Making a Internal frame myself, to fit into a frameless pack.

[Mu-Chan]

Instead of shelling out the dough for a flashy internal frame, i would like to try making a internal frame and fit it with a frameless pack i got.

its a typical australian ruck.

anyone know of someone ever doing this, or have any advice that can be useful?

the reason i don't just go out and shell out the money for a regular internal frame pack is due to the general inherent flashiness that they are all known for. I want something low key, and cheap.

anyway, feel free to add

peace

[mister krabs]

I'm unfamiliar with a typical australian ruck. Does your ruck have a hipbelt? Not much point to a frame without one.

Here in the US we have plastic sign making material that is made like courregated cardboard. It is lightweight and stiff and can be made even more stiff with stays made out of wire hangers. Cut out to shape and slip it in the ruck before you pack it. Your gear will keep it in place if you have compression straps.

[Mu-Chan]

I too live in the US, but i am fond of the Aussie ruck's style. it does have a hip belt.

Where can said material be found?

i wouldn't mind giving it a shot.

Many Thanks

[Ranc0r]

If it's what I think it is, the Aussie Ruck is square canvas daypack. It's too heavy already. I'd fold my sleeping pad in first, and pack on top.

Something like this?

http://www.fatiguesarmynavy.com/store/item/AU1902/Austrian_Army_style_Patrol_Rucksack

http://www.amazon.com/Canvas-Australian-Style-Rucksack-Military/dp/B000AAZLL8


If not, can you share a link?

Ranc0r
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[mudhead]

You know those annoying political signs every November?

Comes in several thicknesses.

[Ranc0r]

Here's a more recent variation.

http://www.amazon.com/Canvas-Nato-Style-Rucksack-MEDIUM/dp/B000AB5HXO

Ranc0r
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[Tinker]

I use closed cell foam for a "frame" for my frameless pack (Golite Dawn). I cut the foam to the height of the pack and the circumferance. I then rolled the foam, stuffed it inside the pack and let it expand, becoming, essentially, a second pack layer (minus the top and bottom) within the fabric. I then inserted a large plastic bag for waterproofness and put my clothing and gear inside. It stiffens up the pack very well. I carried upwards of 34 lbs. to begin the Hundred Mile Wilderness in Maine with it. It wasn't the most comfortable for the first day, but by day three I almost forgot I had it on. It was down to approx. 26-28 lbs. by then due to food consumption. Many others do it this way also.

[Tinker]

Note to add to my first post: This method works best on a nearly perfect tubular shaped pack. It may be more challenging to make it work with a box shaped pack.

[skinewmexico]

I cut a piece of Coroplast to fit in my GoLite Pinnacle, and just put it in with the foam pad. Works pretty well.

[mister krabs]

I cut a piece of Coroplast to fit in my GoLite Pinnacle, and just put it in with the foam pad. Works pretty well.

That's the stuff, I didn't know the brand name.

[Snowleopard]

Bill Fornshell is a source of innovative ideas for MYOG including backpacks: http://ultraliteskunkworks.blogspot.com/2006/03/new-back-pack-myog-03022006.html

Coroplast can be gotten at sign companies in large sheets or sometimes you can get scraps for free.