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squirrely
03-03-2012, 12:05
I'm trying to make an alcohol stove out of pop cans. I've followed this youtube video exactly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2p9bnOGmSk&feature=related

minus the pot stand.

But the thing won't light. I'm using the Heet for fuel like the video says, I'm preheating it, but most of the time it won't light and when it does it's only for half a second and then it goes out.

Any ideas? Or better designs? I really don't want to buy one and I really like the idea of making it making it myself especially since I am on a very tight budget.

Any ideas, suggestions, comments, anything! will be greatly appreciated.

eatapeach
03-03-2012, 12:15
I have had to preheat mine way more than the guy in the video. If you make a basin with foil, you can put a couple capfuls of heet in it to prime it good.

squirrely
03-03-2012, 12:18
I have had to preheat mine way more than the guy in the video. If you make a basin with foil, you can put a couple capfuls of heet in it to prime it good.

Do you mean to make a basin to put the Heet into the stove?

I've been priming it way longer than the video guy too. Long enough that it was too hot for me to hold it. I had been experimenting with different priming times but nothing so far.

eatapeach
03-03-2012, 12:28
Under the can, like a frisbee, but smaller.

squirrely
03-03-2012, 12:30
Put the Heet on that? I'll give it a try thanks :)

squirrely
03-03-2012, 12:42
Okay, I tried it and it still wouldn't help with the stove. However I notice that that is one hell of a hot fire. If I put a pot stand over it and used a windscreen do you think that that would be an adequate enough stove?

4eyedbuzzard
03-03-2012, 12:53
Make a fancy feest or full size cat (can) stove. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pajkt594Ruw Simplest design ever. Easier to build or replace. Completely foolproof unless you step on it. The Starlyte is also a good little stove if you want a wicking stove (google it and build one or buy one from Zelph)

squirrely
03-03-2012, 16:05
I shall buy cat food tomorrow! The herd will be so happy to get something other than dry food for once!

kayak karl
03-03-2012, 16:25
here's a good site. start with cat stove. http://zenstoves.net/Stoves.htm

Nutbrown
03-03-2012, 16:32
take a gander at tetkoba on youtube. he is a master of can stoves.

RWheeler
03-03-2012, 16:33
If you want to stick with the stove you already built, try making it a "penny stove." After you fill the stove, get a penny and put it on the top so it covers the fill holes. Then add a little more Heet to that, and the penny should keep that fuel from going down into the stove. Light that and it should burn, then once the fuel inside vaporizes, that fire should light the burners, and it'll function like the video.

Or go with the Super Cat as suggested, lol.

Slo-go'en
03-03-2012, 17:54
Maybe your not putting enough fuel in it or need more insulation for better wicking action.

Spools
03-03-2012, 18:09
You are using fresh heet right? I was ready to swear off ANY alcohol stove, I had made them all, and none of them would work. Turns out it was the 5+ year old heet i had found in my garage...:p

Wise Old Owl
03-03-2012, 18:20
All this help and nobody mentioned the missing pot stand - the distance is necessary for the stove to pressurize and mix with the air! 1.5 to 2 inches.... Problem solved.

rocketsocks
03-03-2012, 18:43
I'm trying to make an alcohol stove out of pop cans. I've followed this youtube video exactly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2p9bnOGmSk&feature=related

minus the pot stand.

But the thing won't light. I'm using the Heat for fuel like the video says, I'm preheating it, but most of the time it won't light and when it does it's only for half a second and then it goes out.

Any ideas? Or better designs? I really don't want to buy one and I really like the idea of making it making it myself especially since I am on a very tight budget.

Any ideas, suggestions, comments, anything! will be greatly appreciated.Squirrely, Don't give up on that little stove.If you have made it with holes in the right place,and are filling it with fresh fuel,then that's it .No moving parts or anything to go wrong,just fill it and burn.I think you may be using bad fuel?take a little and put on a non-combustible some thing out side with no wind if it burns no problem.Wind is the biggest problem with these little stoves.Give it another try...you'll be pleased with a fine working stove you've made your and trouble shot yourself.good luck!:)

Spokes
03-03-2012, 18:48
That's a pressurized jet stove type and those need priming. Be careful not to over prime it or your efficiency plummets and you'll burn up all your fuel way too early. Once it blooms, you're good to go.

Drybones
03-03-2012, 19:49
I tried making about all the stoves shown on zenstoves.net and settled on a version of the simple cat stove. It has given me the best heat times, fuel consumption and reliability, and lights right up without priming.

oops56
03-03-2012, 19:58
i found out on the cat stoves not need as many holes in them less on top still works ok and a little smaller holes less then a 1/4 in.

squirrely
03-03-2012, 20:18
I have had to preheat mine way more than the guy in the video. If you make a basin with foil, you can put a couple capfuls of heet in it to prime it good.


Eatapeach, I think I didn't completely understand what you were talking about until just a few minutes ago. I tried it and it worked pretty good.

I also just made a cat stove (the cats were ecstatic) and that worked perfect! Made myself dinner and everything.

Thanks everyone!

squirrely
03-03-2012, 20:21
You are using fresh heet right? I was ready to swear off ANY alcohol stove, I had made them all, and none of them would work. Turns out it was the 5+ year old heet i had found in my garage...:p

It was freshly bought. No clue how long it sat in the store. It burned great in everything else I burned it in. Just not the pop can stove.

Whack-a-mole
03-03-2012, 23:52
I bought a soda pop stove, then saw how to make one on youtube out of the catfood can. The catfood can runs like a top and does great. It only takes a little 10oz soda pop bottle to carry a weeks worth of fuel. Nice alcohol stoves are a work of art.

RWheeler
03-04-2012, 00:39
I bought a soda pop stove, then saw how to make one on youtube out of the catfood can. The catfood can runs like a top and does great. It only takes a little 10oz soda pop bottle to carry a weeks worth of fuel. Nice alcohol stoves are a work of art.

If you want to see one that's especially a work of art, check out the Petal stove (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkW-fhQAZjE). Spokes made a post about it the other day. Absolutely stunning.

grateful 2
03-05-2012, 00:17
Check out this penny stove. http://www.jureystudio.com/pennystove/penny2.html

squirrely
03-07-2012, 12:58
That petal stove is really cool looking but it looks difficult to make. I'm not very handy.

I'm loving the cat can stove. I've made myself dinner on it a few times just because I think it's cool :p I'll be testing it in the field next weekend or the weekend after when I go out with a friend and do this trail nearish me.

Tramp
04-01-2012, 21:27
Glad you got yours working ! I built a penny stove that worked but the fire comming out of the jets is kinda small, what could cause that ? Anybody?????

Wise Old Owl
04-01-2012, 22:53
http://www.jureystudio.com/pennystove/

Tramp
04-02-2012, 21:24
http://www.jureystudio.com/pennystove/
Tks. Owl, looks good going to try to make one kinda like it.