torrent shoes
Stephenson's™ warmlite vapor barrier socks
PrAna™ Lt Weight Beanie
PSolar.EX™ facemask
Outdoor Research™ Windy Rose™ Gloves
extra pair: Pearl Izumi™ X-Static™ racing sock
Sunbeam™ SB001 keychain mosquito repellerb
Eagle Creek™ plastic compression sack for dry clothing
Ultra-Light Sports™ finger toothbrushes
Revelation™ toothpowder
floss, small
Lightload™ towel, prefilter
Antigravitygear™ alcohol stove, cookpot w/cozy cookset
Snow Peak™ titanium spork
insulated plastic cup
Platypus™ water bag
two 1-liter Platypus™ in Profile Totes
Platypus™ gravity filter water system caps and tubes
Seychelles™ inline water filter
#2 AirCore™ Spectra, 35'
O.P.™ food bag
Food:
In an ideal world, I would have Backcountry Food eco pouch meals and ADF ready to eat Easi Pouch foods and selections from Mary Jane's Farm and ..and selection of great food stuff on my personal special interest webpage: http://www.ultralightbackpackingetc.info/specializedfood.html

Items Worn or in pockets:

Montrail™ women's Diez Vista, and Good Feet™ insoles
Pearl Izumi™ X-Static racing sock
MiniGaiters™ Trail Racer
Outdoor Research™ Rhyolite Tights
North Face™ long sleeved nylon supplex oversized shirt, in rayon
Cabela's™ Bug-Proof Clothing headnet, and Super Mesh Cap
Bolle™ prescription sunglasses, plus Croakies™
Timex™ Expedition watch (alarm, light, compass, two time zones)
Photon™ Micro-Light II, Lightwave™ Pocket Bright, Timberline™ jackknife
1st aid kit, plus day/night signaling mirror, plus orange smoke, plus Storm™ whistle w/lanyard
McNett™ Aquamira 2-part water treatment drops, in Microdrop™ plastic bottles
Jockey™ Comfies™ microfiber underwear
biodegradable soap, in small squeeze bottle
sunscreen SPF 45, fingernail clippers, Kleenex™ pocket tissues
Lip Rescue™ Tea Tree Oil
Lanolin USP for dry skin
Money, prepaid credit card, ID
Suunto™ M9 Wrist Compass, with sighting slot
Maps: National Geographic TOPO!™ 7.5 series printed on waterproof paper
Aloksak™ map case, with Stormproof™ matches inside
permits

SGT Rock
08-22-2004, 16:05
I am close to my dream list anyway. For the most part here it is:

Carried Clothing:

socks - Wigwam C-T Tour Socks, 2 pair
clothing bag – sil-nylon stuff sack (8x18)
underwear – micro fiber briefs


Rain Gear

jacket and pack cover – Packa
rain mittens - GoreTex mittens - OR rain mittens
rain pants - ProVent Pants
rain socks - Seal Skin socks


Spring/Fall Clothing (30-60 degrees F)

base layer pants - Arc'Teryx Powerstretch Pants
base layer shirt - REI Powerstretch Shirt
warm hat - Wigwam beanie
glove liners - Brigade QM polypro gloves


Winter Clothing (0-30 degrees F)

warm socks – Wigwam hiking socks
mittens – OR P300 mittens
balaclava – Brigade QM polypro neck gaiter
jacket liner – Kennebec insulated pullover
pants liner – Kennebec style insulated pants liner



Kitchen

spoon - Plastic Spoon
Pot cozy – aramid cloth
pot - Snow peak ti pot & foil lid w/scrub sack
stove - modified V8
lighter - flint Wheel and filler
fuel bottle - 9 ounce soda bottle
condiment containers - Bottles (12oz) - oil, & dressing
Water treatment - iodine tablets
cup - Gatorade bowl w/ fiberglass cozy
water bottle - Gatorade bottle w/550 cord loop
water bladder for camp - 100oz platypus - modified
Tabasco bottle – refill dropper bottle
Food Bag - Equinox sil-nylon stuff sack
food containers - Zip lock bags (1 gallon) food
food containers - Zip lock bags (2 gallon) food
Coffee system - coffee filter for making the good stuff
Flask - 16 ounce alcohol bottle


Miscellaneous Pack Items

first aid/repair kit & batteries – homemade pack
photo storage - data card
first aid bag - red sil-nylon sack
emergency fire starter – birthday candles, matches, etc.


