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mister krabs
10-21-2009, 10:28
I saw someone mention this in another thread, but it deserved it's own post. Land's End has a new 700 fill down jacket this year that looks like it might make a good insulating layer. It's called the SnowPack 700, (http://www.landsend.com/pp/SnowPack700DownJacket%7E198978_59.html) packs into it's own pocket, and weighs 17oz for an xl, so less than a lb for a L. My email to cust. service got me the weight, they say they'll try to find out the fill weight from the manufacturing rep. I'll update if I get an answer.

Right now it's 100$, but earlier this week it was 80$ and I'm betting that after christmas we'll see them at 50-60. Looks like it might be a pretty good deal for discount shoppers/dirtbaggers.

http://picnica.ciao.com/de/243038646.jpg

http://s7.landsend.com/is-viewers/dhtml/images/spacer.gif

Grinder
10-21-2009, 13:04
Thanks for the heads up.

I've been watching for an affordable used montbell inner down jacket, with no luck (that you can't find one seems to be the gold standard for "authentic this is the best" rating)

This one might make an adequate stand in.

If anyone buys one, please report back.

Grinder

Blissful
10-25-2009, 19:41
Boy I hope so - this looked mighty good to me...just waiting for a price drop. Ladies version was 14 oz which is lighter then what I have now, and I like that it packs in its pocket which is compact and would fit nicely in my pack. I looked at it in my local Sears store.

Deadeye
10-25-2009, 20:20
My Lands' End down vest weighs 10 oz, so 17 for a full jacket sounds right. Good quality product, I've had my eye on that jacket, too...

Wise Old Owl
10-25-2009, 23:45
Yep same thing happened two years in a row with LL Bean.

Looks a little trekky or Dune, yes that Patrick Stewart wearing a black version of the same thing.

http://www.junkopia.net/gifs/illus/dune-desert-planet.jpg

flemdawg1
10-26-2009, 17:08
For $50 I'd definately snap one up. I bought their cheapy 500 fill down vest for $30, excellent investment and much lighter than a fleece.

Mags
10-26-2009, 18:16
Looks a little better than the EMS Glacier jacket (http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3646493) that was $50 less than a year ago.

I have the EMS jacket. It is a pretty decent to good jacket, but a bit box for my tastes.

The Lands End looks more form-fitting (less dead air to heat up) and has slightly higher fill power.


Not too shabby.

Toolshed
10-26-2009, 19:55
Ditto on the Vests. I picked up 2 down vest 3 years ago on closeout for $19.99. Great Deal, though they seem to be a littel more than a pound in weight.

mister krabs
10-30-2009, 15:58
75$ today

Lands' End takes 25% off any regular-priced men's item, including jackets, sweaters, and coats, via coupon code "NOV2" and PIN "23237929". Plus, it also bags free shipping.

I'm holding out till after christmas, I'm shooting for 60$
I have their vest too, best 20 bucks I've spent on a new piece of outerwear. Bought a closeout one for my son for 15$ a few weeks ago.

Not Sunshine
10-30-2009, 16:01
Thanks for the heads up.

I've been watching for an affordable used montbell inner down jacket, with no luck (that you can't find one seems to be the gold standard for "authentic this is the best" rating)

This one might make an adequate stand in.

If anyone buys one, please report back.

Grinder


hahahahah! i'm laughing because I, too, am watching for an affordable used montbell thermawrap.

but after hearing how you've been unsuccessful has hinted me to the likely truth: once we buy one, we won't ever sell it.

evidently they are worth the $$.

Red Hat
10-30-2009, 20:51
hahahahah! i'm laughing because I, too, am watching for an affordable used montbell thermawrap.

but after hearing how you've been unsuccessful has hinted me to the likely truth: once we buy one, we won't ever sell it.

evidently they are worth the $$.

I bought my Montbell for $100 on sale. Got the heads up on the sale right here a year ago. Best money I ever spent on a jacket. (I spent lots more than that on a Marmot several years ago and lost it my first hike)

Grinder
11-04-2009, 11:45
Got the new llbean catalog today.
On page 35 there is a goose down outer wear listing

They show a jacket, rated at 15 degrees, for 69 in regular sizes. Free shipping too. There is an extra zipper for a front chest pocket. No weight listed and no packing size description.

Does anyone already own one and care to take the time to comment?

I've owned some llbean stuff and it was pretty good.

Grinder
11-05-2009, 13:54
Just a follow up if you don't pour over every post like i do<g><G>

In a separate post about the LLBEAN coat, Mags told us it is a winter coat, big and bulky. He even posted a picture of one in use.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55524

I'm beginning to think even the land's end coat will be pretty heavy duty. The temperature rating is comparable to the LLBEAN. It weighs 17 Oz, which is twice what a montbell weighs (8 oz versus 17 oz. prox.)

