new record attempt

[Lone Wolf]

http://cumberlink.com/news/local/article_6851372c-fe34-11e0-9861-001cc4c03286.html

no way he'll "shatter" the record unassisted

[4eyedbuzzard]

Best quote I can recall on similar plans: "I bet against him". :D

Aside from that, the article is mistaken in suggesting he average 60 mpd. If he looks to break JPD's record by 4 days, he will need to hike 2180 miles/43.5 days = 50 mpd (roughly). Starting in late Nov thru western ME and NH. Yeah, good luck with that.

[Doc Mike]

Best of luck to him. I think however he will run into a large storm of reality. His odds of beating her record unassisted at this time of year is less than 1%.

[FatMan]

Lost his job...lost his fiance....leaving Nov 10....lost his mind.

[Tinker]

......................Ho, hum........................(yawn)................. .......yet another......................."world beater"..........................wannabe................. ........Immediatly upon completing his quest he will set out in search of............................................a life?

:rolleyes:

I hope he enjoys his hike..........

[4eyedbuzzard]

Not surprising though, it's about the right time of year for the next batch of "record attempts" to start coming out of the woodwork.

[Jefe]

He won't make it out of the 100 mile wilderness. My prediction.

[Feral Bill]

[QUOTE= His odds of beating her record unassisted at this time of year is less than 1%.[/QUOTE] That seems WAY optimistic to me.

[weary]

He'll be lucky to make it to the summit of Katahdin, right alone Springer.

[Tinker]

Not surprising though, it's about the right time of year for the next batch of "record attempts" to start coming out of the woodwork.

If (when) he fails he can always blame the weather :rolleyes:.

[clsvideo]

He ain't breaking any records with a 32 pound pack. You need to be an ultralighter with like an 8 pound pack to have a chance. I guess that's probably mostly food though. I bet he bails at less than half way. But yeah, that is a bad time of year to start a south bound.

[Malto]

Help me out here...... How does someone only resupply twice and carry a 33 lb pack? Lets say he has a 5lb. base weight, very unlikely, and that each leg is 14 days giving him a 42 day shattering. That would leave him with 28 lbs of food or 2 lbs a day. No way he will do that kind of mileage with that heavy of pack on 2lbs a day. I also question the wisdom of only two resupplies, why?

[clsvideo]

Help me out here...... How does someone only resupply twice and carry a 33 lb pack? Lets say he has a 5lb. base weight, very unlikely, and that each leg is 14 days giving him a 42 day shattering. That would leave him with 28 lbs of food or 2 lbs a day. No way he will do that kind of mileage with that heavy of pack on 2lbs a day. I also question the wisdom of only two resupplies, why?

Sounds like he is running off of emotion right now and hasn't really thought it through.

[ChinMusic]

When did Wild Cowboy move?

[Serial 07]

boring......

[Tinker]

When did Wild Cowboy move?

Unlike the true Santa Claus and talking M&Ms, I doubt that Wild Cowboy ever existed. ;)

[rhjanes]

It's 28 degrees, wind chill 17, and snow on top of Mt Washington. Right now. In a few weeks, might be impassable for a few days at a time (on foot). "Smash" record?

[Slo-go'en]

The guy hasn't a clue and is delusional. Apparently, he's never hiked in ME/NH and definately not this time of year. There is already snow accumulating on the summits around here. Time to move on, nothing to see here.

[WWB]

I was in the Army and can finish the AT in 40 days with one resupply.

[The Cleaner]

He'll be lucky to make it to the summit of Katahdin, right alone Springer. + 1 on your take...:eek:

[RevLee]

The article has a link to his gear list. It lists a 20 degree bag and a hammock, but no pad or underquilt. He must not be planning on sleeping much.

[Slo-go'en]

He'll be lucky to make it to the summit of Katahdin, right alone Springer.

Since winter rules now apply, it's unlikely he will even be allowed to summit Katahdin.

[The Cleaner]

Has anyone checked his gear list link on the news story?That tells the begining to his end right there....

[The Cleaner]

The article has a link to his gear list. It lists a 20 degree bag and a hammock, but no pad or underquilt. He must not be planning on sleeping much. Looks like He's going stoveless too:eek:......

[Mountain Mike]

What a gear list! 2 emergency blankets? About only record I see him breaking is quickest failure. I doubt rangers will even let him up Katahdin!

[BobTheBuilder]

The psychology involved here is kind of interesting. Not only is he going to fail, he set the bar so absurdly high that he will fail spectacularly. He's got to know this, deep inside. Why go public? Is it just a plea for help? Is he punishing himself for his other failures, like some sort of ego-masochism?

MRE applesauce?

[Sarcasm the elf]

I had left a comment that poked fun of this gentleman before reading the whole article. Now that I finished reading it I don't think there's anything funny that I want to say about his seriously flawed plan. I just hope this guy comes to his senses and doesn't get himself killed.

[rotorbrent]

I guess he dosen't know that Baxter State Park is closed for camping until winter camping season Dec 1st.

[Jim Adams]

I guess he dosen't know that Baxter State Park is closed for camping until winter camping season Dec 1st.

If he does 60 miles / day, he won't need to camp in Baxter...he will be in Monson in less than 2 days!............................................. ............LOLOLOLOLOLOL, yeah right.

geek

[Slo-go'en]

Has anyone checked his gear list link on the news story?That tells the begining to his end right there....

I missed that. Man, he really doesn't have a clue. Coleman pack, PVC rain gear, MRE's for food and not nearly enough, no warm clothes to speak of. That's a gear list for a suicide hike.

[clsvideo]

I missed that. Man, he really doesn't have a clue. Coleman pack, PVC rain gear, MRE's for food and not nearly enough, no warm clothes to speak of. That's a gear list for a suicide hike.

I thought the same thing when I saw those items. I seriously hope he doesn't kill himself.

[ki0eh]

A 5 inch knife too?

[Jim Adams]

well the good news is that with that clothing, he WILL be walking fast.

geek

[Spokes]

http://cumberlink.com/news/local/article_6851372c-fe34-11e0-9861-001cc4c03286.html

no way he'll "shatter" the record unassisted

He's going East to West right?

[k2basecamp]

They'll print anything in the papera today !

[Donde]

You would think the paper would do a touch of research to establish the credibility of a story before running it. This joker is going nowhere until he does some research on those secret AT Thru hiker skills like, looking up a weather report. In related news I will be taking my new found love of barefoot running to the next by running the perimeter of the polar ice caps at sub 6 minute miles unsupported and unshod.

Athos

[Sarcasm the elf]

You would think the paper would do a touch of research to establish the credibility of a story before running it. This joker is going nowhere until he does some research on those secret AT Thru hiker skills like, looking up a weather report. In related news I will be taking my new found love of barefoot running to the next by running the perimeter of the polar ice caps at sub 6 minute miles unsupported and unshod. Congrats! Will you be keeping a trail journal?

[Donde]

Of course I will be logging into trailjournals daily from the 1998 Dell Family PC that I will carry with me

[Slo-go'en]

You would think the paper would do a touch of research to establish the credibility of a story before running it. Athos

Well, the reporter did talk to the ATC and while they didn't quite come out and call the guy an idiot, they did imply that his chances were pretty slim.

[Donde]

I'm bothered by the behavior of the ATC or of the guy himself, but a simple look at as weak a source as Wikipedia should have established that this was not fit to print.

[SassyWindsor]

Sounds like trolling to me.

[hikerboy57]

cant wait for the first trip report:"Lost snowshoe at abol, went home."

[SouthMark]

You have got to be kidding me!!! Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

[Kookork]

He seems to be pissed off for some reasons, possibly a lost job and lost fiance is adding to it and he needs a Move.

they mentionedhim army veteran os he might have an army mentality: things like when he says like I am unbreakable, I thrive where others quit shows he has that mentality.

I prefer to use these kinds of statements after an achievemnt not before it. many times when I say things like I have an Iron willpower comes beneath this raliy that in my deepest thoughts I hope like that but want to test it .

he seemed the same to me he is searching for the power he think he has and who knows better than him ? . If he just wanted to fast thru hike the AT, then I had no problem with his decision and attempt.

worst case scenario it was an unsuccessful ambitious attempt but the way he is talking he might hurt himself in a very akward situation when it is TOO LATE to save his life. If you race a racing horse and do not stop him he runs and runs until his heart stops . They do not show the sign of fatigue untill it is too late. If he is that wise to pull the plug before it is too late then I just call it ambitious and dangerous but it seems almost none of you guys that knows the trail and terrain give him a chance to even finish. I give him that.

[BabySue]

I was in the Coast Guard & I'm going to swim the trail in 40 days and 40 nights.

[hikerboy57]

I was in the Coast Guard & I'm going to swim the trail in 40 days and 40 nights.when do you sleep?

[clsvideo]

it seems almost none of you guys that knows the trail and terrain give him a chance to even finish. I give him that.

I think most of us would give him a chance if he was properly prepared. Just one look at his pack list = inexperienced = fail. It doesn't seem he has any real backpacking experience and he is tackling one of the toughest trails in the world in a ridiculous amount of time.

