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Rain Man
06-13-2009, 09:55
I am posting this in Straight Forward to AVOID any discussion/debate of hunting issues and guns. Thank you in advance for NOT "going there" and that includes "taking the first shot" and then whining if someone shoots back. Just don't take that first shot. If you feel so compelled, post your own thread somewhere else. Thanks.

Anyway, as bear and human populations both increase, encounters are increasing too. On my week-long section hike of the Shenandoah National Park, my daughter and I saw bears each and every day. We got photos of fuzzy bear butts, because they were running away from us every time.

Associated Press in Harlan, KY, on bear population (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090613/ap_on_re_us/us_bear_encounters)

Excerpts from above news report:
"With black bear populations rising, run-ins have become almost commonplace — more than 15,000 in the past year in states east of the Mississippi River according to a survey of state wildlife agencies."

"The U.S. bear population more than doubled between 1989 and 2006, rising from 165,000 to over 350,000, according to The International Association of Bear Research and Management, a bear conservation nonprofit that takes a periodic census of the animals."

"More than a century ago, bears thrived in Kentucky, but over-hunting and habitat loss led to their disappearance. As the large animals have ventured back from neighboring states, Kentucky residents nowadays find themselves unaccustomed to living among bears."

"Mark Ternent, a state bear biologist in Pennsylvania ... said most of the encounters are harmless, ending with the bears running away.

"The average bear is afraid of people," he said. "If it encounters a person, it would rather flee than fight."

"Koger, a construction worker, said he has run across lots of bears over the years in the mountains of eastern Kentucky. Most of the time, he said, the bears don't relish the encounters either.

"Usually they want to get away from you as much you want to get away from them," he said."

Much more at the above link.

Rain:sunMan

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puddingboy
06-13-2009, 10:45
I just read an article about a bear coming south into iowa from minnesota, so they must be expanding their range.

http://www.gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090610/NEWS/906109969

Feral Bill
06-13-2009, 10:50
When I was young bears were never seen in Harriman SP, and only very rarely in New Jersey. So yes, they are moving back into historic range.

jcazz
06-13-2009, 10:52
http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showpost.php?p=742145&postcount=23

Snowleopard
06-13-2009, 11:04
Bear problem at Sages Ravine, AT at CT/MA border:

bco94: I own the outfitter in Kent. Had a section hiker in during the week that was actually chased by a bear out of Sages. Be careful with food! http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=51092&page=2&highlight=connecticut There were either no bears or very very few in CT or MA in the 1960s. Now they appear in places like Worcester, MA.

Bears in the Hudson Valley. Do watch the video.
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090609/NEWS/90514019

Ladytrekker
06-13-2009, 12:09
I play on the Florida Trail, seen lots of bear scat I know they are there but have yet to see one while hiking. But I do know that there is no documented bear attacks in Florida.

MomNtheWoods
06-13-2009, 23:00
Indeed, today's local newspaper had a front page article (Greenville, SC) about several sitings in the last week...! It's happening and we all need to know how to respnd when WE have an encounter.

Blue Jay
06-14-2009, 10:56
I just read an article about a bear coming south into iowa from minnesota, so they must be expanding their range.

Much more problimatic is that humans are doing so also.

Homer&Marje
06-14-2009, 13:55
Bear problem at Sages Ravine, AT at CT/MA border:
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=51092&page=2&highlight=connecticut There were either no bears or very very few in CT or MA in the 1960s. Now they appear in places like Worcester, MA.

Bears in the Hudson Valley. Do watch the video.
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090609/NEWS/90514019

Just got back from Sages Ravine. Thanks for all the advice again. Kept my stuff in the bear box every night....didn't even see bear skat on any trails. Usually see a lot and no bears...just saw nothing this time for larger animals....except the back side of a white tail as it disappeared.

Mrs Baggins
06-14-2009, 14:30
We just spent 3 days in SNP (camping in Mathews Arm) and didn't see any bears. We were told of a "big black bear" that crossed a trail near Skyland and then a ranger said he was at a waterfall near the campground and saw 3 of them playing in the mist. Some cars were stopped on Skyline Drive near Big Meadows because they had spotted a mom and 2 cubs near the road, but they were gone by the time we looked. Another ranger told us he sees at least one every single day out on the road. He said they like to lick the salt off of the pavement.

take-a-knee
06-14-2009, 14:45
And the point of this thread is just what exactly? Two top-tier predators in conflict? Ohh but we must ignore and NEVER, NEVER discuss any potential conflict between the two, why that wouldn't be disneyfied (read WB mod approved).

Pennsylvania Rose
06-14-2009, 17:47
There was a front page article in our little local paper last week - Berea, KY officially has bears again. One ran out into the road near the Pinnacles (for those of you who know where that is). We've had them moving in and out, but not staying, in Madison Co. for years, but it looks like we may have a resident population now.

What I can't believe is that in my years of hiking, almost entirely on the southern AT and in the Smokies, the only bear I've seen was running down the side of the road in Yellowstone . We just got back from the Smokies where we saw plenty of scat, but no bear.

vamelungeon
06-14-2009, 18:06
I live in far southwestern Virginia, right up against the Kentucky border and yes, there are more bears here than there have been in my lifetime. In the past 4 or 5 decades, a bear sighting in this area was remarkable. Now, it seems, there are bears everywhere. Some of my neighbors had several beehives, one that was less than 100 yards from my house. The bears destroyed them. Bears have been seen in my driveway (not by me). So far they've left my garden alone. If I see them in my yard I plan on throwing fireworks or firing a gun (into the ground) and generally doing everything I can to make them afraid of people.