View Full Version : Again Attention Sargent Rock
MedicineMan
12-23-2002, 04:51
http://www.watertribe.com/Magazine/2001August/JackKrohn.asp
some of my paddling buds linked me to the link above, what caught my eye for you was the Vietnam pics and hammock usage, scroll down the screen to find them. You might also find of some interest the modification made to the hammock fly using a spare pole-good for us paddlers who may have trouble finding guyout points.
SGT Rock
12-23-2002, 22:19
Cool pictures. I have found that the Hennessy does just fine in bad weather, but I can see the dilema if they are setting up over water.
MedicineMan
12-25-2002, 00:26
dont know how many people here who also sea kayak but in the last 18 months I was on 14 paddle trips...in its own way touring in a kayak is awesome if just for the fact that once in the water the boat could care less how much gear you have in it....and if lightweight backpacking principles are applied it is very possible to have enough on board to last for 2-3 weeks. I have live out of the sea kayak for 4 days in the San Juans, 5 days in Voyageurs NP and 3 days in the Everglades and it truly rivals backpacking for fun and adventure. In some ways it is even more intimidating when you are faced with 4-5foot chop, 39 degree water and 40 miles to your car...mostly its not that at all but there are times when the tide is rushing in or out and you cant see land.....just another outlet-or inlet to the world around us...
oh, in the sea kayak I can carry a backcountry oven I would never carry hiking!
That is my next big purchase. I am looking into buying a kayak with my taxes this year. But I am still undecided on whether to get a sea kayak or a smaller version that I can use in lakes or ponds. I think that I will be using it in lakes, ponds, streams and river more than the ocean. But I think I would like to use it on the ocean also once and a while maybe island hope off the coast of Maine. So dachonkin do have any recommendations on what kind or length I should look at?
And being a lightweight backpacker should make carry my gear in the kayak even better.
Streamweaver
12-25-2002, 04:13
Alot of fishermen are using sea kayaks for river,pond and lake fishing because of the better stability. Plus more room for gear.Ive even seen guys with bass boats that had a yak strapped on to the back for getting into those shallow hard to reach spots. Streamweaver
MedicineMan
12-25-2002, 06:28
well hanging in my carport are 8 touring kayaks of many ilks,lengths, varieties, on the dock 50 feet away are 3 more and there is one laying in the yard
Decide if you want whitewater-short easy to turn but low cargo cap.
of recreational-hybrids in a way, turn ok, some storage
or sea kayak (aka touring)...lots of cargo, and generally track straight...each manuf. has its specific nuances like weathercocking,
hard or soft chines, comfy seats or simple backbands
Decide if you want rotomolded plastic-cheap indestructible (almost)
fiberglass (faster speed, easy field repair) or
kevlar/carbon hybrids (very stiff hull and even faster, harder
field repair, and more dollars)
I have all of the above and from several manufacturers.
I would say come over and paddle any of them to see what you like 'cept my lake is frozen over! But the point is to paddle as many as you can before shelling out dollars, therefore go to sea kayak symposiums, swap meets, and take a tour. I took my oldest daughter to Seattle last June and from there we went to Friday Harbor and paddle camped the San Juans for 4 days-awesome-she has been paddling since she was 4.
Ask any questions you want, but remind me this is an AT forum, dont want to upset the apple cart....I love both equally well, in February I will take a break from hiking, a group from Paddle.net is meeting for a paddle into the Okefenokee if we can get a permit.
OH, forgot Brittish boats, Finish boats, American boats-more tuff decisions.
Look at the Perception Acadia---good all around boat for little dollars, can even handle classIII whitewater...slow for touring though.
I am out of finger breath!
SGT Rock
12-25-2002, 10:53
That is a sport I wanted to get into when I went to Germany. The area I was supposed to be at now is in the Bavaian Alps, the section is actually similar to the Appalachians. Now I'm still stuck in Louisiana and the smaps here just ain't my style.
Anyway, what would ya'll reccomend to someone that want's to get into the sport? Wait until I get back east to the mountains and do the whitewater, or what?
Wilderness Systems Pungo 140 w/ cockpit cover for one.
http://www.wildernesssystems.com/kayaks/rec/pungo140.php
Great kayak for starting out, for fishing, for lakes, rivers.
Moves along nicely, handles nicely.
I started with an Old Town Loon 138, Polylink 3 construction.
http://www.otccanoe.com/kayaks_recreation.php#loon111Elite
Has tough hull, no cold water cold transfer.
Moves along with "whitewater" paddle like the Werner Quest carbon paddle.
I have straight oval shaft, two piece.
http://www.wernerpaddles.com/
If I were sea kayaking, Epic Large Sprint Wing (eXcalibur III) Paddle
http://www.epicpaddles.com/products/paddles/wing/large.htm
and that great sea kayak Dagger Meridian SK Composite
http://www.dagger.com/product.asp?BoatType=TourKayak&BoatID=190
or Dagger Meridian SKS
http://www.dagger.com/product.asp?BoatType=TourKayak&BoatID=304
There are more awesome kayaks for sea kayaking, for rock-park playboats, and for race boats. I could ask my racing friends. The tsumani rangers have great rock-park playboats. I don't think they would call this "playing" however.
I had to leave the coast, but I never got into whitewater squirtboats. The whitewater safe river boats are more my style.
Packing a kayak, for river camping or for sea kayak touring coastal camping is "different": balance the weight fore and aft, make things accessible (usually long long watertight bags, unless your boat had bulkhead compartments - I use a sea sock) and I would say *volume* is almost more important than weight. Best camping experiences I have ever had, except family camping as a child.
The only hiking is for the portage. I want tough water shoes for hiking.
Hammock Hanger
07-01-2004, 10:22
Wilderness Systems Pungo 140 w/ cockpit cover for one.
http://www.wildernesssystems.com/kayaks/rec/pungo140.php
.
Both my husband and I have the Pungo 140's. It is a great recreational kayak when just starting out. Easy to handle and plenty of storage. We have used it in some pretty open water (love the dolphins & manatees) without problems. Here in JAX we have many rivers and streams love it. We will probably graduate to something a little smaller and lighter someday but for now these fit our needs perfectly. We have done mild whitewater in them, not for big whitewater or tight turns. Buying used is always a good way to go and work up from there. Sue/HH:sun