[hikerboy57]

i cant imagine trying to traverse the whites in winter with the huts closed. he better be praying for an abnormally long and warm indian summer, or he better have extensive mountaineering experience.nothing like cold tuna and a granola bar at -20.

[Feral Bill]

when do you sleep? Swimming in circles like a dolphin I would guess.

[silverscuba22]

clsvideo,
He could surprise us all, but the odds are SOO agaisnt him. one good snow storm and he is done. from what i see, it looks like he has not done much hiking( navy does not mean anything) his packing list is a joke.... most non-hikers have no idea what 30 miles in day means let alone 50 or 60. i was infrantry for 8 years, and during EIB we had to ruck 35+ pounds 12miles in 3 hours, not the hardest thing in the world but try doing that 5 times in the same day lol.... i really dont think this guy has thought this out.... i think he is down on his luck and lookin for some attention.

[earlyriser26]

No, he couldn't suprise us all, unless you mean that he hikes the whole state of Maine. I would be shocked if he does that.

clsvideo,
He could surprise us all, but the odds are SOO agaisnt him. one good snow storm and he is done. from what i see, it looks like he has not done much hiking( navy does not mean anything) his packing list is a joke.... most non-hikers have no idea what 30 miles in day means let alone 50 or 60. i was infrantry for 8 years, and during EIB we had to ruck 35+ pounds 12miles in 3 hours, not the hardest thing in the world but try doing that 5 times in the same day lol.... i really dont think this guy has thought this out.... i think he is down on his luck and lookin for some attention.

[hikerboy57]

Current summit conditions on Mt Washington:

Temperature25.8°F


Wind67.1 mph


Direction277° (W)


Gust72.5 mph


Wind Chill3.3°F


Tuesday 7:30 AM
http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/viewmore.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/)

[Gray_Ghost]

I certainly wish him the best of luck in his endeavor. I don't think that anybody has mentioned that the Kennebec Ferry is closed for the winter.

[hikerboy57]

"climb every mountain, ford every stream, follow every rainbow, die of exposure.

[Lyle]

Couldn't care less.

I hate seeing all the attention these stunts get. That's all they are, attention-seeking stunts Like some recent political figures I could mention.:)

[Buffalo Skipper]

"climb every mountain, ford every stream, follow every rainbow, die of exposure.

Proof of the benefits of natural selection.

[The Solemates]

funniest comment so far - i was balling!

[The Solemates]

Maybe he can get some Stimulus Money to fund this sure to fail venture ;)

funniest comment so far - i was balling!

[The Solemates]

not sure what happened there...

[jersey joe]

Yeah, this attempt is a head scratcher. I would give this kid a 2% chance if he was leaving in June. Now? Almost zero. It might be a 10 hour day up and down Katahdin to start and end his hike.

[4eyedbuzzard]

Just another in a long list that have big dreams and no clue as to the reality or difficulty of what they propose. He'll be lucky to make Hanover in 43 days this time of year, never mind Springer.

[rotorbrent]

I do not think he will "shatter" any AT speed record but sure sounds like a good one for the 2011 "Darwin Award"

[Sarcasm the elf]

Just another in a long list that have big dreams and no clue as to the reality or difficulty of what they propose. He'll be lucky to make Hanover in 43 days this time of year, never mind Springer."Dreams are like rainbows. Only idiots chase them."

[Blissful]

He'll be lucky to make it to the summit of Katahdin, right alone Springer.

Very true. That will be an eye opener right there.

He should just wait next year and do it with more favorable conditions.

[Blissful]

Yeah, this attempt is a head scratcher. I would give this kid a 2% chance if he was leaving in June. Now? Almost zero. It might be a 10 hour day up and down Katahdin to start and end his hike.

Well, I feel better as that's the time it took me on my SOBO to do K. :)

[Blissful]

I like this statement in the article:

"Most people want to complete it [the Appalachian Trail] and have a wonderful, meaningful experience," Sickley said. "We don't officially recognize speed records. The trail is out there for contemplation and enjoyment. The only recognition is completion."

[Jeff]

It would be refreshing if these speed hikers would wait and talk to the press AFTER their hike.

[4eyedbuzzard]

It would be refreshing if these speed hikers would wait and talk to the press AFTER their hike.Yeah, but then I'd miss out on all the fun of firing up their cheerleaders.

[hikerboy57]

Im waiting for LW to say"its just postholing!"

[bamboo bob]

I will purposely not remember his name. But i wonder why I dislike turning backpacking into a competitive sport so much. Also there's no ball so how can it be a sport. Is this guy a hoax. the 100 miles in November can be mainly snow and it wont be warm. It must be a hoax.

[bamboo bob]

Also it will be DARK out !

[BobTheBuilder]

Also it will be DARK out ! He must have read The Night Before Christmas - "The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow, gave the luster of mid-day to objects below."

[sloger]

I guess my AT trail maps are outdated since as of this morning the nearest distance between the trail and Shippensburg (his first re-supply) is eight miles, make that eight miles the way the "crow flyes" . . . more like 12 via road. Of course, the Cetral PA section of the AT is rife with trail angele stations in January.

[Storm]

Okay, I've been reading this thread for a couple days. I totally agree that this kid doesn't have a clue and has no chance. What scares me is the possibility that he might actually try it. You would think there would be a way to have someone step in on his behalf. It seems quite possible that he is mentally unstable at this point and something should be done to prevent him doing harm to himself. I agree with the hike your own hike thing but not when it is putting someones life at risk.

[DavidNH]

my money says this nut doesn't even get out of the state of Maine. he is clueless as to what awaits him. He hasn't got a prayer.

[Elder]

Okay, It seems quite possible that he is mentally unstable ...
and this is different from many other hikers how? unrealistic expectations and no clue to the realities?
Sounds vaguely familiar.

[Roland]

Help me out here...... How does someone only resupply twice and carry a 33 lb pack?

He won't have to carry any meat. He'll be busy eating crow.

[Tinker]

Yeah, but then I'd miss out on all the fun of firing up their cheerleaders.

Jeerleaders is more like it. ;)

[bobqzzi]

I can't believe all the nay sayers denigrating this hiker's dream. None of you know he can't do this! All he needs is determination and a dream. Don't any of you have dreams? It doesn't even look that difficult- he only has to hike 3mph for 16 hours a day. How hard can that be?

[4eyedbuzzard]

I will purposely not remember his name. But i wonder why I dislike turning backpacking into a competitive sport so much. Also there's no ball so how can it be a sport. Is this guy a hoax. the 100 miles in November can be mainly snow and it wont be warm. It must be a hoax.It isn't really the 100 mile wilderness that's the big problem. The 100 mile can at least reasonably be hiked this time of year, and at a decent pace. It's what comes starting with the Kennebec and continuing another 300 miles or so south that's the really big problem.

[Miami Joe]

Someone with more experience on the trail than me should contact the writer of this article in an attempt to send this kid an email and give him some sound advice. He shouldn't be trying to "break records" because that's not the point of the AT. He needs only to put one foot in front of the other, take time and reflect. He has a great opportunity to change his perspective on life with a thru. Life is tough and throws you many so problems -- lost job, lost wife/husband, etc... -- but if you're persistent and just focus on getting to that next shelter along the trail, then things tend to take care of themselves and you're better for it in the end.

[ChinMusic]

he shouldn't be trying to "break records" because that's not the point of the at.

hyoh ..................

[Big Dawg]

hello, my name is Forrest, Forrest Gump!

[jburgasser]

there's no ball so how can it be a sport.

Bamboo Bob, are you saying racing the Boston Marathon is not a sport? That high school wrestling is not a sport? What about track?

[Lone Wolf]

He shouldn't be trying to "break records" because that's not the point of the AT. thru-hiking the trail is not the "point" of the AT either but it's applauded

[Pedaling Fool]

thru-hiking the trail is not the "point" of the AT either but it's applaudedDamn, that's a very good point.

[4eyedbuzzard]

I don't think it's so much that people want to challenge / prove themselves by speed hiking that annoys many people. It's the self-promotion and bragging before they even set foot on the trail that does. It's one thing if JPD or AS or someone else with a proven record of LD speed hiking success promotes their next challenge, as the challenge is usually well thought out and hence the hiking community believes they have a legimate shot. But when someone who has never even done a week long hike at anywhere near the mileage per day proposed starts shooting off their mouth and proposing absurd goals that they will easily achieve, it's a different story, and it draws the criticism it deserves.

Hike first, brag later.

[beakerman]

well said. I wish this dude luck..he will need it regardless of how skilled he is, or isn't as the case may be...but its a matter of **** and hike...tell me about it later when you are at least on trail and on track but say nothing until you have at least started.

