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Lion King
10-03-2010, 15:20
Grizzly and Ryder...stole from Chets hostel as well as from hiker Ragin Cajun, last seen in the Lincoln/Kinsman area.
Chet says they lifted from at least two hikers.
Ragin is here trying to resupply his stolen gear.
I havent seen them so I cant give a physical desciption, Chet asked me to post since he has no internet access.
Just a heads up.
mweinstone
10-03-2010, 15:31
thank you bro. this is an example of when its okay to warn others and name names. multipul thefts. hiker and trail buissness. and addressed by one of my core peirs in this land of hiking. miss janet could use as many calls from you as you like. she missis all of us. pipestem gathering ho!
oh, i propose national catch a theif day. a day when all is left unlocked and watched from afar. every theif would be caught in an organized way.
TrailSquirrel
10-03-2010, 15:55
Grizzly and Ryder...stole from Chets hostel as well as from hiker Ragin Cajun, last seen in the Lincoln/Kinsman area.
Chet says they lifted from at least two hikers.
Ragin is here trying to resupply his stolen gear.
I havent seen them so I cant give a physical desciption, Chet asked me to post since he has no internet access.
Just a heads up.
I hope a call to the police was made too.
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 08:43
Trail theivery is repugnant all on its' own. . . stealing from Chet? . . That's beyond description. . . Lion King, if you know what direction they were going, that would help warn others (hikers and hostels) that they are approaching. . . and maybe certain trail folk could pay them an unsuspected visit. . . ;)
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 08:44
I'm guessing they are southbound . . .
Good thread, this is pure BS, my guess would be people like this would be easy to find on the AT, great community we have out there. Wish I were closer to this spot.
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 08:51
Good thread, this is pure BS, my guess would be people like this would be easy to find on the AT, great community we have out there. Wish I were closer to this spot.
I am closer . . . ;)
4eyedbuzzard
10-04-2010, 09:03
I am closer . . . ;)
Pretty much in my backyard. DOn't know when this happened, but if they're SOBO a report to Hanover, NH and Norwich, VT police might prove the best opportunity for them to be found as they'll have the road walk through Hanover and will likely stop for a while for supplies.
fredmugs
10-04-2010, 09:35
Getting ready to do a section up that way. Thanks for the heads up.
Lion King
10-04-2010, 11:10
Ragin Cajun thought they were headed South as well, but we havent seen them here...sort of expecting them.
Hoping they will come by.
Chet could give a descirption, I know what to look for but a Hiker looks like a hiker looks likea homeless person here. so...
Ragin Cajun said he thinks they grab stuff and sell it at the Rainbow gathering he was going to post on this thread with descriptions, maybe he will soon.
Ragin Cajun thought they were headed South as well, but we havent seen them here...sort of expecting them.
Hoping they will come by.
Chet could give a descirption, I know what to look for but a Hiker looks like a hiker looks likea homeless person here. so...
Ragin Cajun said he thinks they grab stuff and sell it at the Rainbow gathering he was going to post on this thread with descriptions, maybe he will soon.
You mean hippies that steal?:eek: I'm so surprised. I hope they catch these jerks, Chet was one of the nicest people I've met on the trail. What a couple of d****.
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 12:13
You mean hippies that steal?:eek: I'm so surprised. I hope they catch these jerks, Chet was one of the nicest people I've met on the trail. What a couple of d****.
I'm with you on everything except the bold part. . . . I mean. . . . huhhhhh?
The Rainbow Gathering is a big hippy thing. While I've met many good hippies, I've met at least as many that are imposters. Just because you have dreadlocks and homemade clothing doesn't mean you're a peaceful fun-loving hippy. Or even a nice person for that matter. Does that make sense?
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 12:30
Does that make sense?
Kind of. . . but the broad generalization is just that. . . I could say it's not a hippy thing and show with many short hair shirt and tie examples why that is, but would it make a difference. . . ?
The subject is stealing. . . hippies were never a part of the story til you introduced it as such. . . does that make sense?
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 12:33
You mean hippies that steal?
While I've met many good hippies, I've met at least as many that are imposters.
Which makes them not hippies, right?
Which makes them not hippies, right?
Correct, that is precisely what I was saying. The assuption, perhaps wrongly on my part, was that if they were stealing things to sell at a rainbow gathering then they were hippy impostors. But, I bet they still consider themselves hippies because they listen to the Dead.
Lone Wolf
10-04-2010, 13:03
the Dead? awful music
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 13:56
Correct, that is precisely what I was saying. The assuption, perhaps wrongly on my part, was that if they were stealing things to sell at a rainbow gathering then they were hippy impostors. But, I bet they still consider themselves hippies because they listen to the Dead.
