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brownc
07-27-2009, 07:10
I have a bios 2.1 from MBD. I am looking to get another stove, but I was curious as to what other people were using. So post stove types and boil times please.

Thanks

bloodmountainman
07-27-2009, 07:12
Etowah Outfitters alchol burner.
Boils water in 5-7 minutes.

Homer&Marje
07-27-2009, 07:25
Miller Lite Can. 2 cups water 6-7 minutes for boil burns for 14-16 minutes 1 oz of Methyl (HEET)

Large pot I use 3 of them 3/4 oz of fuel each boils 6-8 cups of water in 10-12 minutes. (Cooking for 3)

Double boiler can be set up for dishwater too...if your careful:D

brownc
07-27-2009, 07:28
Etowah Outfitters alchol burner.
Boils water in 5-7 minutes.

Are you using http://www.etowahoutfittersultralightbackpackinggear.com/Alcoholstoves.html

The Etowah II Stove Kit??

Gaiter
07-27-2009, 07:30
super cat stove

russb
07-27-2009, 07:39
I go back and forth between the Starlyte and the Fancee Feest. I don't time them, but I would estimate both to boil at about 7 minutes. The starlyte uses slightly less fuel, 1/2oz for 2 cups.

CowHead
07-27-2009, 10:16
i have a jetboil and I just made a supercat stove that I'm going to test it overnight this weekend and see how alcohol works for lunch and dinner

Hoop Time
07-27-2009, 10:25
I am on my second Cobra stove (http://www.boblog.org/at/cobrastove.htm). Still need to tinker a little more with the size of the jets and a better windscreen the next one I make -- it burns too fast with the size they are now. But it was easy to make and boils water as quick as any of the commercial stoves I have seen in use. I used it with a Fosters can pot and was pretty happy with the whole set up.

toegem
07-27-2009, 10:27
For me that really depends, on what type of food I'll be eating on the trip, freeze dried, home dried cozied, fresh foods, soups, pasta, or fry breads, the time of year, where I'm traveling, lenght of trip. If I were to brake it down in percentage of use 45% canister, for simmering soups, pasta, rice, or for cooking on low temps, spring, summer or fall.
35% alcohol, boil water only meals.
25% liquid gas stoves, car camping, paddling, cooking all types of foods, in all seasons.

Nasty Dog Virus
07-27-2009, 10:46
I switch back and forth between a MSR Pocket Rocket & a Mini Trangia Alcohol Stove. Pocket Rocket for "legal backcountry camping" and Mini Trangia for "stealth camping" (b/c its silent)...

winger
07-27-2009, 10:56
White Box alcohol stove (solo version).

Hooch
07-27-2009, 11:00
Caldera Keg (http://www.antigravitygear.com/proddetail.php?prod=TDCKEG&cat=39).

boarstone
07-27-2009, 11:08
Z Zip wood stove/coleman peak 1 butane mix

beep
07-27-2009, 13:37
Caldera Cone (from AntiGravity Gear) and Evernew 900 ml "tall" pot. Boils 2 cups of water in 7-8 min on 3/4 oz of alcohol.

MintakaCat
07-27-2009, 15:27
micro mudpuppy stove

Jonnycat
07-27-2009, 15:55
Still using the Pepsi-G I made four years ago.

Arizona
07-27-2009, 16:00
Pepsi can alcohol stove with holes on the side, so no pot stand is needed. Weight including windscreen is about an ounce. They are about $8 on Ebay, or you can make yourself.

sheepdog
07-27-2009, 16:03
If you know how many stoves you have, you don't have enough stoves.
Different stoves for different conditions.
Many stoves just because they're cool.

Arizona
07-27-2009, 16:10
To answer the rest of your question, it takes about 5 minutes to boil 2 cups of water. Also, I would stay away from Etowah stoves. They are heavier, bulkier and cost a lot more than a regular Pepsi can stove.

daddytwosticks
07-27-2009, 16:41
Standard metal Snowpeak Giga canister stove or for short, lightweight hikes, homemade esbit stove (actually, just a "device" to hold the burning esbit tablet). :)

dmax
07-27-2009, 16:51
I prefer my starlyte.

chefjason
07-27-2009, 17:07
jet boil for me.

