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Anyone do the Culver's Gap section of the trail?
Of course!
heh. Well, I guess I meant as a section as opposed to a part of the thru.
Doesn't it all seem a blur by the time you get to NJ, anyway? :-?
jfarrell04
08-09-2010, 14:34
We'll be starting our next section hike this fall at Culvers Gap!
We'll be starting our next section hike this fall at Culvers Gap!
Really, when? Have you done it before?? Difficulty?
jersey joe
08-09-2010, 15:06
I hiked from DWG to High Point a few weeks ago. Culvers Gap is a great area. There is a firetower about two miles north and a great view of a grassy ridge south. The climb out of the gap isn't too bad.
Are you going for a day hike or a backpacking trip?
I hiked from DWG to High Point a few weeks ago. Culvers Gap is a great area. There is a firetower about two miles north and a great view of a grassy ridge south. The climb out of the gap isn't too bad.
Are you going for a day hike or a backpacking trip?
Day hike!
If I am not mistaken, it's about 10 miles one way?
Day hike!
If I am not mistaken, it's about 10 miles one way?
From Culvers Gap to where?
Toolshed
08-09-2010, 20:26
Day hike!
If I am not mistaken, it's about 10 miles one way?
Do you mean from CG to Deckertown Turnpike? Very easy section. very easy. If you are headed SB from CG it is only 4 miles to Brinks road shelter (and the road out) or another 4-5 over Rattlesnake Mountain to Crater lake Parking area.
There is a section of the AT closed south of Culver's Gap; close to rt 80 due to a forest fire. So...make sure your dayhike is northbound. I usually hit the Culver's Gap to Sunrise Pavillion section, and back, as my day hike. It is an easy climb from the gap to the first overlook of the area you just climbed and some of the lake below. Then it is a walk in the woods along a ridgeline all the way to the pavillion. About every two miles there is a nice place to stop (fire tower with picnic bench, shelter with same and a spring, pine forest patch, pavillion with a privy at the parking area).
Have fun.
Simba
There is a section of the AT closed south of Culver's Gap; close to rt 80 due to a forest fire. So...make sure your dayhike is northbound. I usually hit the Culver's Gap to Sunrise Pavillion section, and back, as my day hike. It is an easy climb from the gap to the first overlook of the area you just climbed and some of the lake below. Then it is a walk in the woods along a ridgeline all the way to the pavillion. About every two miles there is a nice place to stop (fire tower with picnic bench, shelter with same and a spring, pine forest patch, pavillion with a privy at the parking area).
Have fun.
Simba
Sounds perfect!! I was planning on the northbound route on this stretch. Thank you very much for the info!!!
I am driving in from Staten Island, is it hard to find the trailhead?
jersey joe
08-10-2010, 13:26
The trail is pretty easy to find, just look for the deli "Joe-To-Go" on 206.
Here is a link to what you want to look for...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=joe+to+go&sll=41.314434,-74.806595&sspn=0.07014,0.139732&ie=UTF8&hq=joe+to+go&hnear=&ll=41.218436,-74.796295&spn=0,0.139732&z=13&layer=c&cbll=41.177219,-74.791424&panoid=s8x9lZAqXmi8cSRJQ8pi6g&cbp=12,224.15,,0,5.22
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The trail is pretty easy to find, just look for the deli "Joe-To-Go" on 206.
Here is a link to what you want to look for...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=joe+to+go&sll=41.314434,-74.806595&sspn=0.07014,0.139732&ie=UTF8&hq=joe+to+go&hnear=&ll=41.218436,-74.796295&spn=0,0.139732&z=13&layer=c&cbll=41.177219,-74.791424&panoid=s8x9lZAqXmi8cSRJQ8pi6g&cbp=12,224.15,,0,5.22
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Thanks Joe!! (Is that your coffee shop??) I hope not, because there were some bad reviews on Google.....???
jersey joe
08-10-2010, 14:03
Thanks Joe!! (Is that your coffee shop??) I hope not, because there were some bad reviews on Google.....???
haha, no, it isn't my coffee shop. I find that seeing the street view helps when you arrive there, it's like you have been there before.
