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Megapixel
08-31-2010, 19:13
So, if it was comfy for you, would you consider carrying a chair weighing 15 oz. that packs rather small on a thru hike?
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I'd consider it, yes. I'd probably even take it on a section hike. I doubt it would last for a thru, simply because there would be days when I wouldn't use it, and would deem it extraneous, and either bounce it ahead or ditch it entirely.
I have a chair that packs small, slings low, and runs about 18 oz without the cool stuff sack. I have a stool that is actually pretty solid at 20 oz. and swivels. Can't sleep in either one without falling off. A hammock however....
HYOH, sleeping or standing.
Ranc0r
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kayak karl
08-31-2010, 19:58
So, if it was comfy for you, would you consider carrying a chair weighing 15 oz. that packs rather small on a thru hike?
can carry a hammock at 7oz. switch out suspension and its 6oz
http://www.bargainoutfitters.com/net/cb/ultralight-hammock-green.aspx?a=71716
Mountain Wildman
08-31-2010, 19:59
I would because I don't like sitting on the ground or hard rocks.
I have one now that weighs 19 ounces but I am already thinking about not carrying it. 15 oz. is better but a few ounces would be definite.
No. I already have a 3-foot long z-rest that I can put on the ground and lean up against a tree. The z-rest is optional, the trees are plentiful.
bigcranky
08-31-2010, 21:15
I have a 1 ounce piece of closed cell foam that I can sit on, and it does double duty under my feet (inside the bag) on cold nights for a little more insulation. Plus it adds some stiffness to my pack.
3 oz... If you see me wearing a pack you can bet this is in it.
http://www.rei.com/product/780983
Personally, I wouldn't. I'm trying to lighten my pack as it is. I cut open a tyvek mailing envelope and use that to sit on.
Megapixel
08-31-2010, 22:15
can carry a hammock at 7oz. switch out suspension and its 6oz
http://www.bargainoutfitters.com/net/cb/ultralight-hammock-green.aspx?a=71716
3 oz... If you see me wearing a pack you can bet this is in it.
http://www.rei.com/product/780983
I want the chair more for the back than to lay down or just to sit. It seems there is nothing better than a back rest after 15 miles, except maybe a beer.
4eyedbuzzard
08-31-2010, 22:21
15 oz, no. 6 oz, yes. Big Agnes makes a cyclone chair kit that weighs 6 oz. and uses your sleeping pad. Works with any 20" inflatable or foam pad.
http://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Accessory/CycloneSLChairKit
ChinMusic
08-31-2010, 22:52
For weekend/section trips I often take a Slinglight chair. That is me at Glacier: http://www.slinglight.com/photo%27s.htm
I wouldn't take it on the AT. There are many places to sit around shelters to make it totally unnecessary. I would take a small sit-pad to keep my butt dry.
A lightweight chair would be nice at times.
BigFoot2002
08-31-2010, 23:19
A lightweight chair would be nice at times when you are sitting in it, but not at times when you are carrying it.
Jonnycat
09-01-2010, 08:54
Nature provides enough chair structures for me to camp my ass on. Wet ground does provide a challenge, though; I like tlap's suggestion for dealing with that.
i bought one of those 2 legged butterfly chairs at rei w/ a gift card recently http://www.rei.com/product/792007. it's 18 oz and i'd consider taking it on sections, esp since i've drastically reduced my sleeping setup. one thing i didn't think about my first trip out was seating. i really really wished i had somewhere to sit that wasn't on the ground/in the tent.
that chair is a little expensive to me, but if they could make an ultralight version i'd gladly pay more. it's very comfy to me and the slight rocking you can do in it makes it really nice. for my brother who is 6'2" and medium/average build, the top corners cut into his back under his shoulders. it fits me (5'5" woman) & my husband (5'10") very well.
forgot to mention, the fact that it only has 2 feet makes it ideal for uneven ground.
If you can lean back, yes.
Sitting is one thing while doing long hikes, but being able to lean (and not on a tree or rock) is priceless.
Windcatcher
09-03-2010, 19:54
I hike with a tripod chair quite a bit, though it weighs more, about 20 oz., and doesn't have back support. Works great to take off & put on boots, cook over the camp stove, sit beside a campfire, avoid wet rocks, trees, ground....not sure I will thru-hike with it though due to the weight.
