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Bearbag
03-11-2011, 14:32
I consider myself somewhat of a "traditionalist". My kids say im just old. But i am seriously considering going back to an external. I'm looking for input on the newer externals. Anyone have any experience with newer models?


I gotta have more cowbell!

Sergemaster
03-11-2011, 15:20
Hey Bearbag,
If you do a search on "external frame packs" you will find a slew of information on the subject including the external vs. internal debate..

Personally I prefer an external for various reasons over the internal but that's just me..

Cheers,
Serge

CrumbSnatcher
03-11-2011, 15:27
I consider myself somewhat of a "traditionalist". My kids say im just old. But i am seriously considering going back to an external. I'm looking for input on the newer externals. Anyone have any experience with newer models?


I gotta have more cowbell!
you bet ! nothing better IMO

CrumbSnatcher
03-11-2011, 15:28
What kind of external did you have

Cookerhiker
03-11-2011, 15:29
Last used mine in '04. But I still have it!

Sickmont
03-11-2011, 15:32
Yep. Just bought a Kelty Trekker 3950 a few weeks ago. I love it.

hikerhobs
03-11-2011, 15:50
I also have a kelty trekker 3950 nice pack plenty of pockets i use it all year around

leaftye
03-11-2011, 16:13
http://kuiu.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dsc_00421.jpg?w=500&h=965

ChrisFol
03-11-2011, 18:17
I consider myself somewhat of a "traditionalist". My kids say im just old. But i am seriously considering going back to an external. I'm looking for input on the newer externals. Anyone have any experience with newer models?


I gotta have more cowbell!

My father-in-law still loves and uses his decade old Kelty Trekker, I still don't know why he doesn't purchase a new pack but one thing is for sure, that Trekker is a work horse.

Just last year when we backpacked into the La Garita Wilderness he must have loaded that dam thing up with nearly 50lbs of gear-- full chest waders and everything and he never complained once about it hurting him.

CrumbSnatcher
03-11-2011, 18:40
My father-in-law still loves and uses his decade old Kelty Trekker, I still don't know why he doesn't purchase a new pack but one thing is for sure, that Trekker is a work horse.

Just last year when we backpacked into the La Garita Wilderness he must have loaded that dam thing up with nearly 50lbs of gear-- full chest waders and everything and he never complained once about it hurting him.
probably because the external carries the weight so much better!, gets the weight on the hips more than the shoulder.
kelty super tiogas are my favorite pack. also just picked up a dana designs k2 shortbed.

Joey C
03-11-2011, 19:09
There are a lot of folks who dearly love their external frame packs. Heavy or not, they tend to carry well and last. I don't think they'll ever disappear from the hiking scene. As for me, my Cuben fiber 7 oz pack works just fine. To each their own!

skinewmexico
03-11-2011, 19:18
My Kelty 50th Anniversary model is lighter than a lot of the internals that are worshipped here on WB. Still heavier than I want to use, unless I'm carrying 4-5 gallson of water.

moytoy
03-11-2011, 19:45
Kelty trekker here also. Although if I could have got a golite at the sale price a few days ago I would have just to see how I like it.

Wise Old Owl
03-11-2011, 20:20
Cabelas has them on the catalogs but suddenly they were dropped from the website, Frame packs are still the rage in colder climates - like Alaska.

skinewmexico
03-11-2011, 20:28
http://kuiu.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dsc_00421.jpg?w=500&h=965

OK, I'll bite. What is it?

generoll
03-11-2011, 20:33
after several years I went back to an external. it carries better and more importantly it's cooler. in warmer seasons I've soaked the contents of my internal frame just from perspiration. I also like the pockets on the externals. It always seemed that whatever I wanted was at the bottom of my pack.

ATsawyer
03-11-2011, 21:23
I use mine as a freighter for trail tools, particularly Griphoists, chain, blocks, etc. The ones from Cabelas are really well made and can take a serious beating.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10369&stc=1&d=1299892711

map man
03-11-2011, 23:04
You ask about "newer externals." One that came out in the last decade, and that I've used for the last five years, is the external frame from Luxurylite (luxurylite.com). My rig weighs two pounds and has a capacity around 4300 cubic inches (70 liters). I've had good luck with it. One drawback is that it is expensive.

