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Hoppy
04-24-2005, 13:47
Due to various circumstances, I don't think I will be able to attempt a thru in 2006 like I had hoped. (I haven't ruled it out entirely, but its looking less and less like a possibility). But, I am desperately committed to getting out there and doing a section, of about a month's time and was looking for recommendations based on some preferences. I would probably hike in the month of July, I would like to hike with thru hikers, but not necessarily the biggest group of them.

Maybe Maine and head south and see how far I make it in a month?

orangebug
04-24-2005, 14:20
If you are in Moscow and flying here for a month's walk, I'd fly into JFK, take the subway up to the AT stop and start from there, especially in July. You will have the bulk of the thru hikers with you. Head north and see if you can make it thru New Hampshire.

Alternatively, fly into Newark, get a ride to Delaware Water Gap and walk to Vermont - at least.

Hoppy
04-24-2005, 14:25
No, I'll be back stateside this fall, permanently so those logistics aren't an issue. I"ll be based out of VA, but I"ve hiked much of the VA trail so am looking for something else on the AT.

Hoppy
04-24-2005, 14:26
I'd fly into JFK, take the subway up to the AT stop and start from there, .

You can take the subway to the trail????????:eek:

orangebug
04-24-2005, 14:29
Yes, get to Grand Central Station. Change to a commuter train that heads north on the east shore of the Hudson. The AT stop is just south of Garrison and the Bear Mtn Bridge.

However, I think it only stops on Saturdays. I don't have a copy of The Map handy just now to give you the particulars on the train. I think it is the Hudson Blue line.

orangebug
04-24-2005, 14:33
This is why NYC is such a great trail town. It is the only one with public transportation to get you from trailhead to hostels and gear shops. The restaurants are really great, but I've had trouble finding laundramats that tolerate dressing in rain gear.

You also can't buy any canister fuel in the city.

Doctari
04-24-2005, 14:46
Why not start at Springer, go north for as long as you can. Should be able to make north of the Smokies by then without pushing too hard.

Doctari.

Hoppy
04-25-2005, 07:23
Why not start at Springer, go north for as long as you can. Should be able to make north of the Smokies by then without pushing too hard.

Doctari.
While I would love to do the southern section of the trail, intuition tells me that maybe July is not the best time to do it?

JustDoIt
04-25-2005, 07:52
I'm starting July 1st also. I don't care where I start as long as there's someplace to get off where I can catch a bus or something to an airport. I'm anxiously waiting for my trailguide book but I'd rather have the opinion of experts. My agenda is to walk for 30 days then fly back home. (Kansas)

Ridge
04-26-2005, 03:16
July is hot hiking in the SE. I would say start at Katahdin, head south till your time runs out. But Im just a wife of an AT thru-hiker, so I'm no expert, I just know how hot it is here in the SE USA. hikerwife

orangebug
04-26-2005, 06:26
July is the middle of the green tunnel in the south, and pretty much anywhere along the AT. Heat can be a problem, as I rcall the 100+ F days of July back in 1999 when Harriman Park was closed due to fire danger.

I'd start in NY or NJ and walk north if July was my only choice.

prozac
04-26-2005, 09:31
Go with Orangebug's advice. The train your looking for is the Metro North out of Grand Central. The Harlem Line will take you to the AT stop but its just as easy to get off at Pawling, NY a few miles before there. Another option would be to take the Metro North Port Jervis Line to either Tuxedo or Port Jervis. Port Jervis is only a short and cheap taxi ride to High Point State Park NJ. Either trip would probably put you in with the frontrunners of the Class of 2005 but it definately won't be crowded. Google Metro North Railroad for more info and timetables.

dep
04-26-2005, 12:25
I am doing a month section of the A.T. starting in July as well. I'm starting from the metro north point out of the city and headed south (for what I hope to be 300 miles)... Best of luck. Maybe we'll cross paths :)

dep

A-Train
04-26-2005, 15:46
Yes I'd definately hike maine. It's a fabulous time to be Maine. Warm days, cool nights and the bugs aren't nearly as bad as may-june. You'll hike with a bunch of SOBO's and be running into the front end of the NOBO's all month. Lots of water in this section, and heat usually isn't unbearable. Maine towns and locals are great too.

You could also start from Gorham NH and hike north to Katahdin easily in a month, but you'd be negotiating very tough terrain from the first day out. Though you'd get a NOBO perspective and get to have Katahdin as your finish, with the Wilderness as your home stretch. Each direction, you can't lose

JustDoIt
05-21-2005, 21:30
Does anyone have any thoughts of a hike thru the Shenandoah National Park in July? Too many black flies or caterpillars to make it unbearable? Is it very, very hot in July? My goal was to start at Rockfish GAp and head north as far as I can go in 30 days. Would love to hear what the Park is like in July.

kncats
05-22-2005, 07:25
Does anyone have any thoughts of a hike thru the Shenandoah National Park in July? Too many black flies or caterpillars to make it unbearable? Is it very, very hot in July? My goal was to start at Rockfish GAp and head north as far as I can go in 30 days. Would love to hear what the Park is like in July.
Hot is relative. For us here in Virginia we'd consider July to be hot, but that means daytime highs in the low to mid 80's for Shenandoah with nightly lows around 60. Those are the averages, YMMV.

