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UnfamousK
04-13-2012, 21:29
breaking news! The section of the AT outside of Port Clinton PA is currently burning. :( I live in one of the last houses in town going NOBO which is adjacent to the Fire House.....6-7 additional companies are in route to assist Port Clinton and Hamburg Fire companies. A brush fire (cause not yet know) started just off the trail around 815 PM tonight (friday). I went out back within 30 minutes a large campfire turned into an acre wide inferno. This section of trail is in my backyard, no houses are in danger yet but its still awful to see my mountain burning :( will give updates ASAP

tacode
04-13-2012, 21:47
I think it's forecast to rain tomorrow, but only a passing t-storm, not much precip.

Keep us posted, but be ready to get out of there if you have to!

oops56
04-13-2012, 22:33
Now that is why one must have a bug out bag ready. Mine all most ready put things in every week or so as i think whats next

Wise Old Owl
04-13-2012, 22:35
Well I guess I will have pictures. shucks.

rocketsocks
04-14-2012, 00:40
Well I guess I will have pictures. shucks.Yeah,and a front row seat.Hopefully it doesn't jump the road/river.Bummer

Wise Old Owl
04-14-2012, 08:26
Break out the alcohol stove popcorn popper.

Toby Tobias
04-15-2012, 04:24
IS IT OUT REPLY ASAP:confused:

Wise Old Owl
04-15-2012, 09:08
Yes it was out by yesterday morning

coach lou
04-15-2012, 09:15
This spring expect to see many brush fires. We had one in North Branford, Ct. Wednesday. Thursday you could see the smoke from a large one across the Sound in Long Island. It looks like this weather pattern we have had all winter is continuing. The rivers look great for fishing, but they should be high and muddy now. So maybe, we can do without all those campfires for now.... it makes your clothes stink anyway!

Wise Old Owl
04-15-2012, 09:18
The fire was on the mountain facing Port Clinton. It can't be seen by the road and is little consequence to hikers - the damage was minimized by helicoptor drops and fast response from several companies that worked on it over night....

there was talk of a second fire right in Pine Grove as well.

rocketsocks
04-15-2012, 13:18
This spring expect to see many brush fires. We had one in North Branford, Ct. Wednesday. Thursday you could see the smoke from a large one across the Sound in Long Island. It looks like this weather pattern we have had all winter is continuing. The rivers look great for fishing, but they should be high and muddy now. So maybe, we can do without all those campfires for now.... it makes your clothes stink anyway!I suspect after last years hurricane Irene dropped trees and branches,there is a lot of fuel on the ground in the north east just waiting for the right conditions to become a big problem.This winter has not left us with any snow pack and precipitation is down,dew points are low,the recipe for wild fires are in place.Not Good!

hikerboy57
04-15-2012, 13:20
ny/nj is bone dry right now. we need rain. be careful with your fires.

Wise Old Owl
04-15-2012, 14:09
For hikers this means carry more water before going up the ridge.

Trail Bug
04-17-2012, 08:44
I saw a lot of weekenders in this section last week and most all had fires going. Every trailhead I came to with a board had a sign posted NO FIRES because of current conditions. Surprised there has only been one fire so far.

One Half
04-17-2012, 08:54
People need to be more aware. It's amazing so many people manage to live so long. It has been a remarkably dry year all over. At my gun club we usually burn brush every spring from winter damage, etc. This year they placed the brush pile very close to some electrical wires. This was a huge brush pile. I suggested instead of burning this year, since there had already been a number of brush fires locally, that we get it chipped instead. Some people thought I was crazy. Thankfully the BoD agreed and we had it chipped and we have plans to use the chips on another piece of the property. Common sense people! No fires. It's too dry!