Maybe I'll finally learn my lesson and just buy the best instead of being a penny pinching miserly second class hiker <g> Remember, I said "maybe". Don't quote me</g></g>

Reid
11-05-2009, 14:22
I bet Lewis and Clark would have jumped all over each other to get any of the "second class" stuff we have today. It may just be a fixed point of reference that leads us to believe that just because there's more expensive and quite possibly better gear out there that the lesser of cost gear is not adaquate.

Mags
11-05-2009, 14:40
<g><g>

Maybe I'll finally learn my lesson and just buy the best instead of being a penny pinching miserly second class hiker <g> Remember, I said "maybe". Don't quote me</g></g>

I'll quote you. :)

Check out this Cabela's coat. Seems to be a lighter down coat more akin to what you want:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?type=product&id=0044635920056a&cmCat=netcon&cm_ven=netcon&cm_cat=Google&cm_pla=cabelas%20down%20coat&cm_ite=netcon

Not sure of the weight, however.

BTW, I wouldn't call the Lands End or Bean coat "2nd class"..it's just meant for a different type of activity: Stationary in very cold weather...winter camping in other words.

I think you are looking for something for shoulder season activities or quick breaks in cold weather?


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mister krabs
11-05-2009, 15:21
BTW, I wouldn't call the Lands End or Bean coat "2nd class"..it's just meant for a different type of activity: Stationary in very cold weather...winter camping in other words.

I think you are looking for something for shoulder season activities or quick breaks in cold weather?


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Winter camping and everyday wear is what I had this in mind for. For every day wear, I like the durability factor. I want it to be able to be an outer jacket and not worry. I've held the WM flash jacket and it's scary light. The lands end jacket seems more like a cheap version of a jacket like the MB permafrost or WM vapor jacket at just a small weight penalty along with the compromises in warmth, fill power, etc. I don't use compromise as a dirty word, it's a tool for making decisions. When you choose between cheap light and durable, it's all a value judgement. This seems to me like a pretty good value.

I'd like the jacket for times where now I'd take a field jacket liner *and* my lands end cheap down vest. This would save me half a lb. over that setup and keep me warmer. In the long evenings of the winter, when sitting around camp around freezing or below I need a thicker poofy layer than just the field jacket liner. For short breaks I just use my shell & baselayer. If I get cold in that, I'm not in danger of sweating.

I've asked for a lands end gift certificate for christmas. I'm going to snag this as soon as it hits 60$. I'll let you know how I like it!

timebreaks
11-06-2009, 10:56
Just got my Land's End Snowpack 700 in the mail! I'm taking it out on ShelterLeopard's shakedown hike next weekend, so I will report back. On first inspection, it looks pretty good. Kind of a PITA to stuff into the pocket, but maybe it'll be easier w/ practice.

Grinder
11-06-2009, 12:02
timebreaks,
Oh Goody!!
A real eyeball report. How big is the "stuffed in the pocket" size.
Got a camera?? A picture of it stuffed and one of you modeling would be great!!!

TIA

Mags,
The problem is, I don't "know" what I want. I only know what I don't want after I buy it and test it. I've never heard the term "shoulder season" before, but it's self explanatory.

I noted before that *Lots of hikers* with much more experience than I wear one of the mont bell inner parkas (apparently there is a synthetic version that looks just the same)

I know, from experience, that in addition to weight, cube is important on the trail. That pack fills up fast.

Last spring, I got through a few unexpected under 20 degrees F nights with my current gear and it wasn't too bad.The old hands were loafing around in their mont bells and looked cozy. The full dream is to have the down pants too. But that will have to wait for a year or two.

Mags
11-06-2009, 13:37
Last spring, I got through a few unexpected under 20 degrees F nights with my current gear and it wasn't too bad.The old hands were loafing around in their mont bells and looked cozy. The full dream is to have the down pants too. But that will have to wait for a year or two.


I use a Thermawrap by Montbell in those late/early season hikes. (Synthethic version of the down inner liner basically). They are quite nice. I also use it for winter during quick breaks.

As for the pants, if you are on budget, and don't mind something fugly, try the army liner pants:
http://www.rddusa.com/U-S-G-I-M-65-Pants-Liner-Military-Army-Liners-Army-Clothing-Military-Surplus-Military-Gear-Camouflage-Clothing-Army-Navy-Surplus-Vintage-Urban-Wear-Out-Wear-Us-Gi.html

They do wear as "highwaters" because they are meant to be worn with combat boots..but otherwise they are great.


