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theoilman
01-03-2012, 21:48
Really, what do you do when the ground is frozen and you can't dig a hole, and you really have to go? And everything is snow covered too?

4eyedbuzzard
01-03-2012, 21:51
Poop and cover it with snow.

Mountain Mike
01-03-2012, 21:58
Good time to burn tp with no fire danger also so less meww when it thaes out.

Mike2012
01-03-2012, 22:12
rocks can be handy

Bloomer
01-03-2012, 22:13
Turn over a rock if ya can, hence the turn "flop a rock"

Papa D
01-03-2012, 22:14
This is an excellent question - usually, when the ground is frozen (no snow), I try to find a big downed log (preferably one that has started to rot into the ground) typically, I'll lift this from it's spot a bit and reveal softer areas beneath - make my deposit with a tiny bit of TP and replace the log to continue composting.

HiKen2011
01-03-2012, 23:20
S#$^ n your britches. come on, if you can't figure that out, well...........

rocketsocks
01-04-2012, 01:42
If your on a section hold till you get home .If your on a thru,then hold it till you get to town.

leaftye
01-04-2012, 03:44
If it's in thru hiking season, I doubt you'll have problems digging a hole, even if there is snow all over the place. Remember that the snow is melting, and is doing it from the bottom up, so the ground is above freezing...at least during the day.

As far as truly frozen ground...

You could do one LNT practice and smear it on a rock and pack out the tp.

Flipping over rocks works. In very rocky areas I've resigned myself to flipping over a rock that wasn't really big or deep enough, and then making a rock mound over it when I was done.

Tinker
01-04-2012, 07:20
If your on a section hold till you get home .If your on a thru,then hold it till you get to town.

I don't know about you, but I get fiercely regular after only a few days out on a section. :D

I don't mean to change the subject, but redirecting it might be a good idea.

Here's a thought - find a privy, maybe? They don't lock them for the winter.

Of course, I realize that there are shelter areas without privies, mainly down south, but I can't remember any place north of the DWG that you couldn't get to a privy within half a day or less, counting road crossings where there were public facilities within a mile of the AT crossing.
Georgia had a couple of shelters/tentsites without privies, and I haven't done many miles between there and Pa. yet.

I like the idea of moving a log to deposit your own. I hadn't thought of that.;)

daddytwosticks
01-04-2012, 08:04
Moving a log to drop a log movement...:)

rocketsocks
01-04-2012, 08:04
Or better still perhaps one could bring a halloween mask of a bear or other furry wood land creature and just ......pretend to be one,kinda like stick'in your head in the sand .We all love to do that from time to time.:D

rocketsocks
01-04-2012, 08:06
Moving a log to drop a log movement...:)Exactly, leave a pea-ny take a pea-ny.

Tinker
01-04-2012, 08:14
Moving a log to drop a log movement...:)

Constipation: Being moved to tears. :o Oh, I know, I shouldn't have-----

but I found your tribute to the move a log to drop a log movement to be very moving. :D

ALLEGHENY
01-04-2012, 08:28
:-?Depending on the ambient temp. If Someone could wait for the ground to thaw from the heat given up by the "movement"perhaps a cat hole could be dug. Or allow to freeze and pack it out. Leave No Turtlehead.

rocketsocks
01-04-2012, 08:51
Constipation: Being moved to tears. :o Oh, I know, I shouldn't have-----

but I found your tribute to the move a log to drop a log movement to be very moving. :D"Ode to a Turd'

Lone Wolf
01-04-2012, 09:04
Really, what do you do when the ground is frozen and you can't dig a hole, and you really have to go? And everything is snow covered too?dig down to the frozen ground, crap then cover it back up. use a snow ball to wipe then toss it. animals will eventually eat it

veteran
01-04-2012, 09:07
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Newb
01-04-2012, 11:24
Go in a creek. It's self flushing. (just kidding. We all know that's what happened to the Potomac).

JAK
01-04-2012, 11:49
I wonder what the record is for the distance a steaming human turd can melt its way down through snow. Obviously you would want very dry light fluffy powder, and one huge steaming turd, streamlined in shape. There is probably a glacier out there with the answer. Maybe global warming will uncover it.

