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MisterSweetie
08-16-2004, 16:12
Hi everyone, I thought this shirt might be of interest here. I bought one the other day and enjoy it. I'm not affiliate with gap or anything even remotely close, so I'm telling you all only for informational purposes.

Gap has a new series of what I guess are "outdoor" tees. National Parks, that type thing. They have one for the Appalachian Trail.

http://www.gap.com/assets/product/big/ga257502-05b.jpg

I think it's cool, and I can tell you that it's comfy (because I'm wearing one right now). On sale for $13 I believe.

The website doesn't mention any proceeds going to the trail or anything, so it probably doesn't. Anyway, it's a cool shirt! Some of the others are cool, too, like the Smoke Mtns one.

eyahiker
08-16-2004, 17:16
Thanks for the heads up, keep in mind GAP's environmental record before you 'donate' your $ for a T. Sounds like exploitation to me, maybe a cool shirt, but exploitive if the AT or its supporting organizations get zip.

In 1998, the Gap's founding dynasty, the Fisher family, bought a large chunk of old-growth redwood forest -- 235,000 acres, to be exact -- in Mendocino County, just north of San Francisco. Though the family's logging company purchased the area under the pretense of "being ecologically sound," Denvir says, it's been used for what the family calls "sustainable" logging -- in reality, clear-cutting. Activists have been especially outraged by the Fishers' refusal to set aside any acreage for conservation.

In reference to their new "anarchist" line.....despite the fact that Gap makes their clothes in sweatshops, and have been subject to many demonstrations across the nation, they believe that the growing movement against corporate power is now large enough to begin marketing on. Now the protest itself can be essentially sold to consumers as an image.

However ridiculous this new marketing scheme seems at first, due to the tremendous power of corporate advertising over consumers, Gap just might pull it off, trivializing the movement against free trade, and selling jeans at the same time.

The effect that this new marketing could have on the movement is tremendous. If Gap succeeds, it will mean that every protest that is staged will be building on their new image, in effect turning protestors and activists into living, walking ads for Gap. Further, if Gap succeeds it may become a trendsetter, and other corporations might follow.

Currently, the majority of consumers are unaware of how Gap stands on "independence" and "freedom."

Gap inc. is the corporation under which Gap, Old Navy, and Banana Republic exist. All three companies have been notorious for paying sweatshop workers as little as 11 cents per hour in the third world, denying them basic health care and the right to form unions, as well as harassing, beating and forcing contraceptives on them. Sweatshop workers generally work 12-14 hour days (although sometimes 24) and can be as young as 12 years old.

Although many of Gap's clothes say "Made in USA" they are actually produced in Saipan, a US territory where normal US labor laws do not exist.

The Fisher Family that owns Gap also owns Mendocino Redwood Company, an active logging company that is deforesting the valuable redwood forests in Mendocino County, California. The Fisher family also has a notorious reputation for lobbying for privatizion of education and other public works in their home state of California.

Thanks for the idea about the shirts, nothing personal against you:D Just think we should be informed:banana

MisterSweetie
08-16-2004, 18:24
Thanks for the idea about the shirts, nothing personal against you:D Just think we should be informed No I don't take your reply personally, and I'm glad to know what you said. And don't take this personally, but I expected something to be brought up why this shirt or purchasing this shirt was bad. No big deal. Either way, I'm happily wearing my Appalachian Trail shirt. :) I do wish that some of the proceeds went to the park or Trail the shirts are about. That makes sense, but I doubt that's happening (because if it was, I imagine the gap would be blasting that loud and clear).

eyahiker
08-16-2004, 22:54
Yup.

Plain old exploitation of something that isn't trademarked:)

Lugnut
08-17-2004, 00:14
The ATC Store has plenty of nice shirts. I'll get mine there, and I would bet everyone else will too. :)

MedicineMan
08-17-2004, 00:21
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MisterSweetie
08-17-2004, 12:08
The ATC Store has plenty of nice shirts. I'll get mine there, and I would bet everyone else will too. :)
Yes, I hope everyone else will too. And for those that have them all and want one more, then here is an option for them.

MisterSweetie
08-17-2004, 12:10
sorry,not impressed
............ Not impressed with me as a person, with the Appalachian Trail, the Gap, the shirt, or what?