SmokeEater
07-27-2009, 17:09
Jetboil. Works great!

Summit
07-27-2009, 17:46
Jetboil . . . on a roll . . .

summitnh
07-27-2009, 17:54
I use a bios 2.1 from MBD. Works great. Red Sox on the can.

Skidsteer
07-27-2009, 19:02
A Turbo Tea-Lite when hiking solo
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/th_MoreTTLphotosandvids009.jpg (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/?action=view&current=MoreTTLphotosandvids009.jpg)

And a PMS Stove when cooking for two
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/PMS%20Stove/th_mOREpmsPICS027.jpg (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/PMS%20Stove/?action=view&current=mOREpmsPICS027.jpg)

Cool AT Breeze
07-27-2009, 19:07
Snow Peak Giga

Hoop
07-27-2009, 19:46
Caldera Cone (.9 L).
5-6 min boil.

mkmangold
07-27-2009, 20:06
I go back and forth between the Starlyte and the Fancee Feest. I don't time them, but I would estimate both to boil at about 7 minutes. The starlyte uses slightly less fuel, 1/2oz for 2 cups.

I love those two Zelph stoves but I don't get boil times anywhere near 7 minutes, more like twice that. Still use them once in awhile, though, and the Starlyte nests nicely inside the Fancee Feast so two for the space of one.
Alternatively, I use the WoodGas stove for longer hikes since I can always find wood and the Pocket Rocket for most adventures: small, reliable, and boils fast.

sheepdog
07-27-2009, 21:22
A Turbo Tea-Lite when hiking solo
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/th_MoreTTLphotosandvids009.jpg (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/More%20TTL%20photos/?action=view&current=MoreTTLphotosandvids009.jpg)

And a PMS Stove when cooking for two
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/PMS%20Stove/th_mOREpmsPICS027.jpg (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/acsskidsteer/PMS%20Stove/?action=view&current=mOREpmsPICS027.jpg)
Got a link for instructions on how to make this stove Skids? Looks pretty cool.

With the PMS stove do you get: unpredictability, irratability and sudden flare-ups, followed by meltdowns?? ;):D

MedicineMan
07-27-2009, 21:53
Caldera Cone or a Optimus Crux or a SnowPeak depending on the mood.
On the next hike it will probably be the canister/Crux just to save space, the crux folds up and stores in the bottom of the canister

Skidsteer
07-27-2009, 21:59
Got a link for instructions on how to make this stove Skids? Looks pretty cool.

I do. This is actually the third version.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22524
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=25729

Unfortunately, the common ingredient is the 2" diameter tealight tin which I can't find any more or I'd be selling them.

You can make it with a wedding tin but it's heavier and not as effecient.

Foyt20
07-27-2009, 22:01
clikstand and walmart greasepot for two/one person cooking

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n82/foyt20/IMG_0052.jpg

For boil water trips.

Lyle
07-27-2009, 23:38
AntiGravity Gear - Mama's Kitchen for several years now. Works great for three-season, solo - no reason to switch. For winter I still use my SVEA 123R (30+ years and counting) - can't beat it for size/weight/dependability.

I've never actually timed them. I've never been in that big of hurry when hiking to worry if I get supper in five minutes or ten minutes, as long as I get my supper every time.

mkmangold
07-28-2009, 00:30
After 3 attempts, I built this one and it works great: http://www.russellweekendadventurer.com/
I was able to get 2 cups of water to boil (and I mean a rolling boil) after only 5 minutes in a Kmart Greasepot.
If anyone needs special added instructions on how to make this thing, PM me.

