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Alaskanhkr23
06-10-2009, 15:42
My staement/Question is I would like to start going very light,with out breaking the bank on things like a 250 dollar tent for exp... So what are some idea's for basic equipment that wont break the banks, I have two msr stoves,to start. I want my food to be the heaviest thing i carry.
Start with Sgt. Rocks article here on WB.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?p=206678#post206678
To get the lightest gear, you will need to spend some money. The big four weight wise are pack, sleeping bag, shelter, shoes/boots. Find out which of these are the heaviest for you (I'd bet it will be either your bag or your shelter) and start to find an alternative for it. Learn to use a tarp, and you'll save a whole bunch - it's not hard to learn, just gotta practice some.
This will become somewhat of an obsession, so watch yourself! :D
As always, HAVE FUN!!!
mister krabs
06-10-2009, 16:06
My staement/Question is I would like to start going very light,with out breaking the bank on things like a 250 dollar tent for exp... So what are some idea's for basic equipment that wont break the banks, I have two msr stoves,to start. I want my food to be the heaviest thing i carry.
Two MSR stoves to start. Alcohol is generally lighter for less than a week, wood can be even lighter than that. I prefer the starlyte stove.
Frameless packs are pretty cheap, golite's 40% off sale goes till friday.
A tarp is cheaper and lighter than a tent.
short sleeping pads are lighter and cheaper than full length pads.
Those are the big changes that I have made.
[QUOTE=Lyle;851908]Start with Sgt. Rocks article here on WB.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?p=206678#post206678
To get the lightest gear, you will need to spend some money.../QUOTE]
BS DIY. I made good quality, cheap, lite backpack, quilt, and tarp from Ray Jardines website.
Sorry, I did not mean sgt rocks article was be. I meant the statement that you gotta spend money to go lite weight was bs.
bigcranky
06-10-2009, 17:21
There are two ways to "go ultralight." One is to spend a ton of money on high-tech uber-light gear. The other is to simplify what you take. An ultralight pack weighs the same no matter what route you choose. In either case, though, you will need to trade skills and experience for weight -- that is, going lighter requires more of both.
Since you asked about Door #2, let's look at some options:
1. Shelter: Campmor Silnylon 8x10 tarp, $65. An 8x10 silnylon tarp (http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___20069) weighs about a pound with stakes and guy lines. It's the simplest and cheapest way to reduce shelter weight. You'll need careful site selection and the skill to pitch it properly.
1a. Shelter, part 2: The Golite Poncho Tarp, 10 oz., $50. This is a shelter, rain gear, and pack cover all in 10 ounces. Add two ounces for stakes and guy lines, and you've saved a lot of weight. This requires some serious experience and skill in bad weather, IMO.
2. Pad: Ridgerest 3/4 foam pad. About $30, 10 oz. Light, easy to use, won't break.
3. Sleeping bag: Here's where you can spend some money. A good high-fill-power down bag is costly, but will last forever and keep you alive when the weather goes bad. The best option is to keep your eyes on the discounters and grab something on sale. A 20-F or 30-F bag under two pounds is the goal. It will cost from $150-300 on sale.
4. Pack. A true ultralight load only requires a frameless rucksack for a pack. The Fanatic Fringe packs (http://www.fanaticfringe.com/page5.html) are light and very reasonably priced.
5. Cooking: a homemade Pepsi can stove is essentially free. You can dirtbag an aluminum pot at the local Goodwill, or buy the K-Mart Grease Pot for about $5. Some heavy-duty aluminum foil for a wind screen, and you have a kitchen. Add some Gatorade or Aqua Fina bottles for water (cheap at the grocery store, free out of the recycling bin.)
That puts the weight of your main gear at about 5 pounds, and the total cost at well under $200 except for the sleeping bag. Add five pounds of clothing and personal gear, and you are at 10 pounds base weight, the conventional cutoff for "ultralight." Most people already have suitable clothing for hiking, or you can buy a lot of good-quality, inexpensive synthetic "athletic" clothing at Target.
That means if your budget is $500 you can splurge on that $300 sleeping bag.
Again, all of this assumes you have the skills and experience to handle bad weather and other situations with minimal gear and clothing. YMMV, and YCGKDT (you can get killed doing this.)
Happy trails.