I use them for camping trips and social backpacks (when I am out of my bag a bit more).

timebreaks
11-06-2009, 22:51
Some pics of the jacket stuffed into its pocket, w/ a dollar bill for size reference (size is Women's M):

http://touchinglivesonline.com/uploads/images/SnowPack%20700%20024.jpg

http://touchinglivesonline.com/uploads/images/SnowPack%20700%20025.jpg


The size of the zipper makes stuffing it in there a little fussy. I wish that it was longer and the opening was bigger. Also, there is an extra layer of pocket that serves as the stuff sack, but there seems to be a lot of extra fabric in it. I haven't been able to get the jacket to fill out the stuff sack completely. A minor quibble, I suppose, but it's just not as neat a package as, say, my Campmor rain shell, which also stuffs into its own pocket.

I will post pics of it in use after the trip! Also, I will try to get to the post office to weigh it, since I don't have a scale of my own.

Also, does anyone know how to change the size of pictures to embed them in a post and not have them take over the whole screen? My website's image editor doesn't want to resize them. :confused:

Rain Man
11-07-2009, 00:13
Some pics of the jacket stuffed into its pocket, w/ a dollar bill for size reference (size is Women's M):.

Both your links give me "404 Not Found" error messages. :(

Rain Man

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timebreaks
11-07-2009, 09:37
Let's try this again:

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=37807&c=666

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=37816&c=member&imageuser=20852

Grinder
11-07-2009, 09:51
Thank You!! You do good work!!

Now all I gotta do is wait for the sale.

Rain Man
11-07-2009, 10:12
Let's try this again:

BINGO!!! Thanks for the persistence.

Rain:sunMan

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Grinder
11-07-2009, 13:33
I went and looked at the cabella's light weight down jacket that Mags linked and, from the spec point of view, it is exactly what I want, (If I can't/won't buy montbell).

But (always a but!!!) the only colors currently available are chestnut and Wintergreen. AAARG!!
In the dream, I'm striding down (up??) the trail in graphite/ black, the color all those veteran hikers in Franklin wore.

I am a vain SOB aren't I??

<g></g>

bigcranky
11-07-2009, 18:03
I have a couple of down jackets that stuff into their own pockets. I tend to not use that feature for a couple of reasons:

1. It's a PITA.
2. It creates a small hard lump that can be difficult to pack.
3. I don't like to stuff my down that much.

I find it's a lot easier to slide my down jacket inside my pack flat against the front of the pack. It doesn't take up any room that way, and it's easily accessible for breaks in cold weather.

Mags
11-07-2009, 19:15
In the dream, I'm striding down (up??) the trail in graphite/ black, the color all those veteran hikers in Franklin wore.


<g></g>

I wear green, blue, black, white maroon, red, od green, khaki. and so on. :)

Whatever happened to be on sale/avail...

(I think forest green goes well in any environment personally!)


Then again, I would not go by my sartorial splendor when I am out hiking or skiing. ....

http://www.pmags.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14207&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=77000626a1339dd45bf12635c7bb6c5f



http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/profile6/343/42/n563440020_8093.jpg


(Trail run today: Black shorts and blue shirt. I did not look that bad...or that good! :D)

bigcranky
11-07-2009, 20:11
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Then again, I would not go by my sartorial splendor when I am out hiking or skiing.

Hiker trash....

timebreaks
11-07-2009, 23:21
I have a couple of down jackets that stuff into their own pockets. I tend to not use that feature for a couple of reasons:

1. It's a PITA.
2. It creates a small hard lump that can be difficult to pack.
3. I don't like to stuff my down that much.

I find it's a lot easier to slide my down jacket inside my pack flat against the front of the pack. It doesn't take up any room that way, and it's easily accessible for breaks in cold weather.


I have a feeling that I'm not going to use the stuff sack feature either on this jacket. We'll see how it goes next weekend!

Mrs Baggins
11-08-2009, 08:35
I looked at the ladies version in Sears yesterday. Seems every bit as good as my Patagonia Down Sweater and it's half the price. The colors are better, too.

superman
11-08-2009, 08:52
Hiker trash....

Definately.:-?

russb
11-08-2009, 08:57
Also, does anyone know how to change the size of pictures to embed them in a post and not have them take over the whole screen? My website's image editor doesn't want to resize them. :confused:

Image resizer works very quickly and easily: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx

timebreaks
11-08-2009, 22:56
Thanks! I just downloaded it. I'll use it to post the pictures I take next weekend. :)

Grinder
11-09-2009, 12:06
SCOOP
The jacket is on sale!!

The price dropped to $75 ish and there is a promotion for 25% off that with free shipping

My delivered price is $59.87
coupon code "NOV"
PIN 6853

Hope it works for you too

Bags4266
11-09-2009, 21:11
That's a nice deal. I don't do much hiking when it's that cold to use this jacket. Good luck!

timebreaks
11-11-2009, 21:30
Well, it looks like the forecast this weekend is warm and wet! Bad weather for down. I may not get a chance to test out the jacket after all. :(

BrianLe
11-13-2009, 22:40
I use a Montbell Thermawrap for 3, sometimes "3+" season use too, and I love it. Starting on the AT in late Feb this coming year I was convinced to start out with something beefier so I just got a Montbell Alpine Light Parka.

