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stilllife
10-17-2011, 14:35
I want to get a new tent so I came to the experts. Need suggestions please. Criteria:

40 oz or less my current 2p tent is 80 and I want to cut it in half

can set up in rain without getting interior wet. Doesn't have to be free standing. Can be.

for me only but no coffin. 1p or 2p is fine

I hate condensation. I know "all tents have it"

doublle wall or hybrid

would like views from all sides when not raining

3 season

Beautiful Babe included!

Thanks for the help and the Beautiful Babe.

Bloomer
10-17-2011, 14:37
Check out Big Anges tents.

Wil
10-17-2011, 16:10
40 oz or less
can set up in rain without getting interior wet
Doesn't have to be free standing
for me only but no coffin
I hate condensation
double wall or hybrid
would like views from all sides when not raining
3 seasonGood work setting the criteria. Add price and I think we're good to go.

Ender
10-17-2011, 16:34
I'd take a look at the Z-pack shelters. They sell a tarp and also a clip-in inner bug shelter. The two items together weigh about a pound.

EastCoastFeastCoast
10-17-2011, 16:49
Zpack shelters are really nice... then again... you could always go hammock! AHHHHHH!

Wil
10-17-2011, 16:58
I'd take a look at the Z-pack shelters. They sell a tarp and also a clip-in inner bug shelter. The two items together weigh about a pound.Even in the Plus size a little under a pound. He would definitely need the Plus; the solo wouldn't meet his "no coffin" criteria.

The Twin might be better for a person who wants lots of room, still under a pound. But only available in the integrated version, no separate bugnet layer so no "views in all directions."

Also, these are pricey so we need to know where he is on that. For example, on the low price extreme would be a (closeout if he can find one) of the Eureka Ultralight which I've seen as low as $79. Would _just_ meet his 40 oz. criteria by substituting lighter pegs and stuffsack.

wwbriggs
10-17-2011, 17:58
Hammock in winter... bridges freeze first.

stilllife
10-17-2011, 18:02
Oh yea the price. Not really a factor. I know I'm gonna spend upwards of $400 or so for a nice tent. No hammocks please! Maybe next year. Not now. Just a tent.

stilllife
10-17-2011, 18:04
Good work setting the criteria. Add price and I think we're good to go.

Oh yea the price. Not really a factor. I know I'm gonna spend upwards of $400 or so for a nice tent. No hammocks please! Maybe next year. Not now. Just a tent.

(figured that quote thing out finally)

Ladytrekker
10-17-2011, 18:12
The basic tents everyone talks about on here in that category are the Tarptents, Lightheart, SMD's. I am looking at tents also I want something with an attached fly I don't like the two piece tents although I presently use a SD flashlight 2. I also like the Montbell Crescent 2 the downsides are small front door entry. I prefer side entry tents. I do like the look of the tarptent moment or the lightheart solong 6. The lighthearts are costly. I want to follow the ideas you are given on this thread.

kayak karl
10-17-2011, 18:21
Hammock in winter... bridges freeze first.
you don't got a clue. been down below 0 in hammock and watched the tenters whimper and run off the trail.

but for a tent LightHeart has some great ones. http://lightheartgear.com/

Tinker
10-18-2011, 00:39
Check these out: http://bearpawwd.com/

One more thing to consider: how much/little airflow do you want through the tent? To be able to adjust the airflow you need solid fabric doors or windows, which adds weight and increases the possibility of condensation. One tent doesn't do it all. The closest would be the Stephenson Warmlite tents with the custom side window option www.warmlite.com (http://www.warmlite.com) . $$$$$$ (Btw, I've been to the Warmlite factory (former location) and their product designs are top-notch. I bought one of their bags many years ago and sold it just three years ago. It was too warm for most of my hiking needs (and a bit heavy because of the semi-rectangular design). The tents are their most impressive piece of equipment. Google for comments by owners. Most rave about them.

Wil
10-18-2011, 01:50
The closest would be the Stephenson Warmlite tents with the custom side window option www.warmlite.com (http://www.warmlite.com) . $$$$$$ (Btw, I've been to the Warmlite factory (former location) and their product designs are top-notch...The tents are their most impressive piece of equipment.I hold the Warmlite tents in very high regard and I still use one as my primary Winter tent and occasionally in other environments.