Frick Frack
07-28-2009, 07:27
Jetboil, Pocket Rocket & Whisperlite depending on conditions....usually the Jetboil which did the 2175 miles just fine....

fredmugs
07-28-2009, 07:49
MSR Superfly with auto ignitiion.

BrianLe
07-29-2009, 00:41
As someone said earlier, it depends on some factors, like what you like to cook, how many meals, for how many people, what season (general temp range) and elevation.
Most of the time I use an alcohol stove; I like the Brasslite models, and had had poor luck in trying to make a good pepsi can stove. But recently I tried the instructions for a cat-food-can alcohol stove from http://www.andrewskurka.com/advice/technique/fancyfeaststove.php

This worked great, easy to make, works very well, is substantially lighter than my Brasslite. And my cat enjoyed the treat.

beep
07-29-2009, 13:10
I use a Caldera Cone with a 900ml Evernew tall pot. Total weight is around 10 oz.

I also have various white gas and iso/butane stoves but never carry them anymore...too much bulk, too much weight.

Berserker
07-30-2009, 12:40
Penny stove (alcohol) when I am feeling frisky, and Snowpeak Giga when I am feeling lazy.

Tinker
07-30-2009, 22:39
Supercat for alcohol for warm weather week long trips. http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2114782460059664855RxwVCk Usually I use a ti foil windscreen and a 1.3 liter Evernew ti pot with the handles removed. Boil time is between 5 and 6 minutes using 1/2 oz. fuel and 16 oz. of water in 50-70 degree temps. I've used it for breakfast in 10 degree weather after boiling water in a stainless bottle and sleeping with it overnight. Boil times were about the same because of the residual heat of the water (oh, I also slept with the alcohol bottle in my hammock).
I've used a Heineken can stove as well http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2455391440059664855bHjoVJ, boiling water with Esbit tabs in similar conditions in 7-8 min. Esbit stinks but it can't spill or leak and it's lighter for approx. the same heating power. Once the water boils it simmers with the Esbit as the tab grows smaller and produces less heat. The opposite is usual with alcohol stoves.
I sometimes use a Vargo Jet-ti cannister stove when cooking for two, and I use an MSR Whisperlite (purch. in 1986 used) with a new pump (last winter) in cold weather.

GGS2
07-31-2009, 00:13
Should be obvious by now, but there's no type of stove that everyone uses. They use all kinds of different ones.

Ranc0r
07-31-2009, 00:55
Coleman Peak 1, Primus Techno Trail canister, pepsi can. I just made a few white box type stoves (aluminum beer bottle) and I finally got the jets just right - I can boil .5L in under 4 minutes using either of 2 wide bottom kettle-type pots, or my 3 cup aluminum mug-pot. I'm very pleased with those results. I still will take the stove that best fits my needs for the trip.

Feral Bill
08-02-2009, 19:34
SVEA, 40 years of reliable service. Sometimes none, and cold food. Winters with a group, Optimus 111 B.

Cedar Tree
08-02-2009, 22:00
Brasslite, older model.
http://www.brasslite.com/index.html
CT

Flinx
08-03-2009, 00:04
Esbit...works fine.

High Altitude
08-03-2009, 21:55
Alcohol solo
Canister for two
White gas in winter

Wags
08-05-2009, 21:43
homemade woodstove as often as possible.

carry an alky backup

yaduck9
08-05-2009, 22:18
Home made caldera cone ( found info off of youtube ) with a Ti "kettle" pot and a home made 50 cent cat can stove.


I have used a zelph fancy feast stove and that works quite nicely also.

Tuckahoe
08-14-2009, 20:14
Still have an old Svea 123.

Tin Man
08-14-2009, 21:05
Should be obvious by now, but there's no type of stove that everyone uses. They use all kinds of different ones.

yep, boils water, good to go. lot of excitement over a little gas. :rolleyes:

MikenSalem
08-14-2009, 22:44
jetboil or a home made white box type alcohol stove. The WB 1 oz boils about 1.5 cups the jetboil who's counting - it's fast.