Hygiene

toilet paper - 6 sheets = .1 oz, 1.3 ounce total
toilet paper holder - zip lock bag (1/2 gallon)
Pack Towel - Towel mitten
Cleaner - 1 oz Dr Bronners Mint soap and bottle
toothbrush and paste – cut off toothbrush and travel sized toothpaste


Navigation and journal stuff

Journal protection - zip lock bag (1 gallon)
light - LED light - blue (on notebook)
Trail journal – notebook paper
Pen – zebra pen
map – second map for section


Pack, Shelter, Sleeping Gear

Pack - Moonbow Gearskin
liner - Trash Compactor bag
Pad - mummy cut enzolite foam pad 61.5"x28"x1/2"
Sleeping quilt stuffsack - Equinox 7 x 15 Stuff Sack
Ground cloth - emergency blanket (70"x30")
Sleeping Quilt - Hungry Howie New Style Down Quilt
Stake bag and cord - sil-nylon sack with 50’ cord
Stakes - Ti Stakes
Tarp - Hennessy Tarp
Shelter - Hennessy Ultralight A-Sym Hammock
Underquilt - No Sniveling Quilt
Quilt system - shock cords


Luxury Items

Headphone FM radio


Clothing and Gear Worn/Carried

foot gear – Nike Air Pegasus running shoes
Gaiters - Minigators
Socks - Wigwam C-T Tour Socks
Hiking Shirt - WhiteBlaze Shirt
underwear – micro fiber briefs
shorts – SA nylon shorts
hat – Nike cool mesh running hat
ID/money/credit cards & keys – all in a sil-nylon wallet
lighter - Bic
Knife - Leatherman Micra
Watch - Timex Expedition watch (w/electronic compass)
LBE - mesh bag
Good Luck Charm - *dog tags - Army
Poles – Leki Ultralight Ti Trekking Poles
Tape – 100 MPH Tape
Map and camera protection - Zip lock bags (1 gallon)
AT map – map
Guide Book - Sections from book on which I travel
Camera Tripod - Ultrapod camera tripod
Digital Camera - Kodak Easy Share Camera
Bandanna – Packdanna


I own most of this stuff already. I still need to get:

Kennebec Pullover – make it
Kennebec Pants – make it
Leki poles
Hungry Howie New Style Down Quilt – make it


The only things I have to add are stuff to make me a little more comfortable and maybe shave about 1/2 pound from my pack weight. I have hit the point on pack weight that I don't obsess about it, now I am just trying to tweak what makes me more comfortable without going the wrong way on weight. The goal is to start at Springer in March 2009 with 26 pounds for everything including water and 4 days food while having the stuff to have fun.

tlbj6142
08-22-2004, 22:15
Hungry Howie New Style Down Quilt – make itWhat's this? Gotta link?

SGT Rock
08-22-2004, 22:33
The base quilt is here: http://www.thru-hiker.com/MaterialDetail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=MG115&subcat=Kits

Howie posted some design changes he plans to make to his quilt, which should basically make it like the Arc Alpinist. The answer is on this thread: http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3359&highlight=Hungry+Howie

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tlbj6142
08-23-2004, 09:09
I was aware of those changes. Just forgot about them. I just bought the kit from thru-hiker and have....

Built a single layer template. Sewed up a simple foot box and climbed inside for a test. Seems a bit too wide, but everyone says not to make it more narrow so I'll leave the design as is for now. Can always trim it later if I really want to save 0.4oz.
Cut both the outer and inner 0.8 oz ripstop using the same dimensions shown on Howies/thru-hiker's sites. Plus 1" all away around.
And 2" longer. So, the length of the pre-sewn material is 76".
Cut all of the baffle materials 3 5/8" (I'm aiming for a 2.5" baffle height)
I will sew in the baffles tonight and possibly stuff it. I'm still not 100% sure how the foot box goes together even after asking ACYE a few questions on his board (http://www.thru-hiker.com/messageboard.html). And I do plan to leave a hem at the top (a la Risk's version (http://www.imrisk.com/bag/bag.htm)) for a futher draw string at the neck. And 2 pair of small grosgrain loops along the sides to use a possible Arc-like straps tie-offs.

I plan to use it with my new tarp on my ME trip planned for next week. I'll report back after the trip.

Since you are a hammock user (so am I, but I'm trying a tarp on this trip for weight savings), you can easily get away with the original design. Maybe add a hem across the top like Risk's so you can pull the neck hole tight. Might even be able to make it a bit more narrow since it is very easy to do the "roll-n-tuck" thing in a hammock.