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XCskiNYC
09-21-2009, 23:13
This bag is on sale now for $140. The sale bag is identified as the "old" model and the specs say it's 1 lb 15 ozs whereas the current specs on the model at Marmot say 2 lbs 3 ozs. Both put the 600-power down fill at 12 ozs.

Marmot's EN rating numbers for Comfort, Lower Limit, and Extreme are 41.4, 32.4, and 4.5, respectively. These numbers are for the new style bag but since it has the same amount of 600-power down fill it seems like insulative capabilities would be similar between new and old models.

http://marmot.com/fall_2009/equipment/sleeping_bags/outdoor/never_winter_reg/info/details

The bag would be used for hiking the AT up to end of this Fall in the CT-MA area. Using weather information for Salisbury, CT we get an average low for November of 29 degrees and a record low of 5 degrees. Taking the median between the average and the record gives 17 degrees. I'm not looking for a bag rated that low, more like 30, but the bag should at least allow survival if the temp happens to get down around that low a level.

Is this a good bag for this type of use? I would not mind wearing extra clothing if need be to bring up the insulation.

Is $140 a good price for this bag? Some other bags around this price range I've looked at are the Campmor 20 ($120) and the Kelty Light Year 20 ($130).


Since I'm a warm sleeper the bag should have a full zip so it can be turned into a quilt for use in warmer weather. A second choice would be something like the Kelty with a 3/4-length zipper and a foot zipper.

Besides the price limit, I also have a weight limit in mind: 2 lbs. The bag can be a little over that, but a bag like the Mountain Hardwear Piute which sells for $210 and is rated down to 20 degrees but weighs 2 lbs 10 ozs would be over my max weight limit for a down bag.

Actually, the Campmor is also pushing the weight limit if this review is correct at giving the bag's actual weight (in the long version) as 2 lbs 11 ozs. If the long version is really 2 lbs 11 ozs then the short, with claimed weight of 2 lbs 4 ozs. is probably 2 lbs 9 ozs.

http://www.trailquest.net/gear.html#downbag

So wadda ya think? Good for Fall in the Berkshires?

MikenSalem
09-21-2009, 23:22
I got one (Marmot NW30)and it's fine here in the south but I've talked with others who say get a liner if you're going to use it in the cooler weather and it'll be good to the 20's. I used it last May down into the 40's and it was fine. Mine came from eBAy was ~120 in the spring of 08. It is very light for the comfort/price. Sorry I couldn't help more maybe someone else can.