[beakerman]

ha ha i love the censor...it took out my "sierra tango foxtrot uniform"

[hikerboy57]

I don't think it's so much that people want to challenge / prove themselves by speed hiking that annoys many people. It's the self-promotion and bragging before they even set foot on the trail that does. It's one thing if JPD or AS or someone else with a proven record of LD speed hiking success promotes their next challenge, as the challenge is usually well thought out and hence the hiking community believes they have a legimate shot. But when someone who has never even done a week long hike at anywhere near the mileage per day proposed starts shooting off their mouth and proposing absurd goals that they will easily achieve, it's a different story, and it draws the criticism it deserves.

Hike first, brag later.Im going to hold a press conference, that with no mountaineering experience, I will solo the north face of everest.
:rolleyes:The bigger issue I have is with the people who will put their own lives at risk to rescue the dreamer.or tell him to read" into the wild", and go quietly.

[beakerman]

i'm sure its been noted already but aren't shippensburg PA and Harpers Ferry WVA pretty close together. As I recall they are only about 3 hours driving distance apart. Harpers Ferry seems to be jsut about the midpoint of the AT anyway. Why resupply at these 2 points? I could see something farther north and farther south that splits the trail into roughly equal thirds, but this dude is hiking almost half the trail on pretty much one supply drop. maybe he better look at a different map?

[hikerboy57]

he better look at a diifferent map- maybe the long trail map or the florida trail map?or the inca road? maybe I-95?maybe he misspoke and its not the AT at all?is there an andalusian trail?maybe he meant to say hes thruhiking maryland?

[dragonfly1980]

So I found messaged him on facebook and here is his response... he is an angry man
Me: The article about your hike has opened you up to a lot of criticism, so I don’t want you to be offended but you opened yourself up with your cavalier attitude. I have a few questions for you. 1. Have you ever done a hike like this before?... (Navy training does not count) 2. Why the AT at this time of year? 3. Do you have a death wish??? You need to prove yourself before you start running off at the mouth. JPD had hiked the trail numerous times before she broke speed records. Have you ever been to Maine? I live in the lowlands and its cold already... the mountains are getting snow. Your gear list doesn’t look sufficient. Two drops? You won’t make it out of the 100 mile wilderness with enough supplies. The Kennebec ferry is closed. There are fords in the 100 mile. 20 degree sleeping bag... its 17 already in the whites. People die in the whites. Do you have the trail maps? I am not only worried about your well being but mostly about the search and rescue people that might have to risk their lives to save you. Go on whiteblaze.net if you haven’t already. Get tips, advice, the trail is a wonderful place but it is not to be underestimated. It is challenging and many have an do not make it. Make you’re bold statements after you finish not before. And do not disrespect JPD... she is an amazing woman who could teach you much... read her book.

Him:First of all, you need to check yourself. You can read a book, congratulations. I'm very happy for you. Second, I do believe there was a typo in my gear list. I have a -20 sleeping bag. Next, you are a typical hater, a peon. Happy going th...rough life being nothing, and accomplishing even less. A follower, never a leader. I have to prove nothing to anyone but myself. But if it makes you feel better( or worse) watch the news in the coming weeks and prepare to have your whole world turned upside down.

Me:but Im pretty sure you answered none of my questions

Him:I have no duty to answer a single question you ask.

[hikerboy57]

I hope he enjoys his 15 minutes of fame before he departs(this planet), but this all does remind me of "into the wild".I will look for news stories, although Ill be checking the obit pages first.ironic that he has nothing to prove but to himself, yet feels the need to publicize his folly.
To heck with reality, I have a dream!

[clsvideo]

Wow! Thanks for going out of your way to contact him. He is totally clueless and mad at the world. I do hope he gets out alive and that noone dies trying to save his sorry behind.

[silverscuba22]

this guy is just dumb, i see him going about 30 miles in about 3 days and then "hurting a knee or ankle" and then saying he will break it next summer and we will never hear from him again.

[quilteresq]

Not me! I see him either dying out there or needing rescue at the very least!

[clsvideo]

I just "liked" his page on Facebook. So far with me he only has 2 followers and no positive comments. Just hopes for his safe return.

[dragonfly1980]

I refuse to like him... but you can still post :)

[Jefe]

May he RIP in the snow and cold until the early summer when a Real Thru finds his decomposing body and may no SAR personnel even attempt to recover his frozen corpse.

[dragonfly1980]

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Matthew Huffman (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Matthew-Huffman/204926532912676) I have done research. And there are trails around the kennebec. And although my gear list doesn't reflect it, I have plenty of synthetic warm weather gear, and a boatload of survival skills.



Now... I am not a thru-hiker BUT doesn't it negate it if you blue blaze????

[Jefe]

Well, first of all, hyoh, but a lot of people wouldn't recognize it as a true Thru. The thing is all records are unofficial, so even if he could pull off something like going SOBO starting at the dead of New England winter and beating the time it took JPD to do it, it is still for nothing more than bragging rights. This Squid is nuts.

[silverscuba22]

i see this guy starting nov 10th and then just disapearing for a month and then just "showing up" at springer saying he broke the record.

[hikerboy57]

some people say" cant", others say "can do".I agree with the former.

[clsvideo]

Here's my post and his response.

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Seriously. I wish you the best but do not think you have properly researched or prepared. This is not the time of year to leave on a south bound thru-hike. I just pray you come back alive.Like · · 34 minutes ago ·




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[URL="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Matthew-Huffman/204926532912676"]Matthew Huffman (https://www.facebook.com/#) Look, I left out many things from my gear list when I gave it to the reporter. I in fact have crampons, an ice axe, snowshoes, a plethora of climbing gear, plenty of synthetic clothing for extreme cold, and a great set of survival skills. I do know how bad the weather is up north, and am fully prepared.

[ChinMusic]

i see this guy starting nov 10th and then just disapearing for a month and then just "showing up" at springer saying he broke the record.
Is Rosie Ruiz gonna make an AT run?

[Don H]

Well, sounds like he knows what he's doing and doesn't need advice. Good luck!

[4eyedbuzzard]

https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277052_204926532912676_89249694_q.jpg (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Matthew-Huffman/204926532912676)

Matthew Huffman (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Matthew-Huffman/204926532912676) I have done research. And there are trails around the kennebec. And although my gear list doesn't reflect it, I have plenty of synthetic warm weather gear, and a boatload of survival skills.



Now... I am not a thru-hiker BUT doesn't it negate it if you blue blaze????ATC recognizes alternate routes when conditions require it. That would mean storms, dangerous conditions, etc. But they still require one make a good faith attempt to walk past every white blaze. What that means is obviously subjective. Blue blazing around a section of trail, say due to floods in VT this year, would likely be okay. But to avoid usual conditions, like snow, ice, cold, etc, in the Whites wouldn't be.

I don't care what survival skills the guy has or even if he's the toughest SEAL the Navy has ever trained - he's in for a really rude, if not dangerous, awakening from western ME through VT. We have snow at 4000' already here in NH and more coming tonite. By mid Nov when he's considering coming through here, the snow and ice will be here to stay and he'll need to have traction aids and perhaps even snowshoes if we get any deep snow early (usually it isn't really deep until Dec, but . . .).

[Malto]

I actually think he has a good chance of making it. He may have a number of things going against him like lack of experience, weather, darkness, insufficient food, bad supply plan etc. BUT he has one thing in his favor that few people know......... He has Tiger Blood!!!!

[clsvideo]

ATC recognizes alternate routes when conditions require it. That would mean storms, dangerous conditions, etc. But they still require one make a good faith attempt to walk past every white blaze. What that means is obviously subjective. Blue blazing around a section of trail, say due to floods in VT this year, would likely be okay. But to avoid usual conditions, like snow, ice, cold, etc, in the Whites wouldn't be.

I don't care what survival skills the guy has or even if he's the toughest SEAL the Navy has ever trained - he's in for a really rude, if not dangerous, awakening from western ME through VT. We have snow at 4000' already here in NH and more coming tonite. By mid Nov when he's considering coming through here, the snow and ice will be here to stay and he'll need to have traction aids and perhaps even snowshoes if we get any deep snow early (usually it isn't really deep until Dec, but . . .).

He told me he has show shoes, crampons and a plethora of climbing gear.

[Mags]

He told me he has show shoes, crampons and a plethora of climbing gear.

I wish the gentleman good luck and a safe journey.

But anything with technical gear is going to be slower by weight alone. Never mind using it. :)

A winter thru-hike would be impressive and perhaps doable by an experienced person.

A winter thru-hike to set a speed record? Another ball of wax.

Hope he enjoys the journey and if things do not go well, hope he can bail out and try something different.

[Slo-go'en]

[/URL]

[URL="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Matthew-Huffman/204926532912676"]Matthew Huffman (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Matthew-Huffman/204926532912676) I have... a boatload of survival skills.

Humm, I aways thought common sense was the most important survival skill and this dude apparently has none. Doesn't bode well.

Well, we've seen this plot played out a number of times already and it always ends the same way ... with a wimmper and never to be seen or heard from again.

[Buffalo Skipper]

Back in 2001 when Flyin' Brian was working on his calendar Triple Crown, he got to Vermont in late March. He could not proceed because the snow was deeper than the blazes, and he could not trek through the branches because he was walking through the trees and limbs, not under the canopy.

