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srestrepo
12-02-2009, 22:02
Does anyone have any input on this as a 3 season bag??? i'd like to buy it but dont really know much about Campmor... i'm sure their stuff is ok but i want to hear it from another consumer first.

Lone Wolf
12-02-2009, 22:03
Does anyone have any input on this as a 3 season bag??? i'd like to buy it but dont really know much about Campmor... i'm sure their stuff is ok but i want to hear it from another consumer first.

i own one and love it

Cookerhiker
12-02-2009, 22:37
..... but dont really know much about Campmor... i'm sure their stuff is ok but i want to hear it from another consumer first.

IMO Campmor is the best outfitter in the country. If you have the opportunity, check out their store in Paramus, NJ about 12 miles west of the GWB (up Rt. 17 a few miles). The store is closed on Sundays.

srestrepo
12-02-2009, 22:45
Thanks everyone, what about the temp rating, does anyone find it too optimistic??

does it compress well??

how does it hold up over time? any thru hikers use one?

stranger
12-02-2009, 23:05
I had this bag for a number of years, they use 550 loft down, which although not the most lofty, certainly works fine for 3 season use.

Campmor doesn't manufacture anything, like any outfitter, they contract out to established manufacturers, for example one year Moonstone made all their rain jackets, Equinox makes their rain covers, etc...Not sure who is doing their bags these days, I worked at Campmor for 9 years.

Its a good all around bag, compresses fairly well, decent hood, continuous baffles for shifting down. They use a 75/25 ratio, 75% down and 25% feather, where as manufacturers like Western Mountaineering will generally use a 90/10 split in contrast.

I now use a Western, and there is a noticable difference, but if you are not willing to spend $200 to save half a pound - this is a solid, tested bag that will work well for 3 season conditions.

The mid range Marmot bags are a great option as well, like the Sawtooth, if you're willing to drop a bit more coin.

papa john
12-02-2009, 23:37
Does anyone have any input on this as a 3 season bag??? i'd like to buy it but dont really know much about Campmor... i'm sure their stuff is ok but i want to hear it from another consumer first.

I bought one, they are well made and warm. I cannot get into mine as it is too small for me so I just use it as a quilt. I'd be willing to part with it for a reasonable price.

srestrepo
12-02-2009, 23:51
well papa john how big are you... if you dont mind me asking

papa john
12-03-2009, 00:00
well papa john how big are you... if you dont mind me asking

I am 6'1" and weigh in around 205.

garlic08
12-03-2009, 00:06
I used one on my first thru hike, the PCT. It was my first down bag, and it was a perfect bag for that hike for the price ($99 back then). Temps got down to 20 only once or twice, and I survived OK. I upgraded after the PCT and am kicking myself for waiting so long to get a good bag. But if you're not sure about spending big bucks for a bag, Campmor is a good way to go. They're also a good place to get Aqua Mira and Smartwool socks and Platypus bladders, the stuff I always go through on hikes. They have a really good glove liner, too.

XCskiNYC
12-03-2009, 00:15
I don't know if the weight is critical for you, but one reviewer has weighed the bag and found it to actually weigh 2#11 (Campmor puts it as 2#4).

http://www.trailquest.net/gear.html#downbag


Considering the fill power of the down used and the temp rating, it's not surprising that it would actually weigh more than what Campmor says. If you look at bags with similar down fill (or bags with 650-power down fill, 550, which Campmor uses in this bag, is an unusual fill rating) they usually have either more fill weight than the Campmor or, if they have a similar fill weight, they have a higher temperature rating. Campmor says the 20F down bag has 19 ozs of fill.

As an example, the North Face Kilo with 15 ozs of 650 fill has a temp rating of 30 F.

This is not to say the Campmor bag is not a good value. Just having down fill will give this bag many advantages over a bag with synthetic insulation.

srestrepo
12-03-2009, 00:34
well of course after years of going with synthetic i'mnow switching to downbut i dont want to take the plunge only to find out that:
a) i always get it wet (never been an issue, i dont pee my bags) or
b) its not as compressible as i thought it would be.

nitewalker
12-03-2009, 08:22
im not sure what your looking to spend but this is a decent deal as another option...u need to use the code---bcorp09...to get the discount...200.00 beans is not bad for this bag, 800 fill down, editors chice award must mean something. im not sure what to make with the front zip.....
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Red Beard
12-03-2009, 10:31
im not sure what your looking to spend but this is a decent deal as another option...u need to use the code---bcorp09...to get the discount...200.00 beans is not bad for this bag, 800 fill down, editors chice award must mean something. im not sure what to make with the front zip.....
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Is the discount only good when buying directly from Golite? I didn't see any Golite bags on Campmor's site. Thanks.