I'm sorry I offered people the info on a shirt they might be interested in. I'll try to keep that in mind the next time I have something trail relevant to post.

Lone Wolf
08-17-2004, 12:14
It's a fine shirt. All it lacks is a big blue blaze in the middle. :) Think I'll go buy 10 just to piss off the nay sayers.

eyahiker
08-17-2004, 12:15
It's cool, don't be upset. It's just that this it's not exactly "trail relevant'. If you spend some time with the folks here, you'll see that keeping, promoting and supporting the AT and it's relevant organizations are a priority.

Love it, hike it, support it. Gap coming out with a shirt and exploiting the name of the AT so non-hikers can wear an AT shirt ( just like any 'sport' shirt one wears to be associated with that 'sport' whether one actually participates or not) just isn't something I belive will be embraced here.:o

But thanks for the info! I'll check it out next time I'm in a mall with a Gap. Don't be discouraged, keep on posting!:D

Lugnut
08-17-2004, 14:42
Think I'll go buy 10 just to piss off the nay sayers.

Gosh, you don't have to buy 10 of them. One will do ! :D

Frosty
08-17-2004, 18:23
It's cool, don't be upset. It's just that this it's not exactly "trail relevant'. If you spend some time with the folks here, you'll see that keeping, promoting and supporting the AT and it's relevant organizations are a priority.I don't see why an AT shirt isn't relevant here. Don't get upset yourself, but it's at least as "trail relevant" as your discourse on California redwoods and third world labor, and your Luke 1:37 signature. People who live in glass houses and all that....

It's a nice shirt. Live and let live.

Lone Wolf
08-17-2004, 18:26
Yeah. FREE TIBET. *** does that mean anyway? :-?

Lilred
08-17-2004, 18:36
It's cool, don't be upset. It's just that this it's not exactly "trail relevant'. If you spend some time with the folks here, you'll see that keeping, promoting and supporting the AT and it's relevant organizations are a priority.

Love it, hike it, support it. Gap coming out with a shirt and exploiting the name of the AT so non-hikers can wear an AT shirt ( just like any 'sport' shirt one wears to be associated with that 'sport' whether one actually participates or not) just isn't something I belive will be embraced here.:o

But thanks for the info! I'll check it out next time I'm in a mall with a Gap. Don't be discouraged, keep on posting!:D


Now if it was made of Coolmax, then I'd be interested. As it is, I still owe Attroll for two shirts I hope he's still holding for me. Which, imho, are much cooler.....

Jaybird
08-17-2004, 20:11
Hi everyone, I thought this shirt might be of interest here. I bought one the other day and enjoy it. I'm not affiliate with gap or anything even remotely close, so I'm telling you all only for informational purposes. Gap has a new series of what I guess are "outdoor" tees. National Parks, that type thing. They have one for the Appalachian Trail.

photo of shirt was here!

I think it's cool, and I can tell you that it's comfy (because I'm wearing one right now). On sale for $13 I believe.blah,blah,blah,blah



SAVE YOUR $13....add a few more with it & send it to ATTROLL & get a WHITEBLAZE.NET shirt! It supports THIS CAUSE! :clap

Frosty
08-17-2004, 22:32
Yeah. FREE TIBET. *** does that mean anyway? :-?Tibet no longer has a sales tax. People drive up from as far away as Cambodia to buy tax-free booze and T-shirts.

Lone Wolf
08-17-2004, 22:41
No s**t? Tell me no! :jump

Streamweaver
08-18-2004, 18:41
Tibet no longer has a sales tax. People drive up from as far away as Cambodia to buy tax-free booze and T-shirts.

Deleware is closer!! LOL

Speaking of AT tee shirts ,Im watching a rerun of That 70s show and the one that plays hyde is wearing a shirt ,just a plain tee shirt with The AT sign on the chest .Streamweaver

Jack Tarlin
08-18-2004, 19:01
Instead of everyone getting all worked up about this, here's an alternate suggestion....

If you have a beef with the Gap, or if you think they're somehow "exploiting" the A.T., then how about contacting the company with your concerns and suggest that they consider a corporate donation to the Park Service and/or
the Appalachian Trail Conference. Many other large retailers (such as L.L. Bean) have done this and everyone involved benefits; non-profits such at the ATC get some much-needed revenue; the public benefits from new facilities, shelters, land acquisitions, etc., and the company gets some good publicity.