MyName1sMud
04-17-2012, 15:19
Good to hear it didn't get serious!

rocketsocks
04-17-2012, 22:11
People need to be more aware. It's amazing so many people manage to live so long. It has been a remarkably dry year all over. At my gun club we usually burn brush every spring from winter damage, etc. This year they placed the brush pile very close to some electrical wires. This was a huge brush pile. I suggested instead of burning this year, since there had already been a number of brush fires locally, that we get it chipped instead. Some people thought I was crazy. Thankfully the BoD agreed and we had it chipped and we have plans to use the chips on another piece of the property. Common sense people! No fires. It's too dry!My club has a small pond behind the back stops,and still have had fires I,m told.

KnotHere
04-17-2012, 22:35
Hey all,
I know this has been said before, but with the firefighting efforts from helicopters be sure to watch out for dihdrogen monoxide in the water sources.

---Excerpt---

"Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.

Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect."
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!

Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!

The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use."


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KristalB
04-18-2012, 17:31
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My friends and I were walking through the burned wood coming down into Port Clinton. We were camped 2 miles north of the fire the night before. Heard sirens all through the night. Of anyone, we were thankful it didn't overtake us in the night. The photo shows a helicopter dropping water on the woods in front of us. Praying for rain this spring/summer so we don't have these fire scares all year.

Wise Old Owl
04-18-2012, 17:40
"Dihydrogen monoxide" redirects here. For the H2O molecule, see Properties of water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Water_molecule_%281%29.svg/220px-Water_molecule_%281%29.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Water_molecule_%281%29.svg) http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.19/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Water_molecule_%281%29.svg)
Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water) consists of two hydrogen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen) atoms and one oxygen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen) atom.


In the dihydrogen monoxide hoax, water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water) is called by an unfamiliar name, "dihydrogen monoxide", followed by a listing of real negative effects of this chemical, in an attempt to convince people that it should be carefully regulated, labeled as hazardous, or banned. The hoax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax) is designed to illustrate how the lack of scientific literacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_literacy) and an exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-Carder-0) "Dihydrogen monoxide", shortened to "DHMO", is a name for water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28molecule%29) that is consistent with basic rules of chemical nomenclature,[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-1) but is not among the names published by IUPAC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IUPAC)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-2) and is almost never used.
A popular version of the hoax was created by Eric Lechner, Lars Norpchen and Matthew Kaufman, housemates while attending University of California, Santa Cruz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Santa_Cruz) in 1990,[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-3) revised by Craig Jackson (also a UC Santa Cruz student) in 1994,[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-greatmoments-4) and brought to widespread public attention in 1997 when Nathan Zohner, a 14-year-old student, gathered petitions to ban "DHMO" as the basis of his science project, titled "How Gullible Are We?".[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-snopes-5)
"Dihydrogen monoxide" may sound dangerous to those with a limited knowledge of chemistry or who hold to an ideal of a "chemical-free (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_free)" life (chemophobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemophobia)).[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-snopes-5) The only familiar common usage of the term "monoxide" is in the highly toxic gas "carbon monoxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide)", and the simplified term "monoxide poisoning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning)" is commonly used to refer to poisoning by this colourless and odorless substance.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-6)
The joke has been frequently extended over the years. For example, a material safety data sheet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_safety_data_sheet)—a list of information about potentially dangerous materials used in research and industry—has been created for it.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-7)

Wise Old Owl
04-18-2012, 17:48
Early fire retardants were mixtures of water and thickening agents, and later included borates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borate) and ammonium phosphates.

Ammonium phosphate refers to three different chemical compounds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_compound), all of which are formed by the reaction of ammonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonia) with phosphoric acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid) and have the general formula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_formula) [NH4]x[H3−xPO4], where 1 ≤ x ≤ 3:


Ammonium dihydrogenphosphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_dihydrogenphosphate), [NH4][H2PO4]
Diammonium phosphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diammonium_phosphate), [NH4]2[HPO4]
Ammonium phosphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_phosphate), [NH4]3[PO4]

rocketsocks
04-18-2012, 18:33
"Di hydrogen monoxide" redirects here. For the HO molecule, see Properties of water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Water_molecule_%281%29.svg/220px-Water_molecule_%281%29.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Water_molecule_%281%29.svg) http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.19/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Water_molecule_%281%29.svg)
Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water) consists of two hydrogen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen) atoms and one oxygen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen) atom.


