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I made these yesterday and had not been able to do further testing.
We need to come up with a name for this new stove size. Help me out:)
It was mkmangolds idea and he furnished the material.
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jeremyduncan
02-04-2010, 22:27
I really like these stoves and I happen to have a few of those aluminum beer bottles laying abound that I still need to use. How did you make them?
I realize that has probably been discussed somewhere else, but I have searched around and cannot find anything other than a demonstration of them working.
Big Dawg
02-04-2010, 22:59
I made these yesterday and had not been able to do further testing.
We need to come up with a name for this new stove size. Help me out:)
It was mkmangolds idea and he furnished the material.
not to dis mangold.... but
aren't these still considered super stoves? therefore "Venom Super Stove" seems appropriate. How much do you think the slightly wider design will change efficiency, etc.? I wouldn't think much if any.
Big Dawg
02-04-2010, 23:01
btw... any Black Mamba's?
mkmangold
02-05-2010, 01:34
not to dis mangold.... but
aren't these still considered super stoves? therefore "Venom Super Stove" seems appropriate. How much do you think the slightly wider design will change efficiency, etc.? I wouldn't think much if any.
ok, so how's 'bout "Mangold SuperStoves?" Just sayin'!
iamscottym
02-05-2010, 09:01
On a related note, I found a source for cheap aluminum bottles in various sizes.
http://www.specialtybottle.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=394
Big Dawg
02-05-2010, 09:09
ok, so how's 'bout "Mangold SuperStoves?" Just sayin'!
:D:D:D
okokok,,,, but I think Venom should be in there somewhere.... so how bout "Mangold Venom SS"?
RollingStone
02-05-2010, 15:55
I really like these stoves and I happen to have a few of those aluminum beer bottles laying abound that I still need to use. How did you make them?
I realize that has probably been discussed somewhere else, but I have searched around and cannot find anything other than a demonstration of them working.
Basically the bottle is inverted through the use of a die and a press, or a die and lathe. There are several ways to do it.
As much as I hate to say this, he sells his stuff cheap enough that unless you already have a shop with these things in it, just buy one from em and be done. If you have your own tools, get out there and play around.
Thank you everyone for your replies.
I had the thought of keeping the name inline with the already established theme of "snakes" The 3 different bottles that I've made into stoves have names like: "Black Mamba", "Killer Taipan" and "Mojave Rattler"
Many of us are familiar with the "Timber Rattler" snake.
How about "MKTimber Rattler" - "Mangold Rattler" - "Mangold SS" - "Mangold Mamba"
I think it best to keep the name Super Stove away from this stove. Reason being.........confusion in ordering a stove.
I have to get back to my testing:o
I need to get you some numbers and facts.
Big Dawg
02-05-2010, 17:19
Zelph... how much for these stoves?
mister krabs
02-05-2010, 18:10
Zelph, the mouth of the venom bottles are thick walled, does the thickness taper off at the neck, or is the whole bottle that thick?
Zelph... how much for these stoves?
Don't know yet.....would you believe 2 bottles cost me $4.98,,,gulp!!!! at the local Mobil gas station. The only place I've found it for sale.:rolleyes:
mister krabs, the thickness tapers off to .017 thick. Mountain dew measures in at .016
My wife came home early and was not able to do optimum condition testing. I did a few in the garage but it's way to humid out there today. Condensation coming off the pot like crazy hindering the tests. Garage temp and water were at 30 degrees.
Stove holds 1 ounce of fuel. My die also works well with "Snapple" energy drink bottles. I formed one with the die. I have about a dozen bottles that I will make into Cobalt stoves that will have a fuel capacity of 4 ounces of fuel. Some folks might think on that. We see threads that indicate the only way to cook for 2 is with canister stoves. The new Cobalt will have the larger diameter base and a feature that will make it totally resistant to pots of cold water being placed on it. When I get a good source of Venom bottles I'll make the new Cobalt with those also. New things on the horizon. Why make a Cobalt with the new size bottles????? Larger footprint for stability, more fuel capacity for "cooking for two", melting snow for bath water:cool: there are folks out there that like flaming jets:)
mkmangold
02-06-2010, 01:40
Thank you everyone for your replies.How about "MKTimber Rattler" - "Mangold Rattler" - "Mangold SS" - "Mangold Mamba"
It's too funny cuz I'm totally humbled by all of this! I like "Mangold Mamba" the best.