Expect the park to be crowded on weekends, not too bad in the midddle of the week.

If you stay on AT the availability of water may be an issue, there's not a lot of it in between shelters. You can also water up at the campgrounds and stores. As a rule it's plentiful if you get down off the ridge and hike the side trails. But, the descents/ascents can be steep and long. I wouldn't consider it worth it just for getting water. We just carry more with us if we're staying on the AT.

The only bugs that ever really bothered me in SNP have been ticks, and that's just if you get down onto overgrown trails where there aren't as many people.

The Hog
05-22-2005, 08:02
Your idea to hike Maine is a very good one. I would also consider starting at the VT/NH border and hiking north for a month. That is a spectacular stretch of Trail and you would be seeing a fair number of thru hikers.

orangebug
05-22-2005, 08:14
A question for the New Yorkers out there:

I was visiting last week, and got my usual copy of "THE MAP" showing all of the bus, train and subway routes in and around Manhatten. The AT stop was not shown. I know that it was a seasonal stop, typically summer and weekends. Has it been closed due to budgets?

hwbout
06-05-2005, 09:15
Hi,
We are from NY and hike often, taking either a bus or train out of the city. Here is a link that is really helpful. http://www.nynjtc.org/trails/no-car.html

This summer we will be taking the Amtrak for 60 dollars from NY's Penn Station to Rutland Vermont and beginning the trail there. We will be hiking south about 300 miles back to the Bear Mountain area in NY where we can pick up the train again and get back to the city. We rarely hike more than 10 miles a day, so this hike will take us about a month. This might be good for you, as both NY airports have a shuttle now from the airports into Penn. Obviously, if you are not from NY, you may be a little overwhelmed with our public transportaion system, but despite what people say, New Yorkers are more than happy to point you in the right direction. Good luck with your month long hike. We are really looking forward to ours.

JoeHiker
06-06-2005, 12:03
Does it have to be ALL on the AT? Why not do the Long Trail in Vermont, North to South. Southern section shares the AT

tlbj6142
06-06-2005, 12:18
If I had a month (July), I'd hike somewhere in NE. Probably NOBO from somewhere.

One thing to consider, the terrain in NE can be a real bitch. Most thru-hikers will be in much better trail shape than you'll be in. So, don't expect to "keep up with thru-hikers". Just enjoy them as they pass you by. Meet new folks every day.

There are not a lot of "easy" sections in NE for you to use as a warm-up, so keep your mileage expectations low (probalby less than 15 per day, if you do the sunrise-to-sunset thing) even if you just left Marine bootcamp.

Picking a section, though will be difficult, as many are great. On my brother's thru ('04), he really dis-liked the northern mid-atlantic states (NY, CT). He almost quit while hiking in NY. VT and the Green Mtns saved his thru-hike. That said, I'd start anywhere north of the CT/VT boarder and hike NOBO. Take it slow and don't even think about keeping up with the thru-hikers. As it just might ruin your trip.

However, if you want to hike with a bunch (?) of green thru-hikers, consider SOBO starting at Katahadin. Many SOBO hikers start in July, so you won't be alone and should be able to keep a small trail family (if that's your thing) much easier.

Tramper Al
06-06-2005, 14:52
One thing to consider, the terrain in NE can be a real bitch.
Huh? What does this even mean?

In a mile to mile comparison, it may take people more time and effort to hike in New England, but it is well worth the effort. The vast majority of folks hiking up here aren't in thru-hiker shape, obviously, and they still have a great time.

So, maybe your first day out in the White Mountains you hike 8 miles instead of 16. Who cares? It's not about the miles, it's all about the smiles.

So, in short, I disagree. Hiking the AT in New England is a bitchin' good time!

Footslogger
06-06-2005, 15:46
[QUOTE=Tramper Al]So, maybe your first day out in the White Mountains you hike 8 miles instead of 16. Who cares? It's not about the miles, it's all about the smiles.
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Shoot ...I was in pretty good shape when I got to the Whites in 2003 and 8 - 10 miles was a GOOD DAY !!

'Slogger
AT 2003

tlbj6142
06-06-2005, 15:55
So, in short, I disagree. Hiking the AT in New England is a bitchin' good time!I guess I didn't make my point real clear. The foot path, trailway, etc. is a real bitch. Obviously, the "area" is great, otherwise I wouldn't have suggested it.

My point was you may need to adjust your mileage projections in NE. I know I have on my section hikes. I was almost crying after my first trip, because I couldn't for the life of me figure out why I wasn't doing my "normal" 2-2.5 mph. It was so frustrating. It wasn't until my second day that I realized the trails were a bit more difficult and that I wasn't able to get a good pace going. Once I figure out that I could only do 1.25-2 mph, I was much happier.