But one of the OP's criteria is: "would like to see in all directions when it's not raining." No good. Back to the drawing board.

Tinker
10-18-2011, 09:08
With the optional side windows he could see in three directions. I imagine he could order a second door as well, which would give him a 360 degree line of vision. It's the$$$$ that become the obstacle then.

sbhikes
10-18-2011, 11:29
Another vote for the Lightheart tents.

Franco
10-18-2011, 16:18
If you use trekking poles, you could look at the soon to be released (a few weeks...) Strato Spire 1.
Sets up as an integral pitch (inner and fly together) , opens up both sides almost completly but easy enough to keep some rain protection even opened up, largish floor and plenty of headroom...
( you will be able to also get straight tent poles for it , about 4 oz ,for both, so 32oz for the shelter and pegs, about 36 if you need poles.

http://www.tarptent.com/stratospire1.html
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Franco
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stranger
10-20-2011, 08:30
I really like the following tents: Lightheart Gear Solo, Tarptent Moment, Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo,, Big Anges Copper Spur 1, MSR Hubba, etc...they range from about 25 ounces up towards 40, all are side entry.

Keep in mine all have drawbacks, some will mist, some won't, some require trekking poles, some have their own. Some are free standing, some are not.

clsvideo
10-20-2011, 09:22
My friends and I swear by the MSR Hubba Solo Tent. Weighs 45 ounces but is free standing and super strong. Packs down small. I love this tent! Retails for $250 but I found mine for $160.

Red Beard
10-20-2011, 09:27
Another vote for LightHeart gear.

Del Q
10-20-2011, 21:01
Tons of options, cuben fiber is the lightest, why not just "go for the gold". Lightheart. Hyperlight Mountain Gear Six Moons

stilllife
10-21-2011, 10:13
If you use trekking poles, you could look at the soon to be released (a few weeks...) Strato Spire 1.
Sets up as an integral pitch (inner and fly together) , opens up both sides almost completly but easy enough to keep some rain protection even opened up, largish floor and plenty of headroom...
( you will be able to also get straight tent poles for it , about 4 oz ,for both, so 32oz for the shelter and pegs, about 36 if you need poles.

http://www.tarptent.com/stratospire1.html
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Franco
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Franco, when will this tent be ready and how much. I want one.

Franco
10-21-2011, 17:32
I want one

Me too...
Henry has the first trial run of the SS2 , the production run will be ready in a week or two.
The SS1 will be next, so I imagine 3rd week in November .
The final price for either is not finalised but both will be under your $400 mark.
Because of the double vestibules and entry points, the solo should be more than big enough for most.
Oddly because after a few years of draught we are getting frequent rains here now , a mate and myself have been discussing getting a flat tarp to be able to eat under and spend time outside our solo tents
(Moment,Contrail,Rainbow...)
Thinking about this maybe the SS2 fly only could work for us. I will have to try that...
Franco

stilllife
10-21-2011, 19:51
I want one

Me too...
Henry has the first trial run of the SS2 , the production run will be ready in a week or two.
The SS1 will be next, so I imagine 3rd week in November .
The final price for either is not finalised but both will be under your $400 mark.
Because of the double vestibules and entry points, the solo should be more than big enough for most.
Oddly because after a few years of draught we are getting frequent rains here now , a mate and myself have been discussing getting a flat tarp to be able to eat under and spend time outside our solo tents
(Moment,Contrail,Rainbow...)
Thinking about this maybe the SS2 fly only could work for us. I will have to try that...
Franco

Thanks. Thats great. That tent looks exactly like what I am looking for. Cant wait.

Tinker
10-21-2011, 19:53
Here's another one to consider: http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=174

I bought a poncho from them a few years ago and the quality of workmanship is excellent.

Don Newcomb
10-26-2011, 17:19
Since price is not a factor, look at the Warmlite 2R (http://warmlite.com/warmlite-two-person-tent). However, with that "babe" in mind, you might want a little more "elbow room", so you could go to a 3R (http://warmlite.com/warmlite-three-person-tent).

Echraide
10-26-2011, 19:29
http://www.tarptent.com/stratospire1.html
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Franco, what's the floor made of?