[Hikerhead]

Regardless, he's not going to do any 50 mile days going thru the snow. A little snow is probably almost as bad as a lot of snow. I'd like to hear a follow up to this story when and if he makes it to Monson.

[4eyedbuzzard]

He told me he has show shoes, crampons and a plethora of climbing gear. Well, he doesn't need a plethora of climbing gear. And he quite likely won't need the snowshoes or ice axe. He probably will only need traction aids in some places. But you just can't predict what any given day will bring up here. On a day hike or a few days section, you make up your mind about gear when you leave the house or trailhead based upon the most recent weather reports. So if you can't do that, due to being pretty much dumb enough for attempting to thru-hike through here during the transition between fall and winter, you either carry a boat load of $^!# that you "just might" need for safety sake, or you wait for conditions to improve (which you may have to do anyway). Either choice, carrying extra gear, or waiting, pretty much kills any chance of succeeding - as if he had any chance in the first place.

[kolokolo]

Awwww...http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/images/icons/icon11.png

Y'all are just jealous.

[silverscuba22]

He has Tiger Blood!!!!

lol, im not even sure with tiger blood he could make it, but i got a good laugh :-)

chinmusic, who is Rosie Ruiz ??

[clsvideo]

I bet he could make it if he was hopped up on crystal meth. Not that I condone that method, just sayin.

[tiptoe]

not chinmusic, but here's info on rosie ruiz:
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/permalink/rosie_ruiz_wins_the_boston_marathon/

[silverscuba22]

I just googled Rosie Ruiz, i really do think this guy is going to try something like this. anyone know if there is anywhere he HAS to check in along the AT ?? The more i think about it the more i really do think he is going to pull something like that, he has backed himself into a conner, once he realizes he wont be able to make it (end of day one, if not the end of the first hour) i think he will cheat, he seems like too much of a dumb @ss to admit he couldnt do it.

[nufsaid]

Is Rosie Ruiz gonna make an AT run?

That thought went through my mind. At least Rosie only bragged to coworkers before the marathon and didn't go public. And she only bragged about being able to finish. If she had waited a couple of hours before jumping in the race she may have pulled it off.

[dragonfly1980]

well he either deleted his facebook or blocked me... so sad I was hopping to keep track of him and maybe bring him cookies in Monson :)

[clsvideo]

It's the honor system. So there really is no way to confirm that he cheated if he decides to go that route.

[clsvideo]

well he either deleted his facebook or blocked me... so sad I was hopping to keep track of him and maybe bring him cookies in Monson :)
I think he deleted it. I can't find him anymore either.

[clsvideo]

I just googled Rosie Ruiz, i really do think this guy is going to try something like this. anyone know if there is anywhere he HAS to check in along the AT ?? The more i think about it the more i really do think he is going to pull something like that, he has backed himself into a conner, once he realizes he wont be able to make it (end of day one, if not the end of the first hour) i think he will cheat, he seems like too much of a dumb @ss to admit he couldnt do it.

Yeah, my friend made reference to her when I mentioned that a guy just pulled the same thing recently. Only difference is, the guy actually ran 20 miles and then hopped a bus for the rest.

[TJ aka Teej]

He's playing Russian roulette with an automatic weapon.

[Miami Joe]

OK, I was willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt based on the article because I know things can be twisted or reported incorrectly by the media (I'm a reporter). Now, after reading his comments from Facebook (nice job tracking him down, by the way), I have but one word ... asshattery.

[Gray_Ghost]

It's gone, he deleted his facebook page.


I think he deleted it. I can't find him anymore either.

[Mags]

Another attempt...this time on the CDT! :D

http://omails.blogspot.com/2011/10/shane-odonnell-future-cdt-speed-record.html

[ChinMusic]

Another attempt...this time on the CDT! :D

http://omails.blogspot.com/2011/10/shane-odonnell-future-cdt-speed-record.html

He's got a shot. All he has to do is average 4mph.................24 hours/day.

[clsvideo]

He's got a shot. All he has to do is average 4mph.................24 hours/day.

I wonder if they are buddys.

[Gray_Ghost]

LOL. How hard can that be to do 4 mph for 24 hours for 28 days straight. l-)


He's got a shot. All he has to do is average 4mph.................24 hours/day.

[SouthMark]

thru-hiking the trail is not the "point" of the AT either but it's applauded

I'm so glad someone said this and someone that has thru-hiked it too

[Don H]

BUT he has one thing in his favor that few people know......... He has Tiger Blood!!!!

He'd better have SIBERIAN Tiger blood!

[4eyedbuzzard]

Another attempt...this time on the CDT! :D

http://omails.blogspot.com/2011/10/shane-odonnell-future-cdt-speed-record.htmlHe seems to have "the right stuff" - or at least some sort of stuff.

[Jefe]

Omails, I think the O stands for Onion. If this is connected to "The Onion", then it is just a joke. The funny thing is he sounds so much like Asshat Matt, that it isn't even funny.

[TJ aka Teej]

Another attempt...this time on the CDT! :D

http://omails.blogspot.com/2011/10/shane-odonnell-future-cdt-speed-record.html

"Even if one assumes that the CDT is, in length, the minimum that has been estimated (approximately 2800 miles), Shane would have to clock 28 straight 100 mile days,"
Sounds like the CDT was selected based on the ease of the math involved. I predict success!

[Kookork]

I don't think it's so much that people want to challenge / prove themselves by speed hiking that annoys many people. It's the self-promotion and bragging before they even set foot on the trail that does. It's one thing if JPD or AS or someone else with a proven record of LD speed hiking success promotes their next challenge, as the challenge is usually well thought out and hence the hiking community believes they have a legimate shot. But when someone who has never even done a week long hike at anywhere near the mileage per day proposed starts shooting off their mouth and proposing absurd goals that they will easily achieve, it's a different story, and it draws the criticism it deserves.

Hike first, brag later.

Hike a thru and then you find yourself too modest to need to brag about it.

[Kookork]

I have been in ths forum for just one week and this is the second super ambitious guy I see. They both want to break something. One is convinced just the shattering th record is enough , the second :

says O'Donnell, "I don't just want to break the record, I want to take it out behind the Middle School and get it pregnant. It's kind of a statement for me."

is it a norm to hear these types of guys in such a rate or just happened in this week?

[Kookork]

What they both are relying on is their Iron Will . What they need to know is that even if they have no quitting mentality and it stays like that , it is not their mind but the body that quits.
It is not even quitting . They can push it to break their body by the power of their mind.Hope I am wrong

[ChinMusic]

is it a norm to hear these types of guys in such a rate or just happened in this week?

Guys that say stuff like "I want to take it out behind the Middle School and get it pregnant" prob won't do well in prison. THAT, is a troubling statement.

[Johnny Thunder]

I found Shane on facebook and sent him the following message:

(john) Shane, I found your CDT speed-hike announcement and what can i say, I'm floored. Having never hiked a trail of that length I admire your hudspah...but, friend, I worry about the amount of time you've given to thinking about the absolutely massive logistical problems inherent to a North Bound hike starting in May. First off, the mountains the mountains are going to be covered in snow. Also, have you considered how boring it is to just walk all day? When will you kick back, enjoy a beer, and watch a game? Finally, as the product of an unplanned pregnancy I take patent offense to your desire to "ake it out behind the Middle School and get it pregnant." That's just plain mean.

his response was less than friendly:

(shane) Listen, bastard. If I wanted your opinion I would have asked for it. I've received dozens of emails in the past 2 days and everyone of them is the same. Why you all gotta take down my dreams, bro? Enjoy being a sheep. I hope you enjoy having your skull humped in by my masculinity-manifest speed hike record. (not) Peace.

[Kookork]

If he is the meanng of wolf, I want to be a sheep and stay a sheep.

[Miami Joe]

The absurdity continues! The title of this thread should be changed to Asshat Matt and BruisedBrain Shane.

[Tinker]

Deleted and reposted with additional content.

[Tinker]

I have been in ths forum for just one week and this is the second super ambitious guy I see. They both want to break something. One is convinced just the shattering th record is enough , the second :

says O'Donnell, "I don't just want to break the record, I want to take it out behind the Middle School and get it pregnant. It's kind of a statement for me."

is it a norm to hear these types of guys in such a rate or just happened in this week?

It's either a full moon or they've both been drinking bad water! :rolleyes:

[daddytwosticks]

This is all an indication that the end of time is near......:) Happy hiking all!

[SouthMark]

After all, Shane's trail name is "Joker".

[Dances with Mice]

Mr. O'Donnell is a world-famous hiker known for founding a training school in Tibet where he teaches Sherpas to make tie-dyed prayer flags. He holds the second place record for completing the Camino Real in Spain. He would easily have had the Camino Real record if not for his horrible stutter when reciting the rosary. O'Donnell invented the specialty shoes worn by every seismologist in the world. I am surprised at the negativity shown here by the hiking community!