Now, let's work on getting some of them off to Haiti to sterilize water and cook food. Zelph: as soon as you have 5 done, I'll buy them and get them over there and pay for postage. Anyone willing to match me on this?
Toolshed
02-06-2010, 08:19
BTW, did you see the tins (http://www.specialtybottle.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=25) they had for sale for less than a dollar? Perhaps a new source of greasepot like pots with lids?
mkmangold (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/member.php?u=13871) , "Mangold Mamba" let it be written, let it be done!!!!!:)
I should have some available by early next week for shipping.
What fuel is available in Haiti?
I'll buy them and get them over there and pay for postage. Anyone willing to match me on this?
Count me in....I'll donate 5 bud "Super Stoves" they're ready to go. I'll put them in the mail today.
Toolshed, those tins are too small and will rust.
mkmangold
02-07-2010, 00:19
What fuel is available in Haiti? Count me in....I'll donate 5 bud "Super Stoves" they're ready to go. I'll put them in the mail today.
Zelph: thanks so much. The most prevalent fuel is ethanol. The stoves will be going with my mom's church group. When, I don't know yet. Anyone else want to donate stoves, let Zelph know. I'll be headed down to Illinois to do an "in-service" to the church members when I get them.
Zelph: thanks so much. The most prevalent fuel is ethanol. The stoves will be going with my mom's church group. When, I don't know yet. Anyone else want to donate stoves, let Zelph know. I'll be headed down to Illinois to do an "in-service" to the church members when I get them.
Let me know when you head on down, we can meet up somewhere and shoot the breeze.
I have your 5 Mangold Mamba's and 5 Super Stoves shipping out today.
I have an extra 4 Mamba available if anyone wants one @ $17.50 FREE shipping. (barebones)
Big Dawg
02-09-2010, 19:31
I have an extra 4 Mamba available if anyone wants one @ $17.50 FREE shipping. (barebones)
You know I want one!!! Money already sent!!
You know I want one!!! Money already sent!!
I saved one for you and will ship today.:)
cruisaire
02-28-2010, 19:42
A simply SUPERB stove.....bar none! Zelph, you've done it again!!!! Easy to use, no waiting, lights fast.
A simply SUPERB stove.....bar none! Zelph, you've done it again!!!! Easy to use, no waiting, lights fast.
Thank you for the kind words "cruisaire".
I should be getting a listing up on ebay this week. I have a batch made up and are ready to go.:)
mkmangold
02-28-2010, 23:07
A simply SUPERB stove.....bar none! Zelph, you've done it again!!!! Easy to use, no waiting, lights fast.
And a killer name!
cruisaire
03-03-2010, 22:20
Yes, the name is cool too!
Hey all, I'm expecting a shipment of Black Mamba bottles to arrive tomorrow, lots and lots of them. My savings will be extended to you. Cost for 1 stove is $10.00 + $3.00 shipping. This is a super good deal, don't miss out on it, send me a pm if you want one. The season is fast coming upon us.
Zelph, convince me why I should retire my beloved StarLyte and purchase a Mamba.
PS, I am easy to convince
Zelph, convince me why I should retire my beloved StarLyte and purchase a Mamba.
PS, I am easy to convince
Don't retire the StarLyte, alternate with the Mangold Mamba....it fits inside the Mamba:).....both have the fuel absorbing feature;)
Take it along and let a neighbor use it. You know! the ones that use canister stoves and can't get them to work. Or the ones that chose to use wood and it's raining.