Pokey2006
06-10-2009, 17:31
That's bull that you have to spend money to go ultra-light. Some of my cheapest gear is stuff I got to go lighter.
For a tarp, get a piece Tyvek.
For a sleeping pad, get a blue foam pad from Walmart.
For a stove, get a beer can stove AND a beer can pot. Eat dehydrated food or food that doesn't require cooking.
Learn how to carry less water. That one's free.
Some excellent tips above.
For a great, quick and dirty guide to going lightweight, I'd suggest buying this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Lighten-Up-Complete-Ultralight-Backpacking/dp/0762737344/ref=pd_sim_b_3
Most lightweight books and advice are often about going lightweight with specific gear.
This book is not only offers some tips, but also offers a non-gear perspective on how to lighten your load. The advice will not be out-of-date in five years.
Great for a traditional backpacker who wants to lighten up.
(On a side note, Ray Jardine released the newest incarnation of his lightweight book: Trail Life (http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Life-Jardines-Lightweight-Backpacking/dp/0963235974/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244670916&sr=8-1). I have not read it myself (nor do I unless it comes to my local library or someone loans me a copy)
[quote=Lyle;851908]Start with Sgt. Rocks article here on WB.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?p=206678#post206678
To get the lightest gear, you will need to spend some money.../QUOTE]
BS DIY. I made good quality, cheap, lite backpack, quilt, and tarp from Ray Jardines website.
From Jardines site:
Basic Quilt Kit : $74.95
Stuff Sack for Quilt : 12.95
Tarp Kit : $70.90 (if you want the instructions)
Tarp Kit : $55.95 (without instructions)
Backpack Kit : $54.95
Backpack Pocket Kit : $14.95
Backpack Instruction Video : $24.95 (per the site - "Highly Recommended")
Add this up (with instructions) and for the "Cheap" big three, for one person, comes to $253.65 plus all of your time. If you ask me, this is "some money".
Who's BSing here?
My point is that you can outfit cheaply, but you won't outfit yourself "Ultralite" without spending some bucks. The materials alone are kinda pricey. That said, no reason you need to start out ultralite. The important thing is to start and refine as your knowledge and experience increase.
Snowleopard
06-10-2009, 19:43
Jardine's stuff isn't all that cheap.
Backpackinglight.com ($ to read) has an interesting article on making a tarp, backpack and stuff sack from 5 yards of material. He uses spinntex which is expensive and light and total for the 3 is 9.6 oz. The materials would probably be about $20 + cost of fabric.
The spinntex is about $90, silnylon would be about $35 ($55 total) and total about 13-14 oz. Materials for a quilt would be about $36 for 1.1 oz ripstop and climashield from
http://thru-hiker.com/materials/insulation.php
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/make_your_own_gear_5_yards_to_sul_part_1.html
Without sewing my candidates would be:
Campmor 8x9.5 tarp $19.95. Probably about 18 oz. Or blue poly tarp from hardware $4.
Lafuma 20 oz sleeping bag. $36 on sale now at REIl summer only. Augment with a piece of cheap fleece and long johns if you're expecting it to be little cold.
Backpack, search around for a cheapo big daypack that's not heavy. Or search for the zpacks pack for sale on WB (maybe too small??). Or http://www.fanaticfringe.com/page5.html $69-$79.
Walmart blue foam pad ($6??)
Sheet of plastic for ground cover.
headnet or piece of bug netting draped over you for bugs.
As others have said, alcohol stove, free MYOG or $10 to buy.
Homer&Marje
06-10-2009, 19:55
Pepsi can stove. 12x4' piece of tyvek. 10x12' tarp. 150' paracord trimmed to 2 x 40'..... 4 x 20'.....4 x 10'. Emergency bivy sack, $34 at EMS or Bass Pro. And buy that silly small 24 oz pack that someone is selling with no pockets.
You'll be about 5lbs before food, clothing, and sleeping bag.
Homer&Marje
06-10-2009, 19:56
Pepsi can stove. 12x4' piece of tyvek. 10x12' tarp. 150' paracord trimmed to 2 x 40'..... 4 x 20'.....4 x 10'. 6 tent stakes and a bottle of HEET. Emergency bivy sack, $34 at EMS or Bass Pro. And buy that silly small 24 oz pack that someone is selling with no pockets.