My particular point which may be somehow relevant to this thread (apologies if not ...) is that I was surprised at how low a weight hit I may take in making this switch. My size medium thermawrap jacket weighs 9.9 oz (281g) without stuff sack, and my new size large alpine light parka weighs 15.6 oz (441g), including stuff sack. Since the parka includes a hood, I'm toying with the idea of leaving one of two hat layers home, which saves 2.7 oz; if that's the case then I get a much beefier (albeit down rather than synthetic) jacket at a weight delta of about 3 oz. Since I never walk in the Thermawrap jacket anyway (too warm), the only downside is the possibility of the down parka getting wet. I think I can just be reasonably careful about that for the first few weeks ...

Blissful
11-14-2009, 21:22
The snowpack 700 jacket (and other down) is 25% off right now through Nov 17.

Use this code for free shipping (through Nov 17)

promo code - evergreen
PIN 2425

timebreaks
11-15-2009, 21:27
I found that the jacket was plenty warm for the weekend. Some down plumes were working themselves out around the stitching, but I was told that it was not an abnormal amount, and that some loss of the feathers is par for the course with down (this is the first down piece I've owned). I was wearing out around camp in a little bit of drizzle/drip from the trees, and the DWR coating repelled the water well for a while. I did end up putting my rain shell over it after a while, and the SnowPack layered nicely. ShelterLeopard borrowed my jacket during lunch, since her Patagonia down sweater was packed deep in her pack - and was annoyed that my jacket was basically the same as hers (even the color!) and less than half the price. All in all, I think that it's a worthwhile purchase. My camera died on this weekend's trip. :( ERNMAN has some pics of me and ShelterLeopard in our "matching" jackets, so I'll post them once I get them.

Grinder
11-15-2009, 21:49
mine will arrive Monday or Tuesday, It's in Jacksonville Fl today.

I'll provide a second opinion of fit and finish. It will be a while before I get to performance since I live in Florida

Grinder
11-17-2009, 12:44
OKAY!! Jacket arrived on schedule. I couldn't be happier.

Actual weight of a Large (per a chintzy postal scale) is 14.5 Oz.

Finish is great.
Fit is a little bulky through the torso and stomach area but sleeve length and shoulder width is about perfect

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ShelterLeopard
11-17-2009, 12:51
I found that the jacket was plenty warm for the weekend. Some down plumes were working themselves out around the stitching, but I was told that it was not an abnormal amount, and that some loss of the feathers is par for the course with down (this is the first down piece I've owned). I was wearing out around camp in a little bit of drizzle/drip from the trees, and the DWR coating repelled the water well for a while. I did end up putting my rain shell over it after a while, and the SnowPack layered nicely. ShelterLeopard borrowed my jacket during lunch, since her Patagonia down sweater was packed deep in her pack - and was annoyed that my jacket was basically the same as hers (even the color!) and less than half the price. All in all, I think that it's a worthwhile purchase. My camera died on this weekend's trip. :( ERNMAN has some pics of me and ShelterLeopard in our "matching" jackets, so I'll post them once I get them.

:mad::mad::mad::p:mad::mad::mad::mad::datz:datz:da tz

The difference was definitely notable, totally worth the extra $100. Hmm...

mister krabs
11-17-2009, 13:51
OKAY!! Jacket arrived on schedule. I couldn't be happier.


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In the dream, I'm striding down (up??) the trail in graphite/ black, the color all those veteran hikers in Franklin wore.


Yer livin the dream man! livin the dream....

Mags
11-17-2009, 14:10
Originally Posted by Grinder http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/wb_style/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?p=920974#post920974)
In the dream, I'm striding down (up??) the trail in graphite/ black, the color all those veteran hikers in Franklin wore.


TRAIL NINJA !!!!! :D

cruisaire
11-22-2009, 10:18
We need a shipping promotion code!!!!

superman
11-22-2009, 10:35
OKAY!! Jacket arrived on schedule. I couldn't be happier.

Actual weight of a Large (per a chintzy postal scale) is 14.5 Oz.

Finish is great.
Fit is a little bulky through the torso and stomach area but sleeve length and shoulder width is about perfect

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The jacket looks fine but the person looks funny.:D

squeezebox
11-22-2009, 11:30
I bought one also, thought that I might bring it for an Apr 10 start of a thru hike , use it around camp rather than really hike in it. There are synthetic jackets out there about the same weight and price. would not have to worry about getting wet. do I need to bring a puffy jacket.
Thanks

Bags4266
11-22-2009, 13:45
We need a shipping promotion code!!!!


