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Tom Murphy
08-11-2011, 14:27
Trying to reduce base weight, I would appreciate any comments. This is for 3-7 day section hikes. Thanks.



Shelter



hammock



tarp



stakes and guylines



Sleep System



Underquilt



compression sack for quilt



Layers [worn]



long sleeve t-shirt with 1/4 zip



socks



swim trunks



river shoes



Extra Layers



down vest



wool toque



wool liner gloves



mid weight wool base layer top



mid weight wool base layer bottom



thick wool socks



2nd pair of hiking socks



poncho



stuff sack / pillow



Pack



internal frame - Osprey Kestrel 58



First Aid



home assemblied



Water



tablets, coffee filter, rubber bands



2 gatorade bottles [clean water]



1 gatorade [dirty water]



Kitchen



TI solo pot and lid



wood stove



TI fork and spoon



ziplock plastic bowl



wind screen



Misc



duct tape & tie wraps



bandana



car key



TP & hand sanitizer



tooth brush & paste



bug lotion



bear bag kit



firestarter [dryer lint & pine needles]



Firesteel



matches in w/p container



bic lighter



whistle



compass



map [2]



Guidebook - relevant sections



tiny swiss army knife



head lamp



tea candle



Luxuries



baseball hat



camera



GPS



hiking poles



IPod with audiobooks






Eliminated



undies



sleeping pad



top quilt



bug net for hammock



weathershield for underquilt



spare pair of eye glasses



spare head lamp



spare bic lighter



altimeter



watch



uninocular



emergency space blanket



camp shoes



cell phone



trowel



coffee press






Eliminated - Base Camping Luxuries



21" sven bow saw



hatchet



mora knife



mug, insulated



hand crank weather radio



lantern, battery operated



lantern, candle






Replaced with other gear



tent body and poles



tent fly



sleeping bag



zip-off convertible pants



hiking boots



fleece jacket



knit hat



fleece gloves



rain jacket & rain pants



external frame



store bought first aid kit



water purifier / filter



1 liter nalgene



water bladder and hose



Anodized AL pot with lid [and pot holder]



propane canister and stove



lexan spork



squishy bowl



multitool



paperback






Unsure



Windproof Pants



2 Litre Platypus Water Carrier



Wet Ones



spare batteries for head lamp and/or GPS



pen and paper

Tom Murphy
08-11-2011, 14:34
In case it wasn't obvious, extra clothing layers will be used in sleep system as required.

q-tip
08-12-2011, 14:15
It might help to get a postal scale and weigh all this stuff. it is amazing what you find you will not carry when it is all weighed out.

scope
08-12-2011, 14:45
I wondered if you were spending the summer on the Labrador coast before I saw your comment about the clothing layers as part of the sleep system.

I hammock, and I take my 3-season down quilt anytime lows are in the 50s or less. Just a lot easier to regulate my temp as opposed to putting on or off clothes during the night, and I know I'm covered if the temps drop more than expected.

Wags
08-12-2011, 17:08
you've really got your list well thought out. here is one area where maybe you can leave some stuff:

3 different fire starters. matches, bic, firesteel. maybe pick 2? also, the w/p container that the matches are in. perhaps just put the matches in with your firestarter stuff (lint) and leave the container.

the only other place i could see saving some weight would be leaving the merino base layers, or leaving some of your technology at home...

tammons
08-14-2011, 19:27
Looks like a lot of stuff.

I think you would be better off just making a M90 2.5xp climasheild quilt
and leave all the clothing at home.

My summer quilt weighs 12.5 oz and cost about $90 to make.

Tom Murphy
08-14-2011, 20:48
Thanks for the comments.

I am going to compare the weight of the hat, gloves, vest, and mid weight bottoms VS. my top quilt. I think I would still bring my mid weight wool top. My thought was that the layers would be double duty - insulation at camp a night or on trail PLUS substitute for top quilt. But maybe the the top quilt is the way to go.

I know the camera and GPS are luxuries and may leave the GPS when I intend on staying on established trails [like the AT].

The matches will definitely go in the zip lock baggie with the firestarter and the bic. Not sure why I missed that.

ScottP
08-14-2011, 22:48
the clothes list looks more like an early spring/late fall or mild winter setup. Not going to hurt you to carry it all your first time out, but you probably won't carry all that a second time in the summer.