[4eyedbuzzard]

Mr. O'Donnell is a world-famous hiker known for founding a training school in Tibet where he teaches Sherpas to make tie-dyed prayer flags. He holds the second place record for completing the Camino Real in Spain. He would easily have had the Camino Real record if not for his horrible stutter when reciting the rosary. O'Donnell invented the specialty shoes worn by every seismologist in the world. I am surprised at the negativity shown here by the hiking community!Bunch of naysayers just following the herd. They wouldn't know the real MacKay if he was standing on their foot.

[nitewalker]

do the math, its not gonna happen even if the guy was paul bunyan. oops! my bad, bunyan cut down trees.....

[Pages]

[QUOTE=Dances with Mice;1212543] He holds the second place record for completing the Camino Real in Spain.

if you are talking about el camino del rey, now THAT's a scary and dangerous place!. for those of you who don't know about it, youtube it. VERY scary looking! great fun to watch; right up there with the plank walk across the cliffs of mount hua in china!

TV

[Pages]

i believe the shane CDT blog was written by jester. it has his picture at the bottom of the page.

TV

[max patch]

I have been in ths forum for just one week and this is the second super ambitious guy I see. They both want to break something. One is convinced just the shattering th record is enough , the second :

says O'Donnell, "I don't just want to break the record, I want to take it out behind the Middle School and get it pregnant. It's kind of a statement for me."

is it a norm to hear these types of guys in such a rate or just happened in this week?

Kookork, its a joke.

[4eyedbuzzard]

Kookork, its a joke.Actually, that could probably be applied equally to both attempts.

[Old Hiker]

do the math, its not gonna happen even if the guy was paul bunyan. oops! my bad, bunyan cut down trees.....

Yep. Used to be called the Sahara "Forest" !

[Ender]

Another attempt...this time on the CDT! :D

http://omails.blogspot.com/2011/10/shane-odonnell-future-cdt-speed-record.html

I love this guy.

Best. Blog post. Ever.

[Pages]

i agree ender (with the exception of my blog, of course.)

btw, what you did to the buggers was horrendous! so glad you're on our side!

TV

[SouthMark]

i believe the shane CDT blog was written by jester. it has his picture at the bottom of the page.

TV

Yes you are right. Isaid Joker an an earlier post but I meant Jester. He is Shane O'Donnell. He has thru-hiked the PCT and made a very nice documentary about it "Wizards of the PCT".

[Camping Dave]

http://cumberlink.com/news/local/article_6851372c-fe34-11e0-9861-001cc4c03286.html

no way he'll "shatter" the record unassisted

Who cares? Oh yeah: you. Enough to search the web for this stuff. Get a life.

[4eyedbuzzard]

Who cares? Oh yeah: you. Enough to search the web for this stuff. Get a life.
Well, if you google "Appalachian trail" news it comes up on the first page. And I suppose if you have "Appalachian trail" set as a news alert it comes right to your email or RSS feed. It isn't like you exactly have to scrounge for it. Nor do these "record breaking" hikers want you to have to scrounge for it. The "news stories" are all just press releases. They call a local publication and they send out a cub reporter. The hikers want all the publicity they can get. Some can handle being on the public stage, most can't. Many tend to get angry when their plans and goals are held up to scrutiny and criticism. That's show biz. But there's no need for you to get all worked up about those that wish to discuss it. Just ignore it if you don't like it.

[Lone Wolf]

no davey, i didn't search the web. it's in plain site on another AT site. and i have a wonderful life. and this guy ain't gonna make it more than 3 days cuz i'm in the know. enjoy your evening kid :cool:

[Lone Wolf]

no davey, i didn't search the web. it's in plain site on another AT site. and i have a wonderful life. and this guy ain't gonna make it more than 3 days cuz i'm in the know. enjoy your evening kid :cool:and davey. this is a forum about speed hiking/trail running mmkay?

[Blissful]

After all, Shane's trail name is "Joker".

I know I've heard of him somewhere. Sounds really familiar. Wonder if he did the AT in '07?

[rotorbrent]

He has a website for his record attempt. his only day listed he did 30 miles in heading to Maine. A far cry from the 50+ he will need to do in the mountains. to break any record.

http://atrecordattempt.webs.com/

[tdoczi]

He has a website for his record attempt. his only day listed he did 30 miles in heading to Maine. A far cry from the 50+ he will need to do in the mountains. to break any record.

http://atrecordattempt.webs.com/

so now hes hiking north to maine first so that he can take a break and then turn around and shatter the record? huh? where did he start from?

[SouthMark]

I know I've heard of him somewhere. Sounds really familiar. Wonder if he did the AT in '07?

My post was incorrect. Shane's trail name is "Jester". I think that was a different person in 2007, John Gillette, trail name Jester. There also was a Joker in 2007, Dave Herrle.

[quilteresq]

Hiking north to Maine? If he's in MA, and hikes there by Nov 3, he ought to finish the trail by the middle of the month. I think he's just on a training hike. It's snowing in New England right now, probably including MA. A little taste of what he's in for.

[4eyedbuzzard]

so now hes hiking north to maine first so that he can take a break and then turn around and shatter the record? huh? where did he start from?He hasn't started yet. The MA hikes are just shakedowns. MA, even Mt Greylock, is significantly less difficult compared to ME and NH. He states he's going to start Nov 3 from Katahdin [that is very up to chance IMO as it depends on getting a Class I day]. He also states
"As long as I don't run into any horrific weather on Mt Washington, NH, that date looks good to start". What the MW weather has to do with starting at K I don't know. It's 300+ trail miles south, and the weather changes constantly up on the Western ME / NH ridges. And horrific isn't all that uncommon.

I think he's probably starting to figure out from all the commentary from the LD hiking community that he ain't gonna make it, or even come close. It'll probably take a while for him to come back to reality though. Then he'll either disappear quietly before the hike ever materializes, or get injured a few days in, or (insert some other reason). What you likely won't hear is how he overestimated his own abilities and underestimated the difficulty of the hike (especially regarding the time frame / record time). It's the same every year.

Here's a pic from Mt Adams 2 days ago posted on http://forum.hike-nh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4461 that speaks both for itself, and to the absurdity of this attempt.


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[Captain Blue]

What you likely won't hear is how he overestimated his own abilities and underestimated the difficulty of the hike (especially regarding the time frame / record time). It's the same every year.

He is pulling a Samuel Gardner publicity stunt.

Remember him? http://www.theinitiativesite.com/

[4eyedbuzzard]

He is pulling a Samuel Gardner publicity stunt.

Remember him? http://www.theinitiativesite.com/

Yeah. Hasn't posted on his site since July. Said that he was going to give it a go again this year, same plan starting Jan 1, 2012. http://www.theinitiativesite.com/new-plan/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Right. Sure.

What the hell though, with circus sideshows gone, reality TV and stuff like this are the only train wrecks left to watch.

[Slo-go'en]

Here's a pic from Mt Adams 2 days ago posted on http://forum.hike-nh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4461 that speaks both for itself, and to the absurdity of this attempt.


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Yeap, the summits have been looking pretty white the last few days. Not a whole lot of snow here in the valley from this first real storm of the season, but likley put a few inches up high. Maybe more coming this weekend too. The season is starting to ramp up, right on schedule.

[Lone Wolf]

his website http://atrecordattempt.webs.com/

[hikerboy57]

Mt washington, current summit conditions:

http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/sections/current-summit-conditions.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/conditions.php)
http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/deck/deck-sm.jpg (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/deck/)


Temperature8.8°F


Wind57.2 mph


Direction310° (NW)


Gust73.6 mph


Wind Chill-19.9°F


Friday 7:30 AM
http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/viewmore.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/)

[clsvideo]

Mt washington, current summit conditions:

http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/sections/current-summit-conditions.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/conditions.php)
http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/deck/deck-sm.jpg (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/deck/)


8.8°F


57.2 mph


310° (NW)


73.6 mph


-19.9°F


Friday 7:30 AM
http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/viewmore.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/)




Wow! 57mph winds. Perfect for breaking speed records.

[Snowleopard]

Today central Mass. looks like 4eyedbuzzard's Mt. Adams picture, 4" or 5" here this morning. I suspect microspikes would be useful on the AT in southern New England today.

I fear for Matthew Huffman's survival if he really does try it.

The other fellow, Shane O'Donnell (jester) is a riot: "Shane is aware of this, but insists that poor planning is part of his strategy." I think I'll have to watch his movie, wizards of the PCT.

[Odd Man Out]

The morning new today had a weather map for the weekend. It showed snow along a band running from northern VA to ME, almost perfectly following the backbone of the AT. Guess who I thought of.
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[Slo-go'en]

The other fellow, Shane O'Donnell (jester) is a riot: "Shane is aware of this, but insists that poor planning is part of his strategy." I think I'll have to watch his movie, wizards of the PCT.

I think Shane's CDT speed hike announcement is a jest. It sounds like he is making fun of all the don't-have-a-clue-wanna-be-record setters out there.