CrumbSnatcher
03-12-2011, 00:05
i have a new never used 2004(or so)kelty super tioga i bought on e-bay
it weighs 5 pounds with the lighter pack cloth, the same pack cloth my 50th year anniversary pack had.
compared to my super tioga in 1998-99 i believed it weighed in around 6-7 pounds.
love the pockets, i usually woke up loaded up and hiking in less than 30 minutes. and the airflow behind the back is not a bad thing:cool:

Trailweaver
03-12-2011, 02:47
Well I bought a really good, highly recommended internal frame that is a top loading thing, and I've hated every moment of hiking with it. If I want one single thing out of it, I have to unload twenty things to get to it. The only thing going for it is that it is lighter weight than my old external frame. I keep my external frame for use when someone goes with me and they don't have a pack - a loaner. I just always liked the pockets and divided sections, and being able to organize my gear so that I didn't have to pull out every d___ thing and put it on the dirt/wet/dust/whatever to set up camp.

I had another external frame (my husband's) and he was never going to use it again, so I gave it to a relative of ours who has a job in California basically backpacking for a living . . . he loves external frame packs. His old one had lasted about 15 years I think. Anyway, his philosophy is that if you can't carry the weight, you shouldn't be backpacking. . . and also says that taking on the weight helps him stay in shape. My guess is that his pack doesn't ever weigh more than 30 lbs., because he's comfortable as a minimalist anyway, but I know he could haul 60 lbs. if he needed to.

Zeno Marx
03-12-2011, 04:27
also just picked up a dana designs k2 shortbed.Some of the ones made just there at the end were made like utter crap. Waterproofing peeling and getting all over everything. Fabrics bleeding at the first sign of getting wet. Cut-corners stitching, and with really wimpy threads. The frame and harness remained good quality, but the pack body was really a slap in the face of a company known for its high quality and overkill materials.

Marnee
03-12-2011, 06:50
I think external frame packs are great. I used a Kelty something-or-other when backpacking all over Central America in 2000. It was light and sturdy and held up well considering all the chicken buses it was thrown on top of. I really loved it. My idiot traveling partner thought it was lame. I dunno. His pack was huge and weighed a million pounds. Mine was light. I had lots of fun. He was always grumpy.

Windcatcher
03-12-2011, 09:26
I have several packs to use depending on the type of activity; hydration day pack, internal for overnighters, external with a kevlar reinforced poly frame for longer trips.

leaftye
03-12-2011, 23:08
OK, I'll bite. What is it?

It's by KUIU

http://kuiu.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/icon-carbon-fiber-frame/


The price is better than I thought it would be.

Fiddleback
03-13-2011, 11:13
Usually, I sweat copiously and soak through my clothes quickly when I'm on the trail. Rightly or wrongly I thought a close fitting internal wouldn't be as comfortable as an external. I've never used an internal...what have I missed?

FB

Limo
03-13-2011, 19:42
I need a new pack and after years of carrying my little top loading REI UL-45, I'm seriously considering going back to an external frame, probably a Kelty. My old externals were much more comfortable and easier to organize. I have a GC rim-to-rim and possibly a JMT trip on the horizon. I'm getting old and grumpy and just want to be comfortable when I'm walking.

jima59
03-13-2011, 21:22
About 35 years ago I did 3 trips on the AT. The longest from Springer to Damascus and each time I used the same old Kelty external frame with the 4 outside pockets. It was later stolen a few years later out of my VW bus. I'm buying a couple of them now off of Ebay for a future hike. I know they are old, heavy and clunky but so am I so I figure I can downsize my load and it will work just fine. Love them. the old green one.

Jimajax

Jacksonville Florida

The Old Boot
03-14-2011, 11:05
Can anyone tell me which of the external frame packs are THE most adjustable.

I have a really short torso length and finding an external frame that will shorten down for me is problematic. Most that are short enough for me are meant for kids use and hence the frame itself is too short.

Ideally, I'd like to be able to find a frame only and develop my own pack since sewing and designing stuff is not a problem.