When I passed through a couple weeks ago I didn't stop in joe-to-go but my brother went in and asked the guy if he could throw out some trash in his dumpster out back and the guy said no. Not a big deal i guess, but consistent with the sub-par reviews.
haha, no, it isn't my coffee shop. I find that seeing the street view helps when you arrive there, it's like you have been there before.
When I passed through a couple weeks ago I didn't stop in joe-to-go but my brother went in and asked the guy if he could throw out some trash in his dumpster out back and the guy said no. Not a big deal i guess, but consistent with the sub-par reviews.
Then again, maybe the owner didn't know your brother, and was afraid maybe he was going to stash his guns or grenades, or giant stash of ludes....But still, online review databases are a wonderful thing!
Thamnk you again for your help on this ;)
joe to go....cash only!no free water fill up.not too much charm either!but he does make a good taylor ham sandwich.be prepared to eat it outside!
MedicineMan
08-10-2010, 23:47
and i spent 30 min's talking shop/politics/hiking/his kids with joe-to-go...must depend on his mood, and the sandwhich he sold me was over the top.
joe to go....cash only!no free water fill up.not too much charm either!but he does make a good taylor ham sandwich.be prepared to eat it outside!
They make you eat outside???
Maybe it's the hiker funk...
and i spent 30 min's talking shop/politics/hiking/his kids with joe-to-go...must depend on his mood, and the sandwhich he sold me was over the top.
Hmm...people are strange...He must have seen hundreds of hikers come through there....
General Fireball
08-11-2010, 09:42
haha, no, it isn't my coffee shop. I find that seeing the street view helps when you arrive there, it's like you have been there before.
When I passed through a couple weeks ago I didn't stop in joe-to-go but my brother went in and asked the guy if he could throw out some trash in his dumpster out back and the guy said no. Not a big deal i guess, but consistent with the sub-par reviews.
Off topic, I know, but I sympathize with the business owner. My family owns a business, too, and trash and recycling pickup runs over $4K a year. Not letting your brother dump a couple of bags of garbage may seem petty, but if he lets you do it, what does he say to the next person? and the next? (and believe me, people ask all the time). Pretty soon your business is the free community trash disposal service, and there's no room for your own garbage. Not to mention all the people that DO dump their garbage without asking, and don't bother to lock the lid on the dumpster (here deep in bear country) with the result that we have a huge bear clean up mess the next day. . .
Off topic, I know, but I sympathize with the business owner. My family owns a business, too, and trash and recycling pickup runs over $4K a year. Not letting your brother dump a couple of bags of garbage may seem petty, but if he lets you do it, what does he say to the next person? and the next? (and believe me, people ask all the time). Pretty soon your business is the free community trash disposal service, and there's no room for your own garbage. Not to mention all the people that DO dump their garbage without asking, and don't bother to lock the lid on the dumpster (here deep in bear country) with the result that we have a huge bear clean up mess the next day. . .
I, persoanlly, would rather have someone politely request to dump their garbage in my dumpster rather than throw it somewhere in the bushes, and me have to clean up after them later.
General Fireball
08-11-2010, 10:23
Personally, I suspect that anyone who would be inconsiderate enough to dump their trash in the bushes would likewise not be considerate enough to "ask politely" to use my dumpster. In any case, no business is obliged to provide free trash disposal to the general public; and if the public chooses to break the law by dumping, it's on their own head. I should add that our business has a public trash can out front, and if it can fit in there, the public is welcome to stuff it in. But if it's so big it has to go in the dumpster . . . please, take it home and put it out with your own trash.