So instead of complaining about all the things the Gap does wrong, wouldn't it make more sense for some of you to write them a letter suggesting what they could do right?

Just an idea.....

Mountain Dew
08-19-2004, 03:13
Good post Baltimore Jack.

Remids me of a bill collection agency that kept calling my parents house for a brother of mine that didn't live there. They called at all times between 8am and 10pm it seemed. They couldn't understand why I didn't just give them his home number so I did a little research online and got the company's webite info. Once on the website I found the company's Presidents name, the vice pres. and all of the board of directors. As a backup plan I go the parent company's presidents name. After finding the city these two company's were in I called information and got ALL of their home numbers. The next time I got a call from their debt. terrorist I called the president of the company at midnight and told his wife what was going on and that if it didn't stop I was going to keep calling as well as calling the parent company's president. They NEVER called again needless to say. Point being..... contacting people on the web is an easy thing to do when you have the right motivation. Not that I recommend this in this instance or anything. Contacting people at The Gap would be very simple. Even at home ! :banana

Nightwalker
08-20-2004, 23:46
Not impressed with me as a person, with the Appalachian Trail, the Gap, the shirt, or what?

I'm sorry I offered people the info on a shirt they might be interested in. I'll try to keep that in mind the next time I have something trail relevant to post.
Don't get so upset. If you say that the sky is blue, someone here will argue with you. :)

I don't have a dog in this fight, just thought that you should know how it goes.

Frank

MisterSweetie
09-26-2004, 08:25
Price drop on these shirts, they are now $7.99 on the website, and I think $4 in the store. :cool:

Magic City
09-26-2004, 15:47
It looks like a perfectly good shirt to me. If I can get the same quality from the Gap that I can find at some PC enviro organization, I'm shopping at the Gap. If you don't think that the environmental organizations aren't themselves exploiting the political correctness that abounds here, your naivete is showing.

smokymtnsteve
09-26-2004, 16:08
Don't get so upset. If you say that the sky is blue, someone here will argue with you. :)

I don't have a dog in this fight, just thought that you should know how it goes.

Frank


your right frank,,,the sky isn't really blue,,,what you are seeing that appears blue at times is refracted light waves,,,plus sometimes the sky appears gray and not blue at all, at sunset the sky appears to be many differnet colors ;)

BlackCloud
09-29-2004, 16:19
Gap inc. is the corporation under which Gap, Old Navy, and Banana Republic exist. All three companies have been notorious for paying sweatshop workers as little as 11 cents per hour in the third world, denying them basic health care and the right to form unions, as well as harassing, beating and forcing contraceptives on them. Sweatshop workers generally work 12-14 hour days (although sometimes 24) and can be as young as 12 years old.

Although many of Gap's clothes say "Made in USA" they are actually produced in Saipan, a US territory where normal US labor laws do not exist. Forcing contraceptives on people? What is THAT about?

Denying people the RIGHT to unionize and denying people basic health care? The Constitution does not extend to Saipan, which is a U.S. Commonwealth.

And if it were illegal to put the "Made in the USA" label on the shirts, I assure you, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (legacy U.S. Customs) would be all over them.

minnesotasmith
09-29-2004, 20:25
Is the Ranger Station at Amicalola Falls State Park. They have over half a dozen types, in a wide variety of sizes (from rugrat to big beer-belly). All were well under twenty bucks, and you KNOW that's a good cause the $$ goes to. I have one I bought there, and this is what it says:

"Hike 2 Live - the journey is its own reward" (has an outline of a hiker going uphill, with a mountain range in the background)

The runner-up t-shirt on sale there IMO was one that had "Appalachian Trail" on it, plus a list of approximately 25 of the tallest mountains on the AT, and listed their altitudes.

So, if you want an AT t-shirt, there are other places to get them. I wouldn't too be surprised if L.L. Bean carries them, too...

Streamweaver
09-30-2004, 12:02
Somebody might have mentioned this already but,www.campmor.com has 2 nice looking AT shirts for a good price and 1 dollar from each goes to the AT. Streamweaver :banana :banana :banana

MisterSweetie
09-30-2004, 13:25
Awesome Streamweaver. I only found one, but I did like it.