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Sidewinder
06-06-2009, 12:02
Has anyone considered using penguin down as insulation for quilts and bags? Not sure where you would get it or if it's available for consumer use. But, seems to me it would be perfect for backpackers who hike in wet environments and want the light weight and warmth of down and maybe not having to worrying as much about it getting wet. Yeah, I know use a good dry bag and your bag won't get wet.
http://www.extra.rdg.ac.uk/eng/BIONIS/pdf%20files/Penguin%20Down%20Feathers.pdf
warraghiyagey
06-06-2009, 12:10
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Angry_Penguin.svg/424px-Angry_Penguin.svg.png
World-Wide
06-06-2009, 12:10
I know they make penguin down bags for cats, but I believe they're working on a cost effective larger bag for humans? http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/keipop/emu_penguin02-1.jpg
Where can penguins be easily hunted?
Phoenixdadeadhead
06-06-2009, 12:19
Where can penguins be easily hunted?
Not on their home planet!! They have bigger guns!!!
Desert Reprobate
06-06-2009, 12:49
Besides who wants to pluck a penguin?
Besides who wants to pluck a penguin?
http://www.netjeff.com/humor/item.cgi?file=7dwarf.nun
caution: use of f bomb
Sidewinder
06-06-2009, 14:28
http://www.netjeff.com/humor/item.cgi?file=7dwarf.nun
caution: use of f bomb
This is not the direction I had hoped this thread would take, but that was funny.;):D
YoungMoose
06-06-2009, 14:54
I never heard of this idea but i dont think that it would be that warm. In the artic when its extremely cold they Mostly stay warm by huddling in groups of hundreds. Thats the reason why i dont think its that warm.
Desert Reprobate
06-06-2009, 14:55
That is the only direction we know
Sidewinder
06-06-2009, 15:13
I never heard of this idea but i dont think that it would be that warm. In the artic when its extremely cold they Mostly stay warm by huddling in groups of hundreds. Thats the reason why i dont think its that warm.
here's more info with how penguins keep warm
http://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica%20fact%20file/science/cold_penguins.htm
Snowleopard
06-06-2009, 15:30
Nice link sidewinder. So I guess the ultimate insulation is to hike in groups of thousands and huddle up on cold nights.
Sidewinder
06-06-2009, 15:48
Nice link sidewinder. So I guess the ultimate insulation is to hike in groups of thousands and huddle up on cold nights.
HAH...and add a thick layer of blubber.
I started thinking about penguin down this morning when I removed my down bag from the dryer and found a dark gray/black feather sticking out. I worked it back in and realized I had only seen white down feathers in the past. I laughed and said it must have been a penguin.
I've been toying with the idea of making a summer down quilt and decided to throw out the idea and see if anyone here had thought of using penguin down.
joehiker22
06-06-2009, 15:52
Wow, I have never heard of penguin down before..sounds intriguing.
bigcranky
06-06-2009, 17:12
Most commercial goose down is a side product of goose production for food. To get large quantities of penguin down, you'd have to create a market for penguin burgers, grilled penguin, beer-can penguin, penguin flambe, penguin pate, and penguin a la king.
Good luck with that....:rolleyes:
Sidewinder
06-06-2009, 17:24
Most commercial goose down is a side product of goose production for food. To get large quantities of penguin down, you'd have to create a market for penguin burgers, grilled penguin, beer-can penguin, penguin flambe, penguin pate, and penguin a la king.
Good luck with that....:rolleyes:
There seems to be a market already...:D
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qGWz7Rpqevc/SOqn4Vx4ETI/AAAAAAAAAaU/zzmw6AHpLP4/s400/bento+101.jpg
Penguin Dinner Game (http://www.funny-games.biz/penguin-dinner.html)
bigcranky
06-06-2009, 18:07
http://www.flashgames1.com/games/sport/penguin-shooting-game.php
I love this game.
I never heard of this idea but i dont think that it would be that warm. In the artic when its extremely cold they Mostly stay warm by huddling in groups of hundreds.You mean like the Hawk Mtn Shelter?
warraghiyagey
06-06-2009, 18:32
Most commercial goose down is a side product of goose production for food. To get large quantities of penguin down, you'd have to create a market for penguin burgers, grilled penguin, beer-can penguin, penguin flambe, penguin pate, and penguin a la king.
Good luck with that....:rolleyes:
There seems to be a market already...:D
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qGWz7Rpqevc/SOqn4Vx4ETI/AAAAAAAAAaU/zzmw6AHpLP4/s400/bento+101.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xtXZge7xJeI/RwvXK6wT1eI/AAAAAAAAAAk/Thc_npY8u6Y/s320/penguin-kill.jpg
have none of you ever seen the Penguin's of madagascar show on tV? they are evil ninja like creatures.....
on a more serious note I don't think you can buy penguin down... but hey if you have a source for it i'll try it out.
Since nobody's actually answered seriously, I'll go right on ahead:
Down on any animal, is not waterproof. It's the feathers that provide the waterproof cover for the down. In the case of Penguins, a layer of air is created between the water and the down which is insulative.
That's why oil spills are such a big deal. The oil screws with the feathers and then the down gets wet, resulting in fungal infections and loss of insulation.