WalkingStick75
09-04-2010, 13:19
Why do you care what others think? Carry it if you enjoy it and don't mind an extra pound.
that butterfly chair lets you lean back and rock. i sit in a lazyboy type rocking chair at home all the time, so the fact that the butterfly chair rocks is one of the main reasons i bought it. :D
topshelf
09-06-2010, 21:22
You don't(well at least I don't) sit around enough to carry a new seat, there are plenty of logs, edge of shelters, picnic tables, trees to lean against. Some have said it, sit on your sleeping pad. Don't just use it as a cushion to sleep on, that's not smart. Most items should have multiple uses if possible, thats how you save weight, and if you are questioning I imagine you want to save weight.
ChinMusic
09-06-2010, 21:32
Some of the most miserable times I have had on the trail has been the evenings around the campfire where I just can't get comfortable sitting. My back would just kill me. I would end up heading to my tent early and miss out on some of the socializing. For weekend trips where the miles are not too great, and the campfire will be long, I bring a chair.
For the AT with all its shelters, tables, I do not bring it. Most of the fire rings have logs for sitting that others have dragged over many moons ago.
Sassafras Lass
09-07-2010, 11:30
Nope.
My chair is my Z-lite pad.
Johnny Thunder
09-08-2010, 20:51
i'm more interested in a major pack manufacturer attaching a padded flap to the lower end of their pack body which could flip around and make the pack into a camp chair.
would i carry a separate camp chair? no
but i would carry a backpack that came with a camp seat attached.
i'm more interested in a major pack manufacturer attaching a padded flap to the lower end of their pack body which could flip around and make the pack into a camp chair.
Luxurylite
I sometimes carry a crazy creek 15 oz chair for the ground, campmor had them on sale this summer for 10 bucks a piece. roll them up and tie to pack. I hate to use my pad to put inside a chair similar as might poke a hole in it eventually...these are great for the back. go to campmore and check out.
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___41285
Shadowmoss
09-08-2010, 22:54
Jerry, over at HammockForums.net figured out how to make a chair that uses his hiking poles and a sit pad with some fabric to make a nice chair that you can lean back in. Others have taken the idea,and made the fabric do double and triple duty as a pack cover and such. Here is the original thread:
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11672&highlight=Jerry+Chair
Jerry, over at HammockForums.net figured out how to make a chair that uses his hiking poles and a sit pad with some fabric to make a nice chair that you can lean back in. Others have taken the idea,and made the fabric do double and triple duty as a pack cover and such. Here is the original thread:
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11672&highlight=Jerry+Chair
Link doesn't work for me.
Shadowmoss
09-09-2010, 00:04
#*&% they put it in the Donating Members Only area. Sorry. I know no way to get a link for you since it isn't about hammocks and the moderators decided anything non-hammock is 'off topic'. I'll try a link to a picture of it.
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=7452&c=newimages&cutoffdate=1]http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/3/9/4/7/jerrychairseated2_thumb.jpg
Shadowmoss
09-09-2010, 00:08
You can go to the hammockforums.net gallery and search for JerryChair and find the pictures. Try this link:
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/browseimages.php?do=searchresults&searchid=52118
The gallery thing works. Thanks. That chair is kind of what I already do by propping up my pack with a trekking pole. I'd really love a superlight chair that gets me off the ground and also allowed me to lean back. I miss the days when I could pack a folding chair and not suffer for it.
lustreking
09-09-2010, 15:27
I've been meaning to make a Jerry Chair for a while now. Hopefully I'll have time to bodge one together tonight for my trip this weekend.
lustreking
09-09-2010, 22:10
Finished the Jerry Chair. I used some $1.50 Walmart digital camo coated ripstop that seems to weigh around 2.2oz/yd. It came out to 2.17 oz without the sit pad. It seems pretty comfy, and I can't wait to use it this weekend. I'll try to take some pictures then, because it's too dark now.
topshelf
09-09-2010, 22:20
I did see a guy who had an attachment on his full length sleeping pad, it looked something like what's in the attached link but was part of his pad. Just had to hook up the straps and clips and he was good to go. He also used it to sleep at night because of his acid reflux http://www.rei.com/product/763954?preferredSku=7639540017&cm_mmc=cse_froogle-_-datafeed-_-product-_-7639540017&mr:trackingCode=38894FFE-FB85-DE11-B7F3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA
(http://www.rei.com/product/763954?preferredSku=7639540017&cm_mmc=cse_froogle-_-datafeed-_-product-_-7639540017&mr:trackingCode=38894FFE-FB85-DE11-B7F3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA)
topshelf
09-09-2010, 22:21
but I suppose it is what you all were talking about earlier
4eyedbuzzard
09-09-2010, 22:31
but I suppose it is what you all were talking about earlier
That's the one I have. Weighs about 5 ounces on my scale. I'm not comptemplating thru-hiking, but it wouldn't be out of the question to take it at that weight. Definitely an expendable "luxury item" though.