Today last day! Promo code: Nov22 PIN: 00009843

Bags4266
11-22-2009, 13:50
Just tried the code. It's free shipping but the jacket is now $80.00:( Not worth it at that price

Grinder
11-22-2009, 13:53
boy oh boy, superman!!!
Ain't that the truth.

I took the picture and thought "Who the hell is that!!"

You're only 62, cheer up, it gets worse!!

Bags4266
11-22-2009, 13:58
boy oh boy, superman!!!
Ain't that the truth.

I took the picture and thought "Who the hell is that!!"

You're only 62, cheer up, it gets worse!!



The frightening thing about middle age is that you grow out of it!

ShelterLeopard
11-22-2009, 15:13
boy oh boy, superman!!!
Ain't that the truth.

I took the picture and thought "Who the hell is that!!"

You're only 62, cheer up, it gets worse!!

No one is allowed to claim "old age" until they're at least 85. I know, because when hiking, I've been outstripped by 75 year olds plenty of times. (Even in the summer, when I was in slightly better shape)

Old age my foot! That's just something y'all say to lull us young uns into a false sense of security, then when we're winded, you're passing us by to get the best spot in the shelter!!!

I know your game...

cruisaire
11-22-2009, 15:28
Just tried the code. It's free shipping but the jacket is now $80.00:( Not worth it at that price

I'm with you bags! But I WILL keep watching it and bite when it gets to the 60-ish level
.

llano
11-22-2009, 15:45
The frightening thing about middle age is that you grow out of it!

But it beats the alternative. :)

Wags
11-22-2009, 21:29
thanks for the code bags! saved me $12 on a jacket order for my gal

Blissful
11-22-2009, 21:42
I'm with you bags! But I WILL keep watching it and bite when it gets to the 60-ish level
.


In Jan it will likely be that price.

Bags4266
11-22-2009, 22:06
I think I'm leaning toward that Montbell 3/4 down jacket. I like the concept. Around town you look like a dweeb but it would only be for hiking.

cruisaire
11-26-2009, 10:29
In Jan it will likely be that price.

I guess January came early! Check the 40% off today and tomorrow + free shipping..... Booyah!

Grinder
11-26-2009, 11:10
there's two threads on this :see
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55524&highlight=land%27s+end

for a link to the sale

(true confessions:Actually, I'm a dumass and posted it to the llbean jacket thread.)

cruisaire
11-26-2009, 12:09
You ain't a dumbass!

mister krabs
12-03-2009, 11:59
I guess January came early! Check the 40% off today and tomorrow + free shipping..... Booyah!

Got one for 60$! It's on the way.

taildragger
12-03-2009, 12:28
Sounds like a good jacket.

A few years ago I managed to pick up some EMS glacier jackets (600 fill) for about $50 for two jackets and a vest. They're nicely made, but not the lightest.

cruisaire
12-03-2009, 15:08
Excellente! Mine arrived yesterday. Looks and feels great! Get to test it Saturday when the temps dip and the rain/snow mix starts!

mister krabs
12-05-2009, 20:21
Got mine today and it sure is toasty. It's way warmer than my field jacket liner, easily as warm as a 300wt sherpa fleece and more wind resistant. I think it may even be warmer than my aran isles fisherman's sweater which is about 4 lbs of wool. The men's model is definitely big around the middle, and that's counting that I'm big around the middle too. I'm 6'2" and 225. I almost always take an XL. I ordered an XL, but I think I could have gotten the large and still worn a sweater underneath.

I'll try it out for temperature tonight, it's down near freezing.

mister krabs
12-06-2009, 11:32
Sat out on my front porch last night till about 11 in a merino base layer, the snowpack jacket and a shell. Just sitting there I was warm @ 30* for a couple hours as I watched the night and listened to the radio. I'm happy with the jacket's performance, though I'm sure that the tropical sounds of Radio Havana provided some psychological warmth.:sun

cruisaire
12-06-2009, 13:08
Hey Mister,
What's 2 or 3 suggestions for a shell layer? I'm using a thrift store special (Bimini Bay
rip stop, hooded shell, pu coated with taped seams) but always looking for other cheap options.

Tia

ps I had the Satellit 800 cranked up last night...it's that time of year for cold, clear reception!

mister krabs
12-06-2009, 13:32
Ha! cruisaire, too funny I was wearing a bimini bay shell too. I bought it at walmart a few years ago and have never seen one since. My other shells are a columbia and sierra designs that are thrift store specials.

Secret Squirrel
12-06-2009, 16:20
I also got mine last week during a sale for $60. It weighs 15 oz(XL). I wore it last night as I camped in the Hoosier National Forest. It kept me quite warm. The temperature got down to 18. I wore a Patagonia merino wool shirt as a base layer. As someone else said it is roomy.

cruisaire
12-06-2009, 22:03
Ha! cruisaire, too funny I was wearing a bimini bay shell too. I bought it at walmart a few years ago and have never seen one since. My other shells are a columbia and sierra designs that are thrift store specials.