FritztheCat
12-03-2009, 10:58
I love mine! I find the temp rating seems to be accurate and I can compress the bag to about the size of a 2 liter bottle of soda.

sasquatch2014
12-03-2009, 11:02
I don't have the 20* but got one of the 0* from them and like what I got for the money. I have bag envy when I see folks with $500 plus bags but I look at it that I can use that extra money for other things, like food.

Tin Man
12-03-2009, 12:10
I don't have the 20* but got one of the 0* from them and like what I got for the money. I have bag envy when I see folks with $500 plus bags but I look at it that I can use that extra money for other things, like food.

I plan on ordering my zero degree from Campmor today. Tired of double-bagging, which is an option if you don't mind carrying the extra weight.

taildragger
12-03-2009, 12:25
If you're not willing to spend the big bucks on the really really nice bags, then its good to go. From what I know the temp rate is pretty good, its got decent compression and its a great price. If you have the right size pack for it and are strong enough (pounds add up) then it'd be a great bag, especially for the buck

buz
12-03-2009, 13:37
We have quite a few of these in our scout troop. My .02 on the temp rating is that it is optimistic. I think they are warm at 30, but depending on how you sleep, not enough if it is really 20 degrees. Great value bag, has continuous baffles, so you can move the down around, but not true 20 degree rating. I put 4 ounces of down in my son's, because I had it from an old jacket. Now his is for sure a 20 degree bag, conservatively.

Buy it for the value, test sleep in it if possible at cool temps to figure out.

Tin Man
12-03-2009, 13:55
We have quite a few of these in our scout troop. My .02 on the temp rating is that it is optimistic. I think they are warm at 30, but depending on how you sleep, not enough if it is really 20 degrees. Great value bag, has continuous baffles, so you can move the down around, but not true 20 degree rating. I put 4 ounces of down in my son's, because I had it from an old jacket. Now his is for sure a 20 degree bag, conservatively.

Buy it for the value, test sleep in it if possible at cool temps to figure out.

I find bag temp ratings to be somewhat arbitrary and mostly dependent on the person. For myself, I always add 10 degrees to a bag's rating which usually holds true for me. I generally recommend that others should consider the same, especially when it comes to scouts.

mister krabs
12-04-2009, 11:26
REI outlet is having a 20% off one item sale that brings their down bags down near 100$

nitewalker
12-04-2009, 11:36
Is the discount only good when buying directly from Golite? I didn't see any Golite bags on Campmor's site. Thanks.

correct. the bag is on the golite site only..u can go to the site add product to cart and see the discount. i did this with almost everything on the site. i ended up geting the 800 down jacket and the trinity pants for total of 225.00$. good luck with the bag purchase...:D

Red Beard
12-04-2009, 12:06
Yeah, turns out I'm not a tall guy. They're all out of stock on the regular sized bags. Of course, it looks like a pretty good bag, and it's cheaper than the WM I was planning on getting, so maybe there's something positive here after all.

brooklynkayak
12-04-2009, 22:43
The Campmor bags are a good value if you don't have the money for a more expensive down bag. It outperforms the synthetics that cost the same or more. BUT, it doesn't have a DWR outer shell so it will soak up any water it come in contact with.

Mongoose2
12-04-2009, 23:12
The Campmor bags are a good value if you don't have the money for a more expensive down bag. It outperforms the synthetics that cost the same or more. BUT, it doesn't have a DWR outer shell so it will soak up any water it come in contact with.

I've used the Campmor 20 for some time and in very wet conditions I have never had a problem.

srestrepo
12-04-2009, 23:16
overall would you guys say that the big is generous for space or is it fairly tight inside... i have a north face cats meow that i've used for some time and i fight in it fairly comfortably but i'm not sure how to compare that bag to this one as the measurements weren't exactly taken the same way..

Mongoose2
12-04-2009, 23:41
overall would you guys say that the big is generous for space or is it fairly tight inside... i have a north face cats meow that i've used for some time and i fight in it fairly comfortably but i'm not sure how to compare that bag to this one as the measurements weren't exactly taken the same way..