In the hydrogen monoxide hoax, water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water) is called by an unfamiliar name, "hydrogen monoxide", followed by a listing of real negative effects of this chemical, in an attempt to convince people that it should be carefully regulated, labeled as hazardous, or banned. The hoax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax) is designed to illustrate how the lack of scientific literacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_literacy) and an exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-Carder-0) "Di hydrogen monoxide", shortened to "DH MO", is a name for water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28molecule%29) that is consistent with basic rules of chemical nomenclature,[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-1) but is not among the names published by UPC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IUPAC)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-2) and is almost never used.
A popular version of the hoax was created by Eric Lechner, Lars Norpchen and Matthew Kaufman, housemates while attending University of California, Santa Cruz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Santa_Cruz) in 1990,[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-3) revised by Craig Jackson (also a UC Santa Cruz student) in 1994,[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-greatmoments-4) and brought to widespread public attention in 1997 when Nathan Zohner, a 14-year-old student, gathered petitions to ban "DHMO" as the basis of his science project, titled "How Gullible Are We?".[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-snopes-5)
"Dihydrogen monoxide" may sound dangerous to those with a limited knowledge of chemistry or who hold to an ideal of a "chemical-free (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_free)" life (chemophobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemophobia)).[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-snopes-5) The only familiar common usage of the term "monoxide" is in the highly toxic gas "carbon monoxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide)", and the simplified term "monoxide poisoning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning)" is commonly used to refer to poisoning by this colourless and odorless substance.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-6)
The joke has been frequently extended over the years. For example, a material safety data sheet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_safety_data_sheet)—a list of information about potentially dangerous materials used in research and industry—has been created for it.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#cite_note-7)There was an MSDS for DHMO?what did say...warning water can cause erosional forces in the gut and build Mountains on your (butt)...dont worry it'll take a million years......that is pretty funny.

Wise Old Owl
04-18-2012, 21:24
I like this part


is designed to illustrate how the lack of scientific literacy and an exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears. --- sort of like snakes, spiders, ticks, shelter mice, oh and bears.

rocketsocks
04-19-2012, 02:01
I like this part


is designed to illustrate how the lack of scientific literacy and an exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears. --- sort of like snakes, spiders, ticks, shelter mice, oh and bears.Suzie was in my chemistry class,she isn't anymore,she drank what she thought was H20,but was H2S04:D

tdoczi
04-19-2012, 07:01
I like this part


is designed to illustrate how the lack of scientific literacy and an exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears. --- sort of like snakes, spiders, ticks, shelter mice, oh and bears.


or "bromine" in drink containers, or dangerously high wind chills, or the perils of hiking children.

Wise Old Owl
04-20-2012, 18:49
Good memory!

Pedaling Fool
04-20-2012, 19:32
Pa is always burning because it has the portal to hell, I think it's somewhere in Centralia. One day Pa will just drop into the depths of hell, but if you ask me it's already happened...felt like hell everyday in that state.:eek:

Wise Old Owl
04-20-2012, 19:51
Pa is always burning because it has the portal to hell, I think it's somewhere in Centralia. One day Pa will just drop into the depths of hell, but if you ask me it's already happened...felt like hell everyday in that state.:eek:

Is that your final Proof and do you have evidence to back that up?

coach lou
04-20-2012, 19:58
Pa is always burning because it has the portal to hell, I think it's somewhere in Centralia. One day Pa will just drop into the depths of hell, but if you ask me it's already happened...felt like hell everyday in that state.:eek:

John, John, I implore you........explore Penns Wood off the AT............it is wonderful. Lots and lots of bicycling opportunities.






WOO... the pic is the same size.!

Pedaling Fool
04-20-2012, 20:20
Is that your final Proof and do you have evidence to back that up?I got more, but I just drank a 20oz homemade milkshake and ate 6 doughnuts and I think my gut is about to burst.

See ya'll later, gonna go lay on my couch and read my book;)