Enjoy your hike at the Culver's Gap--it is a very nice stretch of trail . . . .
jersey joe
08-11-2010, 10:50
Off topic, I know, but I sympathize with the business owner. My family owns a business, too, and trash and recycling pickup runs over $4K a year. Not letting your brother dump a couple of bags of garbage may seem petty, but if he lets you do it, what does he say to the next person? and the next? (and believe me, people ask all the time). Pretty soon your business is the free community trash disposal service, and there's no room for your own garbage. Not to mention all the people that DO dump their garbage without asking, and don't bother to lock the lid on the dumpster (here deep in bear country) with the result that we have a huge bear clean up mess the next day. . .
All good points Fireball...I didn't EXPECT that the owner would take the garbage, that's why we asked him. My brother said, thanks anyway and asked the next business owner up the street, who said yes. It was a small bag of garbage that we were hiking with, just trying to get rid of it. Really no big deal.
All good points Fireball...I didn't EXPECT that the owner would take the garbage, that's why we asked him. My brother said, thanks anyway and asked the next business owner up the street, who said yes. It was a small bag of garbage that we were hiking with, just trying to get rid of it. Really no big deal.
Anyway, it's not the worst thing in the world. The guy sounds positively loopy anyway.
Buzz_Lightfoot
08-11-2010, 13:23
Anyway, it's not the worst thing in the world. The guy sounds positively loopy anyway.
The sad thing is this business is in what used to be Worthington's Bakery. It was absolute hiker heaven. :) I sure was sad to see the bakery go. :mad:
The first place I ever backpacked was the At from Culver's gap.
BL
The sad thing is this business is in what used to be Worthington's Bakery. It was absolute hiker heaven. :) I sure was sad to see the bakery go. :mad:
The first place I ever backpacked was the At from Culver's gap.
BL
What a tragedy!!!
There is a place in the catskills near a trail that sells freshly baked bread with dried fruit in it, and chocolate milk. I go there every time I'm in that area! Too bad ol' Joe doeesn't "get it".
jersey joe
08-11-2010, 13:51
My guess is that the hiker population makes up a very small proportion of his total business...and likely makes up a very large proportion of his headaches.
General Fireball
08-11-2010, 14:20
The Worthington Bakery was indeed a landmark for thruhikers back in the day. . . though toward the end it was only open a few days a week. Since it closed, it seems like no business has been able to make it there for long. And yes, while thruhikers should in theory give him a lot of business, which he should encourage and for which he should be grateful, it may only take that one or two percent of them with the attitude of holy entitlement to make a struggling small business owner not care if they keep on walkin' . . .
My guess is that the hiker population makes up a very small proportion of his total business...and likely makes up a very large proportion of his headaches.
Yah, well I guess you're right about that. But - to me it seems like an awesome business idea. :)
The Worthington Bakery was indeed a landmark for thruhikers back in the day. . . though toward the end it was only open a few days a week. Since it closed, it seems like no business has been able to make it there for long. And yes, while thruhikers should in theory give him a lot of business, which he should encourage and for which he should be grateful, it may only take that one or two percent of them with the attitude of holy entitlement to make a struggling small business owner not care if they keep on walkin' . . .
Oh well, all good things must come to an end I suppose.
Buzz_Lightfoot
08-12-2010, 13:01
My guess is that the hiker population makes up a very small proportion of his total business...and likely makes up a very large proportion of his headaches.
Naw, he's always been anti-hiker. I read many times in different TJ entries how hikers were turned away or treated poorly.
I pass that place twice daily going to/from work. I'll never give them my business.
BL
Buzz_Lightfoot
08-12-2010, 13:03
The Worthington Bakery was indeed a landmark for thruhikers back in the day. . . though toward the end it was only open a few days a week. Since it closed, it seems like no business has been able to make it there for long. And yes, while thruhikers should in theory give him a lot of business, which he should encourage and for which he should be grateful, it may only take that one or two percent of them with the attitude of holy entitlement to make a struggling small business owner not care if they keep on walkin' . . .
It's a real shame. The lady got too old to run it any more. Boy I rememver devouring fresh apple turnovers from there. It was pure joy! :sun
BL
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