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grateful 2
03-22-2012, 15:33
Are there apps for the AT for android phones? I need an interactive map of the trail I can access and download to my droid. Anyone had any succcess with this? I am tired of carrying both a cellphone and a GPS. Thanks.

SGT Rock
03-22-2012, 16:02
I've played around with it some. I am currently set to try this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.crittermap.backcountrynavigator

You can select maps to have on your phone in cache for when you do not have a connection. I'm still new at this so I haven't figured out everything or how well it will work. What got me to try it was the fact you can select maps ahead of time that yon need cached on your phone and that it did USA Topo Maps which have the AT displayed, although I doubt it is a GPS accurate trail map. I think it will be close enough for most trail work and you can also create tracks and such. I'm still looking into if you can import a track into it so I can use a "latest version" of someone's AT GPS track or other trail.

FWIW I've played with GPS cell phone strategies in the past and find that the battery life is too short for an always on GPS style navigation, it would be better for occasionally verifying your location which is fine with me.

QiWiz
03-22-2012, 22:37
I really like Gaia GPS for my iPhone, and I believe there is a Droid version. If so, I highly recommend it.

BigHodag
03-22-2012, 23:47
I use TurboGPS (http://www.turboirc.com/tgps/) on my older Windows 6 / PPC phone. I noted that Turbo GPS 2 for Android (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.turboirc.tgps.v2) is available.

I created custom map tiles for mine with MapGrabber (http://panshinspace.com/development/map-grabber.html) and pre-loaded the GPS waypoints for shelters on my section hike. You can also overlay a GPX file or create your own.

Two Speed
03-23-2012, 09:19
I really like Gaia GPS for my iPhone, and I believe there is a Droid version. If so, I highly recommend it.There is an android version, and so far it's worked like a charm for me. Depending on how large an area you want available you may want to consider getting a mongo memory chip if you don't already have one. As Sgt. Rock mentioned you have to download the map before you lose your data connection, and topo maps can eat up a lot of space.

One thing I haven't done yet is try to import a KML or KMZ file into Gaia. If that's possible . . . 'nuff said.

Other than that Gaia has been a piece of cake.

SGT Rock
03-23-2012, 10:25
Update Reference Back Country Navigator

I just imported the AT & BMT tracks into the software - easy as pie. It can use standard GPX files or Google Earth files. I think this software might be exactly what I was looking for.

I'm tapatalkin' ya'll

Hairball
03-23-2012, 12:55
I have an Android and I am using the app, "Hiker". It's a GPS, map, and compass. You can also send your gps coordinates to email, text, blog, or social media. I also bought the "AT Shelter Cast" app.

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Hairball
03-23-2012, 12:58
Fwiw, "POYNT" is also good. You can see restaurants, businesses, gas stations, and the weather. It's free.
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grateful 2
03-23-2012, 14:41
I just bought and downloaded gaia on my android. How do I import the AT tracks onto my phone now?
Update Reference Back Country Navigator

I just imported the AT & BMT tracks into the software - easy as pie. It can use standard GPX files or Google Earth files. I think this software might be exactly what I was looking for.

I'm tapatalkin' ya'll

SGT Rock
03-23-2012, 16:57
I just bought and downloaded gaia on my android. How do I import the AT tracks onto my phone now?
I don't use Gaia so I'm not sure. On BCN you open the file with the BCN and it asks you if you want to import the file. Then it gives you an option to import it into a current trip or a new trip. If you are starting the file, then you would want to create a new trip, say AT. If you already have a trip - say you have already got the trail track and you want to add the shelter waypoints, you would select "add to existing trip" and it would then add that data to the trip you are using for the AT. The initial conversion can take a while for large files like the entire AT track, but after it is immigrated into the software things mover pretty fast.

QiWiz
03-23-2012, 17:36
I just bought and downloaded gaia on my android. How do I import the AT tracks onto my phone now?

For iPhone, you send the tracks by email to upload@gaiagps.com and Gaia will send you an email back with a link. Click on the link and Gaia GPS app opens and loads the tracks into your device. Kind of a workaround, but works great. I don't know if Droid app works the same way or not. Ask Gaia support.

Two Speed
03-23-2012, 23:18
Gaia for android will only import GPX format. Easy enough to convert: http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/convert_input?convert_format=gpx

grateful 2
03-26-2012, 14:54
Thanks everybody for the help. I ended up downloading gaiaGPS. Then I went to the ATC website and downloaded kmz versions of the parking and shelter waypoints. I had to convert them to gpx with (gpsies free software) on my laptop. Then I put the files on my android and imported the files to gaiaGPS. Several of the preloaded maps on gaia already had the entire AT on them!The shelter waypoints and the parking waypoints are perfect! Thanks for the help. See you on the trail.

MyName1sMud
04-02-2012, 15:12
I'm thinking about buying the app that Sgt Rock posted.

It seems to be a decent app!

SGT Rock
04-12-2012, 00:06
I've been playing with it a while and have been happy with it. I can download maps and have them available for my hikes and put my phone in airplane mode so no trying to establish connection so the battery lasts long, but the GPS still functions. Importing tracks and waypoints is super easy.