Just a baffling statement. . . . you were the first to mention hippies and the rainbow gathering. . . or the Dead. . . . . . . . baffling. . . kind of. . . . :-?
the Dead? awful music
Great music, awful fans.
Ragin Cajun said he thinks they grab stuff and sell it at the Rainbow gathering he was going to post on this thread with descriptions, maybe he will soon.
Anyway tou slice it these guys are buttholes. ;)
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 14:45
Anyway tou slice it these guys are buttholes. ;)
These guys, Yes. . . completely agree. . . impossible not to. . .
The Rainbow Gathering is a big hippy thing......
Thru-hiker wannabes who like to twirl?
Just a baffling statement. . . . you were the first to mention hippies and the rainbow gathering. . . or the Dead. . . . . . . . baffling. . . kind of. . . . :-?
hey, warrghy, go back a couple of posts before hers. lion king brought up the thieves selling the stuff at a rainbow gathering.
Migrating Bird
10-04-2010, 16:35
Just a thought, perhaps, the cool nasty weather this week will put the scum off the trail and into town.
Wise Old Owl
10-04-2010, 17:31
Ok lets do some rough math - 6 miles back to the trail head 2 days head start 15 miles per day (inside) That would place them at Hanover tonight....
20 + miles per day crow flys... Thistle Hill Shelter...
Thoughts anyone?
Ok lets do some rough math - 6 miles back to the trail head 2 days head start 15 miles per day (inside) That would place them at Hanover tonight....
20 + miles per day crow flys... Thistle Hill Shelter...
Thoughts anyone?
We could muster up a posse Sheriff!
Wise Old Owl
10-04-2010, 17:51
Makes you want to pick them up and take them back with a free shuttle to meet the consequences..... how quick can we put one of these together...?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/2251224817_3428d8b3c3.jpg
the rest bring big juicy tomatoes.........
Appalachian Tater
10-04-2010, 17:55
I was wondering how someone managed to steal a trail. With no description, and heading southbound, these guys can change their names and not get caught.
Wise Old Owl
10-04-2010, 18:05
I was wondering how someone managed to steal a trail. With no description, and heading southbound, these guys can change their names and not get caught.
Chet & Bruce say...
Grizzly is 6 foot Dark Brown Hair with a blue black backpack
and Ryder is 5 / 8" Blond wearing dark clothes....
Missing are wallets.
I will add to this when they call back.
4eyedbuzzard
10-04-2010, 18:19
I sent an email to the Hanover PD with a link to this thread and the BG's descriptions.
Just a Hiker
10-04-2010, 18:35
I'm in Hanover tonight (heading south)......I'll keep an eye out for these d**kheads. Just Jim
Wise Old Owl
10-04-2010, 18:37
I'm in Hanover tonight (heading south)......I'll keep an eye out for these d**kheads. Just Jim
don't mention it... if you hike into them don't mention it.
Just a Hiker
10-04-2010, 18:44
don't mention it... if you hike into them don't mention it.
I won't Owl....I haven't seen anyone on the trail in a couple of days, and I didn't see anyone with a "hiker look" in Hanover this afternoon. I'm at the Hostel in the Hotel Coolidge in White River Junction tonight and there's no other hikers here. I'll be at Thistle Hill Lean to tomorrow, so I'll keep a look out. By the way, the water situation up here has improved since all the rain last week.
My vote is to coat them with honey and tie them to a tree. Trail Magic for bears!!!
kayak karl
10-04-2010, 19:07
are these hikers or posers. have others hiked any distance with them?
and if i was gettin out of Dodge I would tell Festus I was going south and then double back and go east :)
4eyedbuzzard
10-04-2010, 20:00
are these hikers or posers. have others hiked any distance with them?
and if i was gettin out of Dodge I would tell Festus I was going south and then double back and go east :)
Miss Kitty would have heard of such goin's on and told Marshall Dillion. He'd have headed you off at the pass.
Wise Old Owl
10-04-2010, 20:00
shame we don't have pictures freind or foe....
Just a Hiker
10-04-2010, 20:41
The folks running the Hostel here in White River Junction Know about it....I actually came in from West Hartford tonight, so I'll tell the folks at the General Store tomorrow. There's a couple in West Hartford who also let hikers camp in their garage....I'll let them know too.
Pedaling Fool
10-04-2010, 20:53
How much stuff/money was stolen?