You'll be about 5lbs before food, clothing, and sleeping bag.
Post Last edited. Now. Reason. Forgot something:D
garlic08
06-10-2009, 19:58
[quote=jesse;851968]...Add this up (with instructions) and for the "Cheap" big three, for one person, comes to $253.65 plus all of your time. If you ask me, this is "some money".
But the MSR Hubba, a very popular two-wall tent on the AT last year, cost $350 MSRP, all by itself. None of this stuff is listed as cheap.
I gotta go with the "UL is cheaper" school here. My Tarptent Contrail was $200. I was lucky and got a very nice down bag (Marmot Helium) on Steep'n'Cheap for $160. My pack was $80. My pad was $30.
Another huge cost savings I realized by going UL on the AT was much less time in towns. I only took three zero days, and those were mainly to visit friends and family along the way. I felt so good with the light pack, I never felt the need to stop for very long. The whole hike came in about $1,000 under my budget--real money, to me. Never got hurt, never got sick--more savings.
Alaskanhkr23
06-10-2009, 22:05
I think im going to go with a Tarp,now can i just buy a tarp and string or is this another package deal from a site?
Lots of tarps to be had. Just do a search for "tarps" here and/or on your favorite search engine of choice.
My $300 challenge entry!
http://www.magnanti.com/miscwritings/3hundred_challenge.htm
And other inputs:
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-5594.html
About 15 lbs BPW.. I would splurge on a better sleeping bag and perhaps another shelter (like the Campmor Silnylon Tarp. I used it quite nicely on the PCT) . Other than that? I'd honestly be OK using this gear.
Hell..a LOT of this is from current kit. :)
http://www.pmags.com/joomla/index.php/Backpacking-and-Hiking-documents/Mags-Gear-List.html
You CAN go light and cheap...you just gotta look and be persistent.
UL is can be very cheap. Don't buy anything expensive. Don't collect stuff when you already stuff unless what you have is really heavy and unsuitable. Its mostly about keeping it simple. Very easy in summer. Need a few more layers into Spring and Fall.
Pack: $100 for something 20oz 3200ci or DIY for cheaper, and lighter.
Shelter: Poncho Tarp, Blue Foam Pad, DIY bivy maybe to keep rain off and wind layer.
Sleeping Bag: Here you might spend some money for Fall/Winter/Spring, but summer can be very cheap, and easy to DIY a synthetic quilt or something like that for down to 40F.
Clothing: You only need one set, and nothing needs to be more than $20, and it can be stuff you also wear everyday, like thrift loose merino wool sweaters, and wool socks for $2/pair. Keep shopping around, but don't be a collector.
Stove: DIY hobo or alcohol stove or both.
Trail Runners or Running Shoes: wait for sales. buy something that is suitably light and flexible as most are overbuilt for hiking and running. 12oz/shoe is plenty for size 12. Don't buy anything that doesn't fit. $40 is good. $80 is ok if its the perfect shoe for you. Look for a fit that works with both thin and thick socks, and without padding that absorbs too much water, and a sole that will wear well and grip well but isn't overdone. Find a way to lace it so that nothing digs into your foot anywhere. Sometimes removing the insole helps for thicker socks. Sometimes a felt insole helps for warmth. If you run alot on roads, you might use new running shoes for the roads, and then use them on the trail once they get too beaten for roads. Trail runners need to be a bit tougher, but they don't need as much cushion. Road runners are often tough enough.
bigcranky
06-11-2009, 07:42
I think im going to go with a Tarp,now can i just buy a tarp and string or is this another package deal from a site?
Can you sew? Making your own is satisfying and can be less expensive.
If you want to try it out before spending a lot of money, buy one of those blue plastic tarps from wallymart for <$10. 8x10 feet or so would be perfect. Get some parachute cord and go practice setting it up in the rain. :)
Beyond that, there are dozens of manufacturers who will be happy to sell you a tarp. Many of them were mentioned in the responses to your initial question. Some of them had links, even, so you wouldn't have to trouble yourself with The Google.