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Pixelgator
04-12-2012, 08:22
I have been using BCN for about a year now and highly recommend. Just for giggles and grins (and because I am a tinkerer) I've started using Maprica and find the GPS location to be less accurate. When I hit the BMT the first of next month I'll be using BCN. In airplane mode I don't think my DroidX2 will have any problems with battery.

Pixelgator
04-12-2012, 09:26
SGT
Where are the map files to download?

Pixelgator
04-14-2012, 06:17
Meant to say tracks, not maps.

Painted Turtle
04-14-2012, 07:02
I find all this very very interesting. BUT I have stayed away from it for one reason and one reason only, battery life. My Tbolt eats up battery life like crazy. How are others doing using the apps and having their battery last more than 4 hours?

1azarus
04-14-2012, 07:56
I have been using BCN for about a year now and highly recommend. Just for giggles and grins (and because I am a tinkerer) I've started using Maprica and find the GPS location to be less accurate. When I hit the BMT the first of next month I'll be using BCN. In airplane mode I don't think my DroidX2 will have any problems with battery.


I also use and like both BackCountryNavigator and Maprika -- and find that the quality of the maprika map depends on the attention of the map maker and the accuracy of the base map...the quality can be quite good. BUT i love Maprika because it lets droid owners scan any trail map and sync it with google maps. i don't know of any other way to get paper maps to be GPS-able. I agree, though, if I could get an electronic trail map that worked with BCN i would just use BCN. Lately I've been posting connecticut walkbook maps on maprika, and have really been enjoying using them. These are only available in paper format. By the way, the Maprika website doesn't seem to list all their available maps ... the droid app does a way better job than the website... and you can add more maps for everyone to use!

Wise Old Owl
04-14-2012, 08:07
Not sure how I missed the thread Media instead of Geography?

Painted Turtle There are some apps that eat battery life in background - Most phones have a battery life App exstender that can be costomized. The Aptiva has a quick page that allows fast changes to bluetooth, backlight, gps, wifi, and something,,,,
The App exstender puts a heavy sleep on the phone at night and wakes in the morning.Its all hidden in the setting's menu So these thing need to be set up. To buy a phone like this and not read the speed sheet instructions is the biggest issue. I get two days with heavy use. The phone is my newspaper every day.


Looks like I am the only one so far that has posted that has Backpacker Pro. and paid for it... I like it, it works - it store little photos and adds a trip log thats stored to the cloud at Trimble Outdoors... At first it looked like I had to pay for each track hike - that didnt bode well - then I found I didn't need to do that. Yes you have to load the tiles of map prior to going.

dornstar
04-14-2012, 17:13
BY FAR the best Android map app is Maprika and create your own using their software. I've made Maprika maps for everything from the AT in Georgia to Busch Gardens to local trails here in Florida.

Wise Old Owl
04-14-2012, 21:42
OK great - don't make me work - post a short cut please.

SGT Rock
04-15-2012, 20:36
Go to my site bmtguide.com for bmt tracks and waypoints.

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SGT Rock
04-15-2012, 20:39
I find all this very very interesting. BUT I have stayed away from it for one reason and one reason only, battery life. My Tbolt eats up battery life like crazy. How are others doing using the apps and having their battery last more than 4 hours?

I'm not familiar with that phone. But with mine on airplane mode and no other appear going battery life is greatly extended. I haven't used it on a multi day trip yet though.

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Wise Old Owl
04-15-2012, 22:38
follow up to the above post of mine #21 - I played with the power app due to my use of Kindle while reading.... I increased the time out on the back light from three minutes to ten... and guess what the phone only lasts a day in GPS only mode. Even when I am turning the back light off when done manually.

SGT Rock
04-16-2012, 12:27
FWIW WOO, I see this as a back up to figure out where I am in case there is ever an issue. I don't see this as a full time on thing for my use. I would consider it a back up plan to real maps since I already have my phone with me.

SGT Rock
05-02-2012, 19:56
I just did a section in VA/WV and tested the app in field conditions. What I found was:

1. To initially get the satellites to track, you had to take it off airplane mode for a few seconds. Once it locked in you could go back to airplane mode. I'm not sure if this is a normal thing, or just with my phone - Samsung Galaxy S.

2. With airplane mode on, it still created a very accurate trace and I could make waypoints.

3. Battery use during this test was about 7% of battery per hour tracked.

I still think the proper application for this is for a quick "where am I" check and maybe for short tracks of walking to make sure you are going in the correct direction, for example (based on reading journals) like when someone is crossing one of the high passes on the PCT and the trail is covered in snow, it could help to make sure once you cross the pass you head in the right direction on the back side - as I have read, it seems sometimes hikers head off the wrong way to what looks right. A GPS in these cases could help.

I think if you want to do real trail tracking and waypoint creations like I do for the BMT guide, a dedicated GPS is still the way to go.

WIAPilot
05-02-2012, 20:51
IPhone has an app specifically formatted for the AT called ATTrails. It's expensive though as each map section costs $1.99 and there are 16 sections so that is almost $32, which I think is insane. It isn't as great by far as the AT Guide by David AWOL Miller, but it DOES show your GPS position as you are hiking up the trail. Also does a decent job of showing the stops along the way.