Richard Snider
08-15-2009, 20:47
MSR Pocket Rocket cannister and Vargo alcohol

JoshStover
08-22-2009, 23:42
I have waayy to many to list. I love to make my own stoves. I do have a jetboil and a pocket rocket. I bought the pocket rocket when they first came out (cant remember exactly when that was) and I have not had one bit of trouble with it! I would say that I have atleast 30 other alcohol stoves. I make them at work when I get bored. Im trying to perfect my new design for my thru next year...

Tatertot
09-23-2009, 13:17
Me personally I use the MSR whisper lite with a, oh man I cannot remember the name of the pot but it has a radiator of sorts on the
bottom. I can boil water in less than 2 minutes. and the stove will
pack into the pot for a total weight of about a pound. yeah i know
that drives some of the gram weeines crazy but my base weight minus food is just under 30 pounds. ok now i remember the pot. ETA primus 2 liter pot.

lazy river road
09-23-2009, 13:56
Jeeeezzz The HTO the outfitters I used for my Wyoming trip sold me on the wisper light international on how popular they are....now im reconsidering....if im doing the LT will the wisper light international be a good stove to bring

GeneralLee10
09-23-2009, 14:13
I use a tealite tin 1/4in hardware wire for stand and a windscreen made out of
alum flashing. Snow peak Mini Solo Cook Set Ti

BigFoot2002
09-23-2009, 17:44
I like my Etowah stove. Boils, then simmers my Knorr (Liptons) rice or pasta meals. Works great down to single digits.

sbhikes
09-23-2009, 18:03
I use my homemade F*** It Stove. I call it that because while punching the holes, the hole punch got stuck and messed up the holes. I said, oh f*** it, and punched the rest of the holes anyway. I went to try it out and it worked perfectly. It looks even worse now after 1800+ miles of use.

By the way, the way to simmer is to just put your pasta or whatever in the hot water, remove from heat, wrap the pot in something warm and wait 15 minutes.
http://www.trailgallery.com/photos/8707/tj8707%5F032609%5F132234%5F424028.jpg

partinj
09-23-2009, 18:13
Hi just wonder what time of year you are geting your boil time in the summer spring or winter. I made a pepsi and supercat and few other alchol stoves. With out exception
between Feb 5 to March 3 i could not get the water to boil in less than 15 minutes and
i did use a wind screen to long for me when i am cold and hungry. I think i stick with
the snow peak evn on it worst day could boil water in 4 1/2 minutes.

redick1955
09-24-2009, 00:17
I use a Littlbug woodburner. It only weigh about 6oz and does a good job

DaveJohns
10-02-2009, 04:00
Stupid question, but why so few Hobo stoves? (i think one mention of one in this thread) While I have several different setups, I have become fond of my gasification stove, and the fuel is certainly plentiful on the AT. Is there a real big reason why everyone carries bottles of fuel around with them?

Sorry if I am missing something obvious, but a wood stove isn't typically considered an open fire, so even in no-burn areas it should be acceptable. And picking up a couple of broken twigs and such while I am walking along is pretty easy. If it is raining, it takes a bit more work to get the fire started, but thats just part of the fun.

What am I missing?

Rockhound
10-02-2009, 09:32
plenty of people just use fire. was a little tougher this year with all the rain. I've been cooking with fire since 07' until I finally broke down and bought a Jetboil earlier this year.

nativesun
10-02-2009, 10:01
I use a Red Bull stove (a Pepsi Can stove design made with Red Bulls). I can boil 2 cups of water in 5 1/2 minutes with 1/2 oz of alcohol.

- NS

Pootz
10-02-2009, 10:02
Just using your bacis pepsi can stove that I added legs to. They serve to keep it from burning the cooking surface and work as a pot stand. The stove is a little unstable but I have managed to knock it over only twice. Saved most of my meal both times.