I'm 5'10 190, and it fits me fine, 20 degrees.....not so much, more like 30 but I like it. Great value!

papa john
12-05-2009, 08:59
I wish someone would buy this one from me, it's a shame to let it sit here not used!

papa john
12-05-2009, 20:54
I wish someone would buy this one from me, it's a shame to let it sit here not used!

This has been sold.

tuswm
12-08-2009, 02:44
I am looking at getting a down bag around 15 or 20*. and I only wan to spend 100 - 150 if its a nice bag on sale. what else can I get? I have never seen the campmor but I see its 119 now. I know you can get the rei down time for about the same amount but I have a down REI bag and on a scale of 1- 10 its like a 3 in comparison to my marmot bag. I see I can get a marmot saw tooth for 159 on spad out. totally worth the small difference in price. but what else is there. I have tried the kelty light year and I am not a fan of the zippers. I have also tried the laufa-falafel and the zippers were always getting stock but that was my only complaint.

So fellow gear heads, what else is there?

buz
12-08-2009, 10:36
tus

I think you have found most of the low/medium choices, maybe rei has some others. The saw tooth would be way warmer than the campmor, it has 3 ounces more down. It is not a light bag thou.

Gear is trade offs a lot of times. I don't know your age, or hiking plans for the future, but if they are long term, I would advise a spend up strategy on your bag and pack especially. These items won't wear out, and if you don't change shape, will last you 20 + years, taken care of. Well maybe not the pack if you are planning a triple crown, but I think you get my drift. Top of the line down bags are a great investment IMO. You will save weight and space in your pack, and be warm at night. The trade off is $ invested up front. Good luck

tuswm
12-08-2009, 12:30
Its for my brother. I dont want him to end up buy the same gear several times over like I did.

double d
12-08-2009, 17:37
I own the exact bag that is being discussed, it is a great bag for the money. I would suggest getting it in the 6'6 size option if your taller then 5'10", as the normal length was too short for me and I'm about 6 foot tall.

Dobie Swift
12-08-2009, 17:57
Just another opinion...

I'm 5' 8", weigh around 220 and comfortably spent last Saturday night in my Campmor 20* bag. The temperature outside was 26* F and I was in my Dukes of Hazzard Underoos. 20* woulda been no problem at all.

srestrepo
12-09-2009, 01:05
this bag just keeps getting better and better for the money it seems...

anyone have pics of this bag compressed in its bag next to a nalgene or something?

Dobie Swift
12-09-2009, 16:58
Pic 1 is the uncompressed bag in it's cotton storage sack, a 13L Sea to Summit stuff sack and a 1L Nalgene for perspective:

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/2/4/9/6/5/dscn0139_thumb.jpg (http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=38389&c=member&imageuser=24965)



Pic 2 is the uncompressed bag fully lofted, a 13L Sea to Summit waterproof stuff sack and a 1L Nalgene for perspective:

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/2/4/9/6/5/dscn0140_thumb.jpg (http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=38390&c=member&imageuser=24965)



Pic 3 is the compressed bag in a 13L Sea to Summit waterproof stuff sack and a 1L Nalgene for perspective:

http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/files/2/4/9/6/5/dscn0143_thumb.jpg (http://whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=38391&c=member&imageuser=24965)

srestrepo
12-09-2009, 22:20
hey dobie thats perfect, thanks a lot1

rynogator
12-11-2009, 10:52
I just got mine from the UPS man! Laid it out on the floor and climbed right in. Doesn't seem very "lofty" or thick. As a matter of fact, in some spots it doesn't seem to have any down filling. So, how do you properly "loft" it? Lay it out and let it do it's thing or hang it or try to fluff it up or what? I've never had a down bag... only synthetic, so this is all new to me.

mister krabs
12-11-2009, 11:21
I just got mine from the UPS man! Laid it out on the floor and climbed right in. Doesn't seem very "lofty" or thick. As a matter of fact, in some spots it doesn't seem to have any down filling. So, how do you properly "loft" it? Lay it out and let it do it's thing or hang it or try to fluff it up or what? I've never had a down bag... only synthetic, so this is all new to me.


I was impatient when I got my bag, so I put it in the tumbledryer with no heat for 5 minutes. Lofted right up.

srestrepo
12-11-2009, 11:35
I Want One!!

FritztheCat
12-11-2009, 18:45
Used mine with a silk liner last weekend. The temps got down to low 20's/upper teens and I was comfortable. This bag has been terrific!