Twin sons from different mothers! Good to know it ain't just me cruising the thrifty's! I'll keep a watch out for more. A cheap, sealed shell is a beautiful thing.

Grinder
12-07-2009, 08:46
last day of 25% off of 74.50 sale.

http://www.landsend.com/cgi-bin/ApplyPromo.cgi?redirect=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2elandsen d%2ecom&sourceCode=DEC7&sourceCodeCNum=00001043&cm_mmc=usnews-_-usnews_120709_mns-_-topnav-_-frontdoor&emid=usnews_120709_mns&RRID=4694037203

that's a bit under 60with free shipping.

Merry xmas

mister krabs
12-07-2009, 09:56
last day of 25% off of 74.50 sale.

http://www.landsend.com/cgi-bin/ApplyPromo.cgi?redirect=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2elandsen d%2ecom&sourceCode=DEC7&sourceCodeCNum=00001043&cm_mmc=usnews-_-usnews_120709_mns-_-topnav-_-frontdoor&emid=usnews_120709_mns&RRID=4694037203

that's a bit under 60with free shipping.

Merry xmas


Grinder, I tried it out to get one for my honey, but it looks like it's just 25% off 99$. The site says "prices shown reflect savings"

Grinder
12-07-2009, 12:11
It looks like you're right!!

When I got mine I got 25 % off the current price plus free shipping.

One thing that could be causing this. The special terms came off an email I got from them because I signed up for notification of sales. Maybe it's tied to that. When I clicked on the site the first screen I saw was "Your special offer is activated" or similar wording.

Second possibility is I just got lucky. In my case, in early November, the price was lowered from 99.50 and I got 25% off of that. Maybe they screwed up??

I'd call them myself, I state what I want and that someone else got that deal at the start of the sale.
Hope you get lucky too

Blissful
12-07-2009, 15:11
At Thanksgiving I saw them at 40% off at Sears. If you donate an old jacket you get another 20% off. I'm hoping they are still running the deal as I couldn't get it then.

Grinder
12-07-2009, 19:35
http://www.landsend.com/cd/frontdoor?af_id=linkshare&cm_mmc=Affiliate-_-Default-_-Homepage-_-Text

Here's a link from a coupon site that says 25 off and from 74.50 and free ship over 50
HTH

cruisaire
12-09-2009, 09:17
Price dropped again, 50% off for the next 2 days with free shipping.

Grinder
12-09-2009, 10:11
You bbeat me, cruise aire
Here's a link
http://www.landsend.com/ix/mens-clothing/Men/Outerwear/Jackets-Coats/Down-Insulated/index.html?seq=1~2~3~4~5&catNumbers=1~43~44~50&visible=1~2~1~1~1&store=le&sort=Recommended&pageSize=12&tab=1

mister krabs
12-09-2009, 11:30
Got one for my honey's stocking- 49.75, 3.50 in tax, free shipping coupon code DEC10 PIN 00008104

$53.24 shipped.

These price fluctuations are nuts, but at 50$ this is a super value.

tuswm
12-13-2009, 21:18
The price went back up but I just called the 1-800 number and asked for the old sale price.!! it worked no problem!! score, and got one for the GF. will report back pater.

Hyway
12-13-2009, 21:35
I ordered one when it was $53.24 shipped.

Blissful
12-15-2009, 21:20
The gal was knocking the jackets down 50% off today in Sears.

Rocketman
12-16-2009, 13:34
Lands End Says:


TEMPERATURE RATING: -10 to 15 Fahrenheit. Use this as a comfort range for the type of climate you'll be wearing this SnowPack Jacket in while wearing a typical winter wardrobe.
I had the jacket on while going out briefly at 18F this morning.

I was feeling the chill of the morning just taking out the newspapers.

The -10F to 15F rating seems perhaps on the optimistic side. With another layer on, I could have easily handled the 15F with just a walking pace and a light load to carry. The -10 capability might be there if I were snowshoeing or Xcountry skiing. Certainly 0F for those more strenuous activities.

Anybody else have cold/warm experiences to share? I may don the Montbell light parka just for comparison.

Oh, the Montbell Light parka was much warmer. Tighter fit, but much warmer.

Hyway
12-16-2009, 14:44
Rocketman, the neighbors said the next time you check your mail with just your jacket on, could you please add some pants to the ensemble.

tuswm
12-17-2009, 16:57
Just got two of them in the mail. I MED for my self and a MED for the GF.

mens med 14 oz
womens med 12 oz

This definitely fits much larger then any MED I have from mountain hardware. you can very easily layer under it. But with a base layer and this jacket on under a tight fitting gortex shell I feel much less restricted then with a fleece. It also has long arms I think i might have been able to get away with a small. I think its not cut for athletic people. I think the 'average American w/ beer guy could easily layer under this thing. I don't consider these good or bad just the way its cut.