[beakerman]

i'm planning on a record attempt myself...i'm plannig on bushwhacking from Tierra Del Feuago up the length of the Andes, through Central America and Mexico then connecting up with the PCT and along the western Canadian coast, on therough Alaska and across the Berring Straight into Russia then across Russia, Western China and all of the middle east including Iran finally ending up in Africa at Cape Agulhas. i'm leaving first thing in the morning, right after breakfast, on Dec 21 2012 and plan on being in South Africa before New Years Day.

I'm planning on resupply in Lima Peru and one more just before I get to Jerusalem. My cousins brother-in-law lives there and will get me a fresh jar of humus. Since I'm going for speed I'll be packing light (40# base weight) and doing it bare foot so i don't have to worry about the shoes slowing me down. i also don't want to be slowed down with treating my water so I'm jsut going to consider the source and go for it.

Not to worry you negative nancies...I've got this all planned out and I am well prepared..I'm a Scoutmaster don't ya know so we are always prepared. I've recently had an argument with my neighbor and just need to get out of town for a while to get over this. Wish me luck! and if not go frak yourself you sheeple make me sick!

[Tinker]

Humus doesn't sound too appetizing ;).
Good luck with that speed hike, beakerman. Are you carrying the dehydrated H2O? ;)

[clsvideo]

i'm planning on a record attempt myself...i'm plannig on bushwhacking from Tierra Del Feuago up the length of the Andes, through Central America and Mexico then connecting up with the PCT and along the western Canadian coast, on therough Alaska and across the Berring Straight into Russia then across Russia, Western China and all of the middle east including Iran finally ending up in Africa at Cape Agulhas. i'm leaving first thing in the morning, right after breakfast, on Dec 21 2012 and plan on being in South Africa before New Years Day.

I'm planning on resupply in Lima Peru and one more just before I get to Jerusalem. My cousins brother-in-law lives there and will get me a fresh jar of humus. Since I'm going for speed I'll be packing light (40# base weight) and doing it bare foot so i don't have to worry about the shoes slowing me down. i also don't want to be slowed down with treating my water so I'm jsut going to consider the source and go for it.

Not to worry you negative nancies...I've got this all planned out and I am well prepared..I'm a Scoutmaster don't ya know so we are always prepared. I've recently had an argument with my neighbor and just need to get out of town for a while to get over this. Wish me luck! and if not go frak yourself you sheeple make me sick!

Beautiful! This was a good laugh. Thanks for sharing.

[silverscuba22]

i'm planning on a record attempt myself...i'm plannig on bushwhacking from Tierra Del Feuago up the length of the Andes, through Central America and Mexico then connecting up with the PCT and along the western Canadian coast, on therough Alaska and across the Berring Straight into Russia then across Russia, Western China and all of the middle east including Iran finally ending up in Africa at Cape Agulhas. i'm leaving first thing in the morning, right after breakfast, on Dec 21 2012 and plan on being in South Africa before New Years Day.

I'm planning on resupply in Lima Peru and one more just before I get to Jerusalem. My cousins brother-in-law lives there and will get me a fresh jar of humus. Since I'm going for speed I'll be packing light (40# base weight) and doing it bare foot so i don't have to worry about the shoes slowing me down. i also don't want to be slowed down with treating my water so I'm jsut going to consider the source and go for it.

Not to worry you negative nancies...I've got this all planned out and I am well prepared..I'm a Scoutmaster don't ya know so we are always prepared. I've recently had an argument with my neighbor and just need to get out of town for a while to get over this. Wish me luck! and if not go frak yourself you sheeple make me sick!

LOL i give you better odd then this douche doing the AT lol

[SouthMark]

i'm planning on a record attempt myself...i'm plannig on bushwhacking from Tierra Del Feuago up the length of the Andes, through Central America and Mexico then connecting up with the PCT and along the western Canadian coast, on therough Alaska and across the Berring Straight into Russia then across Russia, Western China and all of the middle east including Iran finally ending up in Africa at Cape Agulhas. i'm leaving first thing in the morning, right after breakfast, on Dec 21 2012 and plan on being in South Africa before New Years Day.

I'm planning on resupply in Lima Peru and one more just before I get to Jerusalem. My cousins brother-in-law lives there and will get me a fresh jar of humus. Since I'm going for speed I'll be packing light (40# base weight) and doing it bare foot so i don't have to worry about the shoes slowing me down. i also don't want to be slowed down with treating my water so I'm jsut going to consider the source and go for it.

Not to worry you negative nancies...I've got this all planned out and I am well prepared..I'm a Scoutmaster don't ya know so we are always prepared. I've recently had an argument with my neighbor and just need to get out of town for a while to get over this. Wish me luck! and if not go frak yourself you sheeple make me sick!

Damn, I just spit chili all over my keyboard.

[hikerboy57]

may have a prblem in iran.check with kookurk

[Spokes]

i'm planning on a record attempt myself...i'm plannig on bushwhacking from Tierra Del Feuago up the length of the Andes, through Central America and Mexico then connecting up with the PCT and along the western Canadian coast, on therough Alaska and across the Berring Straight into Russia then across Russia, Western China and all of the middle east including Iran finally ending up in Africa at Cape Agulhas. i'm leaving first thing in the morning, right after breakfast, on Dec 21 2012 and plan on being in South Africa before New Years Day.

I'm planning on resupply in Lima Peru and one more just before I get to Jerusalem. My cousins brother-in-law lives there and will get me a fresh jar of humus. Since I'm going for speed I'll be packing light (40# base weight) and doing it bare foot so i don't have to worry about the shoes slowing me down. i also don't want to be slowed down with treating my water so I'm jsut going to consider the source and go for it.

Not to worry you negative nancies...I've got this all planned out and I am well prepared..I'm a Scoutmaster don't ya know so we are always prepared. I've recently had an argument with my neighbor and just need to get out of town for a while to get over this. Wish me luck! and if not go frak yourself you sheeple make me sick!

I only see one problem. You don't have a three page website yet.

[Slo-go'en]

I only see one problem. You don't have a three page website yet.

With only one daily update...

[beakerman]

Humus doesn't sound too appetizing ;).
Good luck with that speed hike, beakerman. Are you carrying the dehydrated H2O? ;)

Well I find the dehydrated H2O to be expensive--I prefer to buy the generic dehydrated water instead...sometimes store brands are just as good and I hate paying for a label. Its a moot point rhough because i'm going for speed so i'll just fill my aluminum army canteen up at springs and such on the way...it clips so well on my ultility belt along with my Bear Grylis Gerber Knife.

[beakerman]

may have a prblem in iran.check with kookurk

Look you nay sayer...I told you I have it all planned out! I'll just stealth camp on the outskirts of Terhan they wont even know I'm there. Gosh why do you have to tear down something just becasue youknow you couldn't ever do it because you are not a super cool guy like me?

[hikerboy57]

i bowl overhand.

[beakerman]

I only see one problem. You don't have a three page website yet.

Well I didn't want to be a hypocrit...I posted earlier about not making big press releases and bragging about what I'm planning on doing so I figured I'd scale the media coverage back to just here.

[Odd Man Out]

Well I didn't want to be a hypocrit...I posted earlier about not making big press releases and bragging about what I'm planning on doing so I figured I'd scale the media coverage back to just here.

But don't you need some corporate sponsors to pay for everything? You shouldn't have to pay for this all yourself, you know.

[Spokes]

Beakerman, maybe you could try a new record attempt by drinking only Ensure the entire way? Food drops are so over-rated.

[beakerman]

But don't you need some corporate sponsors to pay for everything? You shouldn't have to pay for this all yourself, you know.

You're just jealous because you aren't capable of doing it yourself. I said I have it all worked out now get over it and quit trying to cut me down! If you must know I already have grant money from the stimulus package that paid for my house and new car, which I sold for a high end mountain bike that I ride 150 miles each way to work on because I'm just a better human being than you are...I do important work at a hot beverage retailer...we support traditional organic coffee farmers in central and south america and are saving the world because we don't use highly processed dary milk...we use all natural soy milk.

[beakerman]

Beakerman, maybe you could try a new record attempt by drinking only Ensure the entire way? Food drops are so over-rated.

i appreciate that input rather than all the negativity I've been getting...but Ensure is highy processed chemical slurry i only eat all natural foods like soy flour flat breads and humus..i wash it all down with reconstituted dehydrated water--not that brand name H2O stuff. That's made by giant corporations that the government bails out. (posted from my iPad)

[hikerboy57]

Look you nay sayer...I told you I have it all planned out! I'll just stealth camp on the outskirts of Terhan they wont even know I'm there. Gosh why do you have to tear down something just becasue youknow you couldn't ever do it because you are not a super cool guy like me?listen, some here have more experience at intercontuinental thrus, and I insist you need to get your base weight to under 39#, 40# is the sign of an inexperienced rookie.instead of dehydrated water, just kill a camel in the desert and you can camel up until the next stop(works with llamas, too).