Also, you may want to do some posting in the hammock sub-forum of whiteblaze.

paintballswimguy
08-19-2011, 23:56
I'm editing your gear list, which is why i quoted it. FYI, you should weigh everything too


Trying to reduce base weight, I would appreciate any comments. This is for 3-7 day section hikes. Thanks.



Shelter


hammock


tarp


stakes and guylines


Sleep System


Underquilt


compression sack for quilt ditch this, loosely pack your quilt, save an ounce or 2


Layers [worn]


long sleeve t-shirt with 1/4 zip make sure it isn't cotton


socks


swim trunks


river shoes


Extra Layers


down vest


wool toque


wool liner gloves you have 3 pairs of socks, socks can double as mittens, especially in the summer.


mid weight wool base layer top


mid weight wool base layer bottom


thick wool socks ​you only need 2 pairs of socks


2nd pair of hiking socks


poncho how light it this rain system, if its a thick pinch, you may want to reconsider


stuff sack / pillow you have another stuff sack listed, you can always stuff clothes inside a tshirt


Pack


internal frame - Osprey Kestrel 58 this is a huge pack, you may want to ditch the lid on it...

do you have a pack cover, or garbage disposal pack liner?


First Aid


home assemblied make sure this doesn't weigh to much, its easy to get carried away


Water


tablets, coffee filter, rubber bands You might try aqua mira, or bleach. doesn't have the bad taste


2 gatorade bottles [clean water]


1 gatorade [dirty water]


Kitchen


TI solo pot and lid


wood stove


TI fork and spoon i find that a spoon is all i need, save 3/4 of an ounce


ziplock plastic bowl, is there a reason you can eat out of the titanium solo pot with lid


wind screen


Misc


duct tape & tie wraps wrap duct tape around a lighter. you also only need 3 to 4 tie wraps max


bandana


car key


TP & hand sanitizer do you really need TP... isn't that what leaves are for?


tooth brush & paste


bug lotion


bear bag kit This is an area that can surprisingly weigh a lot, see how much you can reduce its weight by.


firestarter [dryer lint & pine needles] don't need, you may want dryer lint for convince though


Firesteel don't need


matches in w/p container ditch this


bic lighter go with a bic mini, extremely reliable, and throw 5 or 6 strike anywhere matches (in small ziplock) in your first aid kit. its all you need


whistle make sure its light, like a fox 40, and isn't huge


compass i've never needed a compass on the at, but thats just me.


map [2] depending on the guidebook, it may be enough


Guidebook - relevant sections


tiny swiss army knife


head lamp


tea candle not sure what this is for


Luxuries


baseball hat


camera do you have a smartphone, if so you could ditch the camera and iPod


GPS you have a map, guidebook, and compass, what is this for?


hiking poles for me these are a necessity, not a luxury. lol


IPod with audiobooks





Eliminated


undies


sleeping pad does the under quilt or your pad weigh more.


top quilt depending on weight you may add this back and ditch some clothes


bug net for hammock


weathershield for underquilt


spare pair of eye glasses


spare head lamp


spare bic lighter


altimeter


watch


uninocular


emergency space blanket


camp shoes


cell phone


trowel


coffee press





Eliminated - Base Camping Luxuries


21" sven bow saw


hatchet


mora knife


mug, insulated


hand crank weather radio


lantern, battery operated


lantern, candle





Replaced with other gear


tent body and poles


tent fly


sleeping bag


zip-off convertible pants


hiking boots


fleece jacket


knit hat


fleece gloves


rain jacket & rain pants does poncho, weigh more or less


external frame


store bought first aid kit


water purifier / filter


1 liter nalgene


water bladder and hose


Anodized AL pot with lid [and pot holder]


propane canister and stove


lexan spork


squishy bowl


multitool


paperback





Unsure


Windproof Pants i hiked the AT this spring for 5 weeks, and never once pulled out my rain paints, but thats just me. you may want them


2 Litre Platypus Water Carrier you already have the ability to carry 3 Liters of water if necessary, you'll be fine


Wet Ones your already bringing germs.


spare batteries for head lamp and/or GPS for 5 to 7 days, you don't need spare batteries


pen and paper