DIY modification. With in minutes of opening the box i tried stuffing it in to its pocket. its goes in but its real tight but it was in a ball in the loose fitting pocket. The liner inside the jacket was restricting it. This problem is much more exaggerated on the womens jacket. well I cut a slit in the liner along where the zipper is. This allowed me to stuff the pocket much easier. It now fills out the whole pocket and doesn't seam over compressed. It now also looks like a NICE pillow. I do have before and after pictures if anyone is interested. also comparison pictures of how the jacket stuffs in to its pockets before and after.

cruisaire
12-17-2009, 17:30
Post 'EM if ya got 'EM! Much obliged.

Bags4266
12-17-2009, 18:22
I was at sears today. All I saw were the womens jackets. All discounted 50%. Nice jacket for $50.00. I had my 850 ll Bean jacket on so i was comparing the two. I wish I had bought this one for $50 instead! I wouldn't be too upset manhandling a $50. jacket as opposed to a $150. jacket.

tuswm
12-18-2009, 01:28
Post 'EM if ya got 'EM! Much obliged.


OK the first 3 pics show one jacket stuffed after mod next to a stuffed jacket where the jacket can not fill the stuff sack due to the restricting liner. After the mod the pocket is not a whole lot larger but I don't feel like I am over compressing the down and it makes a nice pillow. after the mod there is alot more surface area once you turn it on its side. it even looks like a small pillow. I know you cant see the other corner of the blue jacket in these pics....

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/9/7/3/3/dsc07306.jpg

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/9/7/3/3/dsc07307.jpg

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/9/7/3/3/dsc07308.jpg

The next two pics are to show the small slit i made in the liner.
http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/9/7/3/3/dsc07311.jpg

I realized this was hard to see in pics so i put paper in the slit that i cut in the liner and a beeny to see how big the slit is.
http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/1/9/7/3/3/dsc07313.jpg

Rocketman
12-18-2009, 10:01
I think you may have gotten some poorly sewn goods. Here is a picture of mine in size Large as received.

There might be some benefit to thinking about some trimming adjustments, but what I have appears to work well enough.

Hyway
12-18-2009, 10:28
I got mine a couple days ago (large) and i noticed that teh pockets are two different sizes. One was really hard to stuff it in and I didn't even try to get it all in, but the other made the nice little pillow you are talking about.

Rocketman
12-18-2009, 21:50
I got mine a couple days ago (large) and i noticed that teh pockets are two different sizes. One was really hard to stuff it in and I didn't even try to get it all in, but the other made the nice little pillow you are talking about.


Hyway Brilliantly also wrote:


http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif
<hr style="color: rgb(51, 153, 102); background-color: rgb(51, 153, 102);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Rocketman, the neighbors said the next time you check your mail with just your jacket on, could you please add some pants to the ensemble.



I bought you an age appropriate christmas gift today. A large size plastic Nuk Nuk Pacifier.

mudhead
12-19-2009, 13:45
Extra Land's End coupon. Good 12/16 thru 12/31. pm.

Reid
12-19-2009, 16:25
Looks like they are out of em on the website.

4shot
12-29-2009, 12:01
Looks like they are out of em on the website.

a PM. I got 2 for Christmas, both are the blue in size L, going to return 1 obviously. I don't have enough posts to list them on the gear for sale but I would rather send it to someone here who has a need as return it. I am pleased with this item: I am about 6',210 lbs and it's a perfect fit, even in the shoulders which is what will typically force me to an XL. Enough room to have a light layer underneath. Will ship back tomorrow if no one is interested. Mods - sorry if this post is offensive to the spirit of this board, if so can you delete this post?

bobmarley753
12-29-2009, 12:40
I got this jacket as a gift in size Medium/Blue for X-mas, and could not be more satisfied with my decision to ask for this over a similar, more expensive option.

I considered many of the similar options of lightweight down jackets before going with this one, including jackets made by LLBean, Marmot, Patagonia, Montbell, Eddie Bauer (First Ascent), among others. I read reviews online, and checked a bunch of them out in stores. In my opinion, they were ALL nice jackets, and every one of them would probably work fine as a lightweight, packable insulation layer. The only big distinguishing factor between brands that I could find was color choices: some offer more, while Lands End offers only a few (Black and Blue in mens at the time of ordering).

Comparing cost, the Lands End jacket can be obtained for $50 on sale, or for full price closer to $100. The other jackets start at ~$120 on sale, and go up to $200 for the pricier ones. In my opinion, the extra money spent on the other brands would net you very little (if any) return.

Thoughts about using the jacket:

- Construction quality appears to be good. The jacket has small elastic cuffs that work well with gloves, the zipper was easy to operate and has a wind guard behind it. The inside of the collar has a fleece type lining (grey on my blue jacket). The front panels of the jacket are "lined" with an extra layer of material, while the back panel is not.