I'm not sure you would be happy with a blue tarp. If you just want to test the idea before springing $30 or $40 for a small poncho tarp on sale, you can get one of those cheap plastic ponchos for $1 or $2. You could also buy some cheap sylnylon from Walmart for $1/yd and just cut it and melt the seams, don't even bother to sew it until you know you like it. You can add a hood or neck opening later, or go with a bigger tarp that isn't a poncho. I don't find blue tarps get much use in the long run. Too heavy and crinkly and they don't last. A cheap sylnylon experiment can always get reused for overmitts or oversocks or even a bivy or pack experiment.
Basic Nylon Poncho Tarps: $25
http://www.rainponchos.com/RainPoncho_camo.htm
Children Sizes available: $21
http://www.rainponchos.com/RainPoncho_Nylon.htm
Very cheap: $1
http://www.rainponchos.com/RainPoncho_Emergency.htm
My staement/Question is I would like to start going very light,with out breaking the bank on things like a 250 dollar tent for exp... So what are some idea's for basic equipment that wont break the banks, I have two msr stoves,to start. I want my food to be the heaviest thing i carry.
well to lighten up you might want to first start hiking w/ just one stove....
cwayman1
06-11-2009, 20:25
fanTAStic tarps...
http://outdoorequipmentsupplier.com/
and check out the kitten stove here... just search kitten :D
BOWSINGER
06-13-2009, 15:53
There are a lot of good threads with tons of lightweight ideas on this site. Besides SGT ROCK’S Dirt Bag article, I just threw my two cents worth on SGT ROCK’S $300 CHALLENGE, which is one of the most comprehensive.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/show...4300+challenge (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5594&highlight=%24300+challenge)
i found a nifty little shortcut for quick setup of a tarp
i live in PA where there are tons of trees
and i use a simple single layer 8x10 tarp from a farm supply store
in order to make it setup faster, i attached several feet of cord to each corner, and then put a nite-ize figure 9 on each cord, so all i have to do is unroll it, and wrap each corner around a tree, then stick a branch or trekking pole under each end to make a V shape, viola` my tarp is setup!
takes all of 30 seconds, and cost me a total of 30$, yes it weighs almost 20oz though, but i make up for it by going simple on everything else, so i still stay UL
Stud The Dud
06-14-2009, 16:40
Disclaimer: Much of what I'm about to say has prob. already been said, but I am too lazy to read all the posts.
Lighter is often cheaper. Below are things that worked for me. Do your research before buying though.
Granite Gear Vapor Trail Pack ($119) cheaper than osprey
Therm-A-Rest Z-Lite ($30)
Starlyte Alcohol Stove ($15)
One set of clothes
Trail Runners ($100)
Hammock/Tarptent ($180-200) most good tents will cost over $150 anyway
Aqua Mira ($15) cheaper than filter
2-3 pairs of socks. No need to bring 100's like some people
Down Bag ($150) recommend a sea-to-summit compression dry bag to go with it
No nalgenes, just use gatorade. they are cheaper and lighter.
Johnny Swank
06-14-2009, 21:36
I've gone through the following progression:
1) used cheap, heavy gear
2) bought heavy, expensive gear
3) Bought cheap, lighter gear
4) Made/sewed REALLY cheap, REALLY light gear.
I wish I could have skipped at least 2 of the first 3 steps, but I'm pretty happy with what I have now. I'm probably going to spring for the stupid-expensive superlight down bag to replace the moderately-priced/OK down bag I bought over 10 years ago. That thing's got something like 4,000 miles on it now and refuses to die!
Downhill Trucker
06-15-2009, 05:46
Hell..a LOT of this is from current kit. :)
http://www.pmags.com/joomla/index.php/Backpacking-and-Hiking-documents/Mags-Gear-List.html
You CAN go light and cheap...you just gotta look and be persistent.Dude, I always love your insight. Awesome. I was checking through your gear list and I have a few questions as it is similar to my current gear list... (except all my hammocking crap which I'm not giving up soon)
Stoveless cooking? Best place to find info? What's a typical 5 day menu look like in particular?
Do you like polypro over wool layers for weight or another reason? I'm in love with all of my merino wool layers even though they are pricey. (I found em cheap!)
How ya like the pack? (Dunno if I'm sold on my GG Virga just yet)
Thanks Mags! You rock! :clap
Stoveless cooking? Best place to find info? What's a typical 5 day menu look like in particular?
Do you like polypro over wool layers for weight or another reason?
I've always done cold breakfasts and lunches, but the no-cook dinners are fairly new to me.