4eyedbuzzard
01-04-2012, 11:53
I wonder what the record is for the distance a steaming human turd can melt its way down through snow. Obviously you would want very dry light fluffy powder, and one huge steaming turd, streamlined in shape. There is probably a glacier out there with the answer. Maybe global warming will uncover it.http://itsasmallcountry.blogspot.com/2011/06/scat-animal-poop-in-glacier-grand-teton.html

juma
01-04-2012, 16:35
all I can think is that '09 hiker "glo-worm," the navy nuc, who "brown blazed" at least up to NY - wouldn't go till he could get to town.

leaftye
01-04-2012, 16:45
I wonder what the record is for the distance a steaming human turd can melt its way down through snow. Obviously you would want very dry light fluffy powder, and one huge steaming turd, streamlined in shape. There is probably a glacier out there with the answer. Maybe global warming will uncover it.

A turd with higher water content should help.

slims
01-04-2012, 20:39
Leave it next to the sunflower seeds.

4eyedbuzzard
01-04-2012, 21:11
This has turned out to be a really $#!^^y thread.

rsmout
01-04-2012, 21:18
S#$^ n your britches. come on, if you can't figure that out, well...........

The U.S. Marines who advanced out of the Chosin Reservoir (North Korea, Korean Conflict, 1950-1953) in November-December 1950 had to withstand sub-zero temperatures, often less than -20F. The solution to pooping was to poop in your pants - it would freeze before it stuck and you could shake it out of your pants leg.

Lone Wolf
01-04-2012, 21:21
The U.S. Marines who advanced out of the Chosin Reservoir (North Korea, Korean Conflict, 1950-1953) in November-December 1950 had to withstand sub-zero temperatures, often less than -20F. The solution to pooping was to poop in your pants - it would freeze before it stuck and you could shake it out of your pants leg.Semper Fi. Chesty kicked azz there. rest in turmoil kim jung idiot!

rsmout
01-04-2012, 21:29
Semper Fi. Chesty kicked azz there. rest in turmoil kim jung idiot!

Yep. My dad was a U.S. Navy Hospital Corpsman 1/C attached to 7th Regiment, 1st MARDIV, stuck in Hagaru-Ri. He said it sucked.

jerseydave
01-05-2012, 20:45
Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are there so many questions on this site about "how to poop"? Just do it! It should kinda come naturally........ no?

Mountain Mike
01-05-2012, 20:49
So does walking...& drinking & eating...damn! If it wasn't for this site we might all be dead.:eek:

hikerboy57
01-05-2012, 20:54
If your on a section hold till you get home .If your on a thru,then hold it till you get to town.why do you think he goes by rocket socks?:eek:

rocketsocks
01-05-2012, 21:02
why do you think he goes by rocket socks?:eek:actually I'm not that fast anymore,my good friends call me ..........stinky:-?

Don H
01-06-2012, 09:10
My trench tool has a pick on one side that works great for digging cat holes in frozen ground!

4eyedbuzzard
01-06-2012, 11:16
Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are there so many questions on this site about "how to poop"? Just do it! It should kinda come naturally........ no?


So does walking...& drinking & eating...damn! If it wasn't for this site we might all be dead.:eek:

It's just pooping. (paraphrase credit to LW)

Don H
01-06-2012, 11:18
It's more than just pooping. There's even whole books written on the subject. You could write a book on aiming techniques alone!

jerseydave
01-06-2012, 20:40
It's more than just pooping. There's even whole books written on the subject. You could write a book on aiming techniques alone!

I do need work on my aiming, last year I tried writing my name in the snow.......... well, lets just say it ain't as easy as you might think.

4eyedbuzzard
01-06-2012, 21:10
I do need work on my aiming, last year I tried writing my name in the snow.......... well, lets just say it ain't as easy as you might think.You need more fiber

Don H
01-06-2012, 22:01
I do need work on my aiming, last year I tried writing my name in the snow.......... well, lets just say it ain't as easy as you might think.

It's easier if you have the runs!

leaftye
01-07-2012, 01:56
Printing isn't so bad, but try cursive.

Don H
01-07-2012, 15:25
HA! Finally some humor around here!

-Animal
01-08-2012, 07:52
If no rocks or logs can be found- Dig the snow out of the way while boiling some water… pour hot water over frozen ground and wait a few seconds… dig the hole and do your business.

jerseydave
01-08-2012, 11:16
If no rocks or logs can be found- Dig the snow out of the way while boiling some water… pour hot water over frozen ground and wait a few seconds… dig the hole and do your business.

We normal get over a foot of frost up here in the Northeast........ how long can you hold that crap in?

rocketsocks
01-09-2012, 09:33
In the winter I poop in a gofer hole,if the rabbits are home.