Is the Mamba the same as the bud stove, if not, what is the difference and performance. I saw where u had a few left for sale and would like to buy one at $13. Where do I send the money if it is basically the same as the bud stove.
thanks
Is the Mamba the same as the bud stove, if not, what is the difference and performance. I saw where u had a few left for sale and would like to buy one at $13. Where do I send the money if it is basically the same as the bud stove.
thanks
Yes, same design as the original budlyte super stove just a larger diameter bottle and is .001 thicker aluminum than the Mountain Dew bottle.
PM me for paypal and money order info. Thank you Loneoak
I just bumped this thread up here as a reminder that the stoves I have on sale originated here as a DIY stove.
So the design came about in the year 2010.:)
Damn Yankee
05-25-2014, 13:27
mkmangold (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/member.php?u=13871) , "Mangold Mamba" let it be written, let it be done!!!!!:)
I should have some available by early next week for shipping.
What fuel is available in Haiti?
Count me in....I'll donate 5 bud "Super Stoves" they're ready to go. I'll put them in the mail today.
Toolshed, those tins are too small and will rust.
I have been to Haiti a number of times to help and they don't use electricity. We have brought many solar lights. The stoves they use are fueled with the tons of cardboard. We have however developed solar ovens. I'm not sure if alcohol stoves would work there but, it's a good thought.
I have been to Haiti a number of times to help and they don't use electricity. We have brought many solar lights. The stoves they use are fueled with the tons of cardboard. We have however developed solar ovens. I'm not sure if alcohol stoves would work there but, it's a good thought.
Thank you for your service there. Such a devastating natural disaster to have happened, so sad.
This type of wick stove will burn isopropl91 alcohol very well. It will leave some soot on the bottom of the pot but a lot less than cardboard. If iso91 is available there I will donate 2 dozen stoves to be shipped there or to your address for when you return.
Thanks again for your service.:)
Mangold Mamba also known as Venom Super Stove :-)
I made a small modification to it, made it fit perfect into the recessed bottom of a Foster's pot. Really makes for a stable fit and centers the pot precisely.
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That is what I like about the Fancee Feest and the 1-cup: the 1-cup doesn't slide around.
It doesn't "snap" in place, like this Venom stove and your Ridgeline Foster's can.
I can see why people woukd like it.
Someone had sent me an eamil and said he liked how the pot snapped onto the stove, told him I'd check on it and one thing led to another and this is what I came up with. Watch this video starting at 3:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=TiZq8MHbgUc
Hey Zelph---that was me that emailed ya about the snap on pot----is it too late to add to my order?
also---in the beer can style pots---do you cook in it (like noodles or something) or just use it for boiling water?
thanks....
Hey Zelph---that was me that emailed ya about the snap on pot----is it too late to add to my order?
also---in the beer can style pots---do you cook in it (like noodles or something) or just use it for boiling water?
thanks....
Small world :-)
If I shipped your order I'll send out another one. No Charge since you were the inspiration :-)
I cook Ramen noodles in my fosters and conquistadors. I then boil 2 cups of water in them to clean them and make a hot drink with the flavored water ;-)
Why thank you Zelph.....
please make sure your address is somewhere and ill send ya a thank you gift....
To me---when I watched the video for the first time--when I saw how the pot snapped onto stove---it made me think that this is the alcohol version of a jet boil.....
plus I dug it cause right now--the pot I'm using for my stove (pocket rocket) has a tendency to slip off......
im pumped to try it out and will give a report on how it works for me.....
To me---when I watched the video for the first time--when I saw how the pot snapped onto stove---it made me think that this is the alcohol version of a jet boil.....
plus I dug it cause right now--the pot I'm using for my stove (pocket rocket) has a tendency to slip off......
im pumped to try it out and will give a report on how it works for me.....
It's going t work well for you.
Look at this thread, shows how to roast fish fillets....hot dogs using the Venom stove
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/91752-Roasting-Hot-Dogs-in-the-vertical-position?highlight=hot+dogs
To me---when I watched the video for the first time--when I saw how the pot snapped onto stove---it made me think that this is the alcohol version of a jet boil.....
plus I dug it cause right now--the pot I'm using for my stove (pocket rocket) has a tendency to slip off......
im pumped to try it out and will give a report on how it works for me.....