Talkin' about the old West................String 'em Up!
kayak karl
10-04-2010, 21:05
that's stupid. we aren't in the west. throw them in the ocean for lobster bait and have a beach picnic :D
4eyedbuzzard
10-04-2010, 21:08
that's stupid. we aren't in the west. throw them in the ocean for lobster bait and have a beach picnic :D
Give 'em a snorkel tube and tie them underwater to a dock piling. Crabs just love 'em. :eek:
kayak karl
10-04-2010, 21:16
Give 'em a snorkel tube and tie them underwater to a dock piling. Crabs just love 'em. :eek:
LOL. later ill tell you a story about my ex-mother- in-law.:D
warraghiyagey
10-04-2010, 21:21
Give 'em a snorkel tube and tie them underwater to a dock piling. Crabs just love 'em. :eek:
I'm guessin they already have crabs. . .
I hear the Ice Road Truckers need grease.
BAG "o" TRICKS
10-05-2010, 12:23
the Dead? awful music
Party pooper!
BAG "o" TRICKS
10-05-2010, 12:26
Ok lets do some rough math - 6 miles back to the trail head 2 days head start 15 miles per day (inside) That would place them at Hanover tonight....
20 + miles per day crow flys... Thistle Hill Shelter...
Thoughts anyone?
Let the Lone Ranger head'em off at Joe Ranger road.
BAG "o" TRICKS
10-05-2010, 12:34
Chet & Bruce say...
Grizzly is 6 foot Dark Brown Hair with a blue black backpack
and Ryder is 5 / 8" Blond wearing dark clothes....
Missing are wallets.
I will add to this when they call back.
It's ashame there are no pictures of these two becuase then everyone would know who to lookout for. Are they defintely sobo? and has anyone else seen or heard of them?
In NC, credit card theft and withholding is a felony.
wouldn't it be a shame if these folks were innocent and their hike was ruined by folks jumping to conclusions? Just a thought.....this is still America isn't it? What's that nasty old republican saying....something about innocent until proven guilty. Piss on it, let's call ahead and string em up.
Clyde
Lion King
10-05-2010, 16:12
I dont think Chet would lie about something like this.
I dont think Chet would lie about something like this.
Didn't imply anyone was lying. Just taking a moment to say Hmmmm....
Clyde
Toolshed
10-05-2010, 17:11
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): Is it possible the 2 defendants... went into the Sac-O-Suds, picked 22 specific items off of the shelf, had the clerk take the money, make change, then leave. Then 2 different men, drive up...
[Seeing Mr. Tipton shake his head no]
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): Don't shake your head I'm not finished yet. Wait until you hear the whole thing you can understand what it is that I'm axin'. Then, two different men drive up in a similar looking car, go into the store, shoot the clerk, rob him, then leave?
Mr. Tipton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001999/): No. They didn't have enough time.
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): Why not? How long was they in the store for?
Mr. Tipton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001999/): 5 minutes.
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): 5 minutes? How do you know? Did you look at your watch?
Mr. Tipton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001999/): No.
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): Oh, oh, oh, you tesitfied earlier that you saw the boys go into the store, and you had just begun to cook your breakfast and you were just getting ready to eat when you heard the shot.
Mr. Tipton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001999/): That's right.
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): So obviously it takes you 5 minutes to cook your breakfast.
Mr. Tipton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001999/): That's right.
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): That's right, so you knew that. You remember what you had?
Mr. Tipton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001999/): Eggs and grits.
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): Eggs and grits. I like grits, too. How do you cook your grits? Do you like them regular, creamy or al dente?
Mr. Tipton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001999/): Just regular I guess.
Vinny Gambini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000582/): Regular. Instant grits?
Mr. Tipton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001999/): No self respectin' Southerner uses instant grits. I take pride in my grits.
max patch
10-05-2010, 17:19
wouldn't it be a shame if these folks were innocent and their hike was ruined by folks jumping to conclusions? Just a thought.....this is still America isn't it? What's that nasty old republican saying....something about innocent until proven guilty. Piss on it, let's call ahead and string em up.
Clyde
Every time I read one of these types of threads I'm reminded of the time when Harry the Indian (a true trail legend) was accused of stealing something from a married couples pack. They were positive Harry had stolen the item. No doubts. When they reached Damascus they called the police and Harry and his girlfriend (wife?) and their packs were searched in front of everyone in The Place. Stolen item not found. And then - oops - the item was found deep in the owners pack. Misplaced. Not stolen.
Pedaling Fool
10-05-2010, 17:23
http://www.getoffmysoapbox.com/.a/6a00e55446b4da883301310f324e5c970c-800wi
Yeah, but she's the hottie that kept them boys out of prison
:sun
Captain Stash
10-05-2010, 17:25
We haven't seen them today here in West Hartford YET! but we're looking for them!
Captain Stash
10-05-2010, 17:58
From Hanover NH PD:
If anyone sees Ragin’ Cajun, please have him report details of items stolen from him to Lincoln PD (603 745-9000). Otherwise it is difficult to follow-up even if we encounter Grizzly and Ryder. Chet thinks Ragin’ Cajun was south bound also, having stated that he was “walking home”.