Pootz
10-02-2009, 10:03
I forgot to add that I have used the same stove for over 3000 miles of backpacking

garlic08
10-02-2009, 10:14
Jeeeezzz The HTO the outfitters I used for my Wyoming trip sold me on the wisper light international on how popular they are....now im reconsidering....if im doing the LT will the wisper light international be a good stove to bring

The Whisperlight (neither of which is true) is very popular among backpackers, not so much among thru hikers. Most here use a home-made alcohol stove, but I'll bet they started with a Whisperlight sold to them by their friendly local outfitter. I know I did. You'll probably do the same.

faarside
10-02-2009, 11:41
I switch between two different technologies depending on my hike...

I have used a Coleman Peak/1 multi-fuel for MANY years. It's always been reliable, albeit a bit on the heavy side. In alcohol stoves, I like the PackaFeather XL. Adjustable flame, and priced right @ $33.00. Much as I like building things, I just can't seem to bring myself to making my own stove! Here's a website link:

h (http://packafeather.com/xlstove.html)ttp://packafeather.com/xlstove.html (http://packafeather.com/xlstove.html)

avalonmorn
10-02-2009, 15:43
Coleman F-1 Ultralight, boils 2 cups water under 2 minutes...simmers great, low gas usage.

Mags
10-02-2009, 15:55
Coleman two burner stove. (http://www.coleman.com/coleman/ColemanCom/detail.asp?CategoryID=2020&product_id=425GA99)

I have a moonlight hike Oct 5th and I plan on hauling it in to grill some brats at the summit. The Coleman stove works well. I may toast the buns, too.

mudhead
10-02-2009, 16:20
Be sure to save some of that apple brandy for the stew.

Mags
10-02-2009, 16:43
Be sure to save some of that apple brandy for the stew.

Multiuse. :)

Del Q
10-02-2009, 18:07
Esbit Titanium Wing Stove wit esbit tabs (super light, simple, works for me - some meals = two tabs needed, when I cook this is what I have been using, doing more no-cook meals which is the easist.

Connie
10-08-2009, 15:29
I just placed my order for a Caldera Keg™ - GVP Stove System from Gossamer Gear, and, I have purchased a paper hole-punch to make a Cat-stove from a small can of Snow minced clams on instructions I saw on YouTube.

I am purchasing 10" flashing from Home Depot and Fiskars sissors to make more conical section windscreens, if my stove experiments burn up my Caldera cone.

I think I will like to make more sizes for different backpacking cook pots I have already purchased. I will use the links I found here in the White Blaze forum for the HowTo and the measurements to make the Caldera cone clone.

I would like to have a fast boil version of the cone, having fast-boil and stove stability.

I might have to go titanium. If so, I will ask Trail Designs for a custom-build.

Mags
10-08-2009, 15:36
Coleman two burner stove. (http://www.coleman.com/coleman/ColemanCom/detail.asp?CategoryID=2020&product_id=425GA99)

I have a moonlight hike Oct 5th and I plan on hauling it in to grill some brats at the summit. The Coleman stove works well. I may toast the buns, too.


In action from a different trip:

http://www.pmags.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16031&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=119b28e3dc3f09387b46a5aa240c9c76

Yukon
10-08-2009, 15:42
MSR Pocket Rocket for spring, summer, and fall...MSR Whisperlite Internationale for winter.

Trooper
10-12-2009, 08:43
open top jet pepsi can stove. boils 2 cups in 3 minutes with 1 TBSP of denatured alcohol.

Montego
10-12-2009, 22:37
Used a Coleman Peak 1 white gas for my first attempt. I'ts been a reliable friend for many, many years but oh so HEAVY to haul long distance. For next year it's going to be an MSR Pocket Rocket.

highfisher
10-13-2009, 02:04
I use a homemade alky with attachments boil 2 cups 3-4 min or simmer 4+ hrs on 1oz. My complete kitchen wieghts about 12oz,but I can boil water, make pancakes,biscuts,homemade stew, chili (not rehydrated, from scratch)and of course a 2cup perk coffee pot. Not all store bought stuff is the best..:-?

waldick
10-13-2009, 09:30
jet boil when its me and my wife

a homemade alky stove and Heini can when solo..
after i have of course consumed the contents :) ..of the Heini can that is

waldick
10-13-2009, 09:33
mostly though i like this one...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:GcsHqyGrkcuvAM:http://images04.olx.com/ui/2/81/07/20617407_1.jpg

Jayboflavin04
10-13-2009, 12:06
I use a regular Pack a feather.... Featherfire.....works good thus far.