[daddytwosticks]

I'm stopping for some Dos Equis on the way home from work...stay thirsty my friend. :)

[Blissful]

Forget record attempts up north and this big snowstorm coming. That spells the end for him to start early Nov. imo. He really should just wait 'till next year and be sensible.

[Malto]

Forget record attempts up north and this big snowstorm coming. That spells the end for him to start early Nov. imo. He really should just wait 'till next year and be sensible.

Actually if I were in his snowshoes I would do a hike now. I would start at Harpers Ferry heading south for as long as he could do maintaining 40 mile days. If I would reach Springer able to maintain that pace then and only then announce to the world a record attempt and cherry pick the timing to his advantage. But it seems that many of these attempts are less the well thought out even if the attempter is a super stud. Case in point, SamFox who was just on NBC Nightly News for his non-record, non-completion of his PCT record breaking attempt. But who's the dummy? he found a way to pay for his hike and an entourage to support him in an RV.

[silverscuba22]

Well i think sam fox was raising money for parkinson's disease. so i can kind of see him tryin to let as many people know what he is doing, and it was for a good cause. he had to put something out there that would attract attention to try and bring in donors. and while he didnt break the record or even do the whoel thing i think he did better then alot of people thought he would.

[nox]

Jesters acticle was great, thanks for posting it Mags. Anyone who hasn't seen Wizards Of The PCT should try to get a copy. It's definitely a good time.

[Pedaling Fool]

Everyone has their own clock and yardstick



Time and space are relativeEach of us carries our own clock, our own monitor of the passage of time. Each clock is equally precise, yet when we move relative to one another, these clocks do not agree. They fall out of synchronization; they measure different amounts of elapsed time between two chosen events. The same is true of distance. Each of us carries our own yardstick, our own monitor of distance in space. Each yardstick is equally precise, yet when we move relative to one another, these yardsticks do not agree; they measure different distances between the locations of two specified events.;)

[4eyedbuzzard]

So if I start at Katahdin tonight,
and hike the trail faster than light,
I'll be travelling backwards, in a relative way,
and will summit Springer yesterday.
Right?

[SouthMark]

So if I start at Katahdin tonight,
and hike the trail faster than light,
I'll be travelling backwards, in a relative way,
and will summit Springer yesterday.
Right?

I believe so. Once you could place a phone call in Paris to New York, take the Concord and arrive in New York in time to answer your own call.

[hikerboy57]

I believe so. Once you could place a phone call in Paris to New York, take the Concord and arrive in New York in time to answer your own call.if you start at katahdin, you're simultaneously finishing at springer.It takes , on the average, 5-6 months for your brain to process this data.

[Marta]

I trust that Jester will film his entire hike for our entertainment. I hope so!

As for our AT speed record attempt friend...I alternate between feeling pity for someone so delusional and feeling annoyed at his incredible arrogance. Who is he to think that no one of worth has pitted their bodies against the challenge of the AT? That he is unique among humans in his determination and toughness? What an arrogant twit!

It might be nice to maintain a page of links to the more preposterous speed hike attempts, and to forward that to new nitwits as they come along, year after year.

[Del Q]

Would not wish anyone bad luck, but.................no way Jose. its getting ready to snow in PA, it will be lonely, cold and nasty out there. I was in NH in September, as an example, the UP to Mt Moosilauke is a tough one, would NOT want to do that if snowy or icy, and that is about 2 miles worth of AT

[Mags]

It might be nice to maintain a page of links to the more preposterous speed hike attempts, and to forward that to new nitwits as they come along, year after year.

That's actually a rather good idea. Call it Hubris HQ? :D

[Odd Man Out]

FYI - I just checked and there have been no updates on the "daily update" page since 10/19.


http://atrecordattempt.webs.com/news.htm

[4eyedbuzzard]

Looks like he has a good weather window on the 2nd to climb Katahdin if the forecast holds http://www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/Mount-Katahdin/forecasts/1000 I don't know if you have to preregister to climb or do a solo form this time of year. I know you do after Dec 1 (7 days in advance).

I was out in the storm last night and I wouldn't have wanted to have been up there in it. Hurricane force winds and -20 wind chill on higher summits with up to 20" snow in the southern Whites. All you can do when it gets like that is get off the ridge, hunker down, and ride it out.

[FritztheCat]

Good luck to him. But he doesn't stand a chance.

[Slo-go'en]

I suspect the one 30 mile day he did in Mass was enough to show what an impossible feat he had set out to do and he has already gone home with his tail between his legs...

[topshelf]

I am announcing my attempt at a record, when I hike the AT I intend to take it slow and set a record for the highest level of enjoyment. Personally I believe my record will be unbeatable.

[Buffalo Skipper]

Here is the current webcam view from Mt Washington (observation deck):

14280


Should not prove a challenge for a sailor trained to work on ships in the Arctic

[clsvideo]

I suspect the one 30 mile day he did in Mass was enough to show what an impossible feat he had set out to do and he has already gone home with his tail between his legs...

Yeah and he did 4 miles in one hour. I bet it got slower after that. If he did hold that rate he'll need to do 15 hours a day. Hope he has a bright headlamp.

[hikerboy57]

i heard he bought a man patch.

[silverscuba22]

Is there a Slowest record ??? i might try for that in the spring.

[clsvideo]

i heard he bought a man patch.

LOL, good one!

[Del Q]

Buffalo Skipper - I think that your post ends this discussion, come on, if yu are going to try and set any record, put the chips in your favor, at least a little!

Start SOBO on the AT in November, thru hike, maybe............record.

Fugettaboutit

[Papa D]

I'm throwing in a flag on that play. "The flag of doubt" as my friend Stretch, MEGA '08 might say.

[Bearpaw]

Is there a Slowest record ??? i might try for that in the spring.

Wyoming Skateboarder completed a 354-day flip-flop thru-hike in 1999. To my knowledge, this is the longest hike that meets the "one-year" rule for a thru-hike.

[hikerboy57]

you would have thought he would have just hung out another 10 days to ensure the record would never be broken

[jburgasser]

i heard he bought a man patch.

What a fantastic melding of two completely irritating threads! How could man patch guy think he could get away with "hey everyone, check out this cool new website I found. You can buy a patch. But don't look around the website too closely or you'll find out that it is actually my own website and I'm selling the patches myself." What a doofus.

And this guy who thinks he's going to hike 60 miles a day starting tomorrow?!?! I like that photo from the Mt. Washington webcam. It says it all. I'm betting he has already abandonned his plan and the only people still talking about it are us!!

JB

[Blissful]

Is he starting tomorrow or not I wonder?

[clsvideo]

Is he starting tomorrow or not I wonder?

No updates on his website.

[The Cleaner]

Wonder if he's lost the cheap sunglasses&cheesy look that is pictured on his site......

[silverscuba22]

I love little retards like this guy.... i was in the army for 7 years and about 1 out 10 new pvt's are like this, think they are hot ****. being in the navy and depending on his MOS i doubt he even saw a rucksack for months a time maybe years. i love on his site he seems excited about that 30 mile day... im willing to bet most people on this fourm could do a 30 mile day tomorrow if they wanted... its the next day and the next and next that are the killer... kid had no idea what he was talking about.

[Lone Wolf]

I love little retards like this guy.... i was in the army for 7 years and about 1 out 10 new pvt's are like this, think they are hot ****. being in the navy and depending on his MOS i doubt he even saw a rucksack for months a time maybe years. i love on his site he seems excited about that 30 mile day... im willing to bet most people on this fourm could do a 30 mile day tomorrow if they wanted... its the next day and the next and next that are the killer... kid had no idea what he was talking about.that's why no Marines post or try to do these "records" . it's hard to be humble when you're a Marine. this kid will fail miserably

[Spokes]

Show me your war face!!!!

14309

[Lone Wolf]

Show me your war face!!!!

14309hahahehehahe

[4eyedbuzzard]

im willing to bet most people on this fourm could do a 30 mile day tomorrow if they wanted... I'd bet most couldn't, and I'd double down against them doing it in Western ME or NH.


kid had no idea what he was talking about.Agreed.

[Blissful]

I love little retards like this guy.... i was in the army for 7 years and about 1 out 10 new pvt's are like this, think they are hot ****. being in the navy and depending on his MOS i doubt he even saw a rucksack for months a time maybe years. i love on his site he seems excited about that 30 mile day... im willing to bet most people on this fourm could do a 30 mile day tomorrow if they wanted... its the next day and the next and next that are the killer... kid had no idea what he was talking about.

I did my first 30 plus mile day back in September just in Shenandoah (the whole central section) as a day hike. I wanted to see if I could do it. I did it, but it was really tough for me. And this was in SNP too. I was beat. I tried to average around 3mph, and don't usually walk that fast for hours on end.

[hikerboy57]

is there any new news on this guy or did he already change his name and move to someplace flat?

[Sarcasm the elf]

is there any new news on this guy or did he already change his name and move to someplace flat?

I heard he changed his plans and is going to join Jester on his record breaking CDT speed hike.

