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dmperkins74
03-25-2012, 19:40
I just got these new boots (Merrills, link below). I was wondering if anyone else has used them. It says that they're really waterproof but it doesn't have a Gore-Tex membrane in the middle. Should I take them back and find a pair that has a specific waterproof membrane? I do sometimes hike in the rain.

http://www.rei.com/product/757555/merrell-outland-mid-waterproof-hiking-boots-mens

Any input appreciated. Thanks!
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Moose2001
03-25-2012, 19:46
take them back and buy a NON waterproof model! Hiking in waterproof boots is the best way to ensure you'll have blisters or worse.

restless
03-25-2012, 19:59
If they work, keep em. They wont be waterproof long anyway. Nothing ever is on the trail.

nevergoshort
03-28-2012, 10:10
The specs are vague, only mentioning a waterproof laminate. Laminates can breakdown and peel off quite easily, especially on a shoe that gets a lot of abuse. Unless you are constantly in heavy rain or hiking through very wet areas, I would recommend a non-waterproof shoe/boot. They breathe much better and dry out really fast when they do get wet. Also they are typically lighter and sometimes have a bit more flexibility.

Bucho
03-28-2012, 11:33
take them back and buy a NON waterproof model! Hiking in waterproof boots is the best way to ensure you'll have blisters or worse.

It depends on what he's doing. If he's taking day trips in cold wet conditions the waterproofing can be useful.

Bucho
03-28-2012, 11:42
Should I take them back and find a pair that has a specific waterproof membrane? I do sometimes hike in the rain.


A lot of us have moved away from gortex footware because it doesn't breath very well compared to the super breathable non water resistent trail runners out there. For instance I'm in love with Merrill Moab ventilators, I also watched the gortex version of those shoes turn another thru hikers feet into a rotting mess until he finally bought the breathable version.

turtle fast
03-28-2012, 12:01
Normally you could use snow seal on them or use a sealer like Nickwax (sold at REI) if you expect to hike in snow...otherwise if it is just for Spring, Summer ,Fall hikes I would not bother sealing them as if it rains your boots are going to get wet no matter how much sealing you do. Looks like a good pair of footwear and should last you quite a while.

Spokes
03-28-2012, 12:47
Waterproof boots? ... Coffee just shot out my nose!!!!!!!

Big Dawg
03-29-2012, 02:14
Hiking in waterproof boots is the best way to ensure you'll have blisters or worse.

That's not been my experience, nor the many people I know who use "waterproof" boots. I use Merrell Phaser Peak, and before that Vasque Superhikers, and have NEVER had a blister.

OP,,, understand that any boot that says waterproof is really just a "limited time offer". On dry hiking trips, I can stomp thru creeks w/ my "waterproof boots" and stay dry. They'll stay dry for a day's rain,, but multiple day rains are another story. My feet never get overly hot in my boots.

dmperkins74
03-29-2012, 05:42
That's not been my experience, nor the many people I know who use "waterproof" boots. I use Merrell Phaser Peak, and before that Vasque Superhikers, and have NEVER had a blister.

OP,,, understand that any boot that says waterproof is really just a "limited time offer". On dry hiking trips, I can stomp thru creeks w/ my "waterproof boots" and stay dry. They'll stay dry for a day's rain,, but multiple day rains are another story. My feet never get overly hot in my boots.


I'm mostly a day-hiker... with occasional 2 to 3 day runs mixed in, so that's all I'm looking for. Some replies seem to think I don't expect my boots to get wet. I know they'll get wet... I'm just hoping they can do a reasonable job of keeping my SOCKS and FEET dry. I'd think a layer of gortex (and some gators) would do that. But since I try to avoid hiking in the rain, maybe I'm overthinking this.

rocketsocks
03-29-2012, 06:12
I'm mostly a day-hiker... with occasional 2 to 3 day runs mixed in, so that's all I'm looking for. Some replies seem to think I don't expect my boots to get wet. I know they'll get wet... I'm just hoping they can do a reasonable job of keeping my SOCKS and FEET dry. I'd think a layer of gortex (and some gators) would do that. But since I try to avoid hiking in the rain, maybe I'm overthinking this.I bought a pair of Merrill boots gtx Perimeter all leather last year,there great,comfortable,and yes they keep my feet dry.I'm pretty demanding of my gear and don't mind putting a piece of gear to the test.One night while it was raining I took a walk,I stay on the side of the road about 1 foot away from where it meets the curbing.The water was pooling and in some spots flowing like a tiny but raging river.I walked 1 mile(25 min.)sloshing and plashing the whole way,just like Fred Astaire? or was that Gene Kelly?in "dancing in the rain".The boots were fine and my feet stayed dry.I like them very much.

peakbagger
03-29-2012, 07:51
I have a pair of"waterproof breathable" new balance hiking boots. They might be good for sitting in a tree stand or casual walks but they rapidly lost there ability to shed water on the outside and inevitably lead to wet feet and tender spots when used to long distance hiking.