Doooglas
10-14-2009, 04:28
I use my homemade F*** It Stove. I call it that because while punching the holes, the hole punch got stuck and messed up the holes. I said, oh f*** it, and punched the rest of the holes anyway. I went to try it out and it worked perfectly. It looks even worse now after 1800+ miles of use.

By the way, the way to simmer is to just put your pasta or whatever in the hot water, remove from heat, wrap the pot in something warm and wait 15 minutes.
http://www.trailgallery.com/photos/8707/tj8707%5F032609%5F132234%5F424028.jpg
Definitelya fine looking piece of Amurkin Kraftsmanship.:eek:
Reminds me when government motors made a car called a Vega.:D

MedicineMan
10-18-2009, 21:41
I think I've go the entire gamut now...started with an Optimus 99r, then an XGK, just bought a SVEA for the fun factor. While my section hikes on the AT were 2-5 days I'd use alcohol but the last 2 hikes approaching 3 weeks I've gone to a canister set up. Soon I'll be playing with MLD ti mug and the modified Caldera Cone that will fit inside the mug along with the burner.

sylvia_claire
10-18-2009, 21:54
bushbuddy, don't know the boil time but there is free fuel everywhere so I don't care

-sc

Mags
10-18-2009, 22:05
I didn't use it to cook, but I did have some BBQ last night cooked via a woodfired smoker.

Made by this gentleman:

http://static.px.yelp.com/bphoto/G5FWP-3npfCeO0aNa9PsFw/l



Damn..was it good...

brooklynkayak
10-19-2009, 09:42
Stupid question, but why so few Hobo stoves?

1) Requires some fire making skills.
Becomes much easier with practice.

2) Soot
Just wrap your kitchen gear before putting it in your pack.

3) Slow
Maybe a little slower, if the fuel is damp. Dry wood can be fast.

4) Unreliable
Always worked for me.

Another option is to not bring a stove. Just build a small fire on a rock or on the ground if there isn't a ground fire issue. A windscreen of some sort can improve performance in strong winds.

wheatus
10-19-2009, 15:58
alcohol and MSR XGK II

WILLIAM HAYES
10-19-2009, 16:25
use a brasslite turbo works well for me

Username75
10-19-2009, 17:01
Swiss Ranger Cookset, it burns dry Grass/Twigs/hexi/Triox/
Tea lite candles/a dab of sterno/ or a Gram Weenie Alchy Stove.
which fits through the slot just fine.
I also use a Jiffy Heat alcohol stove and a Jumbo sierra cup.

Connie
10-23-2009, 14:43
I have a fitted stuff sack for each cooking pot.

I did find this (http://www.bplite.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=67) helpful means of removing soot and burnt residue from the pan bottom.

It uses liquid chafing fuel.


Here is my latest stove: http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s197/geekgrrl_2007/Keg_Caddy1.jpg

The Caldera Keg - GVP Stove System.

This one uses esbit. I will try it with Coghlans, as well.


Here is the Clam can stove (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBCAvQn6vHM), I mentioned higher up the thread.

SunnyWalker
10-29-2009, 12:51
MSR Whisperlite
Triangia
Pocket

Wise Old Owl
10-29-2009, 14:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PcWUeR-Uj0&NR=1

Espero
10-30-2009, 11:03
Tibetan Titanium Solid Fuel Stove with one Esbit or two Coghlan's fuel tabs. Boil time about seven minutes for two cups of water in a 700ml titanium mug. Stove weight is 0.5oz.