I sent a new one out yesterday to you along with a Heineken pot.
I just finished another batch of the Venom Super Stove. Takes a while to get enough bottles to do so :)
http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/super-stove.php
I have more of these available in short supply. The aluminum bottles are hard to come by.
http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/super-stove.php
just ordered one dan to be delivered to alpharetta.
ScareBear
02-20-2017, 08:27
I have more of these available in short supply. The aluminum bottles are hard to come by.
http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/super-stove.php
Sweet! Are the 10cm IMUSA lids in stock? Do you have any for the 1.25quart IMUSA?
Does the 10cm lid fit olicamp space saver mug ? It's 3 7/8" outside to outside 3 11/16 inside to inside
thom
The lids were made for the Imusa 10cm mug. I'm not aware of any other pot that they might fit. I don't have any other sizes.
I only have 4 lids left. That equates to 2 orders remaining in stock. I may have more when I return home in the spring.
Post office is closed today...Happy Presidents Day :-)
There are videos on youtube that show how to turn the aluminum bottles inside out to make the Venom Super Stove. The stove is unique and was created right here on Whitblaze when stovies were abundant :-) The stove is one piece, comes with a 4oz. capacity fuel bottle with turret style dispense cap (cap fits yellow HEET bottle $3.00 value) This stove is a collectors item ;-)
ScareBear
02-20-2017, 12:03
The lids were made for the Imusa 10cm mug. I'm not aware of any other pot that they might fit. I don't have any other sizes.
I only have 4 lids left. That equates to 2 orders remaining in stock. I may have more when I return home in the spring.
Post office is closed today...Happy Presidents Day :-)
There are videos on youtube that show how to turn the aluminum bottles inside out to make the Venom Super Stove. The stove is unique and was created right here on Whitblaze when stovies were abundant :-) The stove is one piece, comes with a 4oz. capacity fuel bottle with turret style dispense cap (cap fits yellow HEET bottle $3.00 value) This stove is a collectors item ;-)
Lids ordered!!
Thanks Dan!
mkmangold
11-21-2017, 11:34
I can no longer find the original Venom cans that had the thicker wall. Now Venom comes in regular flimsy aluminum. I had several boxes of the old ones ready for you Zelph before the divorce but yes, I lost those too!
If anyone knows of another non-alcoholic drink that comes in the thick-walled cans, please let me know. This stove is one of the best ever.
I can no longer find the original Venom cans that had the thicker wall. Now Venom comes in regular flimsy aluminum. I had several boxes of the old ones ready for you Zelph before the divorce but yes, I lost those too!
If anyone knows of another non-alcoholic drink that comes in the thick-walled cans, please let me know. This stove is one of the best ever.
Thanks for keeping me in mind on the bottles. They sure are hard to come by. I have 50+ stoves in process but I'm away from home for the winter months. I'l make the stoves available again in the spring of 2018.
I used a lot of the bottles in the making of the Mega Starlyte Burner aka Companion Burner. It;s great for winter use when dry wood is not available for melting snow for water. Comes with a lid to save unused fuel.
http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/mega-starlyte-burner-with-lid.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiPp2ZvL3h8
DIY stove era was a fun time here on WB. Life seems to get in the way of fun times but time passes and now I'm back into designing and having fun again. :-) The Starlyte XL3 burner design is coming along nicely.
Once the Mangold Super Stoves are back in stock, I'll revive this thread. I'm down south for the winter months at a Recreation Area volunteering for the US Army Corps of Engineers. Outdoor stove testing coming up this week while steaming shrimp(side dish) for Thanksgiving Dinner.
mkmangold contacted me yesterday and brought back memories of this stove creation.
Designing stoves has been a fun ride over the years. This year will be my last producing Starlyte Stoves and burners. The Fancee Feest will remain forever:D