Garlic (here on WB) is the one who really showed me the utility of the no-cook dinners on a stretch of the AZT we did back in April. He has some good input with that.
The tipping point, for me, is my upcoming hike on Canada's Great Divide Trail. A white gas stove is heavy. Canisters are a pain to get. The gasoline already has the equivalent of HEET (alcohol) in it so fuel is hard to get for alcohol stoves. Why not just go stoveless? Eeasier that way.
FWIW, I eat like crap on the trails. :D I've done oatmeal cookies pies, fig bars or similar for breakfast. Summer sausage, bagles, Snickers, trail mix, etc. throughout the day. For dinners, I find that many of my cooked options (mashed potatoes, stove top stuffing, cous cous) rehydrate w/o cooking quite well. So, essentially I am eating the same food...just cold. I'll throw in some kind of protein (tuna, dried salami, etc)
This pie chart says it all. ;)
It is from my Colorado Trail thru-hike. I kept track of the food I ate in 21 days..because people always ask "What do you eat on long hikes?" :D
http://www.magnanti.com/ct_calories_pie_chart.jpg
(And just as an FYI, I eat pretty healthy off trail. My breakfast this morning? Cup oatmeal, 1 oz protein powder, banana and a cup of non-fat yogurt. :) )
Oh yes...why synthetic vs wool? Here's what I wrote in yet another doc (Intro to snowshoeing...it is more like an intro to winter, however)
http://www.pmags.com/joomla/index.php/Outdoor-Writings/intro-to-snowshoeing.html
It honestly comes down to what you like. :)
SIDE NOTE: Wool vs Fleece (or Wool vs Synthetics)
There has been a bit of resurgence in the use of wool for backcountry use (esp in base layers). So what to use? It honestly does not matter for most people; it comes down to personal preference. As long as you do not use cotton, you should be fine. Many people use a combo of wool and synthetics (esp in winter). If you are curious of the pros and cons of each, here is my personal take:
Wool
Warm when damp
Can be inexpensive (thrift stores, surplus) or expensive (Smartwool, Ibex, etc)
Tends to breathe better than synthetics
More durable
Less odor
Takes longer to dry when wet (and becomes heavier)
Usually bulkier and heavier than comparable synthetics or fleece
Synthetics or Fleece
Dries quicker (but is not warm when damp)
For base layers, good ole' polypro can be ridiculously cheap
Usually less heavy and bulky than the wool equivalent
Can get a pungent odor
So what do I use?
For winter use, when I am more concerned about warmth than weight (and I am wearing most of my layers), I tend to favor wool base layers (except for the liner socks) as it is more forgiving of sweating I find. A wool hat tends to be warmer if it gets damp in snow vs a fleece hat as well. A surplus wool sweater is now my warm layer of choice, too. In the cold, dry conditions of Colorado, I find wool works very well overall.
In three season backpacking, when weight and bulk is a chief a concern (and most of my layers are stowed), I tend to wear synthetics. Any moisture in spring through fall tends to be rain (or very wet snow), so the quick drying properties of synthetics comes in handy.
Overall, you may find one combo works better than another based on your budget, availability of what you may already have or just personal preference.
Alaskanhkr23
06-15-2009, 13:35
thanks for the info i guess
Homer&Marje
06-15-2009, 19:34
I've always done cold breakfasts and lunches, but the no-cook dinners are fairly new to me.
Garlic (here on WB) is the one who really showed me the utility of the no-cook dinners on a stretch of the AZT we did back in April. He has some good input with that.
The tipping point, for me, is my upcoming hike on Canada's Great Divide Trail. A white gas stove is heavy. Canisters are a pain to get. The gasoline already has the equivalent of HEET (alcohol) in it so fuel is hard to get for alcohol stoves. Why not just go stoveless? Eeasier that way.