I usually put my hiking stick through the front openings under the legs to keep it from pulling in against my legs when reclining in it, which is its biggest design flaw in my experience. It's quite comfortable with an inflatable (BA or Neo or Thermarest) , a little less so with a closed cell but still better than ground, logs, or trees. Rolls up really small, and you can leave an inflatable pad in it.
Megapixel
09-09-2010, 22:58
Why do you care what others think? Carry it if you enjoy it and don't mind an extra pound.
i care because you do.:)
njordan2
09-09-2010, 23:34
Absolutely. I carry a small three legged stool for sitting on when drawing water. The extra pound in my pack is definitely worth saving my knees from squatting down for half an hour to get water. It is also nice to keep from sitting in a mud puddle or just wet ground when eating lunch.
It always seems that everyone who goes too light to carry one, is more than happy to use mine! And I always let them, if I am not using it.
4eyedbuzzard
09-09-2010, 23:44
. . . It always seems that everyone who goes too light to carry one, is more than happy to use mine! And I always let them, if I am not using it.
Kind of like maps in that regard. Lots of people don't want to carry them, but they're always wanting to look at or borrow someone else's. Although, unlike the chair, I'm old school enough to consider a map and compass essential.
Harrison Bergeron
09-10-2010, 08:40
Finished the Jerry Chair. I used some $1.50 Walmart digital camo coated ripstop that seems to weigh around 2.2oz/yd. It came out to 2.17 oz without the sit pad. It seems pretty comfy, and I can't wait to use it this weekend. I'll try to take some pictures then, because it's too dark now.
Google didn't turn up anything. Is this a plan you found somewhere? More info!
lustreking
09-10-2010, 09:00
Google didn't turn up anything. Is this a plan you found somewhere? More info!
It's what Shadowmoss posted on the previous page.
Here's the layout. Don't know if it will work though:
http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery/files/3/9/4/7/jerrychairdims_original.jpg
skinewmexico
09-10-2010, 10:38
Link doesn't work
lustreking
09-12-2010, 19:27
Link doesn't work
Wasn't sure that would work.
If you go to the hammock forum and search the gallery for Jerry Chair, you should be able to find the dimensions.
Here's mine:
http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq144/lustreking2k/G4%20Pack/IMG_0002.jpg
If you go to the hammock forum and search the gallery for
Daughter says to use a blue foam pad and lean against a tree.
I asked her what happened to using funner posts with bananas and stuff?
OK, Now she is making me change colours.
:o:dance:datz
So, if it was comfy for you, would you consider carrying a chair weighing 15 oz. that packs rather small on a thru hike?
A bare-bones hammock weighs about the same and has far more uses (sleeping -obviously, can be set up as a chair by tying one end lower than the other, and makes a great gear loft if hung in a cabin or shelter).
The only chair that ever caught my eye was once (maybe still) offered by Stephenson Warmlite in New Hampshire. It's called the Slinglight chair and is made (or was) in California.
Here's the link..........http://www.slinglight.com/
Cooldays
09-12-2010, 22:28
Absolutely. I carry a small three legged stool for sitting on when drawing water. The extra pound in my pack is definitely worth saving my knees from squatting down for half an hour to get water. It is also nice to keep from sitting in a mud puddle or just wet ground when eating lunch.
It always seems that everyone who goes too light to carry one, is more than happy to use mine! And I always let them, if I am not using it.
Make or buy a gravity filter and you will never get your feet wet again.
Here's the link..........http://www.slinglight.com/
Just read previous posts and found that you already got the link.
Fwiw, I was toying with the idea of sewing a couple of loops (one on either side) of my hammock so I could stick my trekking poles into them and anchor one end of the hammock to a tree and the other to the ground, using the poles as legs for a chair of sorts. Just haven't gotten around to tinkering ;) with that yet.