- The fit for a size M is good for me at 6' 170lbs. The sleeves are plenty long enough to not feel restrictive when worn over a base layer and long sleeve thermal shirt. I have not noticed the stomach fit being too loose as others have mentioned, but then again, if the jacket was sized much slimmer I think they would run the risk of it being restrictive enough to compress the down in places on the majority of people - so I think they hit the sizing right on.

- I have worn the jacket outside in weather in the 20's for 4 days going to and from work. It has been quite windy the last few days, and the jacket has been better than I expected of cutting the wind, although this is not what it is really intended to do. The jacket did see some rain on X-mas, and did not appear to let any rain soak in during my back and forth from the house to the car.

- When paired with a size M Marmot Ion Windshirt, you have a very solid winter insulation/wind layer combination. The M Marmot windshirt is a bit snug over the down jacket, but not enough for me to want to move up to the size L.

These all just initial impressions, only having had the jacket for 4 days now, but IMO, you would have a hard time justifying the extra cost of any of the other brands of down jacket to me since I think the Lands End jacket is just as good as any of them.

Blissful
01-05-2010, 11:29
Got the last size in women's large in black the other day for a birthday gift at the Sears store - 50% off. Only had 2 left in that size - the weird green and black. Looking forward to using it.

Hyway
01-05-2010, 13:32
Saturday morning I took my kid to his riding lesson. It was around 30 degrees and the wind was blowing pretty stiff at the stables. I wore gloves, thermal underwear, jeans, a wicking T shirt, a knit cap, a very thin balaclava and my lands end down jacket. I was snug as a bug in a rug. it did a fair job of cutting the wind and was very warm.

flemdawg1
01-13-2010, 14:34
All the sizes appear to be back in stock. Just ordered mine $65, shipped.

flemdawg1
01-26-2010, 18:36
Tried mine out today. Spent nearly all day walking and standing outside in upper 20 temps and brisk 10-20mph winds w/ some snow showers. I was wearing a ss cotton tee, a midwieght cotton sweater, jeans, fleece mittens, a acrylic beanie, and the Snowpak jacket. Except for my legs and face, I was very comfortable. I w/ a long underwear bottom, I'd been perfect.

mister krabs
02-26-2010, 14:17
Looks like this jacket is almost gone for the season. Men's is no longer available on the lands end site, and the women's is down to 40$

se7enty
09-01-2010, 10:52
they have the women's for 39.99 right now w/ free shipping if you look for a code on google.

i just ordered a black one. they don't have any colors in small but do have several to choose from. i wish they had the blue in medium. i'll post again when it gets here.

Bags4266
09-01-2010, 11:11
My wife has one, I wish I bought one too last year. Instead I have the LL Bean 850 down. 3 or 4 times the price as the LE. BUT! I would rather have the LE for hiking because I wouldn't have to worry about ripping or damaging it due to its price.

se7enty
09-08-2010, 15:30
mine came in yesterday. i really like it. it's very lightweight. i don't have a way to weigh it though. it doesn't pack super great into it's pocket but i could probably modify it to make it fit if i felt like it. the sleeves are a little wide at the wrists, but that could probably easily be altered too (although i don't plan to). i've tried on several other down sweaters/jackets like this but since i was given actual hips and am not shaped like a stick person, none of them fit well. i'm not overweight or short or anything...but none of them fit until this one. yay!

Dogwood
09-08-2010, 15:41
If you are looking for an economically priced decntly constructed down jacket/vest you might want to check out the Eddie Bauer associated First Ascent line of down clothing.

Luddite
09-08-2010, 15:46
If you are looking for an economically priced decntly constructed down jacket/vest you might want to check out the Eddie Bauer associated First Ascent line of down clothing.

They just had a clearance sale but I think its over now. I got a down vest for 39 bucks.

Bags4266
09-08-2010, 16:13
Just went to the EB store today looking for that vest... All gone!!!!

Dogwood
09-08-2010, 16:18
I was so tempted to purchase yet another down vest/jacket at the Eddie Bauer store in Jackson WY the other day. 850 down vests, not at the very highest level of construction, but decent enough, for $25! Same level down jackets(light wt, fair amt of quality down, OK construction, etc, GREAT STARTER piece for those on a limited budget) $40!

Luddite
09-08-2010, 16:55
It is a decent vest. I'm going to stick it in my pack for an extra layer this winter. Supposedly Ed Viesturs helped design it but I'm sure they just put his name on it. Mine is kinda big on me. All they had left were large.

se7enty
09-08-2010, 18:21
i wouldn't call the first ascent stuff economically priced when not on sale. my husband did pick up a down sweater & vest on clearance though. we really like their stuff. i have some FA rain shell pants too.