[Wolf - 23000]

I love little retards like this guy.... i was in the army for 7 years and about 1 out 10 new pvt's are like this, think they are hot ****. being in the navy and depending on his MOS i doubt he even saw a rucksack for months a time maybe years. i love on his site he seems excited about that 30 mile day... im willing to bet most people on this fourm could do a 30 mile day tomorrow if they wanted... its the next day and the next and next that are the killer... kid had no idea what he was talking about.

That is sooooo true!!! I worked as a Army DS a few years ago. It amazed me how many new recruits thought they were hot *****. Many would brag they were sport stars in High School but on their first Physical Test couldn't even do 13 push ups.

I love taking them off on our road marches. Being both a former long distance hiker and a Drill SGT is a good combination, yea I had fun breaking them down.

Wolf

[hikerboy57]

isnt today the day?still no updates on his site. and his gallery is empty.
Mt washington:

http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/sections/current-summit-conditions.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/conditions.php)
http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/deck/deck-sm.jpg (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/deck/)


Temperature13.8°F


Wind49.9 mph


Direction312° (NW)


Gust54.1 mph


Wind Chill-11.5°F


Friday 8:15 AM
http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/viewmore.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/)

[clsvideo]

isnt today the day?still no updates on his site. and his gallery is empty.
Mt washington:

http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/sections/current-summit-conditions.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/conditions.php)
http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/deck/deck-sm.jpg (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/deck/)


13.8°F


49.9 mph


312° (NW)


54.1 mph


-11.5°F


Friday 8:15 AM
http://www.whiteblaze.net/images/viewmore.gif (http://www.whiteblaze.net/weather/cam/)




Hope the wind is at his back or else he won't get the 60 miles in he needs to get today.

[silverscuba22]

Hope the wind is at his back or else he won't get the 60 miles in he needs to get today.
LOL 54.1 mile winds, im suuurrreee he planned for this lol, you have to remmeber he as a "boatload of survival skills" ( his words)
Has anyone seen him on the trail at all ?? i know not alot of people are out and about he AT this time of year, but on his blog thingy he said he was walking the last 600 or so as a "shake down" hike ( which seems like a pretty long shake down). but figure some hostel owner or someone would of seen him by now.

[TOW]

http://cumberlink.com/news/local/article_6851372c-fe34-11e0-9861-001cc4c03286.html

no way he'll "shatter" the record unassistedno way, besides he is attempting this when the wet season abounds.....

[4eyedbuzzard]

That is sooooo true!!! I worked as a Army DS a few years ago. It amazed me how many new recruits thought they were hot *****. Many would brag they were sport stars in High School but on their first Physical Test couldn't even do 13 push ups.

I love taking them off on our road marches. Being both a former long distance hiker and a Drill SGT is a good combination, yea I had fun breaking them down.

WolfOkay, if memory serves, you have actually hiked this section (ME thru VT) in winter or done a winter thru of the AT. Do you give him, or anyone, any chance of even 30 mpd this time of year?


LOL 54.1 mile winds, im suuurrreee he planned for this lol, you have to remmeber he as a "boatload of survival skills" ( his words)
Has anyone seen him on the trail at all ?? i know not alot of people are out and about he AT this time of year, but on his blog thingy he said he was walking the last 600 or so as a "shake down" hike ( which seems like a pretty long shake down). but figure some hostel owner or someone would of seen him by now.No website updates or reports of any kind. Without a spot, or google latitude, or some sort of tracking, or eye witness reports, no one is going to believe he actually hiked it if he magically appears 600 miles down the trail in three weeks or less . . .and even then, 30 mpd thru ME and NH???

[Slo-go'en]

I really belive his first "shake down" day was enough to send him packing - home. He really needs to apologize to Jennifer. He has some nerve dissing her achivement in public - in a newspaper no less - by claiming he could do it faster, with a pack, at a less then optimual time of year. And then, as far as we know, not get past day one.

[hikerboy57]

I know there arent any direct flights from millenocket to springer, so I still dont think he can do it.

[Mountain Mike]

At 60 MPD he is probably just to tired to post & without support crew has nobody to post for him. lol

[dragonfly1980]

from his moms facebook
Shannon Rinker-Huffman (https://www.facebook.com/shannon.rinkerhuffman)
Haven't heard from Matthew since around 10 p.m. last night... kind of worried cuz he was coughing a lot, he was soaking wet, unable to start a fire, had run out of water and couldn't find a water source on the mountain @ night... not sure what to think!Share (https://www.facebook.com/ajax/sharer/?s=22&appid=25554907596&p%5B0%5D=1399656815&p%5B1%5D=2122728513340) · October 20 at 2:48pm near Carlisle, PA (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carlisle-Pennsylvania/103757346329850) ·




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Nichole Bailey (https://www.facebook.com/lovelyred86) I hope he is okay.... I'm sure he isOctober 20 at 3:32pm

Shannon Rinker-Huffman (https://www.facebook.com/shannon.rinkerhuffman)
ATTENTION FRIENDS & FAMILY: My son, Matthew is leaving for his attempt to break the current record for hiking the Appalachian Trail (yes, the entire 2,100+ miles) He is being dropped off by Adam in North Adams, Mass. on Wednesday 10/19/11, and hiking from there to the start point of the trail and then all the way down to the end!! The current record stands at a little over 46 days... Here is a link to the website he created before he left where we will update his current status, position, share pics, etc.: [URL]http://atrecordattempt.webs.com/.Share (https://www.facebook.com/ajax/sharer/?s=99&appid=2309869772&p%5B0%5D=1399656815&p%5B1%5D=275816752452249) · October 19 at 1:19am

[Feral Bill]

from his moms facebook
Shannon Rinker-Huffman (https://www.facebook.com/shannon.rinkerhuffman)
Haven't heard from Matthew since around 10 p.m. last night... kind of worried cuz he was coughing a lot, he was soaking wet, unable to start a fire, had run out of water and couldn't find a water source on the mountain @ night... not sure what to think!Share (https://www.facebook.com/ajax/sharer/?s=22&appid=25554907596&p[0]=1399656815&p[1]=2122728513340) · October 20 at 2:48pm near Carlisle, PA (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carlisle-Pennsylvania/103757346329850) ·





Nichole Bailey (https://www.facebook.com/lovelyred86) I hope he is okay.... I'm sure he isOctober 20 at 3:32pm

Shannon Rinker-Huffman (https://www.facebook.com/shannon.rinkerhuffman)
ATTENTION FRIENDS & FAMILY: My son, Matthew is leaving for his attempt to break the current record for hiking the Appalachian Trail (yes, the entire 2,100+ miles) He is being dropped off by Adam in North Adams, Mass. on Wednesday 10/19/11, and hiking from there to the start point of the trail and then all the way down to the end!! The current record stands at a little over 46 days... Here is a link to the website he created before he left where we will update his current status, position, share pics, etc.: http://atrecordattempt.webs.com/.Share (https://www.facebook.com/ajax/sharer/?s=99&appid=2309869772&p[0]=1399656815&p[1]=275816752452249) · October 19 at 1:19am

This does not look good.

[silverscuba22]

Im sure he is fine, if you look she posted that on the 20th... on the 24th she posted about her son making the front page of the Carlisle Sentinel( the article that started all this ). i doubt she would be braging if he was still missing. my bet is he in some town with a bruised ego not ready yet to go home and face the music. right now heis in the" its be better tmorrow"syndrome....... but there are going to be AOLT of tomorrows before its gets better on big K, like about 6 months worth lol

[restless]

Im sure he is fine, if you look she posted that on the 20th... on the 24th she posted about her son making the front page of the Carlisle Sentinel( the article that started all this ). i doubt she would be braging if he was still missing. my bet is he in some town with a bruised ego not ready yet to go home and face the music. right now heis in the" its be better tmorrow"syndrome....... but there are going to be AOLT of tomorrows before its gets better on big K, like about 6 months worth lol

The problem is that he is heading north to Big K and then south to Springer with the plan to do it not in 6 months but in 40 some-odd days.

[4eyedbuzzard]

The problem is that he is heading north to Big K and then south to Springer with the plan to do it not in 6 months but in 40 some-odd days.I bet he made Katahdin already and is just holding back for dramatic effect and to build interest. :rolleyes:

[silverscuba22]

I bet he made Katahdin already and is just holding back for dramatic effect and to build interest. :rolleyes:


LOL im sure thats it lol

[clsvideo]

yeah, his mom has made no new posts about him since like the 20th and looks like she's the one that is supposed to update his website daily. No updates. So, looks like survivorman didn't pack any rain gear and can't start a fire. Oh, yeah and can't find that little thing called water that you need to stay alive. Definitely not looking good.

[silverscuba22]

yeah, his mom has made no new posts about him since like the 20th and looks like she's the one that is supposed to update his website daily. No updates. So, looks like survivorman didn't pack any rain gear and can't start a fire. Oh, yeah and can't find that little thing called water that you need to stay alive. Definitely not looking good.

i guess his "boatload of survival skills" was a very tiny boat, a boat that never got rained on or had to start a fire lol.... or find water...... when its raining lol