Franco
10-27-2011, 00:38
both the fly and floor are made of silnylon.
The floor is of a different type, it has some minor PU content.
Franco

Tinker
10-27-2011, 00:48
both the fly and floor are made of silnylon.
The floor is of a different type, it has some minor PU content.
Franco
After a few weeks the whole tent will have some P.U. content. ;)

Chubbs4U
10-27-2011, 02:28
After a few weeks the whole tent will have some P.U. content. ;)
Actually LOLed I usually hate the "dad jokes" but timing is everything.:D

Harrison Bergeron
10-27-2011, 18:31
I've been away. Did we change our minds about the SMD Skyscape? Surprised nobody has mentioned it. I love mine. Looks like they finally released the cuben version -- the guy did say that price was no object. It meets all his requirements (including room for 2 if they're cuddly). 15 oz. http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/

Echraide
10-27-2011, 22:40
The floor is of a different type, it has some minor PU content.
Franco

Thanks. Is it 100% waterproof?

Echraide
10-27-2011, 22:47
I've been away. Did we change our minds about the SMD Skyscape? Surprised nobody has mentioned it. I love mine. Looks like they finally released the cuben version -- the guy did say that price was no object. It meets all his requirements (including room for 2 if they're cuddly). 15 oz. http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/

What's the reason the rain fly is so high off the ground?

Franco
10-29-2011, 18:20
100% waterproof ?
No tent fabric is...
Some will quote a waterhead with their fabric . (800mm,1200mm,2000mm and so on...)
And what that means is that when the water pressure exceed that level it cease to be waterproof.
In reality the pressure tests do not correspond to the way rain falls and affect surface tension . That is, you don't have 1 or 2 meters of a solid corner to corner column of water above your tent nor that under your knees.
(BTW, note that reports of getting moisture through the floor and never having that can apply to the same shelter. The difference is the weight of the owner, the location* and of course if you use a mat , and what type, or not inside the shelter. Just like a car can be small or spacious according to your size...)
A better test would be just sprinklers overhead simulating rainfall.
This is how another manufacturer I have dealt with does it :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8nqicvJuUs&feature=channel
So TT call the silnylon used for the floor to be " waterproof in normal operating conditions", the same way your house is probably wind and rain proof unless of course you have an hurricane coming your way...

BTW, there are two types of 1.1oz silnylon (before coating) available in the US. The one we use for the floor has a bit more of a PU mix in it making it a bit more waterproof but slightly less tear proof .
Others use this for the fly too .
Franco
* as for location, take note where tarp campers set up their floorless shelters.

Papa D
10-29-2011, 18:33
MSR Carbon Reflex is my favorite tent - it might be a touch over 40 ounces packed.

GuyMonday
10-29-2011, 19:56
I'm curious to hear a little more about Z-Pack shelters, but if I'm going to pay that much, Hyperlite sounds like it has the crowd behind it.

I'm more of a cheap-tent/tarp-tenter, and have always just replaced cheap tents/tarp after I wear them out. I've never invested that much in a tent (always in my bags), so I have to ask... what's the durability like on all of these? Am I going to punch a hole in the bottom of one the first time I throw it over a little rock? Are a few bad storms going to wreak havoc on the screens?

Tinker
10-29-2011, 21:35
I'm curious to hear a little more about Z-Pack shelters, but if I'm going to pay that much, Hyperlite sounds like it has the crowd behind it.

I'm more of a cheap-tent/tarp-tenter, and have always just replaced cheap tents/tarp after I wear them out. I've never invested that much in a tent (always in my bags), so I have to ask... what's the durability like on all of these? Am I going to punch a hole in the bottom of one the first time I throw it over a little rock? Are a few bad storms going to wreak havoc on the screens?

Here's a good design at a fair price. http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/tents/SkyscapeScout.html

GuyMonday
10-30-2011, 22:45
That's awesome, thanks for the link. I started looking around Six Moon Designs' site and found this (http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/tarps/GatewoodCape.html) one too. I like the dual purpose

Tramp
04-06-2012, 01:23
Quest outfitters has one you can sew yourself. Can't put up link with this phone, just google them. That is if you can sew or know someone who can. I kinda like it.