FWIW, I eat like crap on the trails. :D I've done oatmeal cookies pies, fig bars or similar for breakfast. Summer sausage, bagles, Snickers, trail mix, etc. throughout the day. For dinners, I find that many of my cooked options (mashed potatoes, stove top stuffing, cous cous) rehydrate w/o cooking quite well. So, essentially I am eating the same food...just cold. I'll throw in some kind of protein (tuna, dried salami, etc)
This pie chart says it all. ;)
It is from my Colorado Trail thru-hike. I kept track of the food I ate in 21 days..because people always ask "What do you eat on long hikes?" :D
http://www.magnanti.com/ct_calories_pie_chart.jpg
(And just as an FYI, I eat pretty healthy off trail. My breakfast this morning? Cup oatmeal, 1 oz protein powder, banana and a cup of non-fat yogurt. :) )
Mags. You are the coolest person in the world for sure. Hiker trash and useless time consumer extraordinaire with out a doubt. Well done sir. Well done.:clap:clap
Mags. You are the coolest person in the world for sure. Hiker trash and useless time consumer extraordinaire with out a doubt. Well done sir. Well done.:clap:clap
I know..in 2004, I should have spent that time investing the time in the stock market..more productive. Wait..oh..er never mind.
cwayman1
06-24-2009, 22:47
you know, some of the gear that you might be looking for could be found pre-owned. some ppl, jumping into "ultra-light" way too fast, have bought all this stuff and don't think they like it. check craigslist, ebay, etc. Also, some can be made. DIY is always satisfying. and always ALWAYS look for sales :)!
Uncle Tom
06-25-2009, 08:06
I contest all this talk about tarps as cheap replacements for tents.
I would strongly suggest that one actually try using a tarp in the eastern US hiking environment before you shell out to buy one. I tried it again on a night on a recent canoe camping trip here in Maine in May. I really wanted it to work, but lasted about 15 minutes after dealing with all sorts of unexpected hassles before I retreated to a tent.
I thru-hiked in 2007 and my wife did about half the Trail in 2008. We were just talking about tarps, and realized that neither one of us even saw one actual AT thru-hiker who was using a tarp. Must be the same reason why a number of folks, like me, who had started with light thin pads switched to the heavier, much more comfortable Big Agnes air pads from the Mid Atlantic states north.
HIke your own hike, but an untested foray into a more than $100 tarp may be a waste of money in the real outdoor world .
cwayman1
06-25-2009, 23:48
well, I actually use my tarp in conjunction with my hammock :
... any night off the ground is a good night for me :)!
but I can see where you are coming from
[quote=jesse;851968]
From Jardines site:
Basic Quilt Kit : $74.95
Stuff Sack for Quilt : 12.95
Tarp Kit : $70.90 (if you want the instructions)
Tarp Kit : $55.95 (without instructions)
Backpack Kit : $54.95
Backpack Pocket Kit : $14.95
Backpack Instruction Video : $24.95 (per the site - "Highly Recommended")
Add this up (with instructions) and for the "Cheap" big three, for one person, comes to $253.65 plus all of your time. If you ask me, this is "some money".
Who's BSing here?
My point is that you can outfit cheaply, but you won't outfit yourself "Ultralite" without spending some bucks. The materials alone are kinda pricey. That said, no reason you need to start out ultralite. The important thing is to start and refine as your knowledge and experience increase.
what do you use for your big 3. and how much did it cost? Did you spend a lot less than $250?
Like cwayman, I use a tarp with my hammock. If I were to use the tarp alone as a shelter, I suppose no one would see me either as I would be choosing a location well away from established campsites. Perhaps that is another reason why they aren't seen very much?
Downhill Trucker
06-27-2009, 04:55
Using the tarp is a skill, and not an easy one. Biggest drawback, no matter how skillful you are, is bugs. Anyone starting in tarping should get a cheapy or diy and then learn the skills and decide if its right for them. The added ventilation and less condensation is a huge plus. Also the added shelter space for gear and cooking is great.
If you hammock, a tarp is your best friend. Wind and rain protection are obvious. But within that system you are dry underneath, have great bug protection, a place to sit and cook dryly, an awning, the list goes on... My last trip with hammock and tarp it poured five days straight. It was the dryest I have ever been while camping. The system was the best thing I could have had.
I was super comfortable as well!
This pie chart says it all.
It is from my Colorado Trail thru-hike. I kept track of the food I ate in 21 days..because people always ask "What do you eat on long hikes?" :D
http://www.magnanti.com/ct_calories_pie_chart.jpg
(And just as an FYI, I eat pretty healthy off trail. My breakfast this morning? Cup oatmeal, 1 oz protein powder, banana and a cup of non-fat yogurt. :) )
Could you please repost or link to the pie chart? I can't see it.