Rocketman
09-27-2009, 10:26
Since nobody's actually answered seriously, I'll go right on ahead:
Down on any animal, is not waterproof. It's the feathers that provide the waterproof cover for the down. In the case of Penguins, a layer of air is created between the water and the down which is insulative.
That's why oil spills are such a big deal. The oil screws with the feathers and then the down gets wet, resulting in fungal infections and loss of insulation.
Nothing like facts to screw up a string of nonsensical play.
If there were such a thing as "waterproof down", I wonder what would be the underlying physics, chemistry and mechanics to allow such high volumetric compression/expansion, low weight and waterproofness all in one.
The feather solution splits out the waterproofness from the above mix of properties.
Tipi Walter
09-27-2009, 14:22
I read your title and thought another helicopter got shot down in Somalia.
warraghiyagey
09-27-2009, 14:45
I read your title and thought another helicopter got shot down in Somalia.
You're thinking of Watership Down. . .
Gray Blazer
09-27-2009, 22:48
Nice link sidewinder. So I guess the ultimate insulation is to hike in groups of thousands and huddle up on cold nights.
Especially with the Swedish Bikini Backpacking Team.
here's more info with how penguins keep warm
http://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica%20fact%20file/science/cold_penguins.htm
Good Article. I now know how penguins stay warm, kinda thought blubber did it more than feathers after reading OP, and I learned the meaning of subcutaneous...THANKS!!:banana
You're thinking of Watership Down. . .
Holy crap what a frightening movie.
http://blogs.dasmirnov.net/media/attack.jpg
warraghiyagey
09-29-2009, 20:38
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warraghiyagey
09-29-2009, 20:39
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warraghiyagey
09-29-2009, 20:40
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warraghiyagey
09-29-2009, 20:44
http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/660/517/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/111/95/00337467.JPG
warraghiyagey
09-29-2009, 20:47
http://jessypeters.com/bunny.jpg
Wise Old Owl
09-29-2009, 21:54
Wow someone deleted my benign penquin Pic.
Ok here is your requested answer.....................................
http://www.extra.rdg.ac.uk/eng/BIONIS/pdf%20files/Penguin%20Down%20Feathers.pdf
Bet you didn't know they stink of fish oils
mkmangold
09-29-2009, 23:22
Bet you didn't know they stink of fish oils
Yah: ever smell the penguin exhibit at the zoo?
How do you get down off an elephant?
You can't: you get down off a penguin.
I'd love to pluck the little suckers. I heard their meat tastes just like chicken cooked in fish oil.
Wise Old Owl
10-01-2009, 09:46
Penguins
Did you ever wonder why there are no dead penguins on the ice in Antarctica - where do they go?
Wonder no more!!!
It is a known fact that the penguin is a very ritualistic bird which lives an extremely ordered and complex life.
The penguin is very committed to its family and will mate for life, as well as maintaining a form of compassionate contact with its offspring throughout its life.
If a penguin is found dead on the ice surface, other members of the family and social circle have been known to dig holes in the ice, using their vestigial wings and beaks, until the hole is deep enough for the dead bird to be rolled into and buried.
The male penguins then gather in a circle around the fresh grave and sing: comcast.net
"Freeze a jolly good fellow",
Then they kick him in the ice hole.
You really didn't believe that I know anything about penguins, did you?
warraghiyagey
10-01-2009, 09:51
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/10/27/dd-breathed27_op_0499349313.jpg
I've heard that penguin down is horrible. But seriously, the best kind of down for sleeping bags is the down from bald eagles and red-tailed hawks! You should try it some time!
ShelterLeopard
10-01-2009, 11:28
I read the title of the thread and thought a penguin had been shot. Penguin down!!! Code Red!!!
ShelterLeopard
10-01-2009, 11:29
Hee hee http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.angry-penguin.co.uk/ap.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.angry-penguin.co.uk/&usg=__17s1Tmh-qwnr3LgULSwp8dEQ3zY=&h=300&w=300&sz=4&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=oGzjigwxXpkQTM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dangry%2Bpenguin%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26 um%3D1&um=1
warraghiyagey
10-01-2009, 18:05
http://www.angry-penguin.co.uk/ap.gif
Snowleopard, Nice link sidewinder. So I guess the ultimate insulation is to hike in groups of thousands and huddle up on cold nights.Now, that is ultralightweight backpacking.
Me? I came into this part of the forum looking for someone to sew up the materials and design I like for a sleeping quilt.
Penguin stuffed, not!
ShelterLeopard
12-17-2009, 12:11
http://www.zonelevelup.com/users/legendpk3r/images/penguin_army_bear_cavalry.jpg
The Weasel
12-17-2009, 12:20
Norwegian blue penguins?
TW
ShelterLeopard
12-17-2009, 12:26
I cain't say that I know ma one penguin frem anether...
Just that they are deadly fighters... Don't be fooled by the cute and fuzzy exterior...
http://dorkdungeon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cute-baby-penguins.jpg
The Weasel
12-17-2009, 12:46
I cain't say that I know ma one penguin frem anether...
It's easy if you know how.
TW
ShelterLeopard
12-17-2009, 12:52
I'm working on North American birds now, hopefully I'll get around to penguins soon.