Michael Evans
Hanover NH PD
603 643-2222
4eyedbuzzard
10-05-2010, 18:18
When were they last at Kinsman / Rt 112? Hanover PD is interested about when they might be through there.
Hanover NH Police
10-05-2010, 22:14
Thanks for posting for me Captain Stash, we are approved now to post our own messages.
We have info that they left the Lincoln/Rt 112/Kinsman area on Oct 1st or 2nd. Some are estimating 3-6 days to get to Hanover depending on their skill and effort.
Most important, if anyone sees Ragin Cajun, have him report specifics of what was stolen from him. Chet told me that he only lost an old sleeping pad, which he is not going to report. Chet says Ragin Cajun lost a digital camera and a sleeping bag, but did not report it to the police. You all come through here with a bag and a camera, but any detailed specifics on either will give us something to work with IF we encounter them.
Thanks to you all for your help.
Michael Evans
Hanover Police
Johnny Thunder
10-06-2010, 07:33
there's no justice like mob justice.
there's no justice like mob justice.
There's no justice............ it's just us.
4eyedbuzzard
10-06-2010, 08:06
Reading some of these posts (including one of my own) brings back memories.
Here's looking at you Grizzly and Ryder
http://deathwishfiles.com/Death%20Wish%2021.JPG
BAG "o" TRICKS
10-06-2010, 09:14
Thanks for posting for me Captain Stash, we are approved now to post our own messages.
We have info that they left the Lincoln/Rt 112/Kinsman area on Oct 1st or 2nd. Some are estimating 3-6 days to get to Hanover depending on their skill and effort.
Most important, if anyone sees Ragin Cajun, have him report specifics of what was stolen from him. Chet told me that he only lost an old sleeping pad, which he is not going to report. Chet says Ragin Cajun lost a digital camera and a sleeping bag, but did not report it to the police. You all come through here with a bag and a camera, but any detailed specifics on either will give us something to work with IF we encounter them.
Thanks to you all for your help.
Michael Evans
Hanover Police
My guess is that these two probably hitched a ride out of the Lincoln area since they’ve not been seen on the trail lately, but.., you never know:-.., keep a sharp eye. It's nice to see the hiking community and law enforcement involved in this, but 'we', "the trail community", must remember that with any reported incidents such as this to gather 'all of the facts first' and 'then' put that information through the proper channels. For the record, I'm not saying these two are innocent, only that we ‘must’ verify info before we put it out there. If possible, I prefer to hear it directly from those involved as too much can be ‘lost or added’ through secondhand communication.
neighbor dave
10-06-2010, 09:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyUagbsg-HI
So based on the post by the Hanover PD the info about the stolen wallets was incorrect?
Pedaling Fool
10-06-2010, 10:27
What's the name of that game where you whisper in someone's ear and....
What's the name of that game where you whisper in someone's ear and....
Yep, turns into a big ol' fish story.
4eyedbuzzard
10-06-2010, 10:41
So based on the post by the Hanover PD the info about the stolen wallets was incorrect?
Dunno. This is where the stolen wallet info came from
Chet & Bruce say...
Grizzly is 6 foot Dark Brown Hair with a blue black backpack
and Ryder is 5 / 8" Blond wearing dark clothes....
Missing are wallets.
I will add to this when they call back.
It's nice to see the hiking community and law enforcement involved in this, but we must remember with any reportable incident the best procedure is to gather all of the facts first and then report them through the proper channels.
To learn more about procedure, see ATC's Reporting an Incident on the A.T. (http://www.appalachiantrail.org/site/c.mqLTIYOwGlF/b.5129395/k.18A4/Reporting_an_Incident_on_the_AT.htm)
What's the name of that game where you whisper in someone's ear and....
Telephone is the name I'm familiar with.
Just a reminder everyone, much as we may be angry about hikers stealing/being stolen from, do not promote any violence or vigilantism.
Aside from that, we really don't know what happened, so let the police figure that one out... in other words, don't jump to unwavering conclusions.
mweinstone
10-06-2010, 15:14
cops are so frikkin cool. things i would have done had i only become a cop instead of a matthewski:
tonight i could go to the game and watch the phills from anywhere in the park. i would say i lost my badge or some crap.
thruhike in my uniform
search pirate just to see what that old mans up to
jack lwolf up against the wall and demand dead baby jokes anytime day or night as the mood suits me.
hang out in texas cop bars with mountain dew and meet chicks like honeydew.
and the number one thing if i was a cop not a matthewski,......demand a full menu of sugar free donoughts from dunkin. not just the lameass three crappy flavors like plaine. ***? plain?!
